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Ryan Moats has made a good case to get more opportunities from out of the Houston backfield.

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Ryan Moats has made a good case to get more opportunities from out of the Houston backfield.

It is no big secret that Steve Slaton has had a rough go at his sophomore season in the NFL. You can blame the offensive line for not giving him any lanes to run through. You can blame him for adding bulk in the offseason. You can even blame the playcalling for making running plays too predictable. All of that is fine and good. But the bottom line remains that he has endured the fabled "Sophomore Slump." Half of an NFL season is a good measuring stick to make that assumption.

And this isn’t even taking into account his fumbling problem, which isn’t as surprising to me as it has been for many of my fellow Texans fans. One of his negatives before the draft was that he had a hard time hanging onto the ball while at West Virginia at times.

But the reaction to his benching against Buffalo last Sunday has been met with mixed feelings from many. Some feel that it was about time and others were criticizing head coach Gary Kubiak for not having patience with a young player going through a hard time. I have to disagree. Kubiak has been more than patient with Steve and has handled it the best way imaginable. By benching him for an entire game, and watching another guy have a career day in his place, had to be an eye-opening experience for Steve. The axiom that "The NFL stands for Not For Long" isn’t just a clever catch phrase.

Then we have his backup, Ryan Moats. A guy who before Sunday was known more for his offseason issues with a Dallas police officer than he was for his play on the field. A guy who has waited patiently for his opportunity and kept his mouth shut and capitalized when his number was called. And when asked after the game if he thought that he should be the starter, he remained humble when he had every reason to brag a little bit.

A third round pick out of Louisiana Tech in 2005, Moats was stuck behind Philadelphia Eagles standout Brian Westbrook for most of his time there. He broke his ankle in the Eagles first preseason game in 2007 and missed the entire season. It would be the last time he played for them, as he was released in the final round of cuts the next season. He stuck around on Arizona’s practice squad for about three weeks before he was released again. Houston quickly snatched him up a week later to their own practice squad. After cutting Darius Walker and multiple injuries to Ahman Green, Moats was promoted to the active roster and quickly rose to second on the depth chart behind Steve Slaton.

Now that you know a little more about the guy, we can move towards the debate. Many are calling for Moats to get the start at Indianapolis this Sunday over Slaton. Yet, others are saying Buffalo’s awful run defense was the only reason he had the breakout performance. Me? I don’t care. I want whoever gives us the best chance to win. I am completely unbiased on the issue.

Of course, I feel that Steve is the more talented player. I mean, the guy is electric and can score almost any time he touches the ball. But, much like Jacoby Jones, you start to hold your breath every time he has the ball now. Seven fumbles in eight games doesn’t even happen in a video game. That is a hell of a bad run. And it isn’t anything that can be corrected without getting the opportunity on the field. But could you imagine the fallout if we are right there about to beat The Colts on Sunday and Steve puts it on the ground, and it turns out to be the play that costs us the game? That would be Sage Rosenfels all over again. And I wouldn’t wish that on any player.

I am all for starting whoever Coach Kubiak chooses and then having them split carries evenly. Let’s see how Ryan Moats runs against someone that isn’t Buffalo. Not that Indy is world-beaters against the run or anything, but at 8-0 they surely aren’t awful.

So, let’s hear it, BRB nation. Who you got starting this Sunday, and why?

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Ryan Moats or Steve Slaton. Who would you prefer to see start on Sunday?
Steve Slaton
626 votes
Ryan Moats
673 votes
Chris Brown...You know you love him...
39 votes

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I picked Slaton because I like him way more than Moats on the screen pass. But I am all for them getting even number of carries.

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by Mike Kerns on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Apparently Chris Brown visits the board...

Hello Chris.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Nov 3, 2009 2:53 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Ha Ha

I knew someone would pick it.

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by Mike Kerns on Nov 3, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

colts

are 7-……….1

GO TEXANS!!!!

This is the year.......

by Texanmaniac on Nov 3, 2009 3:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Colts already had their Bye week, so they are 7-0 until this Sunday.

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by Shake on Nov 3, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sample size cast aside for now...

Watching the difference from the pre-season through the Buffalo game, my eyes tell me that Moats makes his decision on where to hit the LOS much faster than Slaton has. He bursts to the hole, and it has led to him rarely getting caught for a loss.

Now, as with everything in the NFL, that also has its downside. Because there are a few plays that if he had waited just a half-second longer, then the 2nd level blocking kicks in and he gets a 10-15 yard gain instead of 2-5.

But give me ball security and 2-10 yard gains all day over fumbles and -5 to 30 yard gains.

