Bob McNair, "Right Now I Have A Coach"
Interesting language from McNair. Kubiak is obviously coaching for his job, although it is up for debate how many games he has to win to save his job.
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And so it begins
If he wants to save it, I think 3 will do the trick. McNair won’t fire him unless he has a losing season in my view.
Three seems too doable.
I’d like to see him back, but I want to see him win at least one game that isn’t a gimme. Jacksonville would be a nice start… I don’t think 1-5 within the division warrants bringing him back.
Anyways, something to ease the pain:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/placekicker_using_practice
If it wasn't the Onion...
…I’d totally believe it.
"Because you cant read. Get lost looser." - Mcnair2VY
I don't think I would.
The past few weeks don’t really suggest that KB has been practicing all that much. Oh, the memories…
TEXANBYHEART
HEY IM A BIG TEXAN FAN AND THAT GAME AGINS THE COLTS DID SHOW THAT KUBIAK AND HIS OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR DID NOT MAKE GOOD CALLS WHEN THEY NEEDED TO. THEY DID NOT ADJUST TO THE RUNNING GAME IN THE SECOND HALF EITHER I DEFFINETLY THINK THAT!! EXCEPT FOR THAT PIC SIX WHICH WAS READ WONDERFULLY BY THE D THEY DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB>> I MEAN WHEN THEY THEY START PULLING CUSHING FROM THE SCRIMMAGE LINE BY HAVING THEIR TIGHT END RUB HIS ROUTE EVEN ON A RUN WILL LIMIT THE TEXANS TO STOP THE RUN. COACHING IN MY MIND IS A PROBLEM CUS TWO 500 SEASONS IS NOT GOOD FOR A PLAYOFF CALIBER TEAM N DONT BLAME SHAUB HE HAS NO RUNNING GAME WHATSO EVER THEY NEED A PLAYMAKER IN THE BACKFIELD WHO DOESNT FUMBLE!! BILL COWHER SAID HOUSTO IS A VRY ATTRACTIVE TEAM TO COME COACH HE MADE STEELERS A GREAT TEAM AND THEY DIDNT HAVE THE TALENT HOUSTON HAD SO I REALLY DO THINK KUBIACKS TIME IS UP IN HOUSTON
by TEXANBYHEART on Dec 6, 2009 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
Kubiak must go
I’ve been in his corner since he arrived, but he lost me Sunday. We’re up 17-7, it’s 3rd and 1 at the Indy 15 yd line with about 1:30 left in the half . The running game was working as well as if not better than it had all season. This is 2 down territory. Field goals don’t beat the Colts. The 3rd down call was a fiasco. Schaub throws into the end zone while Dre breaks off the pattern. Even if that play worked, IMO it was the wrong call. We were wearing the Colts down but let them off the hook. The running play kills clock, or forces the Colts to take a TO. Kubiak is still flunking clock management 101, allowing Manning a decent chance to put up points before the half. That FG gave me a very uneasy feeling even though I did not recognize it for what it was…the beginning of the end; of that game and I hope Kubiak’s tenure as well. I do not see that he has significantly improved in his tenure as Texans’ HC. Four years is long enough for him to show what he can do. I am not impressed. We deserve better.
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by oiler-texan diehard on Dec 1, 2009 8:33 PM CST reply actions
man McNair says some things that have been following my thoughts exactly on how people like to blame a central figure. Gary is by no means blameless but I blame guys like Kris Brown, Slaton, Chris Brown, and Matt Schaub more than Gary Kubiak. Heres a pair of excellent Mcnair quotes:
"The coaches responsibility is to get the players ready," McNair said. "I think they’ve done that. Opposing teams haven’t been doing things we haven’t prepared for. There haven’t been surprises."
"The players have to perform on the field. They have to develop that consistency. The coaches can’t run, catch, throw and tackle. They’re not in the huddle. That’s on the players. Players know that."
Man thats my thoughts exactly. The fact that we have been in every game besides the Jets game makes me feel the coaches had the players prepared. The players are letting the team down. I think Gary as the central leader is going to have to find a way to make them play better, because they are failing to do it on their own. If he doesnt last as coach here, I personally think alot of it wont be his fault ultimately. His players have let him down.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
Uh, no.
