Open Game Day Thread: Pittsburgh Part Two - The Revenge
by SOLIS
on Sep 7, 2008 1:38 PM CDT
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Back by popular demand... its the second half thread. Leave your comments, questions, concerns, and suicide notes in the comments below.
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Learn to tackle
I hear it works wonders in the NFL
by DisplacedTexan on
Sep 7, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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Way to go Weaver
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:41 PM CDT
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What did Weaver do?
My audio is still jacked
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 1:41 PM CDT
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Nothing
Home town call
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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we're still not sure
couldnt see what they saw
by BigTexBD on
Sep 7, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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cant we just take a lb
to help stuff up the right side of our d-line. they’re pounding us. that was bullshit
by BigTexBD on
Sep 7, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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Unsurprisingly...
The Steelers are crushing the Texans, while the Titans are beating the Jags.
Welcome to reality, boys.
This is exactly how it was supposed to happen.
by BeansCarter on
Sep 7, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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Go home
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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Quick question
Who the fuck are you? And why do I care what inane bullshit is currently pouring out of your asshole?
by DisplacedTexan on
Sep 7, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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Nice of you to drop by
I believe this is the definition of trolling.
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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Mendenhall
and Michael Turner look pretty good today. Ahman and Slaton, not so much.
by Jersey Bill on
Sep 7, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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Slaton
has not look too bad, but the Olone has been DOMINATED at the POA.
by Triple347 on
Sep 7, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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He had one
play where he picked the blitz up really well….
by Triple347 on
Sep 7, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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Mario up to five tackles...
or something like that
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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Did Ben throw once?
That entire drive?
by DisplacedTexan on
Sep 7, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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Not that I remember
Why can’t we stop the run to the outside?
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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you know what would be cool?
is if our D didn’t roll over and shit themselves every snap. with the exception of mario, of course.
by BigTexBD on
Sep 7, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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Big Tex
Send in your DC resume. To me, that sounds like a good plan. The coaching staff must not think so, though.
by Jersey Bill on
Sep 7, 2008 1:49 PM CDT
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Resume' Objective
“To acquire a position with a forward-thinking franchise, which embraces my theory of not letting the Defense roll over and shit themselves every snap.”
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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Parker
has more TD’s in this game that he did all of last year………..
by Triple347 on
Sep 7, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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Morlon Greenwood. Paging, Morlon Greenwood. You are wanted on the field Mr. Greenwood.
by bigfatdrunk on
Sep 7, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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Meant to tell you...
I saw him outside chasing an old Dutch woman on her bike. He missed. Actually ran into a street light.
by DisplacedTexan on
Sep 7, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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Where is Matt, shouldn't he be pep talking Greenwood?
by UofTOrange on
Sep 7, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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Maybe he can write a rap about how he's fashionably late
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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Oh, good
I was hoping we would get to start on the 14
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 1:49 PM CDT
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You too?
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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Nothing better than an 86 yard drive to paydirt
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:51 PM CDT
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Why are we trying to run Slaton between the tackles?
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:52 PM CDT
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I thought
blind, elderly nuns were supposed to flourish in the ZBS.
by Jersey Bill on
Sep 7, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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havent you heard?
today we’re trying to mae things harder on ourselves
by BigTexBD on
Sep 7, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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Dear Kyle
Please stop hitting “Ask Madden” and actually look at your f*ing play chart.
by DisplacedTexan on
Sep 7, 2008 1:52 PM CDT
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+1
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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Great coverage on the punt
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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Well
At least Turk is averaging over 50 per punt.
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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As I'm taking notes
You know, for the blogging thing – I actually wrote:
“I’m cheering punts – bleh”
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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Turnover
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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Wishfull thinking
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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Help me out
Video has been out since before the punt
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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We suck.
Except for Mario. And Turk.
by DisplacedTexan on
Sep 7, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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remember the first half of the preseason game with the Cowboys?
by 1Texan on
Sep 7, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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We have trouble with the 3-4
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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Can we get a 3rd down stop?
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:57 PM CDT
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nope
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 1:57 PM CDT
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Dear Richard Smith
They are going to run the ball on 90% of the plays for the rest of the game in order to avoid turnover. I hope this insider information helps you. And when I say ‘helps’, I mean ‘kills’.
