SITE NEWS: Fighting Against The Tipping Point
by Tim on Nov 24, 2009 8:05 PM CST
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Over the past few weeks, with your Houston Texans playing (and losing in heartbreaking fashion to) the Colts and Titans, BRB has gotten a bit intense at times, generally in the form of regular users interacting with fans of the aforementioned two teams. Although the chief byproduct of that mix has been insightful football discussion and debate, there have been a few instances where things have been written in the Comments that members and/or visitors have found offensive. Some offended individuals have expressed incredulity that the editors and authors here have not censored, removed, deleted, and/or disciplined the authors of the offensive comments.
The policy on BRB has always been that this is a site where Texans fans (and fans of other teams) can exchange thoughts, directly, tangentially, or otherwise, related to the Texans. Sometimes, the thoughts expressed here are inflammatory, in poor taste, unfunny, ignorant, cruel, etc. Speaking from personal experience, sometimes I'll read a comment and cringe. Sometimes, I just flat out disagree with something that's written. That's going to happen, and I understand that. In my opinion, that's not grounds for censorship.
Unfortunately, I think we're getting dangerously close to the tipping point in all of this. Leading up to and in the heat of last night's loss, comments were posted that left "poor taste" in the dust. I'm not going to link to them, and I'm not going to discuss them outside the context of this post. The people who wrote them know what they wrote. For example...when people are threatening physical harm to one another, I have to step in and ask everyone to take a step back. This is a blog about a football team, for crying out loud. It's not life and death, no matter how angry or passionate we get about the subject matter or the result of a game.
Speaking of anger...while this site is by and for fans of the Houston Texans, fans of other teams are always welcome. That necessarily means that we're going to attract the occasional trash-talking fan from an opposing team. Please don't let it get to you. It's par for the course, and we're going to be consistent in how we handle everyone. In other words, I'm not going to be a hypocrite; if regular users enjoy being able to speak our minds, we have to respect the ability of visitors to speak their minds, even if we don't like what they have to say. Don't dish it out if you can't take it. The one thing that's guaranteed to draw scrutiny from me is personal attacks; I've always asked that disagreements focus on taking issue with what was said instead of the person saying it. Name-calling doesn't add anything to the discussion.
I really, really hate that I had to spend time writing this post, but I felt like something had to be said before things got completely out of hand. Thanks to all in advance for their consideration.
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That's all fine and dandy, Tim,
but there are some things that just need to be censored. For example the Steve McNair comment. Why do you think SB Nation gives us the ability to censor content? It would be a much better blog with at least a little bit of censorship.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Nov 24, 2009 8:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I fervently disagree
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
by bigfatdrunk on Nov 24, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Won't somebody please think of the children, etc. etc.
Tim, I like the way you run this site.
Smash: You’re going to have to accept that if you’re viewing a Texans blog, there are going to be STRONG anti-BESF feelings here. Some of them will be tasteless. In fact, most of them will.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Nov 24, 2009 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's all fine and dandy, smashville
but there are some people who just need to lighten up. I would agree that it is in poor taste to use Steve McNair’s death as a platform for trash talking (I am a Steve McNair fan), but aside from that and personal threats its all just internet talk. Some of it will be in poor taste. Just shrug it off and deal with it. And don’t tell Tim how to run the site.
An adult does what Tim did – reminded everybody to be nice, or at least not cross the line. A reactionary baby like BigBlueShoe goes to another site and calls for censorship. Which camp do yo think you fall into here?
by WhiskeyR on Nov 24, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks For The Input, Smashville
While I appreciate your position, I respectfully disagree. I think the work and comments of the plethora of contributors here speaks for itself. Although I do regret that the occasional remark might turn people off to the site entirely, I trust that the majority of readers will balance the positives of BRB against the perceived negatives and make an informed decision as to whether it’s worth reading the rest of the material here. If a reader decides that one comment, or a handful of comments, makes this community a place he does not want to frequent, that’s his choice, and I respect that.
