Texans Lose To The Colts--What Else Is New?
The Indianapolis Colts pushed their series record against the Houston Texans to 14-1 on Sunday. As that record indicates, the Colts have regularly dismembered the eight year old franchise en route to multiple AFC South championships. Even though the result was the same, this didn't feel like the normal Colts vs. Texans matchup. This may still be a little raw for many Texans fans who saw Kris Brown's 42 yard field goal sail just wide left, but here is what I saw of note from Sunday.
I was worried that we would lose this game, but if you told me Saturday that the defense would outplay Gary Kubiak's offense, "disbelief" is an understatement of what I would have felt. To say that a game in which the opposing quarterback threw 50 times for 38 completions and 318 yards is successful is bold, especially since the tight end set a franchise record for 14 catches and 119 yards, but I believe that was the case. In a pre-game post, I wrote that the defense would have to adopt a "bend don't break" philosophy against the Colts, and that's exactly what they did. It was FAR from a perfect effort, but they gave the offense a few chances to win that game.
Antonio Smith - I feel that everyone maligning Smith as an overpaid free agent are watching different Texans games than I am. Smith added one sack to his tally, but his regular pressure forced many early throws from Peyton Manning and set up Mario Williams for a sack of his own. He seems to be getting better as the season progresses.
Connor Barwin - I've been huge on this guy since he was drafted, and I still feel that he will be a valuable contributor once he learns more than a speed rush, but those two penalties were unacceptable. Barwin is a smart guy, so for him to put the team in those situations, especially the infraction that gave the Colts field position at around the 50 in the fourth quarter, is frustrating.
Brian Cushing - For the first time since the beginning of the season, Cushing looked like a rookie. Frank Bush kept Cushing on the field for all downs, despite Dallas Clark shattering his career record for receptions in a single game. It seemed that Bush was willing to concede the soft underneath throws to ensure the defense continued to stymie the run by selling out against it. The Texans played the run well again, holding Joseph Addai to only 63 rushing yards, although he did get a touchdown and 49 receiving yards that were part of the previously mentioned underneath routes.
DeMeco Ryans - I guess Rick Smith will not negotiate with Ryans for a new contract until after the season, even though Ryans increases his value every game.
Bernard Pollard - By far the best game he's played in a Texans uniform, and he was the most valuable player on defense. The dig on Pollard coming out of Kansas City was that he was a liability in coverage, but he helped disspell that notion with two interceptions, three pass deflections and nine tackles. Granted, one of the interceptions came off a terrible playcall involving a lame duck pass from Reggie Wayne. All the same, how silly do the Chiefs look for cutting this guy?
Glover Quin - Quin is playing extremely well, especially for a rookie. He is physical, which can get him into trouble sometimes, but I love the reckless abandon he plays with. Several of his 4 pass breakups were on pivotal plays which allowed the Texans defense to get off the field. Call me crazy, but I think that he's the best cornerback we have on the roster right now, followed by Jacques Reeves and then Dunta Robinson. Whether you agree with my order or not, I think it's hard to argue that Dunta deserves to make $10 million dollars this season.
Matt Schaub - Schaub seems to be developing a tendency to start games slowly. Not many people would have thought he was in for a 75% completion, 311 yard day after the first quarter. The second interception was caused by a hit, but the first was because Matt locked onto his receiver and then threw into triple coverage. The Texans have now been outscored 47 to 31 in the first quarter, which is partially because of Schaub's performance.
Andre Johnson - 10 catches for 103 yards on paper won't blow anyone's skirt up, but those catches were amazingly clutch. Johnson gets better when more is on the line. 4 of his 6 receptions in the second half were on third down and all of those produced first downs. Also, it speaks volumes that Schaub and Kubiak had the confidence in Johnson to throw to him on fourth and 1.
Jacoby Jones - Don't look now, but someone is becoming a wide receiver. I probably just jinxed him.
Duane Brown - Brown is much better than his rookie season, but Dwight Freeney showed him and us that he still has progress to be made.
