The Officiating

by DaGoaT on Nov 24, 2009 7:46 AM CST Comment 36 comments

Not to make excuses for the loss, because I believe good teams overcome adversity and find ways to win, but CMON MAN. How piss poorly one sided was the game by the officials? It was like Bud Adams took another 250 grand and gave it to the refs. Numerous times the dirty ass tack players were starting fights, throwing punches, and they didnt get flagged a single time. They held Slaton down at the end of the 2nd quarter for 5 fucking seconds while the ref just stood there with his thumb up his ass waiting for the clock to expire. Even the game commentators mentioned it. What about the phantom horsecollar flag on the last series of the game? It was total horseshit and wasnt even close. Yet they had no problem calling out Smith for the elbow throw, or the bullshit roughing call on Cushing. They were so busy calling double penalties on the Texans multiple times they competely ignored several holding plays by the tack linemen. Im not expecting every call to be favorable, but come on how about a little equality on what you are calling on one team and not the other.

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I do have to agree with the Slaton Call

There is no reason the Refs did not call a time out to clean that up. In the middle of a hurry up offense, and they let that kind of stuff slide is not good.

by Silentjay on Nov 24, 2009 7:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

the titans should have been flagged for a defensive delay of game for holding down Slaton. Its complete bullshit they just stood there and did nothing.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 24, 2009 8:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I felt the same way and i'm usually not one to pick on officiating.

It wasn’t just that the Texans were on the wrong end of some iffy calls, and they were iffy at best. Cushing’s “late hit” was clearly simply follow through of pushing young out of bounds, Young just happened to step out a split second before Cushing laid hands on him. Like the announcers said, if you went by the rulebook to the letter then technically it was a late hit because Young was out of bounds, but that’s a play that’s overlooked 95% of the time in that situation, you can’t expect a 250 lb guy to stop on a dime to avoid his own momentum hitting a player who just stepped out less than 1 second before contact, nor can you expect him to watch Young’s toes so that he knows the exact second that he steps out. The horsecollar never happened, anyone not legally blind could see that.

The kicker was at the same time they were ticky tacking the Texans, the Titans center got away with 2 consecutive clippings and a late hit of his own in two plays and on one of those two plays Smith got called for a personal foul for retaliating to an illegal block that was never called. They laid on top of Slaton to eat time off the clock late in the 2nd quarter, and on one of the last plays of the game their crappy CB literally grabbed our recievers feet after the play was called dead and drug him 3-4 yards down field.., and no flag.

I get that some refs call games tighter than others, but you have to call it the same for both team.

by Bryan72076 on Nov 24, 2009 8:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

We did get lucky once

Bulman (or was it Zgonina?) clearly stuck his leg out and tripped VY up a bit, forcing an incomplete 3rd down pass. Would’ve been a first down if called correctly. That said, more iffy calls went against us than against the Titans, but nothing cost us the game. The BS horsecollar penalty hurt, but wasn’t the reason we lost.

On a side note: we need another kicker. I think what we’re seeing with Kris Brown is what we saw with Brad Lidge. He’s been a little off all season, then blew a huge opportunity last week, and another this week. I have to think it’s all mental now. He’s been nails for a long time, but isn’t right in the head this season.

by BigTexBD on Nov 24, 2009 8:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think differently

The Titans scored on at least 2 possessions as a result of bad calls and if that last unsportsmanlike penalty was called as it should have been it would have been more like a 30 yard field goal and we may have even taken a last stab at the endzone rather than position for the long FG. I know it’s PC or somehow “noble” to say the game was one and lost by the players, but the officiating was so horrid in such a close game how is it possible that those bad calls didn’t impact the outcome of the game?

by Bryan72076 on Nov 24, 2009 8:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That should be won not "one"

Forgive me, it’s still early

by Bryan72076 on Nov 24, 2009 8:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Heck

I even remember Gruden saying something like “wow he’s dragging him around for no reason at all”, yet it didn’t stand out to the officials as unnecessary.

by Bryan72076 on Nov 24, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm having trouble remembering exactly....

I finished the game well after 2 last night, and woke up before 8, so I’m having trouble remembering some things…

Did the titans score because of those iffy calls? Or did they just occur as they were driving? It’s hard to say bad calls directly caused our opponent to score. It might make it easier, but ultimately its up to our D to stop 80 yd scoring drives. Plus, even if we did have a 30-yarder at the end, it would just be a more embarassing shank.

