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Post-Game Breakdown: Texans Lose In Soul-Crushing Fashion To Titans On Monday Night

/takes deep breath
/rubs eyes
/does shot of Bushmills

Okay...let's do this. Let's start with a quick inventory of where your Houston Texans are at the moment. You know it well; it's called .500. At this point, some might think it's probably time we stopped renting space in the Land of Mediocrity and put down some roots. Buy a house, raise a family, join the PTA, and so forth. The honest truth, however, is that the season isn't over yet. Going into Monday night's game against Bud Adams' minions, an objective analysis of the Texans' schedule showed the Texans had to win two of their next three games--Titans, Colts, at Jaguars--to stay in the playoff hunt. That would put Houston at 7-5 going into games at home against Seattle and on the road against St. Louis.

Now, in the wake of Monday night's loss? There is no margin for error. To stay in the playoff hunt, your Houston Texans have to hand the Colts (led by an angry Peyton Manning, coming off what was probably his worst game of the season in Baltimore) their first loss of the season. It's a must-win game in every tired sense of the phrase if the Texans are to remain in the wild card chase. Lose on Sunday and realistically the Texans are an also-ran. Win on Sunday and Monday night's loss becomes a bump in the road, rather than the six-foot deep pothole it is right now. Seeing as how it's only Wednesday, the loss at home to Tennessee remains a pothole until further notice. Let's take stock of the painful specifics of the loss:

1. When your play results in a FanPost that features a title suggesting you should fornicate yourself, things are bleak, Kris Brown. In the last PGB, I noted that Brown had already missed as many FGs halfway through 2009 as he did in all of 2008. Thanks to the two (2) he yakked on Monday night, the situation has progressed from troubling to critical. But cutting the guy now? I can't get behind it. Kris Brown has been one of the, if not the, most consistent player(s) on the entire roster during his tenure in Houston. I mean, there's a reason he's been with the team since its inception, and there's a reason his extension with the organization back in June was met with applause. The guy is paid to be money when it counts the most, and he's let the team down the last two weeks. My guess is that for the first time in years the Texans bring in a challenger for the kicking job in the offseason. Absent him misfiring on another kick to tie or win a game, Brown's not getting cut mid-season. He's been too good for too long, and that counts for a whole lot, even in the face of back-to-back piles of excrement.

2. Remember when you felt like any kick inside 50 yards was going to split the uprights? Now every kick, whether it's a 20 yarder or a 54 yarder, is going to be fraught with tension. Such is our existence in this frightening new era with Kris Brown as your kicker. Across the country, Pittsburgh fans nod knowingly.

3. One more kicking-related note--despite Brown yipping in Indianapolis and missing an earlier, near-identical kick on Monday night, there's no question in my mind that Kubes did the right thing going to K. Brown when he did on Monday night. The data shows that Kris Brown usually nails that kick. You have to play the odds.

4. If you want to take exception with how Kubes handled his timeouts the last two minutes of the game, you'll get no argument from me. What I fail to understand is why people are suddenly calling for Kubes' head now. This is not a new development. Gary Kubiak has always been glaringly poor at two things--challenging rulings on the field and clock management. Always. He might be slightly better at it now than he used to be, but he's still well below average. If you want Kubes canned for his fourth quarter coaching now, you should've wanted him canned for it weeks, if not years, ago. The sun rises in the east, sets in the west, and Kubes (or the people he has in charge of clock management) is/are woeful at in-game adjustments and/or management late in a game. It's science.

5. Should the Texans lay an egg on Sunday, you're going to be hearing and reading a whole lot of stuff about firing Kubes. As the Texans' record has defined mediocrity the last two and a half seasons, it's a fair issue to raise. I would caution that I think jettisoning Kubes could be hugely detrimental to the passing game. Would it be worth it? I don't know, but I don't think so at this point. Ask me at the end of the season.

6. Preceding paragraph aside, if anyone can tell me why Chris Brown got more than twice as many carries as Steve Slaton and 11 more carries than Ryan Moats on Monday night, I'm all ears. The only thing I can think of is that Kubiak lost a bet. To Chris Brown himself. Because no one who had the Texans' best interests at heart would've ever suggested, even jokingly, that Chris Brown should have been the featured back. Nothing, and I truly mean NOTHING, logically explains that decision. What's more, I'm not sure I want to live in a world where Chris Brown is the Texans' primary RB. My blood will be on Kubes' hands if Chris Brown gets the majority of the carries on Sunday. Remember me fondly.

7. For all the heat Kubes and Frank Bush get on a week-to-week basis, I am stunned at how Alex Gibbs remains totally off the blame radar. The guru of offensive line coaching is presiding over a horrific rushing attack and an offensive line that cannot block for a running back to save its life. Losing Chester Pitts and Mike Brisiel for the season hurts, but the absence of those two guys alone does not explain the completely anemic running game, particularly considering how potent it was last year. Teams don't even have to pretend to respect the Texans' running game. One first down running the ball on Monday night. One!

8. I'm baffled as to why the Texans' front four cannot formulate a consistent pass rush. Vince Young typically had as much time as he wanted. Yet, at various times, you see good play from each individual on the line--Super Mario, Amobi, Antonio Smith, Shaun Cody--on a given play. Why can't they put it together every snap?

9. Speaking of Vince Young...hate him all you want, but the guy did what he needed to do, especially in terms of converting third downs. I would hope that Frank Bush commits a spy to him next year.

10. The Texans did a pretty good job holding Chris Johnson in check. He needed 29 carries to accumulate 151 yards, which was more than a yard below his YPC average going into Monday night. Johnson really only had one big run, and the Texans kept him out of the end zone. Houston bottled him up well enough to win the game.

11. While the officiating on Monday night left much to be desired, it didn't cost the Texans the game. The play that infuriated me the most was at the end of the first half, when the Titans laid on top of Steve Slaton, waiting for the clock to expire. Smart play by the Titans' defenders; even though I would've liked to see a flag, I knew it wasn't coming.

12. Some free advice for Dunta Robinson: Fire your agent. Every time I watch him play, I grow even more bewildered that he purportedly turned down $23,000,000.00 in guaranteed money from the Houston Texans. Dunta might as well have had "Faggins" across the back of jersey on Monday night with the way he got targeted and abused. By a rookie wide receiver. And a QB who's not exactly trumpeted for his passing acumen.  And lest we forget, said QB also made Dunta look extremely foolish on a completely whiffed tackle. At the rate he's going, Dunta Robinson is challenging Latrell Sprewell for the title of "Worst Self-Evaluation By An Athlete At Contract Time."

13. As much as I like the guy, David Anderson should not be leading this team in receptions.

14. Man, I am struggling for positives this week. But there were some:

a. Matt Schaub--despite being under pressure for much of the evening, he played extremely well. And that last drive to get the Texans into field goal range was reminiscent of what he did last year against Miami, albeit with a different result this time around. Although he did make a horrible throw or two, Schaub didn't throw any picks. How many QBs would you take over him right now? It's a very short list.
b. James Casey--showed enough on Monday night that I'm geeked to see what he does the rest of the season, especially if the Texans continue playing him as much as they did two days ago.

There. Let us never speak of this again. Colts will be here before we know it, and the Texans' playoff hopes are on life support. Time to turn the page. At least that's what my therapist tells me.

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yeah.

i touched on pretty much the same thing in my full undressing of dunta “i likez to whif” robinson.

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by chrisd21 on Nov 25, 2009 12:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with most of that breakdown. One thing I am curious of is, what examples do you present for Kubiak having poor clock management and/or mismanaging his timeouts in the 4th quarter of this game? I dont remember the clock or timeout use being a problem.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 25, 2009 12:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ditto...