Ryan Moats/Steve Slaton - Many of the offense's inabilities to sustain drives were due to lack of production in the running game. This wasn't completely Moats or Slaton's fault, although seeing both on the field in the same game made Moats appear as more of the one-cut back at this point. Slaton is more explosive in the open field and probably a better receiver, but the fumbles need to stop for more than one game where Slaton's splitting time before his starting role is given back.
Lastly, I have a huge bone to pick with the coaching staff. Without even seeing the replay, I was scared that Moats fumbled the ball before being down/going out of bounds and was screaming for Schaub to snap the ball. Watching him run out the clock until the two minute warning was like watching a scene in a bad horror movie when you know exactly what is coming and are powerless to stop it. I just don't understand how if a majority of fans watching in their living rooms can tell it might be a fumble, no one on the entire Texans coaching staff couldn't determine the same thing and made sure the next play was executed with haste. Although there are employees of the team charged with watching for the booth for challangeable plays, this ultimately falls on Kubiak's shoulders.
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all i had to do was skim down....
and i knew somewhere in your post would be a shot at dunta.
did dunta ASK to be paid 10 mil?
hell NO!
that’s exactly why he held out! so now he getz blamed for being franchised as well? smh…….
NEWS FLASH…
the reason that manning went to clark so much was because wayne WASN’T open. jeez……
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 1:44 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
No it's not Duntas fault
He is getting paid 10 Million, if he had his way it would have been alot more!!!
Not worth $10M or whatever the hell he wanted.
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by Texans-Brocos on Nov 9, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say it's not only hard...
But impossible to argue that Dunta Robinson is worth $10 million.
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by TexanKurt on Nov 9, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whatever the hell he wanted....
you have no clue what he asked for…
do you?
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lets just say
it was clearly more than 10Mil, I saw some posts that said he rejected about 25.
You can't fix Dumb
by Texans-Brocos on Nov 9, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think those were rumors.
Nobody really had a clue how much he wanted. It was between The Texans and Dunta and his agent.
by Jordann on Nov 9, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly.
and if you believe owners and coaches over players when it comes to contract negotiations…
i have a way for you to make 1 million dollars GUARANTEED. you see, my sick uncle from nigeria…..
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ya because players and agents NEVER try to use the media to better their deal /sarcasm
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and coaches and owners NEVER try and use the media to turn public opinion against a player.
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that doesnt take away from the retardness of your comment that we should believe players and agents over anyone else. The numbers are irrelevant, he hasnt turned out to be worth top5 money and the team calling his bluff turned out to be the right move.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
im not saying that.
what i am saying however, is that i won’t automatically turn away from a player because the media gets a whiff of contract negotiations that managements allowed to “leak.” im my OWN man… and i won’t go along cuz they say go along. and retardness is NOT a word. (that’s retarded.)
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You shouldn’t start a sentence with a conjunction either! BURN captain grammar! You shouldn’t hate Diva for the money, you should hate him for holding out all of camp knowing full well he wasn’t going to get a deal with the deadline come and gone. He only ended up hurting his team by not being in game form.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Either way
He wanted more than what he got from the Franchise tag, and I don’t think he is worth the franchise money.
You can't fix Dumb
by Texans-Brocos on Nov 9, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
23 Mil Guaranteed was offered
John McClain told me personally that number is “official” and not a rumor. FWIW
Rick Smith really got away with one when Dunta turned him down. Thank Durga he didn’t accept it!
by WhiskeyR on Nov 9, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The franchise tag was a brilliant move
by WhiskeyR on Nov 9, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish we could have traded him for a linemen and a pack of skittles instead of paying him though. Oh well.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so if he told you...
that he made out with a rockets power dancer and didn’t sleep with her would you believe that as well?
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Letting him walk would've been a brilliant move
But at least the damage was limited.
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by riversmccown on Nov 9, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hindsight
I hated the negotiation for Dunta, but the fact is that during this past offseason we had no idea how Quin or McCain would turn out.
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by Shake on Nov 9, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point Shake.
Now that we know Quinn is ready, I hope the Texans let Dan Snyder pay Dunta next season.
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by CFHTim on Nov 9, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well if you want to play this game...
The reason Manning went to Clark so much is because we had Eugene Wilson doubling Wayne all day, because we knew that Dunta couldn’t do it alone.
Your move.
