Is The Ceiling Starting To Crack?
by marroncito
on Jul 15, 2008 10:33 PM CDT
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The news of the day for the AFC South, of course, is Peyton Manning's knee surgery. I think this has deeper implications for the Texans than just another team's star player going down. I think this could be a sign that the ceiling in the AFC south may finally be cracking. This regression to the mean wouldn't be nearly as interesting if it wasn't paired with another fact that that is just dawning on the rest of the NFL. The Texans are on the rise.
The Titans are sill in disarray and winning against them is a 50/50 proposition. The Jags' vaunted defense is starting to weaken. The Stroud/Henderson tag team is no more, and the Jags are asking a lot of their young defensive ends. Since the Texans always play the Jags hard, I'd put the odds at about 60/40 against us.
The Colts are still the team to beat, but they're looking more and more human. Their biggest playmakers--Freeney, Harrison, Clark and now Manning--all have some wear and tear. Manning is particularly interesting. He's been the engine that makes the Colts go. And he's got a nasty problem. Knee problems are what did in Dominic Davis, Ahman Green (pending?) and Marvin Harrison.
Peyton Manning's knee problem is a big issue for several reasons. Even though Manning is a warrior on the field, he's going to be shielding his knee from contact. This is going to make that ball come out a split second faster, which means more mistakes. Manning's injury is on his plant foot. Carson Palmer and Donovan McNabb both showed that it takes a little while to get used to stepping up in the pocket and leaving your plant foot exposed. Lastly, Manning has shown in past games against the Chargers and the Steelers that he gets rattled when he gets hit repeatedly.
The Texans are fielding one of the youngest starting defenses in the NFL. The offense has shown how explosive it can be in flashes last season. The natural upswing the Texans are on as they continue to add talent could be augmented by a fracturing at the top. In a division where one win means the difference between going home and the playoffs, today may have just been the day the Texans got that win.
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Colts/Jags
I’m not going to do my predictions until after TC, but as of now I’m picking the Jags to win the AFC South…. though that has nothing to do with this injury. Since Peyton has proved to be so durable over the years, I don’t see why he won’t easily get past this and not miss a beat. I really think if the Jags overtake Indy, it will be more about how much better the Jags are than how much the Colts have dropped.
by HoustonDiehards on Jul 16, 2008 1:51 AM CDT 0 recs
Jags again?
They win the division every offseason.
They won’t win it again.
by HelloKitty on
Jul 16, 2008 10:19 PM CDT
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down swing
i just see this injury as confirmation that the Colts are on a down swing now. Peyton’s knee is only going to get worse over time. manning’s unique talents are what holds the Colts together. without him they’re a slightly above average team.
by marroncito on Jul 16, 2008 7:22 AM CDT 0 recs
He has had a knee problem for some time. You think this is new? It’s not.
He just had something done because it was infected. He has had a huge bulging knee for some time.
Luckily we don’t need him to run for TDs.
by HelloKitty on
Jul 16, 2008 10:20 PM CDT
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AND IT’S NOT HIS PLANT LEG
Aren’t the Texans QBs hurt or were hurt? Why not talk about that instead.
by HelloKitty on
Jul 16, 2008 11:21 PM CDT
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Calmado chica
Calm down girl… If we mention the decline of your QB’s health, its really only wishful thinking. Dude has been one of the best signal callers in the history of the game, but as far as I’m concerned, the sooner he gets his audible calling ass off the field, the better.
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by SOLIS on
Jul 17, 2008 1:17 AM CDT
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Manning is right handed
So, in my best mocking tone, YES IT IS HIS PLANT LEG.
His right leg provides the push, but the left leg STAYS PLANTED as he delivers the ball. Unless he’s going to start throwing Tebow-like jump passes.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 17, 2008 9:42 AM CDT
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I think the Colts are, perhaps, maintaining their previous level of play, which means that, in relation to the rest of the division (besides the Titans), they’re backsliding. I see Jacksonville improving and obviously the Texans as well. The Titans will need a lot of luck to overcome their relative lack of offense, but that defense will remain among the league’s best, particularly if Haynesworth stays healthy.
The Texans will be better, but they’re still in a gnarly division. With that in mind, I see it this way:
Jags
Colts
Texans
BE-SF
by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 16, 2008 8:49 AM CDT 0 recs
Quick on the trigger there...