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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Doesn't help
That the defense has been on the field for about 2 years.
by DisplacedTexan on
Sep 7, 2008 1:59 PM CDT
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True
But they only have themselves to blame for that
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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Yes and no
It would help if the offense put together a drive that went longer than 3 plays.
by DisplacedTexan on
Sep 7, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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These announcers....
Make me want to punch a small child and drop-kick a puppy.
by DisplacedTexan on
Sep 7, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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That'd be quite an accomplishment
Tougher than chewing gum & walking at the same time, I reckon
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 1:59 PM CDT
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This reminds me of the SD game
Mixed in with the first Jags game
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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Mustard Gas
That’s just the first thing that came to mind.
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
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Our guys are not into this game at all
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:02 PM CDT
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Good News!!!
my wife just brought beer and pizza!
by 1Texan on
Sep 7, 2008 2:02 PM CDT
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Oh yeah....forgot about that
See how well I pay attention?
My wife loves that about me.
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 2:05 PM CDT
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Pizza sounds good
I have a fridge FULL of beer.
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:03 PM CDT
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Destruction.
Perfect word for this game.
by Jersey Bill on
Sep 7, 2008 2:02 PM CDT
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I guess the flight isn't that long
Especially when you don’t bother to show up.
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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to make things worse
the guy im playing in fantasy this week has hines ward.
by BigTexBD on
Sep 7, 2008 2:03 PM CDT
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ooooh.
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:04 PM CDT
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dave has fw parker in our league
he’s a traitor
by bigfatdrunk on
Sep 7, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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Pardon me for a second:
I didn’t buy a god damn slingbox to watch a redux of 2005. Get your fucking heads out of your collective asses at make a passing attempt to play some fucking football. Jesus tap-dancing christ this is an embarrassment of epic proportions and I’m seriously considering murder.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:05 PM CDT
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Well,
Guess it’s back to the old drawing board for ol’ Kubiak and the cheap chop-blocking scheme.
Maybe you guys shouldn’t have been so assinine and arrogant about how good your team was in the preseason. Your team is not very good, and the performance today proves it.
It must feel pretty bad, if the Titans ever got crushed like that i know I would feel bad.
Hope things turn around for you guys; I just don’t think this is the year.
by BeansCarter on
Sep 7, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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y'all...
don’t feed the troll. the titans look like shit.
by bigfatdrunk on
Sep 7, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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Oh hey there!
I was hoping someone would come along to remind me that they still let siblings marry in the deep south.
by DisplacedTexan on
Sep 7, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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Hey you
Shut the fuck up.
And don’t get started on arrogance.
by tehGrindCrusher on
Sep 7, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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Dear Crusher
Please use smaller words when feeding the troll. Thank you.
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 2:08 PM CDT
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I feel like
I woke up and it was 2005.
What the fuck.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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There will be better days
They can’t be any worse…
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:10 PM CDT
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In other news
The greatest rb ever just broke off a career high 26 yard run.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:10 PM CDT
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VY
74 yards through the air. But, he’s such a leader. And has smoked sausage.
by Jersey Bill on
Sep 7, 2008 2:12 PM CDT
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youd be surprised
lots of people want his sausage in their mouth
by BigTexBD on
Sep 7, 2008 2:14 PM CDT
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Justice would like to be served...
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:18 PM CDT
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brown looks horrible
sorry. has to be said.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:14 PM CDT
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Does he?
Because the same could be said for Winston and Myers
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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And Pitts
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Sep 7, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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He got beat off the snap a few times that caused the running play to shut down
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:18 PM CDT
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Schaub hesitated after the movement
and after they all moved in….he called for the hike….shit!
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Sep 7, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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Thank god this is the last pre-season game
Wait… what?
Oh. Oh I see….
by DisplacedTexan on
Sep 7, 2008 2:16 PM CDT
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If Leftwich
does anything of value in this quarter, I’m going out to by a Jet hat and a Favre jersey.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:16 PM CDT
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That would be understandable
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:17 PM CDT
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no....their second string QB sucked like our 1st string QB
by 1Texan on
Sep 7, 2008 2:19 PM CDT
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Be fair
With today’s domination/destruction of our O-line, Carr would have in the neighborhood of 17 sacks and 5 INTs. So we are definitely better off.