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by riversmccown on Nov 9, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn.
I know you love you some D-Rob but you can’t get mad at Jake for putting Dunta as his CB1. I haven’t read the whole article, I was just gonna comment about the picture but when I saw your comment I just had to go to the Dunta part. You make it look like he’s bad mouthing him to the fullest. That’s his opinion. That’s what he sees. And I do agree with Jake. I saw Quinn making the plays and saw Dunta collecting penalties and getting burned by RW. But we all see what we wanna see right?
The reason Manning went to Clark because Clark was burning Cushing most of the time and there’s a smaller chance that the ball was gonna get intercepted. He went with the more efficient throw. That’s that. It wasn’t because D-rob was shutting down Wayne, it’s because there’s less chance that the ball is gonna get intercepted.
by Jordann on Nov 9, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
now jordann....
you know as well as i do, regardless if we win or lose, every fucking article that has been written on BRB every week takes a shot at dunta. just tired of it. the deaf dude from cincinatti gets a offsides penalty and a roughness call (conner was like thowwy coath! on the sidelines… but koob wasn’t trying to hear it) and hardly a mention. dunta holds wayne (who according to the colts, is the best) to NO TOUCHDOWNS. 7 catches…. 65 yds (if im not mistaken.)
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You did skim at the article.
And so did I. So I skimmed through it again and Jake does mention Barwin. And there’s really not a lot to say about him besides those two costly penalties.
7 catches for 65 yards. If you look at the stat line, it looks like he did a great job against Wayne. But was he playing him one on one the whole game without any safety help? When he was playing him one on one, I remember Wayne shaking Dunta off and he ran an in route. If it wasn’t for DeMeco, it wouldve been a completion. Yes, im aware that it was pass interference but it clearly showed there that Dunta was beat. The whole game Dunta had help from the safety or an LB. It wasn’t all him. He didn’t shut Wayne down by himself. The Texans had a game plan against him knowing that he’s one of the colt’s best offensive weapons. Thats why Wayne only finished with 7 for 65 with no TD’s.
by Jordann on Nov 9, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In my fanpost write up
I ripped on Barwin, shit I said if he doesn’t get his act together he will end up out of pro football
You can't fix Dumb
by Texans-Brocos on Nov 9, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Barwin's penalties yesterday were unexcusable.
What do you think when you see Dunta just fly by the ball carrier without touching him ? His best trait as a defender IMO used to be his tackling ability, he has regressed into a liability in the running game this season.
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by CFHTim on Nov 9, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Diva Robinson gets paid over $600,000 a game to grab a receiver he gets beat by. Every game.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris, I hate to be the one dropping this on you, but...
You look dumber with each and every post about that tool.
I’d advise a lip zip until hopefully (for your sake) Dunta proves you right, and all of us as complete fuckups. You’ve built a certain level of respect with most of us, so I’d hate for all that to wash down the drain with Dunta’s carreer.
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by beefy on Nov 9, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
see comment below...
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris
I don’t agree with your prospective but I like your sticking with it. I understand Dunta’s prospective and I would have taken the same approach I already knew (this summer what He knew this summer) that he had lost a step and would never have another chance at a big contract and therefor should do what ever it took to get as much money from the Texans as he could. In retrospect because of how much he had decined since before the injury he took the right apporach for himself, and he got 10 mill out of it. But he hasn’t preformed up to that level and will not get any more big money from the Texans and should feel lucky if he ends up getting it from any team after this season.
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by Texans-Brocos on Nov 9, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
make up your fucking mind.
is he an asshole for wanting a long term contract…
or is he an asshole for accepting 10 mil?
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
hes an asshole for holding out through camp and then sucking on the field. People are just stating hes not worth the 10mil, not that hes at fault for finally accepting it.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
last comment on the subject.
after which i aint got shit else to say about it…
It is better to debate a question without settling it than to settle a question without debating it.
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
42.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree about this
But we’re not really debating any more. Both sides are just re-stating our positions over and over. Which is why I don’t see much use in discussing this issue any further. Better to talk about just about anything else.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 10, 2009 7:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the merits of the 10 mil shouldn't even be argued.
because smithiak thought well enough to franchise him.
the guy only wanted to be paid what he (and his agent) felt he deserved.
DO ANY OF YOU KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THE NEGOTATIONS?!?!!?
didn’t think so. and i dont either. so instead of choosing to burn effigys of dunta cuz the media said so…
i look at the man.
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 1:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
very good writeup, I agree with most of what you said. Quin is looking like an absolute steal. Pollard has to be the midseason steal of the decade so far. I also would like to second your praise of Antonio Smith, I just dont get why people are bad mouthing him. He has been a HUGE upgrade on the line. If you rewatch the play where Mario gets a sack, Smith absolutely destroys his blocker and slams him to the ground. As far as the fumble play, I still cant see how Kubiak can be at fault. The man cant make a move if he doesnt know something happened. He is on the opposite side of the field, someone in the booth really screwed us there. Ultimately that didnt cost us the game, I mean we had a lead in the 4th quarter, so we had the game in hand, we just couldnt get down the field and score points after that Pollard pick, and I think THAT was the important part of the game there. Putting it away in the clutch.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 2:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
That the Moats fumble didn’t cost us the game, but it was so f’n agonizing to see it all happening and know that it was going to be Indy’s ball, instead of us having 1st and goal from the 2. All we had to do was snap the ball.
But you’re right, it didn’t cost us the game.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Nov 9, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the part during that play that really got me, was them not getting it on the 1 yard line, no the ref hooked them up even more and moved it up to the 20!
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Schaub getting off to a slow start is not acceptable
He looked nervous until the last posession of the 1st half, held on to the ball too long a few times, and as you noted the 1st INT was a really bad decision( locking in on Dre and forcing the ball into triple coverage). He repeated that same mistake in the 4th quarter. Looked like the exact same pattern and coverage, and was very fortunate that the Colts’ DB dropped what was a sure INT.
Fully agree that the indecision after Moats bobble near the goal line is all on Kubiak. Yes it looked like the ball should have rolled out of bounds, but like you, me and many others, (the Chron reported that) Texan players on the sidelines were yelling to run another play before the 2:00 warning. Kubiak froze and it cost us a sure 3 and a chance at 7.
Major props to the D for limiting the Colts to 13 in the 1st half, when the offense was doing absolutely nothing. Defending Peyton’s no-huddle is extremely difficult and tiring. That compounded by the offense having it’s worst 1st half since the Jets game, which left the D on the field for about 20 of the 1st 25 minutes, makes it even more spectacular that we were not blown out in the 1st half. The D keeps improving, and that keeps hope alive that we still may be able to play some meaningful games in December.
The bye week will help us heal and refocus for the 2nd half. I fully expect us to have a + 2nd half, a winning season, and with a little luck a Wildcard spot.
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by oiler-texan diehard on Nov 9, 2009 2:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Please post this chron link that says players were yelling on the sidelines to run a play. Thats sounds like total bullshit to me.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll Have To Hunt For It
But I believe Dunta said something to the same effect.
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by Tim on Nov 9, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cunta quote
by Xetuoh on Nov 9, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the link. It should also be said what Kubiak got from the press box, (coach Gary Kubiak said. "Someone (an assistant coach) in the press box said, ‘I think they’re looking at where the ball was.’ We thought it was out of bounds.") That sounds to me like Kubiak got fucked by an idiot in the box. I wish they would name him.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's really disturbing that we the fans can see what Kube's staffers upstairs cannot
The 1st replay shown clearly showed that the ball stayed inbounds and we should have gone hurry-up.
In Kube’s defense I did not see the Colts players doing anything unusual after the refs spotted the ball for 2nd down. Kube’s may have thought that if the Colts players were not protesting then we were OK. That still does not excuse the guys upstairs who completely let us down. That’s the kind of shit that makes me absolutely crazy. The team works too hard to have some twit upstairs fall asleep at the wheel.
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by oiler-texan diehard on Nov 9, 2009 5:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto on Glover Quinn!
Quinn is developing quickly and he is talented. I think he has a good burst to get back into a play when he needs to and he has extremely good field/ball awareness. I like this guy.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Nov 9, 2009 2:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
about the moats fumble....
koob said they had NO idea that he even fumbled. HELL MOATS KNEW! shit! if i was moats, i would have been screaming at shaubby, the coaches, WHOEVER to run the play.