Especially for this game. I didn’t see issue one with how the game/clock was mismanaged.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Nov 25, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Ditto

I thought Kubes should’ve used a timeout during TEN’s last drive (after the play that occurred immediately prior to the two minute warning) and/or after Walter’s catch on our last drive. Especially during the latter, as I think a timeout there could have given us another play before K. Brown had to kick.

Notwithstanding that second-guessing, I don’t think Kubes’ clock management was the death blow in this game. He managed the clock well enough to get Kris Brown into field goal range.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Nov 25, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thats really a judgment call, and its easy for us to say when to use it now since we know the outcome. During the game he didnt know if the titans would get another first down and he would need it then. Honestly I dont see that changing the outcome of the game so I dont know how that would be classified as poor clock management.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 26, 2009 6:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's just like it was earlier in the season.

We expected to beat the Jets, lose to the Titans. Here, we’ve got to beat the Colts. Absolutely 100%. No other game matters.

by TexansDC on Nov 25, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

To add on..

…A playoff team is gonna fight back. They’re gonna be mad as hell. And they will play with intensity and urgency. We’ll see if the Texans are that team…

by TexansDC on Nov 25, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just remember how they finished last season

It can be done. We have the technology.

When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.

by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 25, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

So uh, can we please make Dunta the nickle now?

by nolander on Nov 25, 2009 1:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The nickel?

Lets give him the Fred Bennett treatment.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Nov 25, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Fuggin A.

At least Bob can save game check money on his punk ass.
DAMN, I fuggin hate him!!

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Nov 25, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How about a sock full of nickels.

When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.

by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 26, 2009 2:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

According to Rotoworld

Eugene Wilson to IR

The Texans have signed….

wait for it

wait for it….

Brian Russell.

Yikes. That is all.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Nov 25, 2009 2:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

omg sadface. Wilson was a hard hitter and decent in coverage. This is sad news indeed.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 25, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding Chris Brown

I heard on 790 today that Kubiak looked at tape throughout the week and determined that when Brown was in the game the pass blocking was better than with Slaton or Moats. I dont really understand this because Slaton was good as a rookie last year in pass blocking and that has not been the knock on him this season. It also seems to me like Kubiak was sacrificing the run game to help the O-line pass block which feels utterly ridiculous to me.

As for calling for Kubiak’s head, I put up some numbers on the first Bill Cowher thread that show Kubiak has been bad, and had enough time. Only 8 coaches have been with their team longer than Kubiak, 6 have been to a super bowl, the other 2 have been to the playoffs and have winning records overall. The 3 coaches that have been with their team since 2006 (like Kubiak) all have winning records and all have been to the playoffs. The precedent for a firing is there.

by TexasHoosier on Nov 25, 2009 4:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I read you original comments

And I completely disagree with your assessment. Kubiak’s been bad? You mean the coach who took over a 2-14 team and has had only one losing season (his first) since? The coach who took over a team so bad that only 4 players are left over from that 2-14 team, one of whom is on IR and another is the kicker? The coach that took a team that was 3-7 at this point last year and STILL finished 8-8? If that’s your definition of bad, then I think your standards are way too high.

I don’t think it’s fair to compare Kubiak to other coaches who have been coaching since 2006 because his situation is completely unique. How many of those other coaches were forced to completely dismantle the teams they inherited? Unless those coaches took over in Jacksonville, Carolina, or Cleveland, then you can’t make that comparison. All other NFL teams have had decades of drafts and long-tenured veterans to help the new blood make smooth transitions into the NFL. We have the youngest team in the NFL and if you take away 41-year-old Matt Turk and 39-year-old Jeff Zgonina then the average age takes a serious dip. Can anyone point out one other coach since 1990 that has had to start a team over the way Kubiak’s done and still made the playoffs in his 4th year?

It’s not Kubiak’s fault that Chris Brown fumbled at the one-yard-line. It’s not Kubiak’s fault that Chris Meyer’s got bitch-shoved into Brown on 4th-and-1. It’s not Kubiak’s fault that Kris Brown’s new nickname is Tin Cup. He didn’t drop a sure interception or get Faggined by a rookie. It isn’t his fault that our starting running back, who gained 1400 yards in his rookie season, has suddenly become our teams biggest liabilty. We’re now back to the running back situation we had in 2007, when we had a musical chair system for our starting halfbacks.