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 2:21 PM CDT
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I agree about Carr
But think you’ll see schaub do better against a 2nd string
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Sep 7, 2008 2:22 PM CDT
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Not Matt, but I called Tim
I got his voice mail… I would like to think that he hasn’t been humiliated to death yet.
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:21 PM CDT
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I'll let you know
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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Gives us hope for the rest of the season
s
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:19 PM CDT
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Who the hell is Ref 77?
He’s on my shit list
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Sep 7, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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You've been jacked
So, if Ike fucks with my trip home Friday then I am going to murder Al Gore. Something good should come out of a hurricane, IMO.
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 2:25 PM CDT
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Our biggest play of the day!
Haha he grabbed AJ’s leg.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:25 PM CDT
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where's the "welcome to the nfl" comment
assholes
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Sep 7, 2008 2:25 PM CDT
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Especially after the 7 yard run
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:25 PM CDT
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Hey we're moving the ball!!
away from the goal!
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Sep 7, 2008 2:26 PM CDT
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Tim sent a msg
He says the Pitt fans are pretty much pitying him… Great
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:27 PM CDT
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KW is awesome.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:27 PM CDT
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Great catch by K-Dub
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:28 PM CDT
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Hey send me your phone # via email
Have some things about the game I’d like to discuss… BRB to DGDB&D
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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Rams
Keeping us from having the most embarrassing scoreline of the weekend!
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Sep 7, 2008 2:28 PM CDT
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Okay guys!
Let’s list the positives with 9 mins left
1: Mario
2: Turk
3……….oh fans are leaving the stadium
by 1Texan on
Sep 7, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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No injuries?
Aside from my sense of self-worth.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:32 PM CDT
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ahmahnhnhn green didnt hurt himself
but im not sure just how good that is
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Sep 7, 2008 2:33 PM CDT
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ITS AMAZING
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:33 PM CDT
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Miracle
That’s the word you were looking for
by Shake on
Sep 7, 2008 2:34 PM CDT
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Mario healed him.
He can do that, you know…
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Sep 7, 2008 2:35 PM CDT
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2.8 ypc
vs. Green’s 5.6 ypc
That’s not really very OK
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Sep 7, 2008 2:34 PM CDT
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It's more the line
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Sep 7, 2008 2:35 PM CDT
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Right
There’s something to be said about that
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:37 PM CDT
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Verteran Vision
That might be the something
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Sep 7, 2008 2:38 PM CDT
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jacques reeves did not embarass himself
they were picking on fred, it seems
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Sep 7, 2008 2:33 PM CDT
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re: mario
He makes Dos XX’s “most interesting man in the universe” look perfectly average
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Sep 7, 2008 2:35 PM CDT
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Mario
just helped deliver twins in the stands.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:37 PM CDT
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Why god why?
Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
V. Young 12/21 110 1 2
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Sep 7, 2008 2:37 PM CDT
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Oh, suprise!
He has to get back on the field.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:38 PM CDT
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This is where we get our make up call damn it
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:38 PM CDT
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Steelers' fans
Are claiming we already got the makeup call w/ the Hines Ward O-PI in the 1st half.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:39 PM CDT
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They may have a point
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Sep 7, 2008 2:40 PM CDT
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Damn.
I hate to lose that time out. That’s going to be crucial down the stretch.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:40 PM CDT
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I'm laughing on the inside.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:42 PM CDT
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BE-SF
Bring collins in for 1 throw…. 44-yard pick-up.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:43 PM CDT
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What's that?
Five fucking sacks?
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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Shit!
Salaam is getting beat by the second string!
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Sep 7, 2008 2:46 PM CDT
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There hasn't been enough OD in this game...
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Sep 7, 2008 2:47 PM CDT
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slaton
just has more burst than green, and he keeps his legs moving. I’m really enjoying watching him.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:48 PM CDT
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Hey
Send me your # via email… I’d like to discuss this game
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:50 PM CDT
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The video sucks
But seriously, Schaub just looks flat scared right now.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:48 PM CDT
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Remember Carolina
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:49 PM CDT
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That commercial...
