Owen Daniels "Likely Done For The Year"
by Jake on Nov 1, 2009 3:55 PM CST
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I know everyone is celebrating the win, but today wasn't an all out victory for the Texans. The Houston Chronicle is reporting that Owen Daniels is likely out for the season with a torn ligament in his knee. Obviously, this suck for both the Texans and Daniels who was on pace to shatter his career bests in yardage, receptions and touch downs.
I guess Rick Smith has the ability to look like a genius for drafting two tight ends this year. One way or another, it will be interesting to see what they have in James Casey. He didn't look phenomenal or bad today, but he'll have a full week with the starters to try and fill OD's shoes against one of the biggest games of the year in Indianapolis. Sorry to crap in everyone's cereal.
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DANG! I just voted him All-Pro, too!!!!
Well, you are right about Rick Smith. We several backup TE’s and Thor is one of them, and right now, we have to feel lucky that he is! The guy has been just short of phenomenal on special teams this year and he has the hands. I don’t expect him to be Owen Daniels but here is his chance to help this team where it needs him!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
And to lose him in a blowout...what a waste.
Still, Dreesen and Casey are very good.
Hate injuries. Having a good season is subject to so much random chance…
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A bad sprain is a bad thing
3rd degree sprain is a complete rupture of the ligament. Lets hope for the best and a mild 1st degree sprain.
Hate to see that Daniels is the real Deal
I made a post about the pro bowl TE’s and how Davis may be number one, but I also had in mind if I said the NFL Daniels would be number 1. TOugh loss, sorry to hear about it.
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"Child Please" -Ochocinco
Dreesen is a nice piece to have on the team
but Casey is far more talented as a receiver even if he doesn’t have the experience. With the amount that this team utilizes the TE in the passing game, it would be pretty shocking for Casey to not be the number 1.
R.I.P Jazz #6
Casey understands getting open a bit better...
But, he looked a little lost after the catch; two left feet sorta thing. Getting reps in practice as the #1 will smooth that out.
I think the
dude was just so excited he caught the ball both times and started thinking too much and just wiped out on his own. Now that he busted his cherry he should be ready to run with the ball once he catches it. I had to laugh when I saw him do that. He’ll do fine but he won’t be the #1 – that will be Dressen.
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
Dreessen is the likely started, methinks
I like seeing Casey in the mix though and he played well today.
Just going off what I saw
Casey was in on almost all of the passing plays that I saw after Daniels went down. I wouldn’t be surprised though if it is a mix of the two. I do think that Casey is a better fit to fill what Daniels does in the passing game.
You know... for kids.
yep
thanks for the turd in the cheerios, jake. All your fault, man.
It’d be a tough loss, but I’m actually pretty hopeful for Dreesen and Casey. They both have good potential, though it’s obviously a steep drop.
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
NO!!!
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that Owen Daniels’ knee injury will cost him the rest of 2009.
Daniels went down on a first-quarter play in Sunday’s win over the Bills. He appeared dejected on the sideline afterwards, so it’s not surprising to find out that the injury was serious. Joel Dreessen and rookie James Casey will pick up snaps. Daniels was the No. 1 overall fantasy tight end heading into Week 8. Kevin Walter may be the biggest beneficiary of his loss. Nov. 1 – 5:00 pm et
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Nov 1, 2009 4:25 PM CST reply actions
A big loss...but
The texans have enough weapons to deal with this loss, but crap..it sucks because OD was having a monster season.
We still have Andre, Walter, Jacoby, Slaton, Davis, Dreesen, Casey, David Anderson, and now Moats.
Schaub should still be able to get Td’s, he is just going to have to look somewhere else. Thats what great qb’s in this league do, so lets see if Schaub can do it.
Lets hope OD comes back and has a monster year next season. We should still try hard to keep him. Id pay whatever it takes to keep Demeco and OD, they are great players. Get rid of Dunta, GQ looks like he can step up for next season.
Rick Smith is too smart to let him go
But this is definitely going to be a BIG piece of the negotiation when dealing with his new contract. Same thing with Dunta, gotta prove you can produce for an entire year before Smith will open up the wallet.
I can only hope
The chron is as wrong about this injury as they are about this:
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2009/10/yes_the_texans.html
But they’re probably not.
Richard Justice
He should be banned from writing about football.
by Chris89 on Nov 1, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
'Lil Dickie
Is who we thought he was! …and the comicle have continually let him off the hook!
by b0wse on Nov 2, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
That's a pretty good one...
Outta left field.
Very nice.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
I WISH it was Dickie reporting OD was done for the year.
Bc that means he’s be skipping rope tomorrow morning.