You may want to consult a doctor about your rampant case of premature elucidation.
But 1st, you’ll probably want to consult a dictionary regarding the words elucidation and pun.
by Shake on
Jul 16, 2008 2:29 PM CDT
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I already understand both of those terms
It was an accident on my part, Shake. I tried to delete the above post but couldn’t find an option which allowed me to.
As for your assumption of me and those terms, Id appreciate if you do not undermine my intelligence. ;)
by metal_militia on
Jul 16, 2008 4:46 PM CDT
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well then
I foresee great amounts of criticism in your future. lol
by metal_militia on
Jul 16, 2008 11:58 PM CDT
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Also
Props for being a good sport re: my extremely dry sarcasm. Just for that, I promise to never link to the Utube nightvision video of Peyton & Kenny.
by Shake on
Jul 17, 2008 12:02 AM CDT
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if you had heard correctly on that video
you would know that Manning had the same thing happen to his other knee back in college. He hasn’t slowed down since so I wouldnt compare Manning’s knee injury to Dominic Davis or Ahman Green.
by metal_militia on Jul 16, 2008 2:06 PM CDT 0 recs
a knee is a knee is a knee
joints are really nasty things to injure no matter where the injury is. the texans are becoming a better team overall with a better defense. we will be getting to Peyton more this year. and when we do he’ll have more to think about than just getting hit.
knees deteriorate. i’m taking this particular procedure as a sign that Manning is starting to deteriorate. yea, it won’t affect his game play all the much over the course of the season and yes he still is the cerebral qb he ever was, but this may be the inch the texans needed to win one more game in their division.
the colts are the one team in the division that the texans have played close but never had a really decisive win against. with manning potentially being off of his game and the texans improving, the gap is closing.
i see this as an opportunity for the texans to solidify their bid for a wild card spot. they’re not yet in position to take the division.
as far as the injury he had in college, i was aware of it. however, that was when he was 21. now he’s 32 and will have mario williams chasing him around in the backfield.
by marroncito on
Jul 16, 2008 3:49 PM CDT
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I knew you were going to mention manning's age
which leads me to your former RB Davis. wasn’t it that he had a knee injury at an early age? There are different kind’s of injuries that could occur the knee. Manning’s is minor compared to what Davis had. The one knee injury that I have heard about keeping players out of commission are staff infections. Manning’s surgery is no where near that caliber
by metal_militia on
Jul 16, 2008 4:30 PM CDT
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severity
i agree that manning’s current injury is no where near as severe as ahman green or dominic davis’. his injury is not career threatening.
what it is though is a chink in his armor. the point of my artice is two fold. the colts are sinking back towards the rest of the division and the texans are getting better. the gap between the colts at the top of the division and and the texans is closing. a rattled manning just further shrinks the gap.
despite it’s non-serious nature, do you not think that manning will be wary when tommie harris, jared allen, john henderson and mario williams are coming after him. manning has shown he can be rattled when he’s healthy (chargers game & steelers game). i believe that he will be more easily rattled if he’s favoring his plant foot, a la Carson Palmer (again not as severe. just an example of a QB favoring their injured plant foot.)
by marroncito on
Jul 16, 2008 4:46 PM CDT
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I'll let this season be the judge of that
at least the sinking of the Colts to the rest of the division. For one, the Colts are a fairly young team, in fact I believe they are the second youngest team in the league. The Younger the Colts get, the longer they will last.
As for Manning’s injury, as I’ve stated earlier, it’s not that severe. I really feel this is not a sign that Manning only has 3 years left or some other small, absurd, amount of time. Peyton will play for another 6-7 years and quite honestly, I still think he will be as productive as ever.
by metal_militia on
Jul 16, 2008 6:14 PM CDT
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The "young team" thing...
doesn’t fly when the most important parts of the team (Manning, Harrison, Wayne, Freeney) are all aging.
Peyton has already played for TEN years; you really think he’s going to play productively for 16 or 17 seasons?
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 16, 2008 6:44 PM CDT
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Youth does fly
A player like recently drafted Anthony Gonzalez is no Marvin Harrison, but he can be a productive pro bowl player.