Also, just looked over the last game thread and realized the Lidge comparison had already been brought up. Good to see other people feeling the same way.

by BigTexBD on Nov 24, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Considering most of the missed or bad calls

Were made or not made on plays that were or would have been stopped for little gain to negative yards in the case of penalties being overlooked, i think it’s safe to say the Titans scored more points because of those blown calls than they would have if the game were called correctly. And in a game that was lost on the last play of the game, even if they only scored 3 less points it would have been an entirely different scenerio. Our defense didn’t give up any 80 yard drive last night that didn’t have a blown call in the Titan’s favor, so yea it’s up to the defense, but is it really fair to play with a handicap placed on your team by the refs? The point is we shouldn’t have to overcome terrible officiating to win games, in any game you watch you should be able to go back and say “the refs hand no real impact in this game”, they’re there to maintain order and ensure rules are followed, giving preferential treatment to one team or players is unacceptable whether they’re for or against the Texans. In last nights game there were clearly two completely different standards for the two teams, and i’m sorry but that’s just B.S.

If you’re going to let certain penalties go and “let them play”, then do so consistently for both teams. If you’re going to get picky and call touch fouls as if it were a basketball game (or in the case of the horsecollar, because it “looked like it could have possibly been a penalty at the time”), then do so consistently for both teams. I don’t think that’s too much to ask of officials, and they clearly didn’t live up to those expectations last night. In no way whatsoever should Cushing get called for a late hit for simply pushing Young out of bounds a split second after he stepped out while the Titans Center Pushing Okoye to the ground as he was trying to get up and their CB dragging our downed reciever across the field by his feet after the play was whistled dead is no foul. In a game that was decided on the last play of the game, and we can all agree there were at least half a dozen calls that should have went the other way, of course the officiating played a role in the outcome of the game.

by Bryan72076 on Nov 24, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

And yea

If that late hit was called on their center wosname, it would have been a 2nd and 22 or something along those lines, I don’t see them converting there had that one call been made correctly.

by Bryan72076 on Nov 24, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And not to beat a dead horse

But if they called 1/4 of the holds against Mario there’s a good chance the Titans wouldn’t have scored at all.

by Bryan72076 on Nov 24, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I just can't help myself

There were plays where their linemen got two fists full of Williams’ jersey and sank their feet down like an anchor to slow him down and no flag… i’m sorry but if you watched this game and wasn’t all “wtf!” at the officiating all night, I think we were watching two seperate games.

by Bryan72076 on Nov 24, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I completely disagree here. From my point of view it looked like he was falling down and VY tried to run over him instead of around him. The leg was out because he was upended falling down. It didnt look like he stuck his leg out at all.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 24, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Bad Officiating or not.

We just didn’t come up big when we needed to.

No points scored off of that fumble? Come on. I think this is the first game that we didn’t commit any turnovers. That fumble shouldve turned into points. Poor execution on our part.

by Jordann on Nov 24, 2009 9:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

ya like I eluted to in my first sentence, I dont see it as an excuse for losing, more as a rant directed at the officials for doing a terrible job.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 24, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I understand.

We just couldn’t come up big when we needed to.

And what the fuck was Chris Brown doing? Why was he even playing?

by Jordann on Nov 24, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ya I was yelling all game about that. I mean Moats didnt get a single snap. What the hell is that? Slaton on the sidelines and Moats doesnt even play. What the hell is going on?

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 24, 2009 9:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

If you score one more touchdown...

…none of that shit matters.

Texans FAILED to get it done.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related

by TexansForever on Nov 24, 2009 9:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Bad is right

And the high 5 after the game that ref should loose his job, that is a disgrace
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You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB

by Texans-Brocos on Nov 24, 2009 10:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Who high fived the refs?

by Jordann on Nov 24, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Vince Young

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related

by TexansForever on Nov 24, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

by Jordann on Nov 24, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

you got to be shitting me

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Nov 24, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Check the first link.

http://www.sportsradio610.com/Mark-VanderBlog/4312415

by chrisjay84 on Nov 24, 2009 10:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

So uh should that asshole get fired or what.

by nolander on Nov 24, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

also i don’t think anyone mentioned mwae’s unnecessary roughness that wasn’t flagged. he kept pushing a texan well beyond the play and all the refs did was pull him away.

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Nov 24, 2009 11:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Or Finnegan dragging Anderson off the ball by his feet after the whistle.

Should’ve been 15 yards and a first, but he wasn’t wearing Battle Red so no call.

by chrisjay84 on Nov 24, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

You guys are pitiful

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by T--Rac's Posse on Nov 24, 2009 12:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

as pitiful as McNair and his girlfriend?

by Jordann on Nov 24, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

T--Rac

U kno u were probably sayin tha same shit when we beat yall earlier this year. But it’s ok, have your fun now cuz when we sweep tha shit outta yall next season, yall gonna b about ready 2 commit suicide. But until then, FUCK THA TITANS! FUCK “FOREHEAD” YOUNG, THAT REDNECK BUD ADAMS, AND THAT MILLI VANILLI WANNABE CHRIS JOHNSON! YOU TRASH-TALKIN PIECES OF SHIT CAN ALL GO STR8 2 HELL!!!!!!!!!!

by HTexans4EVA on Nov 24, 2009 2:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs