Texans vs. Rams: Post Game Thread
by Jake on Dec 20, 2009 3:32 PM CST
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Was it pretty?... No. Embarrassing... Maybe. Does it count in the W column?... Yup. Neither the offense or the defense played well, but neither played terribly either. It's a good thing that the Texans pulled out a win against the Null led Rams because I think a loss would have made Gary Kubiak's seat immensely hot.
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a win is a win
and hopefully we play up to our competition the next two weeks as well as we played down to our competition today.
Mount Cody in round 1
i think if they played a better team they woulda come into the game better
the fact is no matter how hard u try to get pumped about a game, it is really hard to when u r facing a 1-12 team…im sure this texans team will be ready to go for the Dolphins! Big week next week….do or die…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 20, 2009 3:36 PM CST reply actions
Is he stinking it up against the Ravens, fuck!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
two picks, but they are driving now
Mount Cody in round 1
dub-fuck
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
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by riversmccown on Dec 20, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Why the hell was the game this close?
There’s no excuse for the Texans coming out this flat. If the Texans had lost this game, there would have been no doubt in my mind that Kubiak would have been fired.
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
Flat?
I don’t get that characterization.
The gameplan was fine, Schaub was crisp, the offensive line kept him clean all day, and the defense played a good game.
The things that kept this from being a healthy victory were dropped passes by a back-up TE, a fumble by a fourth-string RB, and a missed field goal. That doesn’t reflect the team as a whole at all; it just means a few players (who wouldn’t get any PT if it weren’t for injuries) made some mistakes.
Much like the Buffalo game, despite being down 10-6 at the half, there was never any doubt about the outcome of that game. Time to forget about it, hope Cushing and Brown are healthy, and move on to next week.
It also hurt that we had to kick 2 FG in the red zone
It also hurt that our clock management at the end of the 1st half was horrible. It hurt that the playcalling sucked at times. It hurt that we didnt go to Andre til the latter stages of the 1st quarter. It hurt that our running game sucks donkey dick.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
Only went to Andre in the later stages of the first quarter?
We hit him twice on our second drive, and it’s not like we had trouble moving the ball through the air on our first drive; it just got killed by an Arian Foster fumble.
The play-calling was basic and intended to create mistake-free football, and it did just that. Schaub didn’t throw a pick, and he never even got touched by the Rams’ defense until the QB sneak. Again, if not for two Dreessen drops and the Foster fumble, nobody would be complaining. Those are individual player mistakes.
And our running game always sucks donkey dick. This is nothing new.
You cant deny that the playcalling this week was a lot safer than last week
and thats a problem people have with Kubiak. He knew we should win the game and played it safely, thats not good.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
If by playing it safely, you mean to Chris Brown passes
Otherwise, I don’t get this it all. We had several completions over 25 yards. We have to run the ball SOME because our O is so reliant upon play-action.
I thought our O game-planning was excellent considering our current group of players. The ONLY problem I had was Chris Brown’s mere presence.
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I thought the end of the first half was poor clock management
When we got in the red zone we ran it too much and didnt look for Andre at all in the red zone. That screen to Jacoby on 3rd and goal from the 10 was a safe, horrible play call. On the first drive we were having success throwing the ball, then ran it 4 times in a row to barely squeeze out a 1st down, but then Foster fumbled. We played it safe.
A personnel problem I had besides Chris Brown that I havent seen here yet is this: where was James Casey all day?? He was dressed but I didnt see him on the field once.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
you dont throw to Andre just to do it, you throw to him in particular coverage looks. Its not like they are just leaving him in man coverage all day. When Foster fumbled, we had driven all the way down the field and he fumbled on the 10 yard line. Thats playing it safe? Driving down deep into their red zone is safe?
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
sorry that "we played it safe" was supposed to be about the whole game, not just that drive
Why dont you throw to Andre just to do it? He’s the best receiver in the league, nobody on the Rams can cover him, and he was on fire today. We cant run the ball so thats not an option in the red zone, why would we not go to our best player in that situation. If he was covered on every play in the red zone I’d admit I’m wrong, but he wasnt.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
no one on the Rams can cover him in man coverage, which isnt what they were doing. He had 2 and sometimes 3 ppl in his area most of the game.And when Matt throws to Andre when hes covered and it gets picked, everyone starts slamming Matt has not being ‘clutch’? He reads the defense and finds the open man, if its not Andre, Kevin and David as just as capable of making the catch.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
Okay, but was Andre covered on every play in the red zone??
NO!! I remember one play when Schaub had 3 reads before he looked at an open Andre, but by that time Schaub had pressure on him and the throw was affected.
And when Matt throws to Andre when hes covered and it gets picked
See: Miami last year or Tennessee last year
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
I will have to go back and rewatch the film, but most of the time I remember them doubling Andre in the red zone. Probably because his big catch the play before that put us in the red zone in the first place.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
Also Im still trying to find how we are saying Andre should get the ball more when he had 196 yards receiving and he leads the league in targets. I know you said redzone, but come on, he gets tons of looks.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
yes, but 0 looks today in the red zone, thats what im complaining about
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
percentages
Kubiaks play calling is based on percentage of success in the end zone. Coverages are completey different in the end zone. less yardage, less time to check his recievers, and more people in a given area. Yea I know I’m statimg the obvious but U don’t want to give away those looks to tape that make andre the best reciever in the league. We will see those in the playoffs when andre knocks indy out of the playoffs. Hahaha I’m so delusional sometimes! Can’t help I bleed red white n blue. Go Texans!
by Big_T on Dec 21, 2009 1:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
See that, Jordannnn??
“red white n blue.”
Simple. Powerful. Abbreviated.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Im so tired of hearing all the crying about fucking playcalling. There wasnt a single head scratcher play call that whole game. People need to put down the ‘I hate kubiak’ pitchfork and try actually paying attention to the game.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
and maybe you need to put down the "I love Kubiak" pitchfork
and actually pay attention to the game.
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
copying my words doesnt make the statement I replied to any less ignorant. Anyone crying about the play calling for this particular game is blindly throwing hate at the coaching staff and avoiding the fact that players didnt make plays. Someone fumbling or dropping a pass doesnt make it a bad play call. I also love how we won the game and you would think we lose from most of the comments. When we lose a game no one wants to hear about how close we were, but when we win, everyone wants to cry about how we should have loss. Im pretty certain alot of people enjoy the agony of defeat.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
Im not crying about how we should have lost, because we shouldnt have. Im crying that we should have won by more, is that a problem for you?? Im not saying the players didnt make mistakes, Dreessen had two huge drops and Foster had a key fumble, but on top of that, we played it safely today. It can be both ways by the way. It is possible to play it safe and still have players make mistakes, thats my point but you are too stubborn to see that.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
its not so much a problem as it irks me. When I defend certain aspects about how we lost games, I got the “it doesnt matter we lost” card. So I think its only fair to throw it back when tears start flowing after a win. Explain how we played it safe. We throw 65% of the time, we had several plays over 25 yards, Matt threw for 365 yards. Is your idea of aggressive throwing bombs down the field all day? Wait, are you a Rex “fuck it Im going deep” Grossman supporter?
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
I have already explained how I thought we played it safe
Slip screen to Jacoby on 3rd and goal from the 10, more running than throwing in the red zone, poor clock management at the end of the 1st half forced us to try a FG instead of another shot at the end zone, 4 straight running plays on the first drive when our passing game was working perfectly fine.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree on the poor clock management portion
We were out of TOs, and we had little to work with. I think we did a good job getting ourselves into FG range.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 21, 2009 12:07 AM CST up reply actions
I understand that view
but we had 25 sec left and didnt run a play until about 12 left, thats time for at least 2 plays if we spike it and get a quick completion out of bounds
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
so you named 1 play you didnt like, so Im guessing Kubiak has to have 100% likable plays or its playing it safe. Also Redzone:
11 redzone plays
7 passes, 4 runs
At the end of the first half we got the ball with 1:47 and no timeouts and moved 39 yards to get in field goal range. What exactly is the problem with that? It takes time to run up the field and get everyone set to snap the ball.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
One play that was a key point in the game
I could name more plays but I dont have the film to go through, thats just one that sticks out in my mind.
Yes it took time to get up to the line of scrimmage, but everyone was up and then we wasted 5 or 6 seconds before an incomplete pass. The play before that one was a 19 yd completion to AJ, it took 20 sec to run that play, run down the field and spike the ball. It took 21 sec for us to complete a 6 yd pass to Jacoby and have another incomplete short pass to Jacoby.