Yes I do feel Manning can be productive in his 17th or 16th season. Brett Favre did it, John Elway did it. Manning is just that kind of player.
by metal_militia on
Jul 16, 2008 8:02 PM CDT
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Gonzalez
Do you really think the success or failure of the team hinges on Anthony Gonzalez? Because, if so, this conversation is going nowhere. He’s the slot receiver and caught 37 balls last year, now you are penciling him into the Pro Bowl?
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 16, 2008 8:27 PM CDT
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Its only speculation
I used the words CAN BE based on potential. You’ve taken what I said completely out of context. I am simply using Gonzalez as an example of what could be based on the Colt’s recent draft history.
Without Manning this team doesn’t run, but your mentioning the supporting cast with players like Harrison. That could be patched. I use the word patched because Harrison’s production cannot be matched but it the offense can still be productive. Simply put this the line between success and failure of this team, IMHO, lies simply in the hands of Peyton Manning and no other player. The only time this team can fail with a healthy Manning is when a plethora of the Colts most productive players (i.e. Bob Sanders) goes down
by metal_militia on
Jul 16, 2008 9:58 PM CDT
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Context:
“A player like recently drafted Anthony Gonzalez is no Marvin Harrison, but he can be a productive pro bowl player.”
So Anthony Gonzalez or some other to-be-named player can be a pro bowler? So they are no different from every other player in the NFL then. Insightful.
Obviously, it all runs through Manning. What HelloKitty (and you to a lesser extent) refuse to accept is that 30-year-old QBs who start having pieces removed from their knees generally don’t become better than they were pre-surgery. Additionally, when you have a QB who has almost never missed a game, even if he gets rid of the ball faster than anyone, he has taken a beating over the course of 10 years and, like the article originally said, this type of knee surgery is likely just the first chick in Peyton’s invincible armor.
But Colts fans don’t want to hear that because Peyton is a god and he is going to throw for 5000 yards for the next 18 years. He can’t get hurt. It’s not possible. Won’t happen. He’s Jesus, only taller and with a laser rocket arm.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 17, 2008 9:47 AM CDT
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CAN BE
Jeez what dont you get about those 2 words? First round Pics are expected to do great thing’s right? Im not guaranteeing Gonzalez great success im only saying that if a player like Harrison retires or goes down, his abilities might at least keep the Colts afloat.
Yes I do refuse to believe that this is anything serious. This is Manning’s FIRST INJURY in quite some time. He has never missed a snap except for one play. Until otherwise noted, I have no reason to believe this will result in a large chain of injuries that will cut Mannings carrer to only 2 more seasons or some other exaggeratedly small amount of time.
But you Texan fans dont want to hear that Peyton Manning will be ok. You refuse to believe that since now is the time to take over and win the South now that Manning is gone.
by metal_militia on
Jul 17, 2008 11:10 AM CDT
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Re: Can be
That’s why I said that, if you are just going with X “CAN BE” a Pro Bowler, you are really saying nothing at all. Yes, he can be. As can any other player that suits up in the NFL. Which, ultimately, means your point about Anthony Gonzalez is meaningless. If you want to continue to parse semantics, I’m free all day.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 17, 2008 11:12 AM CDT
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I used the whole Gonzalez thing
to reference what you said about, “youth doesnt fly, all the important players on the Colts are aging”.From the sound of that quote it sounds like players once a player like Marvin leaves the Colts are doomed. Thats just not the case. Once Manning is gone you can rejoice, but if Harrison or someone else were to go down the Colts wont be doomed. The only thing that can doom the Colts with a healthy Manning, as ive stated earlier, is if a plethora of core players were to go down consecutively
Gonzalez is just an example of a player who can keep the Colts well oiled machine running. by taking the place of someone like Marvin. Maybe not the same production, but efficient non the less.
by metal_militia on
Jul 17, 2008 1:26 PM CDT
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Did they all age 30 years this offseason?
Wayne is 29. Clark 29. Freeney just turned 28. Nobody on our defense is even 30 years old.
We have 3 players on our offense over 30. Saturday might not even be here eventually and we have replacements.
Peyton has shown no signs of decline and has great protection.
Marvin is the only one you can make a case for who is aging.
by HelloKitty on
Jul 16, 2008 10:16 PM CDT
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No
I can also make the case that the 31 year old QB who just had need surgery is aging. See, look there, I just made it.
Freeney might be 28, but he’s starting the preseason on the PUP list along with Sanders, so why should anyone buy that they are 100%?