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by Shake on Nov 3, 2009 3:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agree

And I noticed that, too. Early on, it just looked like Moats was way more decisive, while, I wouldn’t say that Steve was dancing in the backfield, but there was a difference.
I thought that it was the line, and they would’ve handled it by now, but there still seems to be that difference. Odd.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Nov 3, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

colts

are 7-……….1

GO TEXANS!!!!

This is the year.......

by Texanmaniac on Nov 3, 2009 3:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

my phone

posted this twice, apologies

GO TEXANS!!!!

This is the year.......

by Texanmaniac on Nov 3, 2009 3:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

my phone

posted this twice, apologies

GO TEXANS!!!!

This is the year.......

by Texanmaniac on Nov 3, 2009 3:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

I'm starting Moats.

SS lost the starting job not just becasue of this past Sunday but because of the last 8 Sundays. Moats did everything that has been asked of SS this year and came thru in both running well and holding on to the ball – neither of which SS has been able to do all year. With SS yet to really produce in the RB position I think you let Moats take a shot at Indy in that position and let him keep it until he loses it – just like SS. Slaton can be used motioning out wide or lining up in the slot and I think you can use him in that way but Moats earned that spot by SS lack luster year and when Moats was called upon he performed at another level we haven’t seen this year from the RB position. I’m with you MIke, I don’t care who’s back there I just want to win but I think you have to give Moats a shot at the starting role this week.

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by Bobobigbro on Nov 3, 2009 3:34 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Hard to argue with that...

Even for me.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Nov 3, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Great take!

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by Mike Kerns on Nov 3, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

7 fumbles = your ass is on the bench PERIOD

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Nov 3, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I just had to pick Chris Brown.

But if I was to make sense, I would pick Moats. Let him get majority of the carries and have Slaton play on third downs.

by Jordann on Nov 3, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

so if we were

to give them equal shares we would only fumble once a game. Not a bad idea. Start Moats and make him the guy. You can line slaton up whereever you want and you know what, Moats can catch the ball too and as we’ve seen he can be explosive (2 catches last week for 25 yards) so you still have either a RB screen possiblity with Moats or a WR screen with Slaton. Either way the Colts have no idea what to expect this week or how we will approach the game offensively with OD out and SS issues. We really can show them lots of different looks this week which plays to our advantage. Maybe you start feeding Slaton the ball a little bit late in the second half (fresh legs against a tired D) if we are able to wear them down in the first half.

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by Bobobigbro on Nov 3, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

MJD is a harass

He has schaub as his fantasy QB

by AllenOU on Nov 3, 2009 4:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I especially like how it auto corrects the word “pissy” to “Pussy”

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by Mike Kerns on Nov 3, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

?

What’s the over/under on how many migrant votes Slaton is getting due to folks from other team fansites coming over here because he is on their FF team?

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by Shake on Nov 3, 2009 4:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thats why i'm here..

Although I do believe Moats’ last week performance had alot to do with the D he faced. He’s a solid guy. Texan fans should be stoked they have a two headed monster going forward.

by _Atwater27 on Nov 4, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Slaton needs to start

He is too explosive in the screen game; we can’t afford to lose that part of our offense, especially with OD out for the season. And he needs to be running the ball as well so the Colts won’t be able to sniff out a screen just by virtue of Slaton being on the field.

That said, I’d like to see him splitting carries with Moats. I like how decisively he was hitting the hole in Buffalo.

by cubic on Nov 3, 2009 4:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

split carries and playing time

around 40% of the time for steve and moats and toss a little of chris brown in there as well.. it might keep the defense guessing

by amaar on Nov 3, 2009 4:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I'm down with a time share.

Moats gets the start, if it was up to me. Worst run D or not, he does look really decisive out there. Even if the big play potential isn’t as high as it would be with Slaton, I still feel really secure when the little guy is in the mix. Also, Moats for sure has to get the goal line carries.

by MadMartygan on Nov 3, 2009 5:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Moats should start

But both should play. Moats EARNED it. Also, its not like he’s some unknown RB that got his first carries this past weekend – he did a fine job whenever given opportunities last year as well as this year.

by WhiskeyR on Nov 3, 2009 5:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Slaton should sit until after the bye.

He needs time to get his head straight.

In my mind he is still the starter. He just needs to step back from the process for a couple weeks and get his head clear.

I say he starts the Monday Night game.

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by TexansForever on Nov 3, 2009 5:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Basically, if its going between the tackles, its gotta be Moats.

Slaton plays decoy with some touches on screens etc.. We need access to all our weapons, but we can’t give Manning the ball.

by Smittybaby on Nov 3, 2009 6:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I voted Moats.

