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Okay, Kubes Defenders...Let’s Hear Your Reasoning

While I like Gary Kubiak a lot, I just think his ship has run its course in Houston.

While I like Gary Kubiak a lot, I just think his ship has run its course in Houston.

What a difference a day makes...

I have taken a lot of flack on the other site that I write for in the last 18 hours for saying that I am in the camp of firing Gary Kubiak and hiring a new Head Coach at the end of the season. I am being called a "Kubes Headhunter" and a "Cowher Fan Boy" (which is entirely untrue). That's fine, I can handle it. But what I want to know is why everyone (especially the majority of BRB) is so stuck on Coach Kubiak.

During the game threads, almost everyone wants Kubiak gone whenever there is a fumble or we don’t score a touchdown in the red zone. But then after the game, they are the same rabid defenders of "OMG, NO COWHER!!!!!!! Gary needs one more year!!!"

Listen, I think Gary Kubiak is a great human being and an excellent offensive coordinator. But as a leader of men, so to speak, I just think four years is plenty of time. People want to say "Well, look at the disaster of a team he inherited." Fair enough. But answer me this: Didn’t Sean Payton take on as big of, if not bigger, of a disaster in the New Orleans Saints at the same exact time as Kubiak took on the Texans? And he has gotten them to the NFC title game once and last I checked, they’re pretty damn good this year as well. And don’t say that New Orleans is just a better run franchise with a better owner, because history shows that not to be true.

Every year we see a team that goes from 5-11 to 11-5, or something of that nature. Yet, it never seems to happen here. I am sorry, but something like that is going to fall on the Head Coach. You can only blame injuries or the players "not making plays" so much. But three consecutive seasons of .500 ball should not allow you to keep your job. It is just my opinion. And if you disagree with it, that is your opinion. So, let’s hear it, BRB. Why do you think Gary Kubiak should retain his job?

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Sorry….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 9:03 AM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I still think the difference between Kubiak and Payton

Is the difference between Brees and Schaub. That and hiring an actual defensive coordinator last offseason.

But I can’t claim to be in the pro-Kubiak camp anymore, I just think that is a bad example.

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by riversmccown on Dec 21, 2009 9:08 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Let's dispense with the examples

How about if we look at the team, the talent and the expectations.

I am disappointed in the status quo for the past three seasons.

I see chinks in Kubiak’s head coaching abilities.

It is a hard decision and I don’t envy McNair. If he chooses to retain Kubiak, he is banking on next year being THE year. But, to make a decision to can Kubiak, what more does McNair need to see? That is the question I ask. I see Kubiak’s short-fallings that I don’t see changing and I don’t think all the talent in the NFL will overcome.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yet Schaub has better statistics than Brees this year?

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 9:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Which statistics are those?

I guess he has him beat on yards, but he’s winning by 51 and has thrown 46 more passes than Brees, mostly because the Saints have a rushing attack.

To put it another way: I think Schaub is great but he’s no Brees. Statistically similar this year, sure. But he’s a little worse in every category.

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by riversmccown on Dec 21, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I love Schaub,

but I would give up a lung, a kidney and half of my manhood to have Brees running our team.

Brees to AJ…..

(drools on keyboard)

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, RIvers

So Schaub isn’t as good as arguably the best QB in the game… What a Bum!

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We sure are a contentious bunch here

I’m not trying to diss Schaub?

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by riversmccown on Dec 21, 2009 9:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I know. Just fuckin’ with you.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Because you’re usually the one who throws stats out in every debate. Just having some fun.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah

These days I can barely tell anymore. Too many arguments the last few weeks.

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by riversmccown on Dec 21, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

9 times out of 10, I am joking

I only get angry at the blind VY supporters.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You shut your mouth sir!

How can I be blind if VY showed me the light!

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tell me about it.

Was it like this last year? I dont even remember anymore.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Lets see...

Schaub has a stronger arm and throws a more accurate deep ball than Brees, plus he’s 4 or 5 inches taller making it easier to see over the line… The Saints’ line is giving Brees great passing lanes to throw through, behind ours he’d be a 55% passer at best.

by Bryan72076 on Dec 21, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt those first two are true.

Schaub is not exactly known for his arm strength; hence why you constantly see Andre Johnson slowing down and practically back-peddling on deep balls.

by Nashmeister on Dec 21, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's not true. For instance on the ball yesterday where dre had to slow down it was because there was a safety over the top...

…that you couldn’t see on the TV Broadcast. In other words AJ was closing in on double coverage and Schaub slowed him down to make the play.

Schaub may not be Peyton Manning yet, but he is improving across the board and has terrific arm strength.

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by TexansForever on Dec 21, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Schaub may not be Peyton Manning?

98.9 QB Rtg 352-523 (68.6%) 4,181 yards 25 TDs-13 INTs
101.2 QB Rtg 365-532 (68.6%) 4,213 yards 33 TDs-15 INTs

I’m not saying that Schaub is Peyton, but those stats are pretty close. The only difference is TDs, and that’s because Peyton’s better in the red zone. Otherwise, Schaub is right there.

by TexansDC on Dec 22, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Even Brees would probably tell you

He has about as little arm strength as any starting QB in the NFL today. Schaub on the otherhand, while not the strongest, has slightly above average arm strength and pretty amazing accuracy on deep passes while Brees struggles with accuracy the longer he has to throw. I’m not just making this up, one of the main reasons the Chargers wanted a QB like Rivers to replace Brees was that they didn’t feel they had enough of a deep ball threat with Brees running the offense. Rivers while not the most accurate thrower, has a cannon for an arm which is what the Chargers felt they were lacking with Brees.

by Bryan72076 on Dec 21, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Schaub's arm strength is not a concern of mine

He needs to be more clutch next season for me.

Everything else is there in his bag of tricks. The pick sixes at AZ and v. IND were at times where game winning, clutch drives coulda happened. But didn’t.

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Dec 22, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He also has had a few clutch 2 minute drills where everyone else failed him after he put us in a spot to tie. Maybe we should just stop having him throw out routes in game winning situations.

by nolander on Dec 22, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

By "needing to be more clutch" do you mean

Leading us on a game winning drive against Miami last year? Or leading the tying drive against Jacksonville that year? Or leading drives that should have tied the game on several occasions this year if only we had a better kicker or a running back that didn’t fumble when someone looked at him funny and couldn’t get a single yard?

Because yeah, we definitely need a quarterback who is more clutch if that’s the case.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 22, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He doesn't need to be more clutch.

I listed his numbers and Peyton’s numbers. They’re nearly identical. The main difference is TDs 33 to 25. Matt needs to improve in the red zone. That’s the one area where I’d have him work the most – red zone reads, bootleg/rollout plays, and fade routes.

by TexansDC on Dec 22, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Peyton is a better qb

He’s awesome and as much as I’m a believer in Schaub nothing will change the notion that Manning is a historically good qb.

When it comes to the red zone, Peyton has an additional benefit that Schaub lacks: Dallas Clark. We’ll never know for sure, but I suspect that if we had a healthy OD Schaub’s red zone numbers would be noticeably better.