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
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by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Moats was probably hoping it went unnoticed since the ref blew the whistle so he wouldnt look like a bigger asshole than he already was. Honestly Moats alone is to blame.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And the hits keep coming from you, Goat!
Thank you for saying that about Moats.
Dude, are you inside my head? You want me to stick a cheeseball into my ear for you?
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by beefy on Nov 9, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was saying all last week...
that Steve Slaton should start. Do we all remember the huge runs he broke on the Colts last year??!! We needed those yesterday. And we needed the ball at the 1 yard line too, Ryan Moats!! Steve Slaton should have had the ball on that play, and the bulk of the carries throughout the game.
So Steve Slaton isn’t the starter anymore, Kubiak?! Because thats what starting Ryan Moats yesterday says. Steve Slaton is the better running back by far on the Texans and should be starting. He got pulled against the Bills, but that was THAT GAME. Is Ryan Moats going to lose the starting job now that he is fumbling the game away too?? Is Chris Brown going to start next?!
All Kubiak ever says is, “Steve’s our guy”. Then he goes and starts Moats!! Why?!! Im not saying Moats shouldn’t get carries, but if the Texans are as good as we’re expecting them to be, then Slaton needs to be on the field as much as possible. He’ll get over the fumbling. Remember he’s just a sophomore.
And Kris Brown… That last kick of the game was never between the uprights. It had no chance. Major FAIL
by BdoFiFtY81 on Nov 9, 2009 2:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great job
Monday morning coach. Moats fumbled but is still running better than Slaton. Slaton was great last year aginst the and almost every other team but that’s not what he has done AT ALL this year. He’s good but Moats is showing better RB skills at this point in the season than Slaton. You blame Koobs for taking out a guy that’s fumbled 8 TIMES THIS YEAR and doesn’t have a single 100 yard game yet and they pull him one game and the back up puts up more rushing TD’s in one quarter than SS has all year and you think it was dumb move by Koobs. What would you say if Slaton had fumbled again in that same position. Coulda, woulda, shoulda…“He’ll get over the fumbling, remeber he’s still a sophmore” half way through the season and he still hasn’t and what freakin difference does it make if he’s in his second or forth or fifth??? All our RB’s have put the ball down on the ground at horrible times but right now you need to go with who is running the ball better and that is Moats.
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by Bobobigbro on Nov 9, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wait so Moats 2.3 YPC against the Colts is “running better than Slaton” Moats gave the ball up too, so what does he offer us now that Slaton doesnt? What shit are you smoking and can you share?
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The good stuff.
But come on Goat, look at the replays and look at teh difference in the ways they both hit the holes. Schaub averaged 7 yards/carry so maybe we should start him at RB instead. Moats did give up the ball and it was bad – I will give you point all day long, no excusses.
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by Bobobigbro on Nov 9, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the game, Moats got hit in the backfield just like Slaton does. The fault has been the entire time on the offensive lines failures in run blocking, NOT on who is running the ball. Slaton is quicker and more explosive than Moats, if Moats cant hold on to the ball either, then he offers us nothing that Slaton cant do better.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When did people started going crazy and started thinking that Moats is a better back?
Yeah I agree that Slaton should be benched for now because he’s been fumbling but he’s still our RB1.
Moats have been a career back up for a reason. Because he just doesn’t have the talent to be a featured back! He couldn’t even beat Corell Buckhalter for the back up job!
COME ON GUYS!
by Jordann on Nov 9, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
rec’d. I dont know how anyone can honestly say Moats is a better running back.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess were just arguing
which back is less bad this year. And yes Goat I agree about the oline point you made – you’re right on about that but what scared me is that we have built our line to be that way over the last couple of years which has to leave you wondering about how we can turn it around this year and for the years to come. I like Duane Brown but did you see how he got blow up almost all day and he is our best lineman. They are OK in pass rush blocking but the run blocking leaves everything to be desired.
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by Bobobigbro on Nov 9, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Best Lineman.