In an abrupt aside, some of the “experts” on our talk radio stations are saying that Kubiak should be fired if we have another 8-8 season. That he’s had plenty of time and we should be winning by now. One nimrod even said that even if we go 9-7 it should be 50-50 whether or not he stays. Really? We have our first ever winning season and his job should still be in jeopardy? What horseshit.

While I’m ranting, can anyone show me a link to the formula that says by 8 years a team should be in the playoffs? I’ve looked all over NFL.com and I can’t find it anywhere. It must be there, somewhere, though, because one of the other mantras I hear the “experts” bleating is that 8 years is a long enough time to wait and we should be in the playoffs this year, but I can’t find it.

/sigh
Look, it’s not like I have a Kubiak Fathead on my wall. I just want the guy to get treated fairly. I want him to get the chance to turn us into a consistent, real winner. I think he can.

And to close on a purely hedonistic note, watching those Rockets dancers is better than porn.
 

by LedTexan on Nov 25, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

>I don’t think it’s fair to compare Kubiak to other coaches who have been coaching since 2006 because his situation is completely unique

The coaches who took over other teams that bad(like the lions or browns) failed so bad they got fired. Kubes at least has brought hope.

>. Can anyone point out one other coach since 1990 that has had to start a team over the way Kubiak’s done and still made the playoffs in his 4th year?

Then again Miami did it in one year.

by nolander on Nov 26, 2009 2:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

Payton at New Orleans. Started his tenure the same year as Kubiak with a 3-13 team and this year they are undefeated.

My criticism of Kubiak is wholly based on my observations over his entire career. I speak now, because I have been hoping for so long that he had learned from his mistakes. He has not. It is time for a change. I am tired of watching the team lose and I can point to major mistakes on the coaches part where the game was lost; both decisions that he made in strategy over the duration of a game and decisions he makes in crunch-time. He manages the team in a “not to lose” mode and how many times have we seen this team jump out on teams only to see the coach take the foot of the accelerator to give the other team an opening to comeback? Too many! How many times have we seen him squander time and timeouts in close games in cruch-time? Too many! It is habitual! How many times have we seen Kubiak make decisions on players or strategy that results in handing the other team the upper hand in the game? Too many!

I’m telling you now, I have noticed it for 3 1/2 years and despite my best efforts I can no longer stay quiet. I am a dang homer, yet, Kubiaks flaws are visible and numerous. It shows in the win-loss record. I was so deluded that I thought this year would be different, because the team is put together pretty good and I thought that any coach coulf drive this team to the playoffs. No one could drive this team into a wreck! Well, I am no longer deluded. This team needs a new coach. Kubiaks flaws can not be overcome. He has a layoff team under his wings and he is flying it into the ground! What a waste, I say….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Nov 26, 2009 7:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Are Kubes' flaws more or less...

Than the flaws in our defensive backfield and interior offensive line?

I see some people’s points about some of the clock management stuff, and those are somewhat valid, but the TEAM still doesn’t have enough talent to be a real-deal winner consistently. We don’t have that one, sure-fire facet that can be constantly leaned on for victories. Our wins have been manufactured by total team play, for the most part. The offense is almost there, to be that facet, but there are still holes. The same could be said for the D.
Bottom line is, we had to hit the reset button when Kubes showed up and Kris Brown, Andre, and Pitts were all the base we started with.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Nov 26, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

To follow up on Payton/NO

1) The Saints were lucky enough to have the entire NFL shun Drew Brees for…some reason. That was a much bigger factor than Sean Payton.
2) Other than the difference in skill between Drew Brees and Matt Schaub, the Saints offense really hasn’t been too much better than ours the past few years.
3) The Saints were just as mediocre as the Texans a year ago, until they hired an actual defensive coordinator and he went to work remaking their defense. The Texans promoted from within and have been rewarded with mixed results even despite bringing in talented players.