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
OK, let's look
We got the ball with 1:38 left.
Play 1: Schaub hit as he throws. INC. 2nd and 10. 1:34 left.
Play 2: Schaub hits Anderson. Bad pass. 5 yards.
Play 3: Ball snapped at 1:08. Schaub middle of the field to JJ for 9 yards. 1st down, converting 3rd and 5. Ball at 40.
Play 4: Ball snapped at :47. Schaub to AJ to the Rams’ 40 (should be the 39, in retrospect. Poor spot).
Play 5: Ball spiked at :30.
Play 6: Schaub to JJ for 6 yards. Outstanding tackle by Dahl to keep JJ in bounds. Now 3rd and at the 34.
Play 7: Ball snapped at :08. It looks like Schaub is trying to hit JJ, but he throws it away. :05 left.
Play 8: Well, you know.
We did all this without a TO.
So, yeah, I think your description is pretty accurate, but I’m not sure what Kubiak could’ve done differently. The onus was on Schaub hitting guys in the middle of the field, and then there was Dahl’s truly excellent play.
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Poor clock management....
wasn’t to blame in that final drive of the first half. Schaub moved the ball well. The play-calling was on the spot. And Kris Brown missed another field goal for us.
There was plenty of time but our hurry up offense wasn’t as hurry up as it should. Our players weren’t moving like the time was expiring.
Seems to me that the players are more to blame than Kubiak on that one.
I remember the one to Slaton against the Bengals...
but none others. I have no problem with RB screens, but a WR slip screen to our 4th receiver on 3rd and goal from the 10 is not a good play call.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 21, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't Slaton also score on a screen against
His Holiness Patrick Willis the Niners?
Or have Patrick Willis’s psychic powers make everyone forget?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 22, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with Hoosier on one thing
The JJ slip screen call was horrible.
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It was.
I hated it. Andre was red hot. He wanted that damn ball. And when he had the ball, he made plays. Why try something else when AJ was in the zone. I defended that other screen play from the other game. I dont remember which one but in this one, im with yall. It was a horrible choice. I haven’t rewatched the game and see if the rams defense bit on it but my initial reaction is that it was a horrible call.
Agreed.
Maybe it’s worth a shot in 1st or 2nd down; but on 3rd down, I think you have to throw the ball into the end-zone.
We’re handicapped with no OD and no running game of course, but between AJ, K-Dub, Anderson, and an offensive line that had been pancaking the Rams all day long, they should have tried a simple pocket pass. Seems like it would have been a good time to bust out that fullback pass that works for us every once in a while.
But as I tried to tell Hoosier, one bad play-call does not a bad game make. We had a few individual mistakes, but overall it was a solid game. It’s a pity the scoreboard didn’t reflect that, yet that was one of those games that you knew we were going to win all along. I don’t care who the opposing team is; when you get to the point where you know you’re gonna beat somebody, you’ve at least got a pretty good team in place.
by Nashmeister on Dec 20, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with the huge impact not having OD has in that situation. That is exactly where he would be catching a TD pass. The only reason I didnt really like that screen play was because it was to JJ. Hes just not strong enough to muscle in there. In hindsight, I would have throw the screen to Moats(like Slaton has scored on many times), or to AJ and let one of them muscle it in there.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
Here's why I say it was a flat performance
1. With the passing offense that we have & as terrible as the Rams defense is, there’s no excuse for getting only 1 TD & all first half scoring coming from Kris Brown alone
2. We were playing the Rams who had their 3rd string QB & 2 backup guards starting, and managed to keep Stephen Jackson out of the endzone. How the hell did they score 13 points on us?
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 20, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
They scored 13 points on us
because they average 11 a game. Shutouts aren’t common.
We held them to 237 net yards which is actually below the Rams’ season average of 295.
I don’t know what you expected from the defense…but they played pretty well.
like most pretend fans, he expects a 59-0 score every game and if those points arent spread out evenly over every minute of the game, hes going to cry that we didnt play for 4 full quarters so who cares if they won.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
The defense played pretty well.
As always, it was bend without breaking. There were some missteps but im pretty satisfied with how they played. They should’ve been more dominant but they didn’t let the inept rams offense take over the game.
Okoye and Barwin played pretty well today. Both made multiple plays.