A friend of mine, who lives a thousand miles away and is very knowledge about sports had the following conversation yesterday.
Friend: “You guys may want to keep Kubiak. It may not all be his fault.”
Me: “How so?”
Friend: “The players bear some responsibility to. Look at Kris Brown. He missed those two kicks, costing you guys those two games. That’s on him.”
Me: “Ok, the same thing went down in Baltimore. What did Baltimore do? They cut their kicker and brought in new ones. Same thing in Atlanta. They started auditioning kickers after their kicker blew a game.”
Friend: “Right. That’s a good idea.”
Me: “But, that’s the thing. Gary has said point blank that Kris is his kicker and that he refused to even bring in any other kickers to even try out.”
Long pause.
Friend; “Oh hell no. He’s an idiot. He’s gotta go.”
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, well... I'm sure convinced now!
And if Schaub throws another goddamn incompletion, his ass is gone too!
Seriously, though… your friend sucks.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Dec 2, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Actually...
…you suck, because you totally missed the point.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
So he has to go
Because he’s showing faith in a player that until very recently has been extremely reliable for us? Players have bad games, even bad stretches of games, but if you look at the whole Brown has been a very good kicker for us. It would be silly to try out kickers that couldn’t make the cut from other teams in the preseason just because Brown missed a few. What are the odds you get something better?
No
He has to go because he’s not even considering alternatives. Yes, Chris has been good for us, but he has blown two key games. Kubiak didn’t even CONSIDER trying out other kickers.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Two key games.
Im too damn lazy to look it up but I know that Kris Brown has won more than 2 games for us.
Well, sure
He’s been money for us for 8 years. But we’ve also been bad for 8 years. This is the first year the team was expected to really compete. There was a lot of pressure on these guys from the get go. Kris has never faced that kind of pressure before on this team.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
PRESSURE???
THATS WHY THEY R PROFESSIONALS TO TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO TO COMPETE!! ALTHOUGH ITS NOT HIS FAULT COACHING HAS COME UP WITH VERY BAD CALLS THAT HAVE COST US GAMES TO!!!!
by TEXANBYHEART on Dec 6, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
How do you know what he CONSIDERED?
Maybe be did CONSIDER it, but like Bryan illustrated, he realized it was stupid.
Were you having beers with Al Del Greco, and he was talking about he’s being doing nothing but working out, and kicking the best he has in his life, wondering… waiting for some coach out there to CONSIDER calling him for a tryout?
Or was it that you were just wanting to get pissed about something and blame the coach for it?
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Dec 2, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
For Al Del Shanko reference.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
Best player in NFL History.
I won’t hear anything else of it.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Sorry, skimmed your message. Just read your last sentence.
“What are the odds you get something better?”
Sorry, man, but this attitude drives me crazy. “We can’t make a move, we have to accept middle of the road becuase, what if we can’t do any better or get someone better? Better not change a thing.”
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
I really hope you're being sarcastic.
By the way, is your friend’s name Bill? Lemme take another gander. And his last name is Cowher?
Because if it is, you shouldn’t listen to him. He’s been campaigning very hard to get Kubiak fired. Even poisoning the minds of numerous Texans Bloggers and SBnation commenters.
Just ignore him and you’ll be fine.
COWHER
WELL I BELIEVE COWHER SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE IN TEXANS I MEAN BESIDES THE HOUSTON DYNAMO!! HOUSTON HAS NOTHING BUT MEDIOCRICY IN SPORTS YES THE ROCKETS MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS BUT WHAT THEY LOST!! THE TEXANS ARE BETTER THAN AN 8-8 SEASON
by TEXANBYHEART on Dec 6, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
yes we should def. cut a guy we just signed to a new fat contact a couple months ago who isnt exactly old for a kicker yet! Im just as mad at Brown as anyone else but theres financial issues and available talent to take into consideration. And if not cutting a kicker mid season is your evidence that Kubiak is a bad coach then all I can do is laugh.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
Sigh.
Never mind. You guys don’t see it.
This kicker cost us two games, and, it turns out, can’t perform in clutch situations. There’s a reason Pittsburg cut him.
I like Kris, but he’s lost his touch a bit.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
And there's a reason why the texans stuck with him since the inception.