Brown is still in his sophomore year. He’s not our best lineman. That belongs to Caveman. Brown can still improve. And he will.
by Jordann on Nov 9, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who is the caveman?
Winston?
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by Bobobigbro on Nov 9, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yessir.
Or Winstonsaurus. Whichever you prefer.
by Jordann on Nov 9, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
I’ll give you that one but Brown has to be a close second – although I’m not exactly sure what that’s saying. I’m also ready to put Caldwell at center. I don’t care if he’s practiced that position all year, it has to be an instant upgrade over Myers but hell I could be wrong again.
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by Bobobigbro on Nov 9, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it could be worse, and he has a chance to get better. Would White be able to hold up as a starter?
by nolander on Nov 9, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Would White be able to hold up as a starter?"
I don’t think he could be any worse at holding up as a starter than Myers no matter what o-line position he plays. I can’t remeber but hasn’t it been Myers that has allowed the blocked field goals this year. I think we’ve had something like 3 FG blocked and it always seemed to come opposite of Myers.
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by Bobobigbro on Nov 9, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the staff is scared with the whole continuity thing. 100 percent turnover in the interior of the line mid season could be a disaster. that said, I don’t think it gets much worse.
by nolander on Nov 9, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But what if that could spark the running game ?
I would get Caldwell the snaps at center while we have the bye week to adjust.
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by CFHTim on Nov 9, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I’m just trying to see it from Kubes perspective. Myers has very little business starting in this league. Its time to make the change.
by nolander on Nov 9, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and the last sentence in your post
means what? We all watched the game and realized we lost by 3 and that he kicked the ball wide left. It had no chance? He just kicked the ball and freaking missed and I’m pissed but it happens from time to time.
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by Bobobigbro on Nov 9, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think Tim said last week....
that both sides were firmly entrenched, and i tend to agree. but what KILLS me, is that when dunta does make a great play, you don’t see us jumping up and down screaming how great he is. but what we see is regardless of the outcome of the game, all we hear is “fuck dunta” this and “fuck dunta” that. you all are gonna be sick as SHIT when he signs that long term deal. and when it happens… i’ll find this post, and repost it.
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
http://www.twitter.com/doobieman21
by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 3:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What great play? The one where he got called for PI again?
by nolander on Nov 9, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Put down the crack pipe
If Dunta does sign a look term deal and gets paid, good for him…BUT it won’t be for the Texans.
No way does Bob McNair allow Dunta to be re-signed after he embarrassed this team. No freaking way.
Plus, we’re going to have to deal with contracts of players who are MUCH more valuable than Dunta: Schaub, OD, Demeco. AND, we are going to have to wrap up Pollard with some decent cash as well.
Trust me, McNair will have to trim payroll, and Dunta is an easy $10 million we could dump. And if we get a draft pick out of the deal, all the better.
by footballfan412 on Nov 9, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
excuse me?
lmao @ all these guys with “inside” information.
are you bob mcnair’s towel boy? how do you know we won’t?
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
http://www.twitter.com/doobieman21
by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I wouldn’t mind being McNair’s towel boy.
He’s an awesome guy.
And I would take my payments in the form of Texan’s season tickets LOL
by Jordann on Nov 9, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bobby likes a tight ass.
and i hear yours is tore up!
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
http://www.twitter.com/doobieman21
by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does that mean?
If he’s released, you’ll post this on another board “if” he makes a play or just here?
by Xetuoh on Nov 9, 2009 3:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No.
He’ll just simply remind you how Dunta was a good CB when you’re gripping about Bennett in coverage next year. Dunta, Quinn and Reevse is a hell of better combination than Bennet Quinn and Reeves or some crap shoot draft pick next year.
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by Bobobigbro on Nov 9, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we’ll be gripping about Quin and Reeves, Bennett wont be in there.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO! That was a good one and true.
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by Bobobigbro on Nov 9, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me clarify..
I don’t care for Dunta! But, I do admire Chris21 for saying what he believes and believeing what he says. Sticking to your guns is a noble thing and although I disagree, his passion for this is unmistakeable.
by Xetuoh on Nov 9, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this
No problem with Chris defending Dunta even though I disagree.