Barwin’s really coming along as the season winds down.
Andre said he’d be playing his best football as the season winds down, and he is a man of his word. Another beastly performance.
Schaub passed for over 4,000 yards (I believe he’s at 4,181 and 25 TDs) which is a great testament to him staying healthy.
7-7 with a shot to finish at 9-7. It may be ugly, but the Texans won a “trap” game. They have set a franchise record with 4 road wins and a shot at a winning road record next week.
It is looking like the Texans had a good draft in 2009
Cushing and Quin have been solid. Barwin has shown promise. There is still hope for Casey to show us something. Hill never got a chance. Caldwell has had limited chances too. McCain had some chances and has not been bad.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
A good 2010 draft is needed this offseason as well
Best way of that happening is somehow drafting Toby Gerhart & hope he doesn’t contract butterfingers from our current RB corps
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 20, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Gerhart may not come out.
He has a year of eligibility and will announce his status after he hears back from talent evaluators.
Side bet
I say he come out….
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Is it a bet?
I’m hanging…
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 20, 2009 6:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
How does he have a year left as a senoir?
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 20, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
oops, senior (sp)
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 20, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions
He played in only one game in 2007
and people expect he will get medical redshirt if he wants it.
Yay, sports.
This is true
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Travis Johnson
just had a tackle for a loss.
5th rounder, here we come!
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ok the Phins losing to the tits actually hurt us
I thought it didn’t matter.
Right now the Ravens need to lose 2 out of 3 games for us to go.
If the Texans, Dolphins and Jets would have finished 9-7 (now impossible, but only requiring 1 loss by the Jets), the first elimination would be the Jets, and we’d win the tie-breaker v. the Phins (we gotta beat them to get to 9-7)
Mount Cody in round 1
I have said all along the Ravens wil be the team that keeps us from going.
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by TexansForever on Dec 20, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
The way it works is weird. If 3 teams are tied, and two are in the same division, one of those teams gets eliminated before they are compared to the team out of the division.
We'd get eliminated by the Jags and Tits if we all finished 9-7 anyhow.
Luckily, the Jets play the Colts, the Tits play the Chargers, the Jags play the Pats, and the Ravens play the Steelers.
Heck, if the Broncos lose to the Raiders then they go play Philly so both wild card spots could be in play.
My hope is dying right now. There is no way the Raiders beat the Ravens, and the Bears are coughing the game up BIGTIME.
The Raiders at home...
beat Cincinnati and Philly. They also beat Pittsburgh.
Personally, I’ll be happy if the Texans go 9-7, but it’s not impossible for the Raiders to win since they’ve got 2 big home wins against playoff teams and they’re 2-0 against the AFC North for some reason.
Of course the Ravens are winning big...
so they’d have to lose to Pittsburgh (doable) and at Oakland (doable, but not likely…although Oakland plays well at home against good teams).
I hope it comes down to that BAL - OAK game
and us v. Pats.
That would give us a decent shot at it, and a little momentum going into 2010.
Mount Cody in round 1
In the Texans defense (THOUGH THIS WAS A SHITTY GAME) the Rams have played alot of teams close:
STL 7 WAS 9
STL 20 JAC 23
STL 23 NO 28
STL 7 CHI 9
So while the rams suck, they have had some close ones against decent teams…other than CHI anyway.
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The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
I missed the game, but is it really that shitty of a defensive game if you give up 13 points? I know its the Rams but still, I will take any game where the D gives up 13 points.
I think he meant in defense of the Texans on this close game to the Rams.
The D had 3 sacks, 1 fumble recovery, 1 pick, and 1 bloody lip. They only allowed 13 points as well. I’ll take that every week.
how is Washington decent??
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
Their not.
Way to miss the forest for the trees.
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by TexansForever on Dec 20, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
i dont understand that forest reference, sorry
And since you admit that Washington is not decent, why did you put them up there and say StL has played some close games against decent teams??
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
barber has a ton of potential.
he can lay you out big time. it’s nice to see he got a pick because he sometimes struggles in coverage. unfortunately he is not the answer at FS.
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by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 20, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
Doesn't have to be
Wilson is a good starter, whether most people want to believe it or not. What we need is depth, and Barber can provide that.
for this
I am optimistic.
I think we had a huge hole at FS2, and now it looks like Barber is the answer there.
We can focus on NT and OG
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Astute observation
That is my call, too. More on that later.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 20, 2009 7:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
two games against the Seahawks and the Rams
does not make a starter in the NFL. FS is still a hole, but DT, OG, C, and CB are bigger needs, partially due to Wilson being back next year.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
FS2
would not, by definition, be a starter
WR2 would, but not FS2
Mount Cody in round 1
I didnt say anything about FS2
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
when I said Barber was the answer at FS2
you said “two games … does not make a starter in the NFL”
Mount Cody in round 1
my bad, i missed the "2" on your first post
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 21, 2009 2:52 AM CST up reply actions
oh dear god no.
Too optimistic. Two decent games doesn’t erase a season full of shame.
by Nashmeister on Dec 20, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
he hasn't played the full season
Busing had the season of shame.
And two decent games most certainly can make a decent backup Free Safety when we have huge gaping holes at other starting positions, imho.
Mount Cody in round 1
Give me a dry-erase marker and a video monitor...
So I can circle Barber on several blown assignments that lead to 60+ yard TD runs.
He doesn’t have the speed or instincts to play FS, and he doesn’t play the run well enough for SS.
If they keep Pollard and Wilson, maybe, just maybe safety isn’t a priority any more. But I think he’s considerably worse at his position than Robinson or Cody are at their respective positions. As far as I’m concerned, DB depth is still the priority on the defensive side of the ball.
by Nashmeister on Dec 20, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
his blown assignements were at S. Since hes been put at FS, hes actually played pretty well and as far as speed and instincts, I dont remember any plays he has been beat deep on since being put at FS. I feel WAY more comfortable with him at FS than I do with Dunta at corner. Whats the hate for Cody? He’s actually been pretty solid. He doesnt even play much since that position is a full on rotation.
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Agree on Cody...
I’ve actually thought he’s played decent, for playing out of position, like we’ve got him doing. Hustle guy that makes an occasional play. Obviously a huge upgrade over TJ, but we’ve gotta get him solely rotating with Amobi, and not at NT ever.
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since you compared him to Robinson or Cody
you lost me, since they both are starters in a rotation.
The amount of time Barber, at FS2, would see the field in 2010 should be significantly less than either of these guys have seen it this season. And they aren’t there because of an injury, like Barber is.
So while I agree that if Barber was our FS1 we’d need to focus on that, I disagree that FS2 should come anywhere near any of our starters that need upgrading. We don’t rotate FS’s.
Mount Cody in round 1
Didn't you get the memo?
Wilson sucks too, orst FS EVER man plus he is like 80 years old and shit. We should totally run him out of town cuase he sucks i’m going to ramble on now for a bit
we need to start a petition to get kris brown out of houston.
he sucks sooo bad. he has had a case of brad lidge or mike vanderjagt or something like that. he is a mental head case ever since the beginning of the year when he’s missed clutch FG’s.
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How did the three he made look? The one he missed was 52 yards and hit an upright right? Thats not actually that bad. Kris used to always hit 50+, but there are plenty of kickers(most I think) that regularly miss 50+
Eh, they were short.
Also, “regularly miss” and “miss every fucking time” aren’t synonymous.
If that had cost us the game, I would have been a sad panda.
Agree
This is not an endorsement for Cowher, though I wouldn’t object…but on the after-game show, it was Cowher who commented about another K, can’t remember who or what team, but the guy missed some crucial field goals for the team to win and he said, and I paraphrase, “The guy has to go. You have to do something about that.” All I could think of was that that is exactly the opposite of Kubiak’s method of dealing with those situations. Kubiak “coddles” his kicker, is how I would describe it. The K has cost Kubiak some games and he never did anything about it. He didn’t bring any other K in to put pressure on K. Brown. He did nothing and sent the guy right back out onto the field. K. Brown has his job and now he realizes and the team realizes you can fuck up very badly and you can still have your job in the NFL. Okay, I like Cowher. I haven’t always agreed with everything he has done, but the guy has his perspective on things and in this case, he is right on.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
denver looses...
that can’t hurt us
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 20, 2009 6:28 PM CST reply actions
I am glad we won and Null still got his goods, I say Null play like twice in West Texas A&M
I love how those announcers said “Canyon” texas. West Texas A&M in can….yon….Texas.