Because he has the ability to get the job done. I’ve never heard of a kicker that never missed a field goal.
also to further disprove your argument, when Chris Brown fumbled, he barely saw a carry again for a month. When Slaton kept fumbling, he got benched repeatedly, and then outright replaced in the lineup. When Barber and then again Busing busted a play, they got outright replaced for the season. Kubiak has shown he will make a move against personnel when its justified.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
To add to this.
Having faith in a player pays off. Look at Jacob.(fuck, now he’s gonna start muffing punts again) He had the tendency to muff every punt and kubiak stuck with him, And it paid off. He understood that the problem can be fixed and took the time to fix it and it worked.
and to think most of the fans wanted to cut Jacoby in training camp.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
put me in that crowd.
I loved him, but I didn’t figure he’d ever get it figured out.
Glad to be wrong. Unlike footballfan.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
LOL
I like being wrong. I didn’t think Jacoby had it in him, either.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
looks to me that you are the only one not getting it. So if Kris sucks and theres a reason Pittsburgh “cut” him, I take it you have been here for the last 7 years backing up how bad he sucks? Or I guess Pittsburgh saw into the future and said, “hey guys in 7 years this guy is gonna start sucking, lets cut him now.”
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
No
I think Pittsburg cut him because they felt he wasn’t getting the job done when they needed him to.
I used Kris’ situation as an example of Kubiak’s spotty decision making. I am not saying he’s a bad coach JUST because of that one decision.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
And the Texans think that he can get the job done.
Is there anything wrong with that? Is it a bad decision? We dont know that yet. So your use of Kris brown as an example of Kubiak’s spotty decision making is considered a fail.
If you’re talking about clock management and challenges, I would have to agree with you.
Yes
yes, I am also taking about clock management and challenges, David Carr. That’s the point I was trying to make. I’m talking about Kubiak’s whole deal.
I like Kris Brown. I just don’t think it would have killed us to bring in a couple of other kickers like Baltimore and Atlanta did.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
But you're not.
You never even brought it up until I said something about it Charley Casserly and Dom Caper’s love child. That wasn’t the point you were trying to make. You were talking about firing Kubiak because Kris Brown wasn’t cut. That’s what spawned this whole conversation. You imaginary conversation with your fake friend from a 1000 miles away.
so not cutting a kicker who is on a fat new contract and has been one of your most reliable kickers until recently is spotty decision making? Not to mention its not his decision alone.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
I hate fans with a short memory.
During the Dom Capers/Charley Casserly era, our team wasn’t even near competitive. They tried hard, but a win for us was a fluke and losing was the norm. When scoring a touchdown felt like winning the super bowl, our offense heavily relied on field goals to keep us in the game. Talk about performing under pressure. Kris Brown is capable. Football players go through slumps. And the last time I checked, kickers are considered football players also.
FORGET BROWN
LOOK IF WE COULD ACTUALLY FINISH A DAMN GAME N HAVE COMPETENT GAMCALLING AND CLOCK MANAGEMENT WE WOULDNT HAVE TO RELY ON A KICKER EVERY ONE HAS BAD GAMES EVEN STREAKS BUT DECICSION WISE IT SHOULDN BE LIKE THAT
by TEXANBYHEART on Dec 6, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Like I told you at the game last Sunday, Tim
I don’t think McNair has the stones to fire Kubiak.
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He's a gazillionaire. He has the stones to fire anyone. You don't get where he is by not being willing to cut bait.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 2, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
Well, unless your dad is Bill Gates or something.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 2, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
Kubiak has a year left on his contract, I can really see McNair waiting out the final year regardless if we finish with a winning record or not this season, if anything because Kubiak and Smith combine their minds for a pretty nice draft board if the last few years is any indication.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
Agree
I think a lot of us are fooled by McNair’s “nice guy” thing. I’m sure he’s a nice guy, but, we also have to remember you can’t get to his level w/out having some stone balls and a cutthroat nature.
This decision is probably peanuts compared to decisions he’s had to make in the past.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
LOL
Oh, so you’re a billionare like McNair?
It’s the truth: it takes a lot of tenacity and smarts to build wealth like he has. He has sure made some big decisions. This is not that big of a deal for him.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
What?
