Duane Brown: First-Round Money, But Not First-Rate Conditioning
"(Brown) just got gassed, you know," Kubiak said. "Taking a lot of reps, which he's going to do, and he's a little bit overweight right now. So we've got to push him, and he's got to catch up with the rest of his teammates. In this business, you've got to be able to go all day and he's figuring that out, and we've got to catch him up with everybody else."
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I thought we ordered a frozen tundra.
One glance at Duane Brown’s and Travis Johnson’s photo’s on the Chronicle made me want to hit the ab bench, before it gets too far out of hand, and go on an all fish and fresh vegetable diet.
Anyway
Sure 105 F and 100% humidity in the middle of the afternoon can get to even native Texans acclimated to the unique brand of hell that is a Houston summer day. But what I wonder is why even have the Texans train in Houston, the original idea of which was to acclimate the players so there would be a home field advantage, when Denver always has it’s climatic home field advantage and Green Bay has it’s frozen tundra, but it’s so hot in September the roof has to be closed. The refs get to decide if the roof is open or closed. Do the refs order extra oxygen for mile high stadium or Lambue field thawed?
No
But Houston gets extra officiated, just like Mike Renfro’s non catch catch.
So much for Houston babes showing up in bikinis the way they do in San Diego.
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by Tomriffic on Jul 26, 2008 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Refs?
The refs don’t decide on the roof, the organization does.
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Jul 26, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Texans organization decides whether the roof will be open or closed based on fan “comfort”. The NFL ruled that the game referees have the right to order the roof closed, to set some precedent for every team building an retractable roof stadium, or a copy of Reliant Stadium. Look it up.
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by Tomriffic on Jul 26, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Fan Comfort
After the abominable performance against the Steelers a few years ago, I believe the roof policy is that it’s open ONLY when the game time temperatures will not drop below 50 degrees and will not exceed 80 degrees.
In other words, it’s damn near always closed.
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by Tim on Jul 26, 2008 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: Look it up
The home team has the decision to leave the roof open or closed, and I believe that decision must be made 90 minutes prior to kickoff. Each home team sets the rules governing how their decision will be made regarding the roof being open or closed. Here is the Houston Texans’ official policy.
The NFL has a rule in place that in the case that the roof is open, and extreme weather conditions arise during the game, the referee may order the roof closed.
Regardless of how it happens, once the roof is closed it cannot be reopened during a game.
by Shake on Jul 27, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 million bucks doesn't get what it used to
Apparently that was not enough money to get D Brown to work hard from OTA’s and training camp to stay in shape. I am not too concerned at this point, but am dissapointed at both him and the other fat boy TJ. Let’s hope he quickly sheds the excess lbs so that he can be an asset this year. No room in te NFL for out of shape overpaid players.
by oiler-texan diehard on Jul 27, 2008 9:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna cut him some slack
1) He’s used to Appalachian weather, not Houston.
2) He’s probably never been worked this hard before in any practice.
3) He’s learning a new scheme that requires more quickness than anything he’s done.
I’ll give him a few days to get in the swing of things; then, if he still can’t finish a workout, I might worry.
by BigTexBD on Jul 27, 2008 12:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure there are some born and raised native Houstonians that aren’t used to Houston weather right about now. It’s dangerously hot. Most people go from an air conditioned house to a garaged car to an air conditioned car to either an air conditioned job or air conditioned store or air conditioned super mall.
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by Tomriffic on Jul 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But those aren’t exactly folks who grow up in the Houston area playing sports outdoors, and go on to be professional athletes. So while a valid point, it is completely meaningless in this particular debate. Well, at least until the franchise starts drafting players from the staff at Old Navy.
by Shake on Jul 27, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Old Navy
Why do you have to bring David Carr into every conversation?
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Jul 28, 2008 6:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Carr
Old Navy, huh? I always pegged him for an Abercrombie and Finch kind of gal.
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by SOLIS on Jul 28, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Duane Brown grow up in the Houston area playing sports outdoors to go on to become a professional athlete?
No.
If someone dropped you into Alaska in January would you have trouble adapting.
Yes if you survived it.
Is this a debate?
No.
It’s a blog.
Are there many bloggers here who post meaningless posts?
Yes, most do.
Because probably someday the hosting website gets sold and the new owners get to do what ever they want, and if new space isn’t found soon enough the blog dies the HD’s get erased and all out posts disappear.