Schlauton
I like his arm
He made a couple of good throws outside. Though, you know, he’s no Rex Grossman.
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I would like to take this opportunity to say....
I love Bernard Pollard, he should be re-signed long-term. And I am beginning to think Barber and Wilson at FS aren’t such a huge concern. I would like to see the team focus on the offensive linemen, and a huge defensive takle early in the draft.
Now back to St.Louis vs. Tennessee.
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the cornerbacks had me a little concerned today. Other than Dunta’s usual suckage, the other guys missed a few tackles and gave some medicore receivers WAY too much space.
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I would list those as top three concerns, before running back.
DT,CB, Guard or Center.
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I'm officially going on record that the first rounder should be
OG
I say that for a couple reasons. We can’t say in Chester Pitts is coming back or if he is, how effective he will be, ever. The current starters are no better than a C- overall. I can’t say anything bad about Antoine Caldwell because he simply hasn’t played enough to make any kind of opinion. He is young and comes from good teaching at Bama. I hope he pans out. The remaining bums are just that, bums. So, the starters suck and the depth sucks. The running game sucks and it starts with the interior linemen. I think the Texans need to find someone on the free agent market in the off season. But, that is only one guy, most likely. They need more young guys to bring up through the system, as they are doing with Caldwell. So a draft pick is the way to go. Now, my best reason for wanting to make OG the top priority. Matt Schaub. He needs protection or else his good health is a ticking time bomb. Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak realize that fact, I’m sure and they will do what they need to do and get that hoss young OG in the first round of the draft.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Thats a good idea and all,
but too bad there aren’t any OGs that are deserving of a mid 1st round pick, and there may not be any deserving of a late 1st rounder (if we end up being that lucky). So its a good idea but its not very likely to happen.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
yup
but whenever they are value picks, load up early and often.
OG and C are up there on our “we need this for a winning season” short list.
Mount Cody in round 1
If Caldwell can slide to C
Then OG it is.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Brings up the old debate
Do you draft for need or best available player. I think the Texans have a two glaring needs. OG is my pick for number 1. I say DT is 2nd. Now, if they were to switch those two positions in the draft, I would not be upset. But, I think 1st and 2nd round for those two positions.
Third round, I am still up in the air on that.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I dont agree
There is reaching, and then there is really reaching. Drafting a OG in the mid 1st round would be a huge reach. I think you take the best available at a need position. If there was an OG who is projected late 1st round you could maybe sell me on drafting him in the mid 1st, but not with the situation the way it is now. There are more safeties, CBs, and DTs worth taking in the first round than OG, so thats where I think we should go, on of those 3
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think S or CB is a glaring need.
DT is. I can go DT 1st rd and OG 2nd rd.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
i want so badly to choke you to death.
our run defense has been beast mode and that starts with good d-line play.cody might not be God but hes certainly better as his position than Cunta and the carousel of failure that is CB’s. Safety spot has been patched decently thru the FA market. thank Jesus for Pollard but good lord we need a QUALITY CB. in a perfect world, we’d draft CB then RB or OL depending on what’s available.
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by BattleRedHusker on Dec 21, 2009 7:20 AM CST up reply actions
Uncalled for
I thought we’d learned our lesson about physically threatening people here, but you have proved me wrong.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 21, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
Our run D has been great
With a 1st round NT it could be elite. Oh and how about rushing the passer? Is that not important?
even if we sack them 5x a game thats still like 20-35 passes against small children.
Looking forward to not having an 8-8 year!
by BattleRedHusker on Dec 21, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Our d line has been good
But we sure could still use a good, legitimate NT. Think about the damage Mario could do if he never got double-teamed.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 21, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
How about Brian Bulaga, Iowa
6’-6", 312, OT who started at LG before moving to LT. The guy is suppose to be a mid to late first rounder and what’s wrong with bringing in a young stud OT and putting him at OG as he gets acclimated to the pro game?
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
He's a good pick.
So is Mike Iuapti from Idaho. There’s actually a good group of 1st round Ts and Gs.
Ive been seeing Iupati as a second round pick
Yes there are lots of tackles and we could switch Bulaga back to guard, but that could be risky. My opinion is that we should take a DT or CB and if none are available that are worth the pick than we should trade down.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
Well
Just have to see how the Texans go, I guess…
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
A lot of mocks see Iupati as a 1st rounder.