No, i’m not. But what the hell does that have to do with anything? You saying it’s easy to build that kind of wealth?
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
It has to do with everything.
If you’re not a billionaire, how do you know that it takes a lot of tenacity, smart, stone ball and cuththroat nature to become a billionaire.
Wow
Ok. It’s easy to become a billionare then. You win.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
Reading Comprehension Fail
Never have I said anywhere that it’s easy to become a billionaire.
You lose.
Let me help.
The gentleman I work for started a company when he was 24. He built it up to $3.8B (as in BILLION) in Revenue then sold it for cash. He nows owns stakes in 40 companies around the world and is essentially into venture capital.
He is also one of the nicest and most responisble businessmen i have ever met. Gives huge chunks of his wealth to charity and goes on mission trips personally to help the impoverished.
A few weeks ago he fired his best friend because he “wasn’t getting the job done.”
If you think McNair is a “nice guy” without the balls to fire Kubiak, you are insane.
NEVER confuse the label “a nice guy” (which in business only ever means he can be TRUSTED) with the meaning “weak”.
McNair is a nice guy in that he is honorable and not a shyster. He will make a tough business decision if he needs to, because THATS WHAT HE DOES.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 2, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
That was my point
I agreed with Texansforever.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, so you’re a billionare like McNair?
If you yourself are not a billionaire I doubt you are in a better position to make that judgment.
Actually
Texansforever brought it up. I agreed with him.
You guys think McNairs a dumbass. I do not.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
Im fairly certain its not McNair they were thinking is a dumbass.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
That’s funny. Whatever, man. Call me names. I don’t care. A dumbass is someone who thinks that becoming a billionare is easy.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Nobody called you names.
Nobody said becoming billionaire was easy.
DaGoat implied that we were thinking someone is a dumbass.
Why do you think that it’s you?
Once again. Reading Comprehension Fail.
Nobody here thinks that McNair is a dumbass. Nobody said that McNair is a dumb ass.
NO NO NO
Use critical thinking and reading comprehension. YOU brought up the fact that Jordann not being a billionaire as an argument. I then asked if you were a billionaire, allowing YOU yourself to avoid having the exact same argument turned around on YOU. Becuase if not its like being fat and ugly and using someone being fat and ugly as a reason why a girl should pick you over someone else.
And
If you don’t think McNair considers the Texans a business, you are kidding yourself.
I’ve been a season ticket holder for five years, and several friends of mine have been ticket holders since Day 1. If this team does not move forward, there will be repercussions.
Bob knows this.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
i might sell my PSLs
and this is the first time i really mean it
thats all the ’"fan" can really do, you know
You know what?
My buddy who has been a PSL holder since day one has his name on that glass wall is seriously thinking about giving up this year. He’s really bummed out. I’ve never seen him so down on the team, and he’s mr rah rah.
If this team is losing fans like my friend, its in trouble.
I’m on the fence. I may sell my PSL this year. Haven’t decided.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
I will never give up.
How will your friend feel when the Texans are finally good ?
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
Not necessarily
I think he’ll always be a fan. He’s pretty hard core. But you can be a fan w/out spending a ton of money on the team every year.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
This is such a silly thing to debate.
I am a fan of the United States of America.
However, I think our President is a DOUCHEBAG.
When we get a President in there that isn’t a complete retard, I will be a supporter of that guy.
None of that makes me less of a fan of my country.
Same thing applies to my team.
I will ALWAYS be a fen of my hometown team.
I will NOT always be a fan of my hometown coaches and players if I think they are not the right people.
None of that makes me les of a Texans fan.
Why do people even argue this stuff?
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 2, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Agree
As I said, my buddy giving up his tickets won’t make him less of a fan.
The people running the Texans drive me crazy, but I’ve developed an intense attachment to the team.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Stick to your guns this time, though?
You will always be a fen of your hometown team… until you feel the need to publicly trash them, give up on them, and say you won’t watch them.
You’re an oak, man. Solid.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
In a way, that's what fans do
Seriously, that’s part of the roller coaster. They do something dumb, we get upset and yell and scream and threaten to never renew our tickets.
They turn it around and we start to rethink things.
That’s just how fans are. All fans.
I know someone who is ALWAYS dogging the Texans, and yet he’s 10 times the fan than I am. Dude is intense.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
You seem to live in a zero sum world.