Made me uncomfortable.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:51 PM CDT
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They need to take AJ out of this game
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by SOLIS on
Sep 7, 2008 2:52 PM CDT
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The name says Solis
But it sounds like Matt.
Odd.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:53 PM CDT
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All due respect to Matt
I sound nothing like the CW Adrock
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Sep 7, 2008 2:54 PM CDT
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I believe you
Mainly because I don’t think God would make that mistake twice.
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Sep 7, 2008 2:55 PM CDT
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Nicely put
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Sep 7, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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Just so we're clear...
I hate all of you.
Yay, sports.
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Sep 7, 2008 4:35 PM CDT
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That play was bad
The receivers brought all the defenders to the right…..WTF….we made it, but….
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Sep 7, 2008 2:55 PM CDT
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Anybody gonna stay around for a few minutes?
and let me know what happens with other Noon games?
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Sep 7, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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from MM at the Chron
Matt Schaub made poor decisions and was off on his throws – just like he was against Dallas. He finished the first half with two interceptions, zero touchdowns and passer rating of just 40.9. In comparison, Ben Roethlisberger’s passer rating was 142.9.
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Yeah, your QB made our D look really, really good. They were still good, don’t get me wrong, but you guys definitely dropped the ball a lot so to speak.
I’m not here to rub it in though. Better luck next week, you guys have a tough road to row. I’m glad we won, but hope you guys can dominate the rest of your schedule to make us look better. That and I’m always for the underdog. Our division is a piece of crap, yours is absolutely friggin solid. We’ll get to play them all, oh great.
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Sep 7, 2008 3:42 PM CDT
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Oh yeah, your boy Mario is amazing. Friggin incredible.
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Sep 7, 2008 9:34 PM CDT
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Dear Beans Carter--
Your franchise QB went 12/22, 110 yds, 1 TD, 2 INT. That is awful.
Here is where you say something lame about “at least we won,” but that doesn’t change the fact that your best QB is your backup and that your team is still going to suck over the course of the year. Nor does it change that your parents were likely related before they married.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 7, 2008 4:37 PM CDT
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ROFLMAO!!!
In the face of ignominious defeat, you throw this ignorant crap at me?
Pathetic! But not as pathetic as getting absolutely throttled by the Pittsburgh Steelers.
You wanna feel good about Vince Young playing poorly and and getting injured, then more power to you. in the meantime I am going to enjoy our win and your exquisitely laughable loss.
Your team is not who you thought they were; meanwhile, the Titans are sitting squarely atop the AFC South.
Not sure what you’ll keep saying as your season shifts from ugly to un-salvageable, but I’m sure it will be priceless, awkward, will betray your level of literacy and will likely include some tired old joke about Southern inbreeding..
I get to sleep tonight knowing that I was right and you were wrong. 2 “experts” out of 16 had you in the playoffs.
38-17.
Is it your defense that is supposed to be good?
Because they’re not.
Is your offense supposed to be good?
They’re not good either.
Maybe you should be proud of your zone blocking scheme, because if all else fails at least you can feel good about destroying some knee ligaments this year.
by BeansCarter on
Sep 7, 2008 10:40 PM CDT
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Your team...
played like ass on offense but won because the defense was good and because David Garrard is not as good as advertised. We lost to one of the two or three best teams (of which your team is not one) in the AFC. If you really think yesterday means all that much, I expect you to still be trolling around here once the Titans are squarely in last in the division.
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Also, next time you want to talk about someone’s level of literacy, please ensure that your post is not full of punctuational errors. OK? Thanks.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 8, 2008 7:55 AM CDT
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What was that you said?
We won, and you lost?
That’s what I thought. Thanks for confirming.
I’ll be sure to remind you from here on out every time we win and you lose. Be ready, it mostly happens on Sundays.
by BeansCarter on
Sep 8, 2008 9:00 AM CDT
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Exactly
But do you have the sack to show up when you lose and we win? Because that is going to happen much more frequently.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 8, 2008 9:30 AM CDT
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Yes...
Just like the last two years, where you didn’t beat us, and just like last year where you went 1-5 in the division.
I’m really worried.
Get a clue, genius.
by BeansCarter on
Sep 8, 2008 10:29 AM CDT
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Football Outsiders...
projects the Titans with 6.7 wins and the Texans with 8.9. Your continued use of last year (and even week 1) as a map for how this year is going to go will make you look retarded in the end. I will be sure to point it out after it happens, too.