Point taken on Wayne, I thought he was 30.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 17, 2008 9:39 AM CDT
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4-3 defenses don’t even rattle Manning.
Get with the program. It’s the 3-4 with beasts at OLB who disguise their blitzes better than anyone.
sigh
What makes Manning the most dangerous though is his mind and preparation. He kills you with what he knows.
by HelloKitty on
Jul 16, 2008 10:18 PM CDT
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For Gods sake people. What wusses you are.
Manning had a simple procedure done that he has had done before. He has had this knee problem for quite some time and beaten your Texans with it.
He will probably feel a lot better with it out of his knee. As for his age lol. He is one year older than Brady.
He will be 100% week 1 and ready to go and you can quote me on that.
Wishul thinking by my divison rivals as usual in the offseason.
Manning has also played hurt before btw. And this is not the same case as Marvin whose knee ruptured and there was structural damage before he hurt his other knee.
Gosh. I guess this hurts his mobility. sarcasm
You guys make it sound like he broke his leg or tore is ACL.
by HelloKitty on Jul 16, 2008 10:15 PM CDT 0 recs
You again
I get that you’re passionate about Peyton – but seriously, Aaron was just making an observation – which is valid. Without that bursa sac, there won’t be as much cushion in the joint. The overall health of his knee won’t improve over time. It ain’t like he’s fixin to grown another one. Let that knee get hit a couple of times… then we’ll see how the scar tissue responds.
Nevertheless, his surgery is causing him to miss significant TC time. Now, being that yall’s offense is predicated on timing routes, that isn’t a good thing. End of the world, no. But you all like to run a lot of two tightend sets, and IIRC you have two newcomers competing for that second slot. It’s that second tightend opposite of Dallas Clark who is going to be at a loss when the season begins.
Add in the decline/absence of Marvin and the offense won’t have the same impact that it has had in years’ past. There’s no way you can plug in Gonzalez and expect the same results. On defense, your two best players are going to be on the PUP list. That’s two catalysts (Freeney and Sanders) who drive your defense who may or may not return to form. Let’s not forget your lame duck coach. Will he come back next year? He doesn’t know… and neither do his players. Uncertainty can screw with team chemistry. I’m just saying, it doesn’t sound like a recipe for success.
Look, the Colts are looking more and more like they will be ripe for the picking – which was the point of Aaron’s article. You coming here and calling people "wusses" or whatever is well… fucking childish. Next time keep it to yourself. Come here, debate topics and make your points – but don’t start mocking people because you don’t agree.
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by SOLIS on
Jul 17, 2008 2:33 AM CDT
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Wow even Dungy and Manning have both said they are not sure he will retire after this year. Dungy has gone thru this process every single season. He recently said he feels they need to win a few more SBs. Does that sound like someone who is going to retire? Until he actually does retire I will believe it when I see it. And btw he almost retired the last few seasons and how did that hurt us? That argument does not hold water IMO since it’s happened before with us. The media sucks and finally made a big deal out of this, even Dungy said he was embarrassed by it this year. The team also said they were relieved to get him back and felt a lot better.
As for Freeney did you read the latest on him? He is going great. Spin moves and everything, no setbacks. (of course nobody posts anything positive about my team on rival blogs) Sanders was on the PUP last year till about the Saints game week 1. Then went out and won DPOY. Same thing done, offseason cleanup.
Colts will be conservative with these guys. Why risk them getting hurt or rush them back when we have experienced harsh injuries in TC before (like Booger.)
As for Manning you have to be foolish to think he won’t be ready to start the season or the team would mess around with thier most important player. We are not starting any new systems on offense or really any new starts (yes there are new backups) and Manning will likely be back in time to work with them before the season starts. And if you think he will be rusty then fine, it’s the Bears.
I HAVE argued my points but all I hear is wishful thinking. And the guy who wrote this made mistakes already like saying it was Manning’s plant leg when it’s not.
by HelloKitty on
Jul 17, 2008 3:38 AM CDT
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Again...
it was his plant leg. Drop that already. Or do you not understand what a plant leg is?
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 17, 2008 9:56 AM CDT
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you don’t
AH, Texas and sports, better than fried coke.
by Tomriffic on
Jul 18, 2008 10:15 PM CDT
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I'm not sure why this is so hard for you.