A fan can choose to be frustrated with his team and give up on their chances at any time he wishes.
That doesn’t mean he or she is suddenly no longer a fan of the team. It means they are frustrated with the team and don’t see them going anywhere.
They don’t suddenly switch allegiance to another team.
The absurdity, short-sightedness and complete lack of comprehension on your part is par for the course.
Your posts are ignorant tripe full of personal attacks and comments that serve to inflate what is obviously a very insecure ego.
And attacking spelling on the internet is the last resort of those with no other means of supporting their argument.
/golf clap
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 2, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
I know it doesn't mean that...
But will you PLEASE switch allegiance to another team?
I can pay.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
I doubt that.
Burger King doesn’t pay enough for what you would need to give me.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 2, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
And obviously you DON'T know that because you said as much in the post I responded to.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 2, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Careful
David Carr is about to hit you with a “Reading comprehension fail” response.
LOL.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
Nah, Jordann's a good guy.
Beefy on the other hand……lol.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 2, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
I sense that Jordann is cool. But I don’t understand his reasoning. You clarified a point I was trying to make, and I said thanks, that’s my point.
He responded with: “That’s not your point. Just because you read something doesn’t make it your point.”
WTF?
Oh well. We’re all intense sports fans.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
It's not really my fault
That the public education system failed you as a child.
It feels like im talking to a Niner’s fan.
TF know’s what im talking about.
Yeah
That’s what I was trying to tell him. I think he’ll keep his tickets. He knows we’re close.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
McNair didn't get to be where he is by being nice.
He is a business man and I’m sure he has fired hundreds of people throughout his lifetime.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
Why are we arguing THIS, is what I'm wondering.
Who gives a fuck if he’s ever fired anyone?
He fired Capers and Casserly, and got us a good coach and GM. That’s all we need to know.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Good point
Some people said that he wouldn’t have the balls to fire Kubiak. It’s not true. Clearly he has fired people before. That’s where the conversation started from.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
HE BETTER GET EM QUICK CUS KUBIAK IS WQASTING HIS MONEY I VOT COWHER FOR HC
by TEXANBYHEART on Dec 6, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
kris brown missed 14 kicks including xp's
in his last season in pitt. thats why they cut him.
he is turning into brad lidge, and his own leg is his albert puhols.
might have to SERIOUSLY look at kickers, but AFTER the year
Damn
I didn’t know that. Sounds like he had a bad year in Pittsburg. No wonder they cut him.
Yeah, I’ll give him the rest of the season. But, we need to give some thought to a back up kicker during the offseason.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
It was the first year in Heinz Field, a notoriously shitty place to kick. 14 is still pretty atrocious though.
Im still thinking that we can attribute a little bit of blame to dressen
Maybe the snaps are whats throwing the timing off the kick?
If the blame is on Dreessen for bad snaps...
then why is he still snapping? If Dreessen is a bad long snapper, but still our long snapper, than that falls squarely on Kubiak for not doing something about it.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
ATROCIOUS THATS TERRIBLE BUT HE HAS DONE GOOD WITH US EXCEPT FOR THOSE TWO
by TEXANBYHEART on Dec 6, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Right...
because we’ve got so much talent on this team that we can afford to just throw away roster spots on backup kickers.
And as I’m typing this, pictures of John Busing, Brian Russell, Jeff Zgonina, and Cunta Rob… inson float through the cerebral cortex. Shit, maybe we CAN afford a roster spot afterall.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Dude
I am astonished that a person with David Carr as their avatar constantly attacks other posters. Un-freaking-believable.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Constantly attacks other posters?
If you’re feeling attacked, I apologize. But all im doing is refuting your points. Debating the subject that’s being discussed. Pointing out flaws in your arguments and holes in your logic. If you’re offended by that, there’s nothing I can do. This is a blog where people discuss topics related to The Texans and if you’re hoping for people to agree with you all the time when you bring up a subject, then you’re in the wrong place buddy.
am I the only one who thinks it looks like David Hasselhoff if you lean back in your chair?
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
I see the resemblance.
But whenever I see a picture of Mittens, it’s automatically replaced by an image of him wearing neon colored gloved while assuming the fetal position.
