A Gaping Void: Owen Daniels & Eric Winston
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Owen Daniels and Eric Winston are a gaping void on the strong side of the Texans line. By that, I mean that they have both excelled on the field and achieved playing time to void the final year of their contracts. Now they're both in their contract years. If the Texans stand pat and let these contributors play out their contracts, there will be a gaping void in the Texans line.
Thankfully, the Texans recently extended general manager Rick Smith who has a track record of making shrewd moves. These moves are going to be some of the most interesting the Texans will make.
Even though Daniels and Winston are in their contract years, they will not be free agents after the season. When the owners opted out of the current CBA, the rules for free agency changed. It now requires 6 years of experience to reach free agency, so Daniels and Winston would be restricted free agents for another 2 years.
So what kind of deals will keep 2 young building blocks of a rising Texans team in place for the next few years? Let's look around the league and see what kind of deals are out there.
Tackle Salaries
2/21/2005: Signed a seven-year, $36 million contract. 2008: $3.5 million, 2009: $3.75 million, 2010: $3.85 million, 2011: $5.4 million, 2012: Free Agent.
Kevin Shaffer
3/11/2006: Signed a seven-year, $36 million contract. The deal includes $12.5 in guarantees. 2008: $2.9 million, 2009: $2.65 million, 2010: $2.9 million, 2011-2012: $3.4 million, 2013: Free Agent.
Eric Winston is probably as solid as any RT out there, and he's only 24 this year so he's got some leverage. He'll also be looking for the big payday he missed in the 2006 draft.
The Texans can hold onto him as a restricted free agent, making just over $1 million for at least one year, maybe two, so I believe a deal will be struck. And the sooner, the better. Contract disputes make for nasty blood.
I'd expect him to sign an extension next year in the neighborhood of a 4 years, worth $35 million with $15 million in guarantees. So his cap numbers would be something close to this: 2009--$6.5 mil; 2010--$8 mil; 2011--$9.75 mil; 2012--$10.75 mil.
This deal leaves him as a free agent (Pro Bowler?) at 29, which would be a great age for another big payday.
Tight End Salaries
Antonio Gates
8/23/2005: Signed a six-year, $24 million contract. The deal included a $6 million signing bonus and contains $10.5 million in total guarantees. 2008: $3 million, 2009: $3.25 million, 2010: $3.625 million, 2011: Free Agent.![]()
Jason Witten
7/22/2006: Signed a six-year, $29 million contract extension through 2012. The deal included a $6 million signing bonus and a $6 million option bonus in the second year. 2008: $1.905 million, 2009: $2.5 million, 2010: $2.641 million, 2011: $3.391 million, 2012: $3.641 million, 2013: Free Agent.
Owen Daniels has been building solid seasons year after year. Right now, he may already be a top 15 TE. In a few years, he may be a Pro Bowler. He's got the tenacity.
If he continues to grow as vital part of the Texans passing attack, I expect the Texans to lock him up long term. They would be looking for about a 5 year deal. How many zeros would it take for Daniels to sign? Something in the neighborhood of $35 million with $10 million guaranteed. That would make his cap numbers: 2009--$3.5 mil, 2010--$5 mil, 2011--$7 mil, 2012--$9 mil, and 2013--$10.5 mil.
Contract Year
That's great that you're looking one, two, or even five years down the road, but what does any of this mean this season? Contract years in the NFL are funny things. Players realize their future is on the line, and they tend to perform at an optimum level. Think back to Albert Haynesworth last year--he knew he was auditioning for his big payday, and he became the force everyone knew he had the talent to be.
Owen Daniels and Eric Winston both know they're in contract years. They're going to take it up a notch because they can smell the $$$ every time they (or in Winston's case, the offense) find(s) the end zone. Expect the strong side of the Texans line to change from gaping void to steel blue stampede this season as Daniels and Winston have a little bit of extra motivation to play for.
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Steel Blue Stampede
I like that. If we ever develop a running game, I think that would be a great nickname for our backfield / offensive line.
That said, I almost hope that Winston and Daniels don’t drastically improve. If they suddenly increase their game, then it means that they approach the game like Albert Haynesworth. I don’t even think that’s a backhanded compliment, I think it’s a forehanded insult. (Is forehanded a word?) Don’t get me wrong, I’d like for both players to continue to improve, but I don’t want them to become Pro-Bowler’s just because they know they’re in a contract year.
On an unrelated note, is that your new sig at the end of the post? It’s kind of catchy. I may end up stealing it.
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by Tailgate Andy on Jun 19, 2008 3:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the heads up
it was late when i published it. i finished it just before i crashed.
i’m really sucking with comparisons. i’ll have to try to avoid obvious rivals of houston teams.
by marroncito on Jun 19, 2008 7:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: OD
You know, I’ve been thinking a lot about Owen Daniel’s role in the offense next season. If the running game picks up, I can see him taking a dip in receiving yards, especially when you factor in the return of a healthy AJ.
I love me some Daniels (although dude needs to invest in a case of stickum), I just don’t see him hauling in 750+ yards again this season.