Best of luck to you guys for the rest of the season.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Nov 24, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thought this would be a good time to create an account on here,
We have to be like the manatees that write for family guy, either everything is ok or nothing is.
by AFTexan on Nov 25, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome aboard.
Southpark reference. Yep. You’ll fit right in.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The country would be a much better country with just a little Naziism.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
by CFHTim on Nov 25, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yea and august west doesnt do anything?
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Nov 26, 2009 2:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So when are you guys gonna actually talk about the game?
Cause geez, when I beat BRB to writing something about last weeks game, that is pretty sad.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Nov 24, 2009 8:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I Know, I Know...
I suck. Last night was obviously a late one, and I was swamped today. I promise I’ll have my take on the game up tomorrow.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Nov 24, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would we?
Is there any point in talking about the game?
Do we even have a shot at a wild card now or are we two loses down the slippery slope to another disappointing season?
PS. Love the way you look after the site Tim. I don’t always agree with what is written or how it is written, but I’m a big boy, I don’t need to agree with everyone else and I can handle reading a bad joke.
by distant_texans_fan on Nov 24, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The answer to your second question
May be worth discussion, you know.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Nov 24, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well this post prompted a good time to join this blog
I’m a Dolphins fan as you can tell and although we don’t play each other quite yet, I’ll still be stopping in and out to read about what is going on with your team, etc. I have no desire to be disrespectful and I hope no one else has that desire either. It hurts me to know that our team has never beaten your team, but I’m torn finding myself cheering for your team at times. Matt Schaub was my fantasy football quarterback and I was quite pleased with him but I decided to trade him for one of my all time favorite football fans, Brett Favre. I happened to be cheering for you guys last night, due to my extreme dislike for the Titans although I needed you to lose for the sake of my team. I wish your team the best of luck the rest of the season up until you play my team and then luck again after.
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 24, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome, DIB
Look forward to reading more from you in the very near future. Hopefully, the game between our respective squads in Week 16 has some playoff implications at stake.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Nov 24, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you and I'm hoping for the same thing. I can't stand when games are meaningless
and I hope that our game doesn’t happen to be that type of game.
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 24, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey...
What’s been happening DIB? Long time, no see.
Ooh, you’re going to love it over here. It’s like a city full of drunken, urine-soaked bums fist fighting and calling each other’s dead mothers whores. Be sure and not look them directly in the eye, though, or they may expose themselves to you and whatever poor passersby who may be within sight, all while raving about Freedom of Speech and Andre Johnson…
It’s anarchy, like the comments section at NFL.com.
No! It’s like Lord of the Flies with less adult supervision!
It’s beautiful…
by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 24, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
are you alive? Its been forever.
It’s anarchy, like the comments section at NFL.com.
and I can handle it over here…just not the NFL.com comments. Lord of the Flies was an awful book but I get the reference and am slightly scared just like when your lead blogger switched spots with MaPatsFan, that was LOTF-esque.
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 24, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What have we ever done to the Dolphins?
Seriously, I know why the Titans are the most-hated team in the division by the fans of every other team in our division (and the reasons are different for all 3 teams), but what have they done to cause the ire of Dolphins fans?
And it’s not just you, I’ve seen a few other Dolphins fans around mention not liking the Titans. I think it’s weird, because I like the Dolphins.
I’m genuinely curious, not trying to start an argument or anything. Would you mind elaborating?
by hartley on Nov 24, 2009 10:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't like them becasue my ex-boyfriend is a Titans fan lol (and yes I'm a girl)
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 24, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're a chick?
This explains a lot. I thought all this time you were just some kind of highly-intelligent man with an ungodly amount of tolerance for idiocy. The girl-thing is definitely a much simpler explanation.
by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 25, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol well I'm glad it explains it for you.
ungodly amount of tolerance for idiocy.
…but I still only have so much tolerance..:)
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we trade kickers?
Is Olinda Mare still kickin for the fins?
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol nope not even close
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Beat Indy
Take care of bi nizzzzz against the jags
then we got sea and stl
by AllenOU on Nov 24, 2009 9:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!