Is your cat making too much noise all the time?
Is your cat constantly stomping around driving you crazy? Is your cat clawing at your furnitures? Think there’s no answer? You’re so stupid! There is! Kitten Mittons!
by Jordann on Dec 2, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Uh no
I’m not expecting people to agree with me all of the time. I like a good debate, especially about sports. But, you seem upset because I’m disagreeing with you about Kubiak. You and several others love him and what him to stay. That’s fine.
I’m not sure I agree. The Kris Brown example was just ONE example I was trying to point out, and you took it out of context. And, you guys really think that becoming a billionaire is simple. That’s cool. I do not.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
I seem upset because im choosing to stick to my guns and disagree with you?
I took it out of context? THAT WAS THE ONLY POINT YOU MADE! You said Kubiak not cutting Kris Brown should get him fired because your friend from a thousand miles away said so. I even brought up the poor clock management and poor challenges by Kubiak and said that those are acceptable reasons why Kubiak should get fired. You never even touched on those subjects.
And why do you keep saying that we think becoming a billionaire is simple. I haven’t seen a single poster saying that it’s easy. Nobody even implied it was easy. Complete reading comprehension fail.
I'm not a moron. You are the one who isn't comprehending
I agreed totally with you about the clock management issues. And his record on challenges is disgraceful. When I heard during the offseason that Kubiak had never won a challenge, I thought it was a joke. There is no debating his clock management and challege issues. They’re horrible. We all agree on that.
It has been stated by me and a few others that McNair won’t hesitate to pull the plug because he’s a very successful businessman and has made hard decision. You and your crew disagreed, implying that becoming a successfull businessman has nothing to do with making tough decisions.
That is absurd.
And don’t say I misread it, because that’s exactly what you were implying.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
One of the reasons why I like SBnation
Quote Boxes!
Uh, no.
A friend of mine, who lives a thousand miles away and is very knowledge about sports had the following conversation yesterday.
Friend: "You guys may want to keep Kubiak. It may not all be his fault."
Me: "How so?"
Friend: "The players bear some responsibility to. Look at Kris Brown. He missed those two kicks, costing you guys those two games. That’s on him."
Me: "Ok, the same thing went down in Baltimore. What did Baltimore do? They cut their kicker and brought in new ones. Same thing in Atlanta. They started auditioning kickers after their kicker blew a game."
Friend: "Right. That’s a good idea."
Me: "But, that’s the thing. Gary has said point blank that Kris is his kicker and that he refused to even bring in any other kickers to even try out."
Long pause.
Friend; "Oh hell no. He’s an idiot. He’s gotta go.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 8:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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These things are awesome because you can quote what somebody said and they can’t deny that they said it.
That was your comment after DaGoat mentioned that the players are letting Kubiak down.
Oh, what do we have here? The first sighting of your reading comprehension fail! And I have a feeling that there’s many more to come.
Your comment consisted of a conversation you had with your (imaginary) friend that’s “very knowledgeable about sports” who lives a thousand miles away(inside your head) about how Kubiak should be fired sticking with Kris Brown as his kicker.
Of course when you say something on a public forum, people automatically agrees with you so you waited for somebody to say “Hell yeah, FIRE KUBIAK!” but nobody came. All you got was a sarcastic response and opinions from people that dared to disagree with you so you decided to throw all logic away and forget everything you learned in school about reading comprehension.
Actually… …you suck, because you totally missed the point.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What point did beefy miss? That the whole conversation you had with your friend was fake because it was really just you talking to yourself in front of a mirror? I think beefy got that, he was just too nice to type it out for everybody to see.
Then another commenter chose to defend Kubiak’s decision to stick with Kris Brown so you decided to drop this gem of “knowledge” on us
No He has to go because he’s not even considering alternatives. Yes, Chris has been good for us, but he has blown two key games. Kubiak didn’t even CONSIDER trying out other kickers.
And that was your whole point. You never said that Kubiak should be fired because of his poor clock management or because of failure to win challenges that cost our team timeouts. Until I brought it up!
And the Texans think that he can get the job done. Is there anything wrong with that? Is it a bad decision? We dont know that yet. So your use of Kris brown as an example of Kubiak’s spotty decision making is considered a fail.