So, did Justice write while laying in bed with VY...
Did the dude just roll over and nudge VY and say, “Hey schnookems, I’m writing an article about you in the paper today.”?
Tosses VY’s salad
Seriously, Justice’s gay lovefest for UT and it’s players is getting embarrassing for him and the chronicle. They need to cut ties with this big-headed douche and pick up one of our bloggers from this place. The chronicle sux because of guys like him and McClain.
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by H-town Fanatic on Nov 1, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Justice is horrid
But at least I can read what McClain writes without tasting barf in my mouth.
I am always impressed by how much better all of the “Fan Blogs” are than the professionals on chron it’s scary!
You can't fix Dumb
by Texans-Brocos on Nov 1, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
OK bfd
you lost me man
You can't fix Dumb
by Texans-Brocos on Nov 2, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
The Beauty of the whole situation...
we are a deep team and while losing OD, the best TE in football, this can be overcome.
GO TEXANS!!!!
This is the year.......
Joel
Has looked all right this year, he’s not OD, but OD isn’t our only weapon
I guess
We’ll finally get a look at Hill, for whatever that’s worth
I think
That’s about right, yeah. But I don’t think Casey blocks very well. So they’ll probably have to rotate the three of them and put all of them in if they want to run a 3 te set. So I think we’ll end up seeing all 3 in some combination. Casey and Joel mostly.
People forget (or didn't know, as I assume is the case)
that Hill led his college team in receptions and yards in his soph. or jr. year.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
We’ll see. I think considering his massiveness he could make an interesting target for Schaub. Wouldn’t mind seeing more three tight end sets.
what else can you say other than....
fuck fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfu fuckfuckfuckfuckfu fuckfuck
gonna miss ya, OD.
Ok, this may be a naive question,
but what is the difference between a sprain and a torn ligament? Without an MRI how can the trainers be sure it’s a torn ligament and not just a bad sprain? I’m just trying to hold out hope of a misdiagnosis and a healthy OD.
again
a torn ligament is a sprain. It’s like saying a broken bone is more than a fracture. And yes they will need the MRI to be sure there are tests that give a pretty good idea as to the degree of the sprain. I don’t know if they do MRIs as a precautionary measure or only if the field tests are bad but to me it’s not a good sign.
This is tough
Daniels was the athletic TE who kept defenses honest with their coverage. LBs were too slow, so safeties had to account for him and our WRs when running routes. Shanny and Kubes are gonna have to get creative with the passing game, because Casey, although an athletic stud, isn’t the caliber of Daniels. Not yet anyways. I think Casey can develop into a deece TE, but the Texans will need to stretch the field and revert back to some WR screens to keep those defenses honest here on out.
Jacoby Jones and Kevin Walter need to step it up. Casey and Dreesen just need to play steady football and protect the ball when they catch it. Tough, tough loss for the Texans and this might have cost Daniels a lot of $$$, but here’s to a speedy recovery to the best TE in the league.
"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips
And I was really looking foward to
A Daniels v. Clark matchup next week. Well, shit.
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
FUCK FUCK SHIT DAMN SHIT FUCK
- WHAT THE FUCK WE NEED HIM AGAIST THE COLTS WTF FUCKIN SHIT SHIT SHIT FUCK FUCK GOD MOTHERFUCKIN DAMNIT*
by HereCuzImBored on Nov 1, 2009 6:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
It's bad...
…but not the end of the world. We have serviceable TEs still. On top of that, TEs don’t win championships and KW’s production did increase when OD went out.
Maybe it means we’ll keep him on the cheap next season too.
Tough break for OD who was having a breakout season (in the national eye), but this shouldn’t hurt the Texans going forward because of the offensive depth.
Look at it this way
The Texans are in playoff contention. They just beat the team that beat the Pats, who shutout the Tits 59-0! This is what playoff teams do. They have players that get hurt, they fill-in the slot with the next guy on the depth chart, they keep winning games. Next week will be a huge, huge test to that theory, but I think this team is operating at it’s best, right now, ever, so now is the time to find out.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Indy started hot...
…and are cooling off over the last couple weeks. Peyton’s still Peyton, but they’ve not really had to face a team like ours. After all, this squad was put together to beat Indy, specifically—whether that’s admitted or not. We go to the playoffs through Indy or we don’t go!
blessing in disguise???
think about it. if u r the colts…
who do you gameplan?
slaton or moats?
AJ or KW? or JJ?
dressen or casey?
almost impossible, pick your poison. our defense KNOWS who the playmakers are. that’s the difference.
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by chrisd21 on Nov 1, 2009 6:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions
no its not a blessing to lose OD
but you’re right, we have weapons, and Matt knows how to use them.
I feel like we have a do anything offense. And we finally have a playoff caliber defense.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
If OD is out for the year, I think they will start Dreeson and work Casey in for a few games till he starts. Casey may be the future anyway. we may OD to free agency. I hope not . Any thoughts on that???
by big daddy texan#1 on Nov 1, 2009 6:50 PM CST reply actions
All these reports are
1) From the same “source.” No new information to be given just because it’s on a different website.
2) Educated guesses. There has been no MRI done yet so we all can still hope for the best, that being a severe sprain but one that would allow him to come back in a few weeks.
No idea.
No doctor here either. All I’ve heard is speculation regarding his injury so there’s no certain diagnosis yet, which is why I assume they need the MRI.
My only point is
if you don’t need one to diagnose the ACL tear the source could well be accurate, and they’ll just get him the MRI to confirm/be on the safe side/because ODs a professional athlete.
Not trying to be a dick.
Just trying to hold out hope that maybe the MRI will say something different than what we’ve been hearing.
You really don't need an MRI to diagnose it
What you need is an MRI to see the severity and see if your diagnosis was right. Lots of swelling could make it the wrong one
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I'll say it...
This event, while it sucks, is one reason that the FO is willing to gamble on waiting to offer a new contract. In this case, they just saved the franchise a few million $$$.
Here’s hoping that OD fully recovers, and that we are able to sign him at a fair cost (assuming completion of CBA).
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
and even if it wasn't on purpose
I don’t see DeMeco getting his deal now, for this very reason.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
best QB ever?
safe 2 say with the command that he has of this offense….
he’s the best QB houston has seen since moon.
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by chrisd21 on Nov 1, 2009 8:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
without a flinch or limp.
in fact, his play amped up a bit after getting hit
kudos to the O line.
moats does not rush for 3 touches without em.
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by chrisd21 on Nov 1, 2009 8:29 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
well for what it is worth
i do hope for his sake that it isn’t season ending. with the reports it doesn’t look like it will be the case and they are not often wrong when they talk about season ending as they often are with more minor injuries and deciding a time period. but hold hope hopefully it is the minumum and he is only out a week or two. question?? was he carted off or did he walk off??
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
well mabye it doesnt mean anything but to me it would give me a little more hope that
he walked off no matter in what manner than being carted off.
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 1, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
he made a cut
and separated himself from the trainers.
Schaub saw him open, and almost passed it to him, but instead he threw a screen to Slaton. We all know what heppened next.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Nov 1, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I will hold my breath for the MRI. They reported Chris Cooley as out for the year, just to reverse it a day later to out for 4 weeks.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
Very true.
I’m not dropping him immediately, as I’ve heard OD is such a baddass that his ACL will jump out a la a facehugger in Aliens and burst through your chest in 3 weeks when it was diagnosed he’s out for the year.
awesome.
they read my twitter question on “inside the game.”
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by chrisd21 on Nov 1, 2009 11:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions
i sent 2.... she answered one.
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im looking for a vid of it... hold on...
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can't find any.
spencer said it comes down to who blocks better, tim said he likes dressen.
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Still holding out hope
that OD will not be gone for entire season. I expect the production to pick up for Walter,Jones, and Anderson if we have to play without OD. And Casey will improve each week he plays, hopefully.
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Keep it in perspective. OD is a tough loss....
But you also need to realize that we had ZERO points on the board when SLATON AND OD went out. Every point we scored was without those two in the game.
So while osing OD is rough, the fact is we have the depth and talent at skill positions right now to play through it.
Just Pray that Schaub and AJ stay healthy.
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by TexansForever on Nov 2, 2009 7:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
OK, I'll go ahead and be the douche,
Ok, losing OD sux! Let me say that again in a vain attempt to minimize my doucheiosity a bit, LOSING OD SUCKS! Its bad for him, bad for us, bad for mankind. Period. That’s not the douchy part however…
Now, how will this impact the Texans ability to resign him with a reasonable contract? You know that this injury, coupled with Slaton’s fumbles, really illustrates Smith’s wisdom in not signing folks right after a good stretch. I’ve never been a huge fan of buying high, and have even been bracing for them to trade OD, thinking perhaps the cost of keeping him was going to become prohibitive. Although it didn’t work at all in Dunta’s case (where he lost his f’n mind), coming down to earth can make it much easier to sign guys who you want for the long term. I hope the silver lining on this nasty thunderhead is that we are able to sign OD for a contract that doesn’t destroy our cap position, compromise our ability to score a legit FA or resign our other guys like Walters, Meco and of course most importantly, Orlavsky & the Pep Band.
Not douchey at all.
In fact… You must not know what a douche is, if you think what you said is douchey.
That’s level-headed shit, there, cheech, and you should be commended.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
sure, i know what a douche is...
i had one at this bar once,
totally gross tasting! I would NOT recommend it!
by Smittybaby on Nov 2, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Douche?
I agree with the other response. There’s nothing Douche in your comments. you sound smart.
Douche is the guy on another message board who thinks Kubiak made a mistake benching Slaton and should be fired. And he’s serious.
THAT guy is a douche.
You? Not so much.
by footballfan412 on Nov 2, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
UNRELATED TOPIC ALERT
Check out the Colts blog, they are accusing the niners of cheating. This should get good.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
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No tolerance for cheating
But tolerance for banning anyone who disagree with them on the other hand…
Holy shit
Their post has more about how butt hurt they are about people not wanting them to say the niners cheating then it did about the niners cheating. How up their own assholes are they?
Something I would pay money to see
Big Blue Shoe and Mike Singletary in the same room after BBS calls him a coward.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 2, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
86
what do ya know??? 86 comments james casey number is 86!!!! how special!!!
Up or down 10 my team fight till the end...
The italics! Why oh why oh why?!?!?!?!
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That guy is a loose cannon
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by TexansForever on Nov 2, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
nope
This one’s on H-town Fanatic.
We can blame other stuff on CFHTim.
:-)
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
those colts fans are a little tight in the panties
i told them that peyton didnt lead the league in yards or TD’s and they went postal
Yea I been letting them know that for weeks.
Tell them Brady is better than Paighten, they will then tell you Brady is a cheater and doesn’t deserve any of his rings.
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Did anyone else notice?
Mario didn’t even make the box score. No tackles. No assists. No sacks. Nothing but an unsportsmanlike penalty. And this was the best 4 quarter performance by the defense all year. The craziness just keeps getting crazier.
The curse
First Dre goes down last week and then OD goes down yesterday and now Super Mario is not on the box score. We really are cursed
by Texan Youngster on Nov 2, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
If this make us cursed
I will take it all year long.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 2, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
feed the beast....
i would consider this a sacrifice to the football gods.
good karma dont come cheap people!
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I suspect his shoulder is bothering him more than he lets on.
If we beat the Colts, I nominate that we sit him the week after the bye.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 2, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Oh wait, that's the MNF game, isn't it?
Never mind.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 2, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
believe it is...
i hope od is there for the game to pump us up even more
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Nov 2, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
Right...
And just to be safe, go ahead and inactivate Matt, Andre, and Demeco too.
Seriously, tgc… did Chrisd sell you some of his lala?
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Maybe that's why
All I see are italics.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 2, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
It's official
OD out for the year.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6698814.html
I didn't break the internet this time.
But it is acting weird, everything italicized, and won’t let me reply to posts.
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Has been this way for a few weeks now.
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wow this sucks
With Owen Daniels gone, can the Texans beat colts….mm it would be really hard….they wont win the next game…i hate to say it. Its all downhill from here…i hate to say…
Should we just forfeit the rest?
We should.
A tight end.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
R U DUMB?
Seriously…..you do realize that EVERY SINGLE POINT WE SCORED ON SUNDAY WAS AFTER SLATON AND DANIELS LEFT THE GAME RIGHT?!?!
Moron…..
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by TexansForever on Nov 2, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
James Casey is out 3 weeks!
Kubiak just said in his news conference that Casey is out at least until after the bye.
Looks like Joel Dreesen is going to get a ton of reps. Anthony Hill, as well.
Good news is Kubiak is singing the praise of James Casey. Says he played hurt almost the whole game. That’s impressive. Hurry back Thor!
Ya just heard that.
Looks like they will be working out some tight ends this week and a a fullback.
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by TexansForever on Nov 2, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Welcome back
Putzier, or Bruener.
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Amazing
And then there were two.
From the team with more TE’s than we could count, to two on the roster?
Connor Barwin is running routes as we speak.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
I'm thinking I may go give it a shot.
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by TexansForever on Nov 2, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
I would love to
See mario as the reincarnation of the frig. I would make 1.5 yards every time, no more no less
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by Texans-Brocos on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions
Devastating loss
OD will be missed. My heart goes out to the guy. I wish him the best.
Get ready for the cheap shots
on our TE’s the next 2 games.
The tits and the Colts (who have to play us twice in 4 weeks).
There is a strategic benefit to taking out 1/2 of our remaining TE’s.
I know the tits aren’t above it, hopefully the Colts are better than that.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
I’m thinking Sanders Is going to try to hit Dreesen so hard he is going to get injured again.
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