Thoughts on Charlie Casserly for a team in need?

by poz on Nov 24, 2009 12:22 PM CST Comment 23 comments

Hey Texans fans,

Bills fan here. First, sorry about MNF and good luck against the Colts. I have you guys down for pulling off the upset. It seems like your team is determined and has been planning for a win against Peyton and company all off-season.

As you may know, my team is having a horrendous season and has been publicly going after big name targets for our next head coach and GM. I was hoping to get some honest assessment from you fans on your former GM Charlie Casserly and whether or not you think he would be a good choice for a team looking to turn around its fortunes and build a winner.

I know he was sort of run out of town but he had some great draft picks like Mario Williams, Andre Johnson, Owen Daniels and DeMeco Ryans. He also seemed to bring in good support talent like Domanick Davis, Eric Winston, Dunta Robinson, and Jerome Mathis.

Right now the fans over at Buffalo Rumblings are debating our candidates for GM and head coach and Casserly's name is out there. I would

Thanks for any thoughts.

Poll

How would grade Charlie Casserly as a GM?

A

1 votes

B

4 votes

C

6 votes

D

10 votes

F

22 votes

43 votes | Poll has closed

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His draft with Williams Meco and OD was arguably more Kubiak then him. In fact all indications point to him wanting Bush over Willams. AJ was a slam dunk at #3 in the draft.

by nolander on Nov 24, 2009 12:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

keep in mind

this team didn’t become a winner till he left.

by nolander on Nov 24, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

"winner"

by nolander on Nov 24, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Dear God.

Heavens to FUCK no. You. DO. NOT. WANT.

Unless you like ever more years of ineptness, misery and failure. If that’s your cup of tea, then by all means, go for it.

When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.

by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 24, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

He shouldn't even be considered.

by Jordann on Nov 24, 2009 12:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Charlie dismantled the Redskins before coming to Houston

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Nov 24, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hearing him talk...

…you really buy that he had football knowledge.

But watching him draft, well…there’s a reason why many of those players aren’t on the team anymore….or are backups/league drop-outs.

If Ozzie Newsome has any underlings, I’d consider plucking an apple from the tree. Ozzie doesn’t miss in his talent evaluations too often.

by TexansDC on Nov 24, 2009 1:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Look,

I have a little different view, I think he’s a pretty good talent evaluater, but can’t priotize team needs. In fact I almost wish he would have stayed, because I think Charlie and Koobs where a good combo. That said he needs to have a head coach working with him that knows what he wants! I would be very hesitant of Charlie for that reason because I think the quality of what he does is somewhat depentant on the other people he is working with, and you cant predict how that will work out.

You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB

by Texans-Brocos on Nov 24, 2009 1:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

General Manager is more than draft picks

It is also salary negotiation, free agents, managing team depth and you are right, a good association with your head coach is a must. But, Charlie, IMO, did a poor job of filling needs and then overpaying, putting the team in poor position to make adjustments or improvements, when needed. He is a talking head, IMO, and that is why he is on TV, at least I think he is….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Nov 24, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's why I think plucking someone from the Ravens would be better...

…Ozzie Newsome does a fantastic job of running the Ravens. Yet, I never hear of anyone getting plucked from the front office as you do with New England. I bet there’s some good talent in Baltimore who has learned a lot from Ozzie.

by TexansDC on Nov 24, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Good stuff guys thanks

First, let me say I’m pretty surprised that he got so many F votes, so I definitely learned something here.

Couple of things:

this team didn’t become a winner till he left.

True, and interesting that Kubiak gets credit for that great draft you guys had. What makes you think he had more say?

Unless you like ever more years of ineptness, misery and failure

we’ve had that for a decade now, so Lord knows this comment scares me away from Casserly a bit !

If Ozzie Newsome has any underlings, I’d consider plucking an apple from the tree.

Our head blogger over at Rumblings has been shouting the same thing for a few months now. Interesting….

I would be very hesitant of Charlie for that reason because I think the quality of what he does is somewhat depentant on the other people he is working with

Good comment because I don’t like the people we have here and if he is dependent on the quality of others around him I don’t know if hed get that here.

overpaying, putting the team in poor position to make adjustments or improvements

That sounds like a horrible recipe for a team looking to rebuild.

Thanks for the comments guys. And if you have more thoughts by all means keep em coming. I really appreciate it, best way to get info is from the fans in my opinion, as opposed to national media “experts” who seem most informed on TOs latest mishap or anything New York/Dallas related. Hope you all dont mind if I share your thoughts with the guys back on Rumblings.

Looks like the negative feelings for Casserly still run strong in Houston.

"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny

by poz on Nov 24, 2009 4:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

not misunderstood, not restricted from succeeding by ownership, he was given carte blanche

he simply bought a bunch of flash and crap, signed it to HUGE contracts and watched the ship he built sink. After 3 years of letting all those contracts die, we are FINALLY running a tight fiscal ship…its way way better since he left. Mario & company was a great draft for us, but the following two have been good as well, and only Kubes has been present for all three…so while I don’t discount his involvment in that draft, the overall mismanagement of this organization taken over by Kubiak overshadows any one draft.
I’d skip him and hope he goes to your biggest rival.

by Smittybaby on Nov 24, 2009 6:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs