I love Kubiak, but Cowher?
by chrisjay84 on Nov 23, 2009 11:29 PM CST
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From SBNation.com
"Nov 23, 2009 - At or near the top of almost any NFL coaching list would be longtime Steeler head coach. He brings with him a history of winning, a Super Bowl ring and a jaw that could crank a walnut.
The Bills, currently without a head coach to call their own, made a Hail Mary shoutout to Cowher to see if he might be interested. With the changes to the salary keep looming and the Bills being located in Buffalo, NY, Bill let his suitor down gently.
Cowher informed the team that he is not interested in speaking to any clubs about potential jobs until after the season, however, according to the sources, and he could have several options available to him should he opt to return to coaching in 2010.
Upstate New York copy editors everywhere shed a tear at the lost potential of having a Bill coach the Bills.
That would be that except that Cowher is apparently now telling folks that if that offer would come from the Bears or Texans, he would be much more interested.
An NFL Network report Monday night cited a source that said the idea of coaching the Bears or Texans "would excite,'' Cowher if the job becomes open.
That'll simply make the anti-Lovie contingent among Bears fans even more antsy. But the same report said Cowher would command in the range of $10 million per-season - a staggering price even for a head coach with a Super Bowl ring.
When Jim Mora Jr. floated the idea of coaching the Washington Huskies while employed by the Falcons a few years back, he was vilified. Now Cowher isn't working for another squad, but to publicly throw his name out there for two jobs that currently have head coaches, well that just seems like some sort of breach of Head Coach Fraternity Code. It will be interesting to se if Cowher gets a pass on this, especially in Chicago where many might be more than happy to push Lovie Smith out the door for The Chin."
Now I am a big fan of Kubiak, he's the reason we're actually caring about games after the bye, but could we really pass up on a Super Bowl Champion coach like Cowher? There's no contest Houston would be a much more attractive place to coach than Chicago.
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Koobs has three Super Bowl rings
let him finish what he’s started here
any given Sunday
by Cut Block on Nov 24, 2009 12:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
None as a coach
Cowher has a coaching SB win, that at least in my eyes is worth more.
by Silentjay on Nov 24, 2009 7:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One of Kubes' rings
Came when he was a coach with the 49ers.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 24, 2009 7:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Give it a rest.
It aint going to happen.
You keep suggesting this but it’s just not gonna happen. Im sorry. Give it up.
by Jordann on Nov 24, 2009 9:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This was an shameful loss. Kubiak made bad decisions, especially putting Chris Brown in at RB for the game.
Chris Brown is FUCKING USELESS.
I love Kubiak, but if fails to get 10 wins this year, he needs to go.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Nov 24, 2009 10:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ummmm, no
Does anyone remember Houston football history? The three teams I would have a hard time accepting a head coach from: Cowgirls, Tits, Steelers. I respect Cowher, but I would have a very hard time rooting for the man. I know my father would completely disown the Texans if they hired him. Koobs has put the team in a good position several times this year, the players have to make plays though.
by Big T33 on Nov 24, 2009 10:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Koobs hasn't made it an easy decision
That screen inside the ten, deciding to just fall down with one play left before the FG. That’s playing to tie, not to win.
I’m not one of these assholes who claim that the only way to move forward is to clear out the front office (Dicky J). I think Smith has done a great job as GM and shouldn’t be touched. Kubiak has made some very questionable decisions this season and I don’t know if he should be rewarded for going 8-8 again.
by chrisjay84 on Nov 24, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That screen inside the ten.
Is the same screen that we’ve been using for the past couple of games. That’s the same screen that Slaton scored in against Indy. It was a good call. Bad execution by the players. They didn’t decide to fall down, he was trying to set the field goal and line the ball up. Eight seconds left. The pass couldve been tipped, the players couldve been held or the player might not make it out of bounds. EIGHT FUCKING SECONDS LEFT. There was no choice. It was either get more yards or kick the field goal to tie the game. He made the right decision. GEEEEEEEEEZ.
by Jordann on Nov 24, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing how all these right decisions
Add up to years of .500 records.
by chrisjay84 on Nov 24, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got an idea...