Good one, choker! Er…I mean joker.
Oh, no I didn’t.
by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 24, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You Are, How You Say...
Banned?
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Nov 24, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Oh snap, you're back!
I can’t wait for the pre-game talk. Should be a lot of new material for you colt fans!
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I see you guys kicked it up a notch last week against those Tits fans. I’m surprised you stopped with defiling the memory of Steve McNair when you could have driven over to Mississippi, dug up his corpse and slapped it in the face with David Carr’s mittens.
Really, though, that shit was low, even for you sub-human knuckle-draggers. I’m surprised there’s not a couple dozen pick-up truck loads of hillbillies on their way to Texas with torches and pitchforks ready to massacre them some shit-talking internet tough guys. It’s a good thing this interwebs stuff is anonymous, huh?
Oh, and as a gift to you guys to show there’s no hard feelings for kicking your ass non-stop since the moment of your inception, we got your kicker a little somethin’ somethin’…
Seems like he could use the practice. ;)
by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 25, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I laughed
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Nov 25, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Almost got me fired for laughing too hard.
Rec’d. I loved your opening line too. Now the tits fans are gonna be after you.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've decided.
Im gonna save up for one of these and send it to Kris Brown’s residence. Who’s down to put in some money for this?
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tim. love the site. don't change a thing...
i hafta admit, sometimes i see stuff on here, that i know would get ya banned on other sections of this community…but i believe that saying what’s on your mind is a durga given right, even if i don’t agree with some of the things i read here.
by turnip73 on Nov 24, 2009 9:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree that we can go a little overboard
But I think a friendly reminder like this is much better than censorship. We should remember the rules of polite society. But free speech is just as important.
You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB
by Texans-Brocos on Nov 24, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agree and disagree, Tim.
Generally I find a level of wit and humor in the content over here at BRB that I find refreshing (heck, I even think the BE-SF thing is funny).
But there has to be some kind of standard when things get out of hand, or SBNation is no better than the comments sections of the local newspaper’s website. And those comments sections are so bad that I have stopped reading the online version of the paper. (I’m just assuming here that chron.com is as bad as tennessean.com, I don’t know for sure. Your mileage may vary.)
I don’t want to stop reading your blog, but for me, “jokes” about a franchise hero who was murdered on a national holiday are beyond the pale. Think about how you would feel if Matt Schaub got shot and killed in cold blood tomorrow. That actually happened to Steve McNair. Less than 5 months ago. For many Tennessee natives, he was the face of the franchise and the reason we became fans of the team. For some of us who were in our teens when the team came to town, he was our last childhood idol.
I’m not going to be ready to “just lighten up” about it. Not for a long while yet.
by hartley on Nov 24, 2009 11:16 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
So what's your point?
Should we ban him? Delete the post? Take up a collection for therapy? Honestly, what is your point?
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
by bigfatdrunk on Nov 25, 2009 12:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
delete the post
"I finished the game. In my mind, if I finished the game, I can play next week." - Steve McNair RIP
by Pinoy Titan on Nov 25, 2009 8:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
by bigfatdrunk on Nov 25, 2009 8:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's inflammatory and in poor taste
why do you think a lot titans fan came over here and rub salt on your wounds after your lost. and then some guy over here threatened to slit one MCMers throat. how low can you go?
"I finished the game. In my mind, if I finished the game, I can play next week." - Steve McNair RIP
by Pinoy Titan on Nov 25, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Selective Reading.........
That’s what you’re doing there buddy. The guy explained what happened(its plausible but who am I to question him so im just gonna believe what he said) He even apologized in behalf of his drunken gf.
Define inflammatory, in your own words. Not the dictionary. Dont go googling it. Define it.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Inflammatory and poor taste?
Very subjective, isn’t it?
I’m not going to address the other thing you mention, because, as part of this conversation, it’s not the point. I agree that this comment crossed the line, but it also appears there was an apology involved. I’m not sure what else you’d want. Retribution of some sort?