We post here because it is our pleasure, at the risk of being masochistic.
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by Tomriffic on Jul 29, 2008 6:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm
Did you really just refer to yourself in the plural with that last sentence?
And your 1st few sentences are only helping to make the case BTBD presented. If Duane had grown up playing sports in Houston, then he would not need to adjust to the climate.
by Shake on Jul 29, 2008 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
trouble following
Are you supporting what I said? Or are you supporting what I said and then saying it was meaningless? Or are you saying this whole thread is meaningless?
I’m not trying to criticize, just trying to understand.
And, to clarify my first post: I will cut him slack for the first couple of days for the reasons above, but if he still has trouble after that it’s time to worry.
by BigTexBD on Jul 29, 2008 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's easy to agree with obvious fact.
Oh, you don’t have to criticize me I do plenty enough of that for everyone. Yes I support what Tim said, even though after some thought I can see how he might show up over weight, as a professional football player he should show up to camp in shape. Personally I think every player on the team should be in Eddie George shape, and
I also support what BigTexBD said and I have to say it that way as no matter what stupid java script button I hit the responses don’t always line up right which is leading to confusion. Yes, it’s beyond miserably hot these days. It’s so hot the locusts are hanging despairingly to the shady side of the leaves.
Now Shake claimed my point was meaningless, to which I now must respond that’s that’s not true, in the sense he claimed. For example, even Bedouin from the sub Sahara
might have trouble acclimating to our heat because it is exactly so humid. If you now much about the weather, you know that we had a bit of a dry cool spell (cool being that the high is only 95F and the humidity makes it feel like say 88 which is quite pleasant) earlier this month that’s extremely rare because the southern jet stream steers summer cool fronts to the east, but more of them make it far enough south to cool Virginia in the summer. As a matter of fact the ability to withstand 105F 100% humidity, and not pass out is as much about common sense, genetic disposition, as well as physical condition. When I was Duane Brown’s age I worked 10, 12, and occasionally 16 hour days in 100 degree weather, covered in leather 1 foot in front of a 1200F glowing weld. So I can assure you that acclimation is part of it and if you’re physically and mentally strong enough it only takes a month. So actually there may be employees of old navy that work the early shift. but like to exercise or work out and spend time out of doors during the hottest part of the day because they work the morning shift. There’s 1 out there somewhere, which though apparently singled out as my point as being meaningless, I was trying to save words.
Now if your post was meaningless, I probably wouldn’t agree with you much at all. But in the sense life the universe and everything least of all storage is temporary then not only are the bloggers who post meaningless posts posts meaningless but all our posts are meaningless except to ourselves and the usefulness we see in it and the pleasure it gives or at this point the stress it has created. But for example :
re: slut
Rue21, bitchez!
Will the off-season ever end?
by beefy on Jul 28, 2008 11:48 AM CDT
is as meaningless as it gets, yet his post wasn’t singled out as a meaningless waste of bandwidth and disk space. My guess is it gave beefy some perverse temporary pleasure, which was the cause of his post. So to be excruciatingly exact, NO, I wasn’t saying your post was meaningless, I saying so what if my post was meaningless, there are a lot of meaningless posts all over the internet. If you removed all the meaningless posts from the internet probably no one would have to by another hard drive for 10 years.
My post is meaningless. Your posts is meaningless. Shake’s post’s are meaningless, etc.
Happy now?
And I’m not gonna bother triple checking this cause once I click post there no telling what it’ll look like when it gets here.
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by Tomriffic on Jul 30, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey tom...
blow me.
how’s that for disk space?
Will the off-season ever end?
by beefy on Jul 31, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so heart broken
Some times dicks fuck assholes. Fuck you asshole!
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by Tomriffic on Jul 31, 2008 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy, Fellas...
Keep that hate to yourselves. Remember…BRB is clean as the driven snow.
Truth be told, Tom’s message is correct: Nothing we say here has any real impact on whether the world keeps on spinnin’. We’re not splitting the atom. Enjoy the discourse for what it is, and refrain from the personal attacks. Thanks.
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by Tim on Aug 1, 2008 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What attack?