Biggest stage of the year…Monday night Football.
Critical game to our playoff hopes.
LET’S USE CHRIS BROWN AT RB ALL NIGHT!!!
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Nov 24, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now using chris brown
was a bad decision.
by Jordann on Nov 24, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Ryan Mo..Moats?
Never heard of him. Chris Brown is the future!"
by chrisjay84 on Nov 24, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It has always been a bad decision. He should have been cut after pre-season.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Nov 24, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Getting Cowher would force us to switch to a 3-4 probably, which would be a tough switch. Keep that in mind.
by nolander on Nov 24, 2009 12:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He's proven. He knows what he's doing.
IF Kubiak is fired it really should only be for Cowher.
by TexansDC on Nov 24, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't agree
Cowher is a good coach, but so what? There’s tons of coaches out there who are hungry and would work. Going after big names hasn’t always worked well – look at the Redskins.
Nobody had heard of Mike Tomlin until he got the job. He’s won as many Super Bowls as Cowher has – and not just because he inherited Cowher’s team.
I’m not saying Kubes should go, or that he even will go. He probably won’t. But if he does, it’s unlikely that Cowher will come here.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 24, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For years
Cowher coached a team that had a lot of turnover of players and assistant coaches and he still managed to have his team in the playoff hunt nearly every year. And, he did it with QB’s that were not prime-time players. The Texans have a core of players and a QB that can play prime-time and with the right coach could be in that playoff picture every year. I say that Kubiak is not that guy. He has let this team down too many times with obvious coaching errors. And, I am saying that he still makes them and hasn’t learned from his errors. Poor head coach judgment is what I would call it. He is a terrific coordinator, but the game management decisions are not his forte. I recommend that Bob McNair go after Cowher for the head coach position and cut Kubiak loose.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Nov 24, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowher? REALLY?!
Do you know how much that would fuck up our team?
a 4-3 defense to 3-4? With our personnel? really? You’re smarter than this.
by Jordann on Nov 24, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your current prosonal makeup should never make you coaching decisions
You don’t hire a new coach to tweek the system you hire them to fix it and put in a system that gives you a good chance of winning!
You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB
by Texans-Brocos on Nov 24, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's the problem with switching to a 3-4?
Linebacker is the strength of this team…..interior defensive line is not.
by TexansDC on Nov 24, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It is our strength
and a switch to a 3-4 negates our strength. We dont have a monster NT and Mario wouldn’t be succesful in that system.
by Jordann on Nov 24, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mario
Yes, we would miss Mario’s less than 3 tackles and less than .5 sacks per game in the 3-4.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Nov 24, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
…what if Mario were an OLB in the 3-4…just think about it….could he make it work?
by TexansDC on Nov 25, 2009 12:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see that, possibly
but wouldnt that be Connor Barwin’s spot to lose if the switch was made?
by TexasHoosier on Nov 25, 2009 4:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Could he make it work?
Sure, because he’s a freak of nature. Would it be his highest, best use? No. If you move him to OLB, in addition to asking him to work in space and without a hand on the ground, neither of which he’s done at this level, you remove your best run defending lineman from the line. You also then, I assume, use Amobi at DE, DelJuan (or whoever) at DT, and still have nothing even remotely close to an NT.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Nov 25, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We can trade for Travis Johnson after this season.
I heard he’s a good NT.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
There are beefy
NTs in the draft….Suh, Cody, etc etc. Plus there’s Free Agency. As for Barwin’s spot to lose…well, if the team goes 8-8 no one is safe. Except Andre.
by TexansDC on Nov 25, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There've been beefy NTs in the draft before
even when we ran a 3-4 and we never bothered to take them. Plus, there’s zero chance we are drafting high enough to get Cody.
As for Suh, why do people keep thinking he could be a 3-4 NT? He weighs less than Amobi, people.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Nov 28, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen Suh play though?
He very rarely is beat off the snap. He’s better than Cody, IMO.
by TexansDC on Nov 28, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he's begtter than cody.
Fuckin Seth Payne was better than Cody. BFD would be a better NT than Cody.
by Jordann on Nov 28, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Switching to a 3-4
when you have DeMeco Ryans and Mario Williams would be among the most idiotic things any team ever did. Ever. Every time someone suggests this as a possible “fix” (which seems to happen two to three times per year), I want to light my computer on fire.
Seriously, I’ll take it a step further: you show me someone who can look at the team we have right now and think that a base 3-4 would be a good idea and I’ll show you someone who understands less about defense than Mike Gundy.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Nov 24, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I never said it'd be a great idea...
….but if the whole argument against Bill Cowher is “3-4 D” then it’s a little weak.
Teams change defenses, look at GB. 12th in Points/gm, 3rd in Yards/gm in a switch year.
I’m not advocating the switch, but it shouldn’t be a knock on Cowher.
by TexansDC on Nov 24, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I wasn't blaming you.
It was more a response to the fact that this idea keeps creeping up.
And, I agree, if that’s your only argument against Cowher, it’s shite. If for no other reason than we are only assuming he would try to switch to a 3-4. He’s a smart guy and understands defense well; I think he’d stick with a base 4-3 and rotate into a variety of schemes (including 3-4) throughout the game. And, since I’ve been bitching about our lack of creativity on defense for years, I’d be fine with this.
But, no, wasn’t blaming you or accusing you there.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Nov 25, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For every Tomlin and Singletary...
…there’s Cables, Zorns, Manginis….
With a roster like this, it really would take a veteran guy. Wouldn’t it seem like a backwards move to have this roster and bring in a newbie?
by TexansDC on Nov 24, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If I was hiring a new head coach
It would be
Marty Schottenheimer, I know he gets alot of crap for not having take a team all the way but, I would take play off appearences every year over the nothing we have right now.
You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB
by Texans-Brocos on Nov 24, 2009 1:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Im currently undecided about Cohwer
but I now think that if we dont make the playoffs its time for a new Head Coach. Over our last 42 games we are 21-21, that is mediocrity.
Also, Kubiak has had plenty of time and its extremely hard to argue otherwise. There are only 8 coaches in the NFL that have been with their team longer than Kubes. They are: John Fox, Lovie Smith, Marvin Lewis, Jack Del Rio, Bill Belichick, Tom Coughlin, Andy Reid, and Jeff Fisher. Of those 8, 2 have won Super Bowls, 4 others have been to a Super Bowl, and the other two are in small markets, have been to the playoffs, and have winning records overall.
There are 3 coaches that have been with their teams as long as Kubes, Sean Peyton, Brad Childress, and Mike McCarthy. All have winning records and all have been to the playoffs.
Kubiak has had plenty of time and is clearly the worst coach that has been with his team for atleast 4 years. If we dont make the playoffs its time for a switch, otherwise McNair is being cheap and showing too much faith in the H-Town kid.
by TexasHoosier on Nov 24, 2009 6:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Compelling numbers. I didn't realize that Kubiak rates so poorly vs coaches of similar tenure
I have been a fan of Kubiak, but unless we finish this season with at least 9 wins, I think McNair should seriously consider going in another direction.
This may sound naive, but does Cowher automatically mean a switch to a 3-4? I would think that Cowher, even though he is a 3-4 guy, would be smart enough to use a scheme which best utilizes the strengths of the players on the roster. This team does not need to be blown up and completely rebuilt. We have a promising core of quality players, many of whom are young. We are tantalizingly close to being a playoff team. It’s very difficult to determine if the primary reason is coaching or failure of players to execute assignments properly (at least it is for me).
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Nov 25, 2009 1:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s very difficult to determine if the primary reason is coaching or failure of players to execute assignments properly (at least it is for me).
to me that’s the same thing…a coaching issue…
by turnip73 on Nov 25, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Part of me wants to agree with you
but Dunta had a sure INT fall through his hands late in the game. I can’t ignore how that may have changed the game had he simply held on to that ball. Kris Brown missing 3 key kicks in 2 games is also hard for me to pin on Kubiak.
Yes I disagree with some of the things Kubiak did, but if guys step up and make the plays they have been making, and should be expected to make, we could have won the last 2 games.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Nov 25, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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