However, you essentially want us to delete a post (the original comment) with which you don’t agree? Kind of a weak argument, don’t you think? It wasn’t threatening, a personal attack, or anything I’d consider to be off-limits.
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
by bigfatdrunk on Nov 25, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So I guess you thought it was too soon for this?
Just checking…b/c I need to decorate my front yard for xmas this weekend.
Yes...as a matter of fact, that IS a pic of Steve McNair & Sahel Kazemi parasailing. Suck it, Titans fans.
by -Jay on Nov 25, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
just fuckin' sad.
Last comment I make on this site, not that it matters.
Music City Miracles blogger and official Jon Bovi tour manager.
by August West on Nov 25, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
piss off august, don't come back.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Nov 26, 2009 2:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck you
and guess what? That’s not getting censored so I can say what I want…right?
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Nov 25, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And let's get one thing straight about your idol...
Steve McNair’s murder was NOT some tragic, random act of violence. I won’t go as far as saying that he deserved what he got. But he damn sure put himself AND HIS FAMILY in an awfully dangerous position. He had 2 mistresses that we know of, and god knows how many others throughout the years. Nobody deserves to be shot in the face…but if you’re going to run around fucking a bunch of young girls who know you’re married, you’re bound to eventually run across a crazy one who will do harm to you or your family. The only silver lining here is that she shot the dude responsible for the situation, and didn’t take out her frustration on his wife or kids. So maybe TItans fans can cool it with the idol worship and indignation.
Yes...as a matter of fact, that IS a pic of Steve McNair & Sahel Kazemi parasailing. Suck it, Titans fans.
by -Jay on Nov 25, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
NOBODY SAID HE WAS PERFECT
If you’re seriously contending that infidelity means you can’t respect some one enough to be even slightly respectful when they’re murdered in their sleep, then go the fuck home and burn every item of literature, music, movie, sports-worship or political paraphernalia you own. Everyone you’ve ever met or respected has fucked up badly somewhere down the line, that doesn’t mean it isn’t a tragedy when they’re cut down at a young age. He didn’t kill any one. He didn’t take away anyone’s life, liberty or pursuit of happiness.
Nobody here is justifying what he did, but we’re not letting it wash away the impact he had on the community or our favorite franchise either. That’s not idol worship it’s respect. Learn the difference you moralist cunt.
I’ll show you guys some respect when you display some.
And lets get one thing straight: You know why nobody has any dirt on Texans players? Because nobody gives a FUCK about a bunch of chronic basement dwellers.
(also, let me crack one last egg of knowledge on ya: using the word ‘but’ as conjunction in a sentence negates everything that came before it. I’m not saying this as a grammar lesson, it’s just a dead give away that what you said was lip service and disingenuous because you knew you sound like an asshole.)
Music City Miracles blogger and official Jon Bovi tour manager.
by August West on Nov 25, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
/drops mike, gives Bud's double barrel salute
Music City Miracles blogger and official Jon Bovi tour manager.
by August West on Nov 25, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
You’re not supposed to feed the trolls, Aug.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Nov 25, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There ya go.
Something inappropriate was said about your beloved franchise hero, and you’ve said something inappropriate, yet untrue about our players. Now can you chill out and have a laugh or maybe three. Why are you letting it anger you so much? If you’re saying he’s not perfect and he’s done all those things, why do you expect for people not to talk about him in a bad light? Of course nobody’s perfect, thats why everybody receives criticism. You respect Steve McNair, we get it. But some of us, we dont. Our hatred lies so deep for your beloved franchise that no subject is forbidden. And for that I am sorry.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So.....
Should I delete this post? Would you call it inappropriate? Pinoy? Hartley?
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
by bigfatdrunk on Nov 25, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BANNED!
for even giving them a choice.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
GUH!
Got me with your legal mumbo jumbo.
I’m just going to end with this:
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” – Abraham Lincoln
Make your own judgment.
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
by bigfatdrunk on Nov 25, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"our favorite franchise "
You are a tool, Mr. West! Speaking like a disingenuous moralist, you come to this site and speak of your “horror” that Steve McNair was not/is not held in the same idol worshipped light as you hold him. Then you speak ill of our franchise and call them “a bunch of chronic basement dwellers”. Did you not see the former mailing address from your current inhabitants of LP (Loser’s Paradise) Field?
Look Mr. Asshat, I live in this community that you speak of and there is not one shred of what he gave to your franchise (other then being locked out when he returned from an injury). Oh, that’s right. y’all call that respect…
Sure, it’s sad that he was killed! Lot’s of people die each day and are younger then Mr. McNair that make you shake your head but, he was a grown man, in a high profile life, respected member of this community, whose only commitment to Nashville was a restaurant, a few appearances at local events, and a young psychopath bedmate!
He died just one death, his family is living with his choices. I morn any senseless death but, also know that you put your hand in a fire, it’ll probably get burned.
BTW, the “Bud Salute” is reserved for you classless morons and this community.
by Xetuoh on Nov 25, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well done.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
by CFHTim on Nov 25, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing more embarrassing that someone posted this on an SB Nation website
Is that 4 people recced it.
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
by Colts Homer on Nov 25, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Response not directed to you Colts Homer.
But if you can’t take it, dont dish it out. And don’t be surprised when somebody takes it to the extremes.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially when it's side-splittingly high-larious!
You just can’t pass opportunities like that up!
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Nov 25, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
are we the only ones that find it hilarious beefy?
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I fell off my chair laughing.
thank god everyone else at work is off – gotta love the day before Turkey day. I think the one thing that a lot of the other SB Nation sites have in common is they have a limited sense of humor, folks self censor and can’t handle how up front folks are here.
And I think secretly they love it (thank you sir may I have another). I give you August West – he said thirty comments ago that this was his last comment. We are the original Tomacco.
by Farmer Fran on Nov 25, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Its the Internet
Someone said earlier, you gotta expect it to be like Family Guy. Nothing is off limits. Good post.
by WhiskeyR on Nov 25, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I rec'd as well.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
by CFHTim on Nov 25, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not dishing anything out
I came here to read about the Texans, but all I’ve seen is making jokes about a tragic death.
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
by Colts Homer on Nov 25, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I said it on the top.
It wasn’t directed at you. I just posted it over there because it can be seen better. It wasn’t pointed to you at all dude. I apologize for any confusion
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
un - friggin - believable
where is all this bullshit angst and phoney indignation coming from. Who exactly do you think you are kidding?
by Farmer Fran on Nov 25, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you liked that...
You’re going to love this…http://www.battleredblog.com/2009/11/18/1163098/ask-music-city-miracles#25904131.
The wellspring from which all this intelligent discussion flows…
by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 25, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm only 319 comments to read through..
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
phew...I finished finally.
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
was the ending that did it.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
by CFHTim on Nov 25, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol yeah, I wish I had started at the bottom but the "z" key doesn't do it like that
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
I thought the link would have sent you to the exact comment on the page where it all started…
by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 25, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it sent me to the post in general. I read them all for the most part though.
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Weird...
When I click on the link it takes me right to the comment in question. Damn internets! You have failed me for the last time!
by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 25, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
must be my computer...I shall try again
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this time it worked and I thought the question was pretty funny
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Boo...
-10 internets for laughing at dead people
by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 25, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on, it was a funny comment.
Don't question my fandominium.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Thank You !
Was Hilarious.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
by CFHTim on Nov 25, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
can I have +10 so I can have my points back lol?
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+20
i’ll give you back your ten plus another ten!
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol thank you
Don't question my fandominium.
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Nicky forever.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
see!
we’re not the only ones who find it funny!
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it was just a joke
Don't question my fandominium.
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Nicky forever.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats why I don't get why they were offended
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
Nicky forever.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 25, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tell me about it.
I was wondering the same. Some people just can’t take a good joke when it’s to their expense or their hero’s expense for that matter.
by Jordann on Nov 26, 2009 1:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, a sad definition of a hero at that
Don't question my fandominium.
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Nicky forever.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Nov 26, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fair enough
Idolatry really puts a face on it though, and for some (a lot) of Texans fans, he’s just going to be another guy who was with the enemy. While it’s sort of heartless when you really buckle down and get super serious about things, pretty much anything that most people joke about is.
I dunno, if Matt Schaub got murdered tomorrow it’d be a sad day for the franchise certainly, and a reminder of how fleeting life is. But I don’t think it’d have much of an impact on me as a person. I would probably think “that’s noooot right!” about jokes about his death for awhile, but I mean, it wouldn’t actively make me feel angry or anything. People are assholes, for the most part. Even moreso on a medium where you can maintain and conduct yourself as relatively anonymous.
Which is sort of a long way of saying “I understand where you’re coming from, but in the long run it’s probably not worth getting bent out of shape over.”
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Nov 25, 2009 12:22 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
look i see both your point and hartley's but got to say he put it well
i think there should be some standard and i think there is and Tim determains that. but i think at times we cross that line and people need to be warned in one manner or another and i think joking about a players death especially one so recent does cross some line if not for you (because your a rival fan) it does for many. i personaly couldn’t do it as a person who wouldn’t want it done of me but thats for you each to decide. but i dont think the one comment is the point of all of this talk on this thread
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by TheAngelsColts on Nov 25, 2009 12:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In life, everything is fair game.
I love my freedom to talk as much crap as I want and be as big of an asshole I want to be so I dont abuse it. That comment wasn’t even close to his A+ material.
But I do see what you’re saying. There’s always two sides and im not the kind of person who stick to my side and not take the other side in consideration.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hi jordann.
yea i didn’t see the comments but do you really think you should be able to just go around saying anything i mean anything you want on here? there is warnings you can give for certain things it doesn’t have to be banning everyone or anything. at least those who have gotten out of hand with the majority of there comments not just one or two and then backed off. i just think there are guidlines for a reason on here in order to try and keep things civil to some extent and make a sight injoyable without all the personal attacks that i have heard were going on to prompt this post.
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 25, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The personal attacks
were because of a guys drunk gf. She started threatening some titans fan. I guess when the guy realized what his girl was doing, he aplogized on his behalf. I think those comments should be deleted but not the McNair comment. The McNair commentis the one that im talking about.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
on the giving a warning.....
I think this post serves as the right warning. No banning needed. We’re all adults here, if its brought to your attention, then you should do something about it and I know that the people here will step up and do so.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree i think this post does serve as that and like how tim did it
and this if they dont change the way they said it or what then thats on them.yes so i would say at least get rid of those comments then. that doesn’t mean you have to bann anyone in anyway. i didn’t see your McNair comments so i cant say if they should or not but ill take you word. also im guessing it was just a one or two comment thing by you?
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 25, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a comment by somebody else.
and I rec’d it and said i find it funny.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ok wasn't sure if you were saying you said it. but i dont find it funny
but if you do and i saw your apoligy then thats you thing. also there is a dif. between finding something someone says in the way they say it funny and finding the person diying funny sorta of thing.
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 25, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah dying = not funny
the similarities and how it was presented= hilarious
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ok so we agree there.
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 25, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sir yessir.
we need to establish an agreement about something because we both know when that pre-game post for this sundays game comes out, we wont be agreeing on much lol
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
haha forsure and if you did know something we say is true you
will just not say a thing so there is no agreement lol. na should be a good game though. must go no ask the fan this week for obvious reasons (played each other just a few weeks ago) be around later possibly
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 25, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was funny.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
by CFHTim on Nov 25, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with a line
It’s a lot like the definition of pornography. Where do you set it, what gets past it, what doesn’t? Then once you set it, you’ll have people offended by the things that didn’t make the line complaining about that, until suddenly you can’t even say “fuck” in a game thread when you are mad. It’s a huge waste of effort and time creating an elaborate set of rules for a situation that just doesn’t come up very often. It’d be one thing if Hartley were black and he was getting n-bombs thrown at him every time he showed up, but tasteless comments about someone who died really just deserve chastising rather than deletion in my view.