Now on the flip side of that thought – I do see him catching a few more touchdowns. I can see him ending the year with 640 yards and 6 TDs.
With all that said, I’d like to see him in deep steel blue for years to come.
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by SOLIS on Jun 19, 2008 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not for lack of ability
yeah, i see OD’s numbers decreasing a little bit if everyone stays healthy. i had him pegged at about 640 yds for the season.
with 5 solid targets & RBs to through to, Schaub is going to have a lot of choices. everyone can’t have 1000 yd seasons. otherwise Schaub would be setting NFL passing records with 5000+ yds.
by marroncito on Jun 19, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For sure
It stands to reason. He’s definitely an asset to this team – but he also has to watch the emergence of Joel Dressen. If he proves to be a reliable receiver, you may see him push OD for a few snaps – especially if OD keeps failing to secure the ball.
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by SOLIS on Jun 19, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
joel dressen
i keep hearing about him, but i’ve only seen him sparingly in games.
is he another Kevin Walter story? where Kubiak realizes the mistake and fixes it this year?
do we have 2 solid TEs on the roster?
after the Jeb Putzier experience, i’m a little leary of TEs not named Owen
by marroncito on Jun 19, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 te's...
I think it’s essential to have two good TE’s, so they can co-exist just fine in our Offense. When you think of Bruener as, really, a 3rd Tackle, it makes it that much more important to have Owen and Joel in the mix. I can tell you I’d much rather have Dreesen catching balls then Vonta. That’s always a scary sight.
Will the off-season ever end?
by beefy on Jun 19, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dressen > putzier ?
i’d love to have a 2nd TE. i love 2 TE sets. the only problem is finding a solid No. 2 to compliment OD. If Dressen is that guy, then more power to him.
by marroncito on Jun 19, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
according to Kubes...
Dreesen is in fact > Putzier. Jeb was just a receiving TE, and a liability in the blocking game. This will keep you off the field in the nfl now. Granted, I loved it when we signed him, but apparently Kubes couldn’t ever get him to emulate what bruener could bring in the way of blocking, so now he’s gone. He said Dreesen can do both, that’s all I’m basing my comments on. 2 TE sets, ROCK ON!
Will the off-season ever end?
by beefy on Jun 19, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even better...
Dreessen is also a talented long-snapper, so we could kick Bryan Pittman to the curb and have an extra roster spot if we wanted to.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Jun 19, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
long snapping
a little bit from a piece coming up in a week or two. there are 2 other players on the Texans that long snap. players that you wouldn’t really think of as long snappers.
by marroncito on Jun 19, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup. the other is Tim Bulman, but more on that later.
by marroncito on Jun 19, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In your post...
please address why the hell we give Bryan Pittman a roster spot when we have three other long snappers on the team. Because I fail to see how that makes any sense at all.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Jun 20, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll do some digging
i’ll try to figure it out and then post about it.
by marroncito on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
snapper
I saw him snap it into a moving car on the news one night. This will come in handy if there is ever a 4 door sedan punting for the locals.
by txnpwrlifter on Jun 20, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daniels Is One of the Best
Owen has major skills and could definitely see him hauling 750+. I love his coach too. Brian Pariani at TE trained future hall of famer Shannon Sharpe. It will be interesting to see how Daniels pans out.
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by GarretBarnes on Jun 27, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The good news and the bad news about Winston's contract.
The good news is that he is from Texas, and that even though he lived in Midland, rooted for the 49ers growing up, and not the Cowboys.
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/category/texans/2006/08/31/my-lunch-with-eric-winston/
The bad news is that his agent is Drew Rosenhaus, so this means that both Winston and Rosenhaus will want the Texans to pay for missing out on the first paycheck.
Also, that he chose to go to Miami instead of stay in Texas means that though he loves his state, he isn’t going to give much of a home state discount to stay here.
As for OD’s stickem issues, I think playing through his broken nose issue probably didn’t help much. As for the passing yards, I think a lot of that depends on:
1. The running game.
2. If they can get lots of points early in games and run.
3. Whether the defense can get off the freaking field on third downs. (Though alternatively, the defense allowing the other team to score quickly on big plays pushes the Texans offense to throw more often to catch up).
Overall for OD, I see him as a tight end who can thrive in Kubiak’s system, but I am not sure that if I were another team I would like to pay him big bucks to come play for my team. It is not as though he is one of those athletic tight ends you think would shine in any system. (Love OD, but I’m just sayin).
by StephS on Jun 19, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2 things...
There are two big things going for us now, in signing guys:
1. We’re an “up and coming” team, getting better
2. Smith is willing, I believe, to pay you if you’ve proven yourself to Kubes and he.
Yeah, it hurt a little, losing Peek and Orr and Von, but those were role players and not big names like Eric and Owen. I have faith that justice will be served.
Will the off-season ever end?
by beefy on Jun 20, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think they’ll be resigned until late in the offseason next year. i imagine that Rick Smith will sit back and watch to see how other teams are handling the CBA weirdness.
he go Andre Johnson extended so i’ve got no worries that deals will be eventually worked out for winston and daniels. it’ll be an interesting ride though.
by marroncito on Jun 20, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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