The plant leg is the front leg. It stays planted as the QB throws. The back foot routinely comes off the ground, especially on deep throws. Throwing off the back foot is incorrect form and results in inaccurate, underthrown balls.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 19, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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Crap
Here’s the link from above: http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/falcons/entries/2008/05/10/ryan_debuts_bro.html
Here’s the quote: He did not wear any type of support brace on his knee unlike Ryan, who wore a brace on his left knee. Ryan said he wears the brace as a precaution. At Boston College, the coaches required the quarterbacks to wear a brace on their plant leg so Ryan said wearing the brace was out of habit.
You are wrong. Again.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 19, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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And another
From here: http://auburnbeat.blogspot.com/2007/09/auburn-book-on-brandon-coxs-two-plus.html
This: Cox played on after banging his right knee on the turf at Ole Miss, though the bursa sac injury affected the left-hander’s plant leg
So, in sum, you are still wrong. So f*cking drop it already because you are making yourself look retarded.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 19, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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Ripe for picking?
I think not. For one you mention Dungy being indecisive. The Colts already a plan in place weather or not he does decide to retire or not. Two you mention Gonzalez cannot replace Marvin Harrison. Granted that im sure Gonzalez will not put up HOF numbers, but last time I checked people said the same thing about Edge when he left and we didnt miss a beat. You also dont know a thing about bursa sac’s. The human body does regenerate another one once removed. Just read the last part of this link: http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080715/SPORTS03/80715055. Not only that but they also state that there are no lingering effects to mobility and movement as well as no other injuries that can occur from it.
by metal_militia on
Jul 17, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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Ripened on the vine
I think so.
Re: For one – Look, the only thing that is certain with Dungy’s job is the, “let’s wait and see” attitude. Look, I’m not trying to tear the man down. Honestly, he’s done an admirable job throughout his career. He’s a damn fine coach and you are lucky to have him. I just think that he’s one subpar season away from hanging them up. If things start going south, his lame duck status becomes official.
Re: Two – Gonzalez maybe able to do a good job at the WR3, but you can’t tell me that you won’t miss a beat without Marvin. You may be able to pull it off for a game or two, but not a season. It was hard to scheme defensively against Harrison/Wayne – it’s going to be easier to handle Wayne/Gonzalez.
Re: You don’t know a thing about bursa sac’s (sic) – Yes I do, infact it took a good part of 2006 for me to recover from bursitis of the right shoulder. Now, to your argument that bursa sacs grow back – it all depends on which one. Not all bursa sacs, once removed grow back. Now if Peyton did get the prepatellar sac removed, then yes, it regrow itself over time to provide cushion between the knee and the skin. How much time depends. Until then he will be vunerable. Everything I read said that a bursectomy it’s a last ditch effort in treating chronic bursitis.
And to help you sleep better at night, here are the complications and risks associated with the surgery:
Complications/Risks
- Permanent limitation of the knee’s normal mobility
- Prolonged healing time if activity or weight-bearing is resumed too soon
- Proneness to repeated flare-ups
- Arthritic knee following repeated episodes of bursitis
- Tender or contracted scars or areas of increased sensitivity in pressure-bearing areas
I’m sure Peyton will look good in practice… but like I said, let that knee get knocked around a little bit and then we’ll see how it responds.
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by SOLIS on
Jul 17, 2008 5:15 PM CDT
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and if you watch the video
your head blogger posted, a doctor (yes an expert on the human body) says their will be no limitations to mobility or movement of the knee and should recover fully I would like to reiterate that Manning had the same injury to his other knee in college, I sure didnt see any mobility or knee problems since.
by metal_militia on
Jul 17, 2008 7:01 PM CDT
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Looks totally healthy to me.
From the Pro Bowl this past year:
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 17, 2008 8:06 PM CDT
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Although it flys in the face of all that is certain -
I think his knee is bigger than his forehead..! My God man.
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by SOLIS on
Jul 17, 2008 9:18 PM CDT
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BTW
Manning’s plant leg is fine, which is the more important leg.
And why bring up the Steelers or Chargers? They have completely different defenses when they have beaten the Colts that nobody in our division has.
by HelloKitty on Jul 16, 2008 10:21 PM CDT 0 recs
That word, "plant leg," you keep using it.
I do not think it means what you think it means.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 17, 2008 9:56 AM CDT
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That is what is called a comedic twist.
Mark wins.