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by riversmccown on Nov 25, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
My hero growing up was Cesar Cedeno. He had an issue with the whole “living wives” thing. Allegedly. Idolatry can backfire just a little.
McNair was cheating on his wife with a woman half his age. As somebody who’s been married 15 years, he just doesn’t elicit much pity from me.
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
by bigfatdrunk on Nov 25, 2009 8:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry still a human being to me so i think it is just as bad as if he had done nothing wrong
i dont think you judge a persons death and its being ok or something on there sins. (not saying you do just saying a point)
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 25, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
people got all antsy in their pantsy
because they see McNair as their franchise hero. But those same people have laughed at something similar to that comment. The only difference was, It wasn’t in the expense of their “Franchise Hero”.
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
idk i personally
just thing it gets overboard fast when joking or making fun of a dead person and especially throwing it in that teams fans in this case. im not saying that they were in the right.
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Nov 25, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't pity him for stepping out
but that in now way means he deserved to be murdered in his sleep. That’s the really shit part of it: he never got the chance to learn a lesson or make amends.
Many worse people have made much worse mistakes, but it’s not the last thing you remember them for because they had a chance to change and make it up to the people they hurt. Steve wasn’t so lucky.
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by August West on Nov 25, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Steve had
a life time of “chances” to make amends. If his name was “Barney”, would you care or give a shit? Honestly, he was another man who got caught up in a lifestyle and paid the price for it. How many here have made a reference to the “joke” “Besides the blood Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?” kind of gallow humour? I kind of think he (Mr. Lincoln) deserves more reverence then Steve McNair.
If you sit around and smell an obonxious odor, hopefully you move to another side of the room. If not, the smell might be from your own lip movement…
by Xetuoh on Nov 25, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
a life lesson.
karma teaches us, that no matter what one has done in this life, it is not for us to decide. they must work through those issues within their OWN lifetime (or lifetimes, if you believe in reincarnation.) NO man has the right to take another life. it is not our decision. before i was banned from MCM, i wrote a long piece about mcnair, and how i had met him back in college. i personally don’t agree with personal attacks, but that’s the beauty of america, anyone can say how they feel, regardless if i agree or not.
Michael: It is going to up in Tahoe a couple more days. Maybe you could take a date?
Lucille: How am I supposed to find someone willing to go into that musty old claptrap?
Michael: The cabin... yes! That would be difficult, too.
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by chrisd21 on Nov 25, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
It doesn’t mean he should be killed, by any means.
But throughout this entire thing, I haven’t been able to forget about Mechelle.
McNair was a role model and all, but it was Mechelle who was the parent and taking care of the kids. That’s a tough job as I well know.
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
by bigfatdrunk on Nov 25, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds you of
Mrs. Lincoln/Roosevelt/Kennedy (lesser extent)? Someimes the “hero” isn’t the one doing the heavy lifting…(sadly, she (Mechelle) might be villified for wanting what’s best for the family!).
by Xetuoh on Nov 25, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
It’s regrettable that he acted that way, but ultimately lots of people do that and aren’t scrutinized for it when their time comes.
I don’t think it makes it any “more” right that his death should be looked down upon or swept under the rug because he did some (in my mind) immoral things. It was a ruthless and heartless killing of someone who shouldn’t have gone yet.
That also doesn’t mean he should beyond being made fun of. How many dead Steve McNairs does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
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by riversmccown on Nov 25, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Married for 15 years, huh?
Now that did elicit some from pity from me.
Your poor, poor wife…
by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 25, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heh
My friends call her: “Poor Ms. bfd.” It’s true. Just sub the name for her real name.
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
by bigfatdrunk on Nov 25, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How much does she want to put a lead nugget in your dome???
The woman’s GOTTA have a price.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Nov 25, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Death threats...