How’s your “franchise” QB doing today?
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 8, 2008 11:58 AM CDT
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No wonder they are football "outsiders"
Usually, it’s the insiders that actually have a clue what they are talking about.
But no matter, I believe we play each other in week #3? Is this correct?
It will be really satisfying to beat up on your cherished under-achieving team.
When we beat you, what will you say then? Will you have some other idiotic and assinine statement about how despite what the facts prove, your team is clearly better than the 0-3 record suggests?
Usually, a sports fan looks forward to the rivalries their team faces; the real battles where it is actually difficult to beat your opponent. Delusional nutbars like you even make me look forward to beating up on second tier teams like the Texans.
by BeansCarter on
Sep 8, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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I hope Vince is playing in week 3
the deep ball from Vodka Collins against our secondary would be scary
by Shake on
Sep 8, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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I was gonna say
I think I’d rather have Radio in there. Despite all the winning he does, he’s still worse than Vodka.
by tehGrindCrusher on
Sep 8, 2008 3:32 PM CDT
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Football Outsiders
is a far more reliable source than your rampant speculation. You’ll forgive me if I think more of their prognostication than yours.
If we are 0-3, I will have to rethink my position. This is not something I have to do after a week 1 loss, however, especially when nearly everyone except Titans fans predicted that the Texans would have a better record than the Titans in 2008. If you want to keep hanging your hat on a week 1 one win and deluding yourself into believing the Titans are a “top tier” team, be my guest. It will make the impending fall even more entertaining to watch.
In the same vein as your question, what will you have to say about the great Tennessee Titans when you are below .500 and miss the playoffs?
Also, please learn to use a semi-colon properly.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 8, 2008 2:04 PM CDT
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Go check the Vegas lines...
The “money” has us winning more games than the Texans this season.
If you don’t think that matters, then clearly you’ll be highly motivated to put your money where your misguided mouth is.
I imagine you’ll feel quite demoralized if you lose to the Ravens next week, but in retrospect I don’t think you will… I mean, the Ravens are a garbage team, but the Texans are merely a mediocre team. Your team couldn’t lose to Flacco and the Ravens, coud they?
(p.s. Thanks for pointing out my spelling mistakes, I never realized how important these can be on a football blog.)
by BeansCarter on
Sep 8, 2008 2:19 PM CDT
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Vegas
Clearly Vegas, driven by its altruistic goal to provide in-depth football analysis and not by some desire to get people to bet a certain way, is a more objective observer than people who do statistical analysis and predictions for a living. How could I have doubted you if Vegas believed in the Titans?
Oh, wait, the Titans are -130 to win over 8 games and the Texans are -125 to win over 7.5. Jesus, what a spread. What clear and indisputable evidence that Vegas heavily favors the Titans! Because, obviously, there is no grey area; linemaking is an exact science, thus the Titans will win 8 games and the Texans will win 7.5. You sold me on your point of view.
Not sure what you’ll keep saying as your season shifts from ugly to un-salvageable, but I’m sure it will be priceless, awkward, will betray your level of literacy and will likely include some tired old joke about Southern inbreeding..
You are the one who started talking about people’s ability to read. Surely you extend that to spelling (which I never mentioned, leading me to question YOUR level of literacy) as well as punctuation.
Also, “in retrospect” applies to past events, not future. It means “to reflect or look back upon.” I’m pretty sure you can’t look back upon a game that is going to take place in 6 days. Though, really, considering you are basing your entire argument on previous years and a game that just happened, I guess this gaffe should not be surprising.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 8, 2008 2:57 PM CDT
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It is not surprising that your
spastic, emotional diatribe departed from football and went back to punctuation issues.
The “retrospect” comment was relative to my first suggestion that you’d be 0-3, meaning that I had previously forecast a loss against the Ravens.
So, please, MDC, stop being so petty and pedantic. What are you, an unemployed high school teacher trying to relive his glory days?