If you’re talking about clock management and challenges, I would have to agree with you.
by Jordann on Dec 2, 2009 9:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That when you said:
Yes
yes, I am also taking about clock management and challenges, David Carr. That’s the point I was trying to make. I’m talking about Kubiak’s whole deal.
I like Kris Brown. I just don’t think it would have killed us to bring in a couple of other kickers like Baltimore and Atlanta did.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You started claiming that your point all along was Kubiak should get fired for poor clock management and poor challenges when in reality, you just read it. Like what I said, if you read something and you agree with it, it doesn’t really make it your point. Your point was Kubiak should get fired for not cutting Kris Brown and not even considering other kickers to replace him(which is an unproven statement BTW)
I want to keep going but I feel like im abusing the ability to use quote boxes so im just gonna stop there. Unless you want me to keep going football fan?
But I digress. I feel
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Wow
That took a lot of time. I’m impressed.
Again: I brought up the Kris Brown situation as one example. Yes, it was my first example. Kubiak’s clock management and challenge issues are not debatable. Everyone knows he has issues.
Dude go ahead with your fratboy “Reading Comprehension fail” nonsense.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, that's it.
I feel like I’m debating with a sheltered 20-year-old and wasting my time.
(With a David Carr avitar, no less!)
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
It's sad
That you can’t manage a rebuttal so you decide to talk about my Classic Carr Avatar. Really?
Can you get more creative than that because im seriously gonna consider trading you for Zoltan.
You don't want that.
Zoltan lives in Fricoslovakikraine. That place SUCKS!
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 2, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Wow. Did they really just cut my comment off in half?
I didn’t know there was a character limit on comments.
LOOK U HAVE SOME BAD LOGIC IT APPEARS U THINK THE TEXANS ARE FINE AND DANDY THE WAY THEY ARE N I GOT NEWS FOR YOU WE HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN MENTIONED FOR A DAMN WILDCARD SPOT IN 8 FUCKING YEARS I MEAN TEAMS ACUALLY MADE THE SUPER BOWL N ALMOST WON IN THEIR FIRST YEAR I MEAN LOOK AT THE TALENT WE GOT ITS FOA DAMN 15-3 SEASON DAMN IT
by TEXANBYHEART on Dec 6, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
Beefy is using Carr as his avatar now?
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 2, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
I don't attack EVERYONE...
Just the commenters that really annoy me with everything they do, type, think, and say.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
No
I’m a big OD fan. He wouldn’t flip me off.
by footballfan412 on Dec 2, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
i just heard it on the radio
and from a couple peeps at the game
OD probably was aiming it downward at bud adams, since he is in hell
Patrick Willis for HQ?
We’d be super bowl bound, no?
HC I mean
Well fuckit. Head Coach, Quarterback & Kicker. Maybe linebacker too. But mainly head coach.
Foods that start with the letter Q...
What is a Quince?
AND I GOT EIGHT MORE!!
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
in my worthless eyes he has to win out the rest of the season to keep his job. i will not settle for 8-8 once again with all the tools that we have
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Dec 2, 2009 2:09 PM CST reply actions
Zgonina
Might just be our most consistent DT
I think that alone garners a first rounder on a DT
trade up for McCoy or suh?? Count me in
by AllenOU on Dec 2, 2009 3:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Seriously?
You want us to trade up into the top 5 for a DT and sacrifice probably 3 or 4 others holes that we need to fill? DT is definitely a sore spot, but its not our only one and trading up into the top 5 is not worth it all. Plus, the Texans dont have a history of trading up and if anything they are more likely to trade down to accumulate quantity of talent over quality of talent.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
Not to mention that we don't need another DT.
We need an NT, and Suh ain’t one.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Who is a NT in college football?
I thought most college teams run a 4-3 scheme and therefore dont have a real nose tackle. If im wrong please correct me, but ive always thought any good college DT can become a NT in the NFL.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
OD didn't flick me off...
It prob was you jordann. You prob was talkin or somethin and you more than likely bored him to death cause all u do is jus blah blah blaha! Hahaha I don’t know you and you don’t know me so y you comin at me like that? Is it cause I boooed kubiak? Oh well who cares fuck it! How was your day today?
by Texan_4_life on Dec 2, 2009 4:39 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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