I answered what I assumed was an honest question, with an honest answer, and then was forced to defend myself from a personal attack. So now your saying I can’t defend myself I have to just stand there and take it? Basically, all the while Solis is insisting I need medication you’re asking me to be insane. Why don’t you just ask be to be road kill while Solis bitches that the highway is littered, same difference.
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by Tomriffic on Aug 2, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Attack
I’m not saying anything of the sort. Please e-mail me at your convenience, and I’ll be happy to address your concerns.
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by Tim on Aug 2, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Water the slab
My concerns are mostly oil the garden water the driveway and sweep the oil. Thanks to wanks like beef blow, this place is a major league waste of time, especially when he tag teams with or is the other pseudonym for BigTexBigDufus hell that’s the internet. I can’t know only you and the chosen ones Solis and Shake know. I don’t have to share my 42 years of watching football with anyone, though I was pretty much asleep by half time in 81, 82, 83, and 84, because those where the glorious Eddie Biles years. If I can’t say things the way I want, or use the words I think are appropriate when I think they are necessary, then I’m not really a part of this and there’s no reason for me to be even here. I’ve been dealing with assholes since the day I was born and I’m sick of dealing with them, and they get what they deserve.
Self defense is not an act of hatred, it’s the most rudimentary biological drive of all creatures great and small. Hatred is when you pro actively go after someone just because they are different from you or believe something you aren’t capable of accepting.
I’m just saying when someone like beefy comes at me with something like that, I’m not gonna just take it, especially when it looks like some childish assault on my self esteem.
All I did was answer a question. What’s so wrong with that?
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by Tomriffic on Aug 4, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honest questions
Don’t you think there’s a reason that YOU seem to draw the most negative comments from anyone and everyone? Do you really think that is some conspiracy against you and your “42 years of watching football?” Or could it be that maybe, just maybe, your posts are incredibly irritating?
Note: None of this is a personal attack. I’m really trying to figure out how you see this situation.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 5, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it is hot, but most people are not professional athletes
I am a 50+ y.o. white collar schmuck who gets home from a long day at work, and most days puts on shorts and running shoes and goes for a 3-4 mile run. It has been hot these past few weeks, and the heat definitely saps my energy. I am not a professional football player. I do not get paid millions of dollars. I wrestled and played soccer in HS; played soccer in college. I know what it is to be in good shape. If Duane Brown gets so winded that he cannot continue, when others around him are, then he is not in good shape and needs to do something about it now. I mean diet and cardio. Conditioning can make a huge difference in the 4th quarter of a tough game. The NFL is business; it’s not about babying kids to make small steps to improve. It’s all about winning. Winners take pride in their conditioning. He needs to shape up now.
by oiler-texan diehard on Jul 28, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent point
As always – you’re right on the money…
Talk about, “what can Brown do for you?” I’ll tell you what. Show up to camp in two-a-day shape g-damit. I would have expected this out of Frank Okam, but not Duane Brown. The fact that he was lauded for being the “most athletic” on the Va Tech roster (via the 2007 media guide) would make me think that he would have been ready willing and able to at least make it through practice. Not the best news coming out of the initial days of camp, that’s for sure.
Now this the part of the post where I cut the rookie some slack. Aside from the summer camps, this is probably the only time he’s gone up against competition this good. Real men with real men strength and abilities. I have a feeling they (the coaching staff) ran him extra hard to keep him humble – with the new contract and all. Kind of an introduction to professional football.
My gut tells me he’ll be fine… so I’ll refrain from badmouthing for now.
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by SOLIS on Jul 28, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"My gut tells me he'll be fine..."
very punny, Solis
by Shake on Jul 28, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what my gut told me...
His gut told me he like cheeseburgers.
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by SOLIS on Jul 28, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you SOLIS
My gut tells me he will be fine eventually, but I don’t want to settle for eventually. Texan nation needs this young man to step up and play solidly from the get go. The brutal Texas heat has felled many a rookie over the years, but as you aptly pointed out Duane Brown came in with very high expectations, and the size of his gut alone was a telling indicator that he did not work out between OTA’s and camp. Smith has assembled a nice little team for us to get behind, but there are several key pieces that have to perform well for the team to reach it’s playoff goal. Like it or not D. Brown is at or near the top of that list of key pieces. No slam to Salaam, he is a serviceable player, but not a playoff caliber LT.
GO TEXANS!!!!!!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Jul 29, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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