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by SOLIS on
Jul 17, 2008 3:34 PM CDT
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I’m sure you think like a lawyer. It’s the plant leg, a leg the quarterback throws off of.
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by Tomriffic on
Jul 18, 2008 10:17 PM CDT
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Exactly...
and he throws off of his FRONT leg, which would be his left, which is what he just had surgery on. So thank you for confirming that I am right.
For further proof, throwing “off his back foot” is universally considered a bad thing. Because you haven’t PLANTED the front leg and thus won’t get maximum velocity.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 19, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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Honestly...
did you just suggest that “throw[ing] off of” a QB’s back foot is a good thing?
Christ.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 19, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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Thing is though
He wont be throwing off his back foot. Manning will be healthy once again and his leg will have full mobility and movement since the surgery nor the injury caused structural damage. In fact, according to Tony Dungy, Manning should be fully recovered in 3 weeks with a new bursa sac formed.
by metal_militia on
Jul 19, 2008 11:48 PM CDT
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The Coach?
Yeah, and Charles Spencer was supposed to have recovered from his injury within a year.
I’m not making the argument that Manning’s knee injury is in any way, shape or form like Spencers. It’s not. I get it.
But, you’re gonna go by what the coach says? What’s he supposed to say? That Manning’s not going to be fully healthy until the first week of the regular season, or that he’s going to be healthy in three weeks?
by Tailgate Andy on
Jul 20, 2008 12:23 AM CDT
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Yes I do believe the coach
He obtained his information THROUGH DOCTORS the people who are experts of these kind of injuries.
by metal_militia on
Jul 20, 2008 11:32 AM CDT
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Never said he would be.
I didn’t say he would be throwing off his back foot; I said that Tom was a fool for saying that (a) the plant leg was the back leg because (b) it was the foot the QB threw off of. Meaning that, in one post, Tom was able to be incorrect AND demonstrate a lack of knowledge of football mechanics.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Jul 20, 2008 6:57 PM CDT
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Hate To Do This
But I’ve got to agree with the Colts fans (though I think the premise of marroncito’s argument is sound, in that the gap is certainly closing between the Texans and the rest of the division). It’s Peyton Manning. Tweaked knee or not, he wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence. There’s not a better QB in the game. And while I think the Jags will be nasty this year and should be penciled in for the playoffs, I still like the Colts to take the division (barring a horrific spate of injuries).
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by Tim on Jul 16, 2008 10:22 PM CDT 0 recs
No argument with you their
Like BigBlueShoe has stated here and Stampede Blue, the Texans are taking the right approach to becoming one of the Most premiere franchises in the league. Im glad you understand that Manning is not ont eh decline of his career.
by metal_militia on
Jul 16, 2008 10:25 PM CDT
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Thank you.
I have nothing against the Texans I just think some of the things I have read about my Colts recently is absurd.
If you think they will fall that much let’s wait and see what happens during the season before people look stupid for bad offseason predictions again.
I think the Colts will be very good this year again. I think the injured players will come back fine after a lot of rest and even if we are rusty game 1 it’s the Bears…...
I think the Texans look pretty good too.
by HelloKitty on
Jul 16, 2008 10:26 PM CDT
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One Thing We Can All Agree On
The AFC South is the toughest division in the NFL. There’s a reason 75% of the division went to the postseason last year. What I do want to know from the non-Texans fans, though…aw, hell, I’ll make it a separate post. Check the main page in a few minutes.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on
Jul 16, 2008 10:30 PM CDT
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Sure thing
Id be happy to contribute my input
by metal_militia on
Jul 16, 2008 10:32 PM CDT
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That’s spoken like a true fan, but our problem is with Dallas Cowboy fans and their stupid 5 super bowl wins and their loud obnoxious mouths many of which live in the city of Houston whose mouths should be wired to alternators just for the juice. That and the fact that the Colts slap the Texans around like a kitten chasing the plastic egg silly putty container 2 times per year keeps the Texans Colts rivalry from really happening.
But just right now, I wouldn’t trade the Texans straight up for the Colts because of the potential the Texans have on both sides of the football, not to mention special teams, and the depth they’re building and that they’re now at the point where they’re adding role players similar to what basketball teams do except they’re a football team.
AH, Texas and sports, better than fried coke.
by Tomriffic on
Jul 18, 2008 7:15 AM CDT
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