I really don’t think Payton has anything on Kubiak as a coach. I think they’re both solid coaches that are a product of their circumstances.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Nov 27, 2009 8:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

excellent post. The problem is the not the coaching, its the maturity level of the players because they are so young. They havent gotten that will to win yet, they still play scared like young kids do. It would do us some good to get a couple key veterans to fire the younger guys up.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 26, 2009 6:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kubiak sucks and you know it

The players are fine. It is the idiotic decision-making of Kubiak that is holding the team back. This team is put together right now with some excellent players. There are some areas that need improvment, but this is a playoff caliber team. They have lost games that they are cpable of winning and the reasons are directly related to Kubiak’s game management or lack thereof.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Nov 26, 2009 7:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

explain to me again how Kubiak fumbled at the goalline? How he threw a pick 6? Or how he decided not to block so his running back could get 1 yard? Maybe how he missed 2 field goals? Our players are NOT excellent. They have alot of raw talent and potential, but they are not excellent because they do not make the big when it is needed most. It doesnt matter who is standing on the sideline with the headset, if your player doesnt make the play, you lose.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 26, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jettisoning Kubes?

I understand that he’s at least somewhat in the hot seat this season, but I don’t see how he can be much faulted for the last two losses. If we’d managed to make it to overtime, it’s likely we’d have won at least one of those games (depending on who won the toss of course). I don’t see how how Kris Brown’s sudden inaccuracy is on anyone but Kris Brown.

I know it sucks and is incredibly painful that the Texans find new and incredible ways to shit the bread and kill the collective liver of their fanbase, but I don’t think he shoulders as much of the blame this season.

Unless Chris Brown continues to start – this is only slightly hyperbolic: any coach who thinks Chris Brown is a legitimate RB1 has no business in the NFL.

by cubic on Nov 25, 2009 5:05 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Kubes can be blamed for playing Chris Brown

Kubes can be blamed for a shit running game because thats what he was known for in Denver and with Alex Gibbs we should have something that resembles a running game. Kubes can be blamed for appointing a 1st year D coordinator when we have a young defense and an offensive minded head coach, which is probably why the defense sucked the first 3 weeks.

Im not saying Kubiak should be blamed for all of those things, but the truth is that he is the Head Coach and he can be blamed for almost anything. When deciding whether or not to fire Kubiak, one should look at his entire tenure here in Houston, not just the most recent season. He has had time, he has a talented roster, and he has good assistant coaches, somewhere something is getting fucked up. Maybe its Kubes, maybe its not, but another .500 season should not be enough for him to keep his job at this point.

by TexasHoosier on Nov 25, 2009 5:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I HAD TO

Rec because the phrase, “shit the bread and kill the collective liver of their fanbase” is the most accurate description I’ve ever heard! Whoops, there goes my liver!

by drunk dog on Nov 26, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Im sick to my stomach....

I’m sick n tired of a sorry ass 8-8 record! Y can not we be a legit team? We got a bunch of good talent around us (not kris brown nor daunta). It is frustrating me. We should be like 8-2 right now. We never get recognized not that it matters or anything but damn! But I can see now y we don’t. Like someone said “something is fucked up here in Houston” if we don’t beat the colts I dunno what I’m gonna do. I liked kubiak ( key word LIKED) but I don’t think he is the right guy to coach this talented team. I like Kyle he is a great play caller tho. Where is bill parcells??? J/k haha. On the real tho I think kubiak may need to hit the road. Sorry if your a fan of him but it’s what’s best for this team. He is jus not aggressive enough for me. Yea sure he wants to win but he isn’t showing me he’s hungry enough. If I had one wish it would be that the texans are a feared team and spankin these teams left and right and have a damn real winning record. If anyone got thoughts or comments on what I wrote please feel free to let me hear them. The texans need to wake up and snap out of it cause Andre Johnson is “tired of losing”