Let me explain something to you…
Sports gambling, especially with respect to pro football, is a highly efficient market, where multiple sources of experts competing to gain an edge push gambling lines to their true value. Go to school and take an introductory Finance course… You will learn about a concept known as the Efficient Markets Hypothesis. In a nutshell, this theory postulates that capital markets (i.e. stock prices) quickly move to reflect all available information and converge to their market cleaing price (where supply equals demand – the true value). The more liquid and financially-oriented a trading market is, the more efficient it is. NFL betting is analogous to this notion.
I’ll take the line put out by Las Vegas Sports Consultants and subsequently adjusted by the bookies and bettors any day over the singular input of the “Football Outsiders” error-prone analysis that suffers from statistical shortfalls and fails to model psychological variables such as confidence, emotional incentive, and personnel turnover.
So where does that leave us? Slightly better than you in terms of expected record. At least that was the case before yesterday’s game. Still, you do admit that we were expected to win more games than the Texans. But now, after an ugly, embarassing week 1 loss by the Texans and a win by the Titans, I’d imagine if that bet was still available, the odds would tilt considerably in the Titans favour.
At the end of the day, our D looks mean, hungry, and dominant. We have a stud rookie running back and a tough, effective O-line. We can safely expect to win more games than your beloved Texans. After the way the Texans played yesterday, your desparate attempt to cling to the hope that they are somehow a team on the rise is shattered.
Vince who? Our season doesn’t rest on one player’s shoulders, despite what you may think.
Usually, one would be correct to say “it’s only one game”, however, when you get completely destroyed by another team in such a lop-sided way, it tends to be an excellent indicator that there are some serious issues with your team.
I can’t wait for week #3!
by BeansCarter on
Sep 8, 2008 4:14 PM CDT
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Newsflash
Even granting that Vegas models are fluid, I stopped reading after “fails to model psychological variables such as confidence, emotional incentive, and personnel turnover.” Tell me, how the hell would you measure confidence so as to include it in an analysis? Are you suggesting that Vegas models somehow include “emotional incentive?” Are there scales for such things?
Also, please point to a specific example of the FO projections being error-prone for the reasons you cited. Otherwise, we are still left with you throwing out conjecture and speculation based on nothing but your insistence that week 1 somehow paints a picture of what the rest of the year will be.
Get back to me on the above and we can continue with this. Or ignore the assertion and continue your incessant internet trolling. Whatever.
As for your other “point,” I went to school, I majored in business (empahses in finance and accounting), and then I went on to one of the best law schools in the country. If you really want to go down this road, we can. And if you really want to pretend that your use of “retrospect” makes sense, go for it, but you are still incorrect.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 8, 2008 4:31 PM CDT
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I think I've proven my point.
I believe you when you say you have a law background. The fact that you went to one of the best law schools in the country is really great for you. When I have some spare time, I’ll be sure to bake you some hero biscuits and ship them over.
Your legal background would explain your twisted love-affair with punctuation. It might also explain why, as your BRB friends might say, you keep feeding the troll. Do you always insist on getting the last word in?
I did not say that Vegas “models” psychological biases. I cited this as a shortfall of FO. With Vegas lines, however, these variables are factored into the “price”. The concensus opinion of every single person who examines and bets is factored into the price, no matter how people come to their conclusions.
I won’t bother digging for evidence of FO failed forecasts since that hardly strikes me as a fun way to spend my time but with your business education you must be familiar with sample size issues, poor fit, non-linearity…blah blah blah. I’m just not interested in educating you on statistics and why they often fail to capture reality.
I am most interested, however, in proving that my team is far better than yours. Yesterday, I got one step closer to accomplishing that goal, and that makes me happy.
Now come back MDC and get the last word in, you know you want to…
by BeansCarter on
Sep 8, 2008 4:55 PM CDT
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What I hear you saying is...
“I won’t bother digging for evidence of FO failed forecasts since I was just talking out of my ass and I have no real idea whether that was actually true.”
“I’m just not interested in educating you on statistics because I really don’t have that good of a grasp on them as evidenced by my continued insistence that they somehow only apply when they favor my team.”
"The concensus [sic] opinion of every single person who examines and bets is factored into the price, but, then again, Vegas lost on 4 to 6 games yesterday (depending on your sports book), so I guess they are pretty fallible, too.
How was that for the last word? Or do you have some “witty” retort?
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 8, 2008 6:51 PM CDT
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the worst part is...