I dunno if we should trade back. We have gaps to fill. Luckily, we don’t have to think about this since we still have (small) playoff hopes.
this is the motherfucker parity year in the history of the league.
you can’t knock any team for any win, no matter what the record of the opponent is. Outside of Indy, is there any team that is not a circle jerk away from being an 8-8 team. And who knows what Indy will do once they hit the playoffs, will they even regress to the mean.
SB in my mind, eagles versus ravens.
if you look at how many close games Indy themselves had, they arent far off from it either. Its what makes professional football great.
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i dunno if this question was already asked
but im too lazy to check so does anyone know why kubes benched brown??
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You confused me at first with the "brown"
There’s Chris, and Kris, and Duane…i think you mean Duane. He got injured, TV announcers never told us and I dont know the severity.
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 20, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
After the missed field goal Kubiak said, “Brown get your sorry ass out of the game”. Sadly, the wrong Brown listened.
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by DaGoaT on Dec 20, 2009 9:05 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
that is funny
and true for many of our games.
Too bad the RB didn’t accidentally hear that EVERY GAME THIS YEAR.
Mount Cody in round 1
anyone
gonna make an updated playoff race update?
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 20, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions
Im just gonna keep my opinions to a minimum for now.
There’s one thing that caught my attention though. The announcers. The BIG time announcers. Sucking on that Amendola dick. WTF?!
Is that the returner from the Eagles' practice squad?
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Yess. That one.
Did we actually have to hear his biography? Geez. He was doing good. He did have that touchdown due to Dunta breaking down in coverage again but that was it. He deserves the praise. But the announcers didn’t have to cup the balls while they were deep throating him.
Im tired of these damn announcers. If it doesn’t get any better, im just gonna mute the TV and hire Dick Butkus as my announcer. If Fedex can do it, that means I can too? Right?
Why did we have to see a film
about how great Steven Jackson is for putting up with losing seasons ? When Andre Johnson is playing in the same game. And I don’t want to talk about the “fleet footed” Dunta Robinson.
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Dunta Robinson?
You mean the CB that’s one of the best cover corners in the league? The one that the Rams shouldn’t throw at?
Can we go back
to when we were 5-3, and the tits were 2-6, please?
Mount Cody in round 1
I don't want to live the last 6 games over again...
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I fired Kubiak at least 4 times
and cut 1/4 of the team, I don’t think they can live through that either.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Kris Brown and Chris Brown
Would’ve been long gone and starting their own roller derby team somewhere in West Texas in order to feed their families.
What about Cincy?
Is it possible that if we win out Baltimore wins out and Cincy loses out, we would be able to go in over the Bengals? Of course, I am assuming the other teams get at least one loss.
Bengals are perfect in their division.
I don’t see them losing the next two games. But if they do, we have the tie breaker over them. So yes, that’s definitely a possibility.
forgot to add
The reason why I stated that the Bengals are perfect in their division is because if they do lose out and Baltimore ends up with a 9-7, they have the tie breaker over the Ravens. If we end up with the same record as Baltimore, I don’t know what the tie breaker rules are. I think it’s whoever has the most division wins. In that case, we’re fucked.
Well i believe that if the Bengals lose out, they would still win the division. Once that happens, if they are tied with pitt and the ravens I believe Pitt and Balt would be automatically eliminated
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If the Bengals finished 9-7 to Baltimore's 10-6
And the Texans finished 9-7 with losses by the other teams…..we’d own the head to head tiebreaker.
Yeah that's what I was thinking
I guess stranger things have happened.
by MadMartygan on Dec 21, 2009 12:47 AM CST up reply actions
Kansas City plays Cincinnati and Denver.
They could do wonders by beating one of those teams. Especially since Cincinnati plays the Jets in their finale and the Eagles play Denver next week. The playoffs go through….the Chiefs?
Go Jamaal Charles! Go!
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by TexasHoosier on Dec 21, 2009 2:57 AM CST up reply actions
coaches
am i the only one who would like to see kubes move to qb coach again and see bill cowher as the new head coach for us. I know i didnt spell his name right but i think everyone knows who im talking about . its time for a change.
Not even a possibility
There’s a valid argument that Kubes would be better server as an OC, but he won’t demote himself. If we can him, he will be in heavy demand as an HC.
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