Will result in immediate BANNING from all of SB Nation sites and the immediate notification of your mother. Could you yell upstairs and get her for me?
-BBS
by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 25, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You forgot
Shaking his rattle violently.
by Xetuoh on Nov 25, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn you
Serious LOL moment. And you made me use LOL.
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
by bigfatdrunk on Nov 25, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I rec'd it
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 26, 2009 2:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What does it happening on a national holiday have to do with anything?
by nolander on Nov 25, 2009 1:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Steve McNair's death is a national holiday?
Say wha?
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same thing.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Nov 25, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately...
You can’t make everybody be reasonable and have a sense of what crosses the line. I enjoy the blog and the discussions/arguments that occur on here; I even learn something every once in a while. Keep up the good work Tim…can’t wait to see your write up, can’t even imgagine attempting to write something rational after last night.
by Texans 'Til I Die on Nov 25, 2009 3:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
walk the line
kudos for saying what needed to be said but allowing all to continue to be. You run a great site, period, end of discussion.
I have been a Steelers fan since I was a kid but have lived in Houston better than a couple decades now – wouldn’t want live anywhere else, been to Oilers games, hell even a gamblers game. And I frequent and participate on this site far more the BTSC for the simple reason that this site has it all, lots of good football discussion, people who give a shit about their team without being total homers, and above all a lot of great humor.
So all I can say is “O captain, my captain”
by Farmer Fran on Nov 25, 2009 8:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
WWJD?!?!
that’s what everyone should ask themselves b4 they post!
Michael: It is going to up in Tahoe a couple more days. Maybe you could take a date?
Lucille: How am I supposed to find someone willing to go into that musty old claptrap?
Michael: The cabin... yes! That would be difficult, too.
http://www.twitter.com/doobieman21
by chrisd21 on Nov 25, 2009 8:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
and remember.
when arguing with a fool, at the end of the day, what does that make you?
Michael: It is going to up in Tahoe a couple more days. Maybe you could take a date?
Lucille: How am I supposed to find someone willing to go into that musty old claptrap?
Michael: The cabin... yes! That would be difficult, too.
http://www.twitter.com/doobieman21
by chrisd21 on Nov 25, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I apologize for my actions.
But im not taking back what i’ve said about Steve McNair. If im not allowed to form my own opinion, or agree with somebody else’s then maybe I should just move to North Korea because I heard they’re a great advocate of free speech.
I love the way you run the site Tim, keep it up. As a blonde teeny bopper would say: zOMG Tim! You’re the best moderator EVARR!!!!@*
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 9:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and I would watch what I say more.
Is there an edit button for comments?
by Jordann on Nov 25, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tim, you run a good site
There is a difference between being critical and being distasteful and being threatening. If I am ever distasteful, I trust you will act accordingly, if action is warranted. I can promise I will never be threatening. That just isn’t me and I have not seen that here. I also don’t read everything posted. Most of the game-day posts, I never see.
We all have to remember that we do this because we are fans and it is now part of being a fan and a form of entertainment. I admit, sometimes I say things to get a rise out of another poster. But, no harm is intended other than occasionally bruising anotheraks ego. I think we can all recover form that. I accept that that is a part of this blog. We all have opinions and we all can’t be right all the time.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Nov 25, 2009 10:09 AM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Fair to say
This thread has not achieved its stated goals.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 25, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It kind of reminds of...
That scene in Talladega Nights when Ricky Bobby tries to discipline his spawn-of-Satan children for the first time after a lifetime of letting them run around pissing their pants and kicking random people in their dicks…Maybe Tim should have his mother give you all a stern talking to next.
by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 25, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, yes, you must give us all a good spanking!
A spanking! A spanking!
And after the spanking, the oral sex.
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
by bigfatdrunk on Nov 25, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
For Monty Python reference.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 26, 2009 2:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to
come at Tim like a spider monkey.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Nov 25, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dude tim
you need to ban all of these titans pricks coming over here all high and mighty talkin shit left and right, especially august west, even though he is a blogger at MCM. you need to get rid of him asap.
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