You are a sucky troll. Seriously.
by bigfatdrunk on
Sep 8, 2008 9:34 PM CDT
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And the funniest part is...
The Texans are a sucky team. Seriously.
By the way, nobody used better words to describe your Sunday spectacle than the beat writer from the Houston Chronicle…
Steelers “hammer” Texans. Schaub sacked 5 times, defense “torched” for 5 touchdowns.
In a wretched performance reminiscent of their expansion season, the Texans were surprisingly unprepared. Simply put, they were outcoached and outplayed in a 38-17 undressing by the Pittsburgh Steelers.
It only starts there…. You can read the rest here –
What a joke! Before the game you bloggers were talking smack about how great your team was gonna be this year, and more importantly how you were better than the Titans. Now, all you can do is criticize my spelling. Crestfallen much?
by BeansCarter on
Sep 9, 2008 7:00 AM CDT
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Now, all you can do is criticize my spelling.
Not true. We also pointed out how asinine your arguments were and made fun of you for talking shit based on one game, especially a game where your offense looked like dogshit.
Also, for the last damned time, I didn’t criticize your spelling. I criticized your punctuation and word usage (and questioned your level of literacy for continuing to suggest I said anything about your spelling).
Quick, tell me again that the Titans are better! Hurry!
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 9, 2008 7:19 AM CDT
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LOL!
MDC, you’re beautiful. Again, not willing to talk about football, because you don’t have much to offer, do you?
You do, however, excel at being an overbearing, insecure, self-absorbed, nit-picking, pedantic, obsessive and petty blogger. You remind of a lapdog, you know… those little yappers that have a high pitched bark and nip at your heels.
I know you’re coming back, because you’re probably just deluded enough to think that a casual observer would think you’re somehow proving something here.
Except what you don’t realize is that a casual observer is probably also aware of the fact that the Texans played like a girl’s high school lacrosse team last weekend, while the Titans took out the Jags and seized first place in the AFC South. Those casual observers would also probably feel sorry for you. I know I do.
So go ahead and give me your snarky reply… Feel free to flame this post, come up with some ad hominem arguments and dodge the issue with some more prosaic head fakes. That’s what I want to see.
by BeansCarter on
Sep 9, 2008 12:25 PM CDT
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Facts:
You (barely) beat a team that people with any sense (read: me) picked to struggle this year.
We lost to the best team in the AFC.
You are trying to suggest that these disparate results somehow prove that the Texans suck while the Titans are great.
No head fakes here; you are just a myopic moron or a troll, either one of which is easily dismissed by anyone who doesn’t delight in irritating people (again, read: me).
You want to continue to talk about football? Your QB is an injured headcase who is one or two more boos away from suicide and who, if he doesn’t off himself, will either come back to a team that has dropped three or four games OR that has won four and doesn’t want him back. Great draft pick there.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 9, 2008 8:29 PM CDT
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I am not sure if the Titans are "great"
But yes, I do believe the facts demonstrate that the Texans suck.
I also remember the Jags beating the Steelers in the playoffs last year, 31-29 with almost exactly the same personnel and coaching staffs. Best team in the AFC? Doubtful, and certainly not because they pounded the crap out of you cupcakes.
I really hope our “headcase” doesn’t commit suicide… Your comment is about as classy as a holocaust joke in a synagogue.
by BeansCarter on
Sep 9, 2008 9:16 PM CDT
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Also
Just so we are clear, I am never going to drop this or let this go. So keep replying if you want. It gives me something to do in between congratulating myself that my life is unquestionably better than yours.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 9, 2008 8:31 PM CDT
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This Is Over
This adds absolutely nothing to the dialogue. Comments are closed.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on
Sep 10, 2008 8:56 AM CDT
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I heard yesterday on FOX NFL Sunday that the Texans would upset the Steelers.
Maybe FOX can replace Terry, Howie and Jimmy on Sundays with Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Greta Van Susteren and Shepard Smith. FOX should just air repeats of American Idol other than FOX NFL Sunday. Nice going guys, the Texans got destroyed. I think the CW should have the NFL rather than FOX after that prediction…
Philip Fitzsimmons says Padres rule,Dodgers suck!
by Philip Fitzsimmons on
Sep 8, 2008 8:13 AM CDT
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