by Texan_4_life on Nov 25, 2009 9:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Im think trying to fathom why no one is blaming the players for failing at the end of the game 4 times in a row. Someone said putting the team in a position to win is not good enough and the coach needs to do more. What more is it he is supposed to do? Strap on a cape and fly out on the field himself? He put the talent on the field, he called the game well enough to be in a position at the end, the players have to man the fuck up and make the play. I mean honestly we have a top 5 offense, top 3 QB, top 3 WR, a defense that is 100 times better than last years, it seems to me the coach is doing everything short of going out on the field himself to win. Im pissed off at the players. If we were losing games by 20 points every time I could maybe see your point, but we arent.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 26, 2009 6:59 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

You contrdict yourself with every statement

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Nov 26, 2009 7:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

where is the contradiction?

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 26, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You exclaim the virtues of the players

And then blame them, when it is obviously the game management short-fallings of the coach. Game in, game out, the coach does something totally ridiculous and blows what should have been a win. He didn’t have to go with Chris Brown at RB. He didn’t have to make Kris Brown try to make a 49 yarder. This coach has no grasp of how to try to go for another teams jugular. He plays to “not lose” and in the NFL, that just doesn’t work! There’s a team on the other side of the field!!!! Kubiak must go! And that’s the last time I broach this subject on Thanksgiving Day!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Nov 26, 2009 10:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

dude Im trying hard to follow this new “PC” way of posting without calling you a cornucopia of names I have floating around in my head, but I have to ask, are you on medication? Did you even pay attention to what you are accusing me of contradicting? I “exclaimed” the virtues of a couple of players, players who have their good stat lines in part because of the playcalling that everyone wants to bash all the time. None of that changes the fact that a handful of players have blown the big play at the end of the game that could have turned the loss into a win. They were put in a position at the end of each game by this terrible coach you dont like, and they did not step up and execute. Please explain these examples of “something totally rediculous” that Kubiak has done to blow the game, because without citing examples, its just baseless pitchfork waving nonsense. While I didnt like Chris Brown at RB either, Chris Brown didnt lose the game for us. None of our running backs are running any more effectively. Its quite amusing to me how earlier in the season when Kubiak was trying to run the ball, all you nancies were screaming about how stupid he is for sticking to the run, because obviously we are a passing team and we need to stick to our strengths. So now he goes pass heavy and doesnt focus on running the ball, and yet everyone starting crying now that he isnt establishing a good running game and giving backs like Slaton and Moats enough touches? So looks like Kubiak is in a damned if you do, damned if you dont situation with the fickle fan base. Also if a kicker cant make a 49 yard field goal, he shouldnt be in the NFL for gods sake. Blaming Kubiak for Browns woes is the single dumbest thing I have ever heard. Theres kickers hitting 60 yard kicks for gods sake.

Its so easy just to blame the guy at the top of the totem pole isnt it? Thats whats wrong with this country, everyone is looking for a singular point to focus blame on for everything, that is never the case. I have yet to see a single game where we play well and anyone gives the coach any credit whatsoever. Its always about how awesome Andre did, the defense really stepped up, Matt was throwing well, etc etc. But when we lose, its OMG FIRE KUBIAK ITS ALL HIS FAULT RABBLE RABBLE. You might as well change Kubiaks name to Bush because its just like politics, " I dont like this, Im gonna ignore the hundreds of people involved and focus my blame on one person".

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Nov 26, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

completely agree with all of Goat's statements.

And yes, Rip is being an idiot.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Nov 26, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rip an idiot? Never!

by nolander on Nov 26, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont know who you are describing

You are obviously angry. I suggest you take a hiatus, dude, because you’re taking all of this too serious.

passes Goat some meds

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Nov 27, 2009 7:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Can we agree to put this subject to bed until the end of the season?

Earlier in the season, if I remember correctly, everyone was saying that if we lost to the Bengals to go to 2-4 than Kubiak should be fired, or atleast seriously on the hot seat. Well, as we all know, we won that game and then went on a 3 game winning streak to basically put the Kubiak on the hot seat to rest until we lost Monday.

My point is that unless we go on some horrible losing streak right now Kubiak will still have his job at the end of the season. This will most likely still be a debate after we play the Patriots on Jan 3rd and arguing about it now is pointless and angering.

Personally my biggest problem with Kubiak is that I dont see fire out of him. It could just be the times I see him on TV, but I have never seen Kubiak yell at a player or be angry after a loss in the press conference. To me he seems extremely level headed and too calm about everything to be a successful NFL head coach. I also sense a strategy to “not lose” instead of “playing to win the game.” I think promoting a defensive coach to be a 1st year defensive coordinator with a young defense and an offensive minded head coach was a dumb move. I believe that is why we struggled at the beginning of the season but we have since turned it around. We have also been killed by injuries at key positions to veteran players like Pitts and Brisiel which makes it difficult to judge Kubiak and has drastically hurt the running game.

RIght now I am undecided about Kubiak, but by the end of the season it will hopefully be clearer to everyone.

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by TexasHoosier on Nov 26, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

a respectable position

I lean in the other direction. I will agree on your points about the first year defensive coach; playing not to lose; and lacking the fire to inspire. I would add to that, my personal opinions that Kubiak had also exhibited a stubborness to force the run game that is obviously not working and it has resulted in L’s. Also, his game management on crucial 4th quarter drives has also resulted in L’s. The law of averages says that sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn’t and that is what I think we are seeing from Kubiak. The result is a .500 record. I don’t think anyone can argue that point. My belief is that this team has playoff caliber personnel and the reults certainly do not indicate playoffs. Kubiak is not making the difference between an also-ran and a playoff team. He has failed. Nothing personal. As a person of character, Kubiak is at the top of the charts. On the simple basis of judging him if he can create W’s, well, he doesn’t have it. The proof is in the record. There are just as many L’s as there are W’s. Kubiak has had a fair shake. This season this team has lost all of its home games against its division rivals! I need no more proof. The part of you analysis that I disagree with is putting a decision on a timetable. I have made my decision. It means nothing in the scheme of things. I could be wrong. The Kubiak-led Texans could go on a tear and rack up enough wins to be respectable. If that were to happen, it would have to be a changed Kubiak, because the current Kubiak just can’t do it.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Nov 27, 2009 7:22 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding three of your points

On the postgame show on 610 after the game Monday Matt Jackson and that dork he was on the air with began accusing Kubiak of playing not to lose. After that, I began seeing that accusation all over the blogs. Not a single time before that can I remember anyone accusing him of that. Kubiak has always been an agressive play caller, even to his own detriment. He had no problem calling pass plays that moved the team into field goal range. But once he was there, he made a prudent decision to get the ball into the center of the field for Kris Brown. Remember, we were barely in field goal range. The Titans had had a ferocious pass rush all night. A holding penalty on a basically useless pass play would have taken us out of it. And now, for some reason, people consider that playing not to lose.

As far as his disposition, what does that have to do with his coaching ability? I don’t see how raging at players on the sideline or throwing them under the bus in press conferences would be inspirational. Every time someone talks about fire coming from Bill Cowher and Jon Gruden I think of Tom Landry, Bill Walsh, and Tony Dungy. None of those last 3 were particularly fiery or demonstrative, yet they had great success in the NFL. I went to one of the Texans practices this year, and while Kubiak wasn’t out there screaming, he had no problems calling guys over and giving them a good dressing down. Just curious, have any reporters or cameras been allowed into the Texans locker room after a game? I wonder if hearing him in there would change some people’s view of his demeanor.

Lastly, I think the main problems we had on defense at the beginning of the year were more personnel-related than youth- or experience-related. Once Fred Bennett and Dominique Barber were benched and Bernard Pollard came in we had a huge turnaround. Could just be coincidence but I don’t think so.
 

by LedTexan on Nov 27, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

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