If we were going up against a lesser team, I wouldn’t mind Slaton trying to work out his issues. But we cannot turn the ball over to the Colts on the road and win. Also, don’t even try predicting a Texan victory on Stampede Blue, they just make jokes about OD being injured, very classy group of douchbags over there. Their editor loves threatening people for no reason as well,

CHFTim You’re trolling. We get it already. You think the Texans will win. Great. Happy for your opinion. But going to each and every comment and repeating it is akin to trolling. I’ve already banned two Texans fans for starting this kind of crap last week, and i’ll ban YOU if you keep it up.

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by CFHTim on Nov 3, 2009 6:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I VOTED SLATON

With owen daniels out of the game you need your play makers in the game . with so much on the line you have to put the pressure on slaton to be the professional he is paid to be settle him down and let the big play come naturally. I know that settle him down and put the pressure on are contradictory but this is the nfl get it done!!!

by txoutlaw on Nov 3, 2009 6:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Slaton's fumbling problems at WVU were mostly in his sophomore season.

Maybe this is just a sophomore thing that he goes through until he can adjust to how he must carry the ball in the NFL.

I feel as if Slaton should start with Moats getting about 40% of the snaps, unless Steve fumbles. Slaton is too exlposive to keep on the bench in the most important game in franchise history. Rotating RBs will keep the defense guessing and the RBs fresh.

by TexasHoosier on Nov 3, 2009 6:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

How about

instead of just time to get his head straight someone teaches him how to carry the ball. Each strip in the last at least 4 games he was one handing it in traffic. I think it was Billick or someone announcing that said you just don’t say anything but that’s stupid. If someone is using bad technique then correct it. He’s being paid as a player to play well and listen to his coaches so RB coach earn your money and coach.

by sammocyr on Nov 3, 2009 7:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Fumbles

Slaton had a broken wrist the season he had a few fumbles. Maybe they need to do an MRI and make sure it is not injured.
As for his added bulk the all knowing NFL coaches should have seen how he had a mediocore season his last year at WVU after adding 15 lbs. It is amazing how they thought that would help his endurance and speed. Dorsett was not that big either but Landry did not have him 20 lbs heavier then his norm.
The line and play calling have hurt Slaton as well. So please bench him and cut him so a team that has a clue how to run the ball can pick him up.

by achance09 on Nov 3, 2009 8:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

well

I voted Moats, but Slaton will start. If he fumbles again and/or has a standard SS performance (this year) in the first half, Moats takes over in the second.

It isn’t just about the fumbles. Slaton has really sucked at anything other than a Reggie Bush kinda role this year.

by killtacular on Nov 4, 2009 3:11 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I would split carries against the Colts, then take the long bye to figure out what the hell is wrong with Slaton mentally. He didnt do this last season, so we know its mental. Someone ring up Tiki Barber. Slaton is just the better talent, reduce his carries until you can get his confidence back and then let him loose again. Moats is a hard worker, but Im not sold on his ability based solely on the bills game and a handful of carries against the raiders.

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by DaGoaT on Nov 4, 2009 7:24 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

voted moats.

to start. texans usually dig themselves a hole, and always have to fight back (due to early turnovers) i say start moats, let him beat up on the defense, and bring slaton in on 2 and 3rd down, as the down and distance warrants. a nice change of pace. then in the 4th, when you wanna wear em down, bring in brown. you have three healthy backs, why not use all of them, so that they all stay fresh?

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by chrisd21 on Nov 4, 2009 9:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Voted Slaton but he should be on a short leash. If he puts it on the ground this week he should be pulled immediately. Moats should get his share of carries but I just don’t feel he has the “home run” potential of Slaton.

by Atreyuu on Nov 4, 2009 11:46 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I just don't get it.

“If he puts the ball on the ground this week” He’s been doing that for 8 WEEKS NOW. “Home run potential” Haven’t seen it from SS this year. He was great last year and he is having problems this year. I don’t want to boot him off the team but shit man we are HALF WAY thru the season. The guy has had plenty of chances to get it going. Start Moats and see what happens from there b/c you have 3 healthy backs that you can play at any time.

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by Bobobigbro on Nov 4, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jacobi is actually a good comparison to Slaton

we didn’t stop giving Jacobi the ball on special teams. I don’t see the coaches giving up on Slaton, but damn… Moats deserves carries. He looks flat out faster than Slaton.

by goingforthecorner on Nov 4, 2009 9:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Who's the starter?

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by rlott#42 on Nov 5, 2009 12:35 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kubes Hasn't Announced It Yet

But most of us are of the belief that it’ll be Moats this week, though Slaton will get plenty of work too.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Nov 5, 2009 8:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I got Slaton on fantasy

That (site decorum) fumbled and was taken out and got me a whopping negative 1. I want to pla him against the Colts, but Idon’t know

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by rlott#42 on Nov 5, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I Feel Your Pain

He contributed a solid -0.8 for me last week.

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by Tim on Nov 5, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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