I’m just getting really tired of this particular discussion since both sides seem so firmly entrenched.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 10, 2009 7:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t mind bringing back dunta as a #2 or nickle, but he isn’t a number one.
by nolander on Nov 9, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok in regard to dunta
The 10 mill was on the texans. Period
this year. Dunta has played like an average corner. He has potential to still be better
FACT. He is the Best corner on the team. Period
until the seaon is over he is on OUR team and we NEED him
he did not " shutdown" Wayne, but played a big part in holding PEYTON FUCKING Manning to 20 points
I think chris is trying to say get off the guys back for the rest of the year. He most likely won’t be a Texan anyway so save your hate for when he signs with the fucking titans or cowgirls or some other bullshit
by AllenOU on Nov 9, 2009 3:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
him being the best corner is your opinion genius, not a fact.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
let's not try to use personal attacks there buddy.
I know that Tim is the most awesome moderator ever but let’s not forget that there are still rules here. We can cuss all day but personal attacks do merit you a warning.
Im not a mod or whatever, I just dont want use to lose our freedom of speech or anything because we abuse.
by Jordann on Nov 9, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what personal attack?
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was suffering to you complimenting him on his geniousity.
by nolander on Nov 9, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of....
whether Robinson’s worth 10mil or 100mil, I was glad to see our secondary hit for once. Pollard put the wood to the Colts on several occasions, and Eugene Wilson planted Dallas Clark after one catch that I noticed. Very good to see that.
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by Southern Lion on Nov 9, 2009 3:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
something we can agree on.
the defense was in full “snot bubble” mode yesterday.
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
http://www.twitter.com/doobieman21
by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
my point is.....
stop making the guy out to be an ass. he isn’t TO, he isn’t pacman jones, so STOP villifying the guy over a contract dispute. when you don’t have all the facts, and you just go out and start screaming fuck dunta, what happens next year when OD gets franchised? or meco? are you gonna be hollering fuck meco or fuck daniels? just wondering.
if you're hating on dunta... ask yourself. are you upset that YOU aren't worth 10 million dollars?
http://www.twitter.com/doobieman21
by chrisd21 on Nov 9, 2009 4:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well will Meco or Daniels write Pay Me Rick on their shoes and then sound like they don’t even want to be there? Sorry but Dunta made his bed and now is being forced to lie in it.
by nolander on Nov 9, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
People weren't screaming
Fuck Dunta because he was franchise tagged. It was because of all the BS that he put that team in. All that holding out for a better contract. Not signing the tender. Skipping the training camp and the pre-season. It was because of that.
If OD or Meco get’s franchised next year and they hold out for a better contract, I would be in support of them. More support for Meco than OD though. They both deserve a better contract and if they hold out for it, I wont hold it against them.
by Jordann on Nov 9, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
Are they gonna play like franchise players?
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by riversmccown on Nov 9, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Cunta is our point of reference for an answer, then
Absolutely not. They’ll play like they’re the 3rd or 4th best at their position on the team, while crying about disrespect shown to them.
Can you imagine OD and Demeco’s level of play falling behind that of Anthony Hill and Buster Davis?
Awesome.
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by beefy on Nov 9, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Couple of issues...
Great writeup, but as I’ve stated in other threads, I have my issues with blaming Kubes for the non-hurry play to avoid the fumble review. Moats shouldn’t have fumbled, then he should’ve said something about its possibility, and the guy upstairs should’ve known the play was questionable.
And re: Duane Brown
I thought he did a pretty admirable job against Freeney. The first sack was Schaub’s fault for holding the ball way too long. I said it last week, but Matt’s WAY too comfortable behind this line, and it’s gonna burn him. The second one was a bull-rush, which obviously took Brown by surprise. Still should’ve blocked it, so bad on him, but otherwise he played pretty well against a certified badass.
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by beefy on Nov 9, 2009 4:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to agree with you re: Brown
I may have come off as too negative because I think that Brown has made huge strides this year vs. last year. I think that showing up for camp in shape has made an enormous difference for him. Freeney did make hm look silly on that bull rush though.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Nov 9, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we only gave up 2 sacks. Its not like someone was in Matt’s face every play. I think Brown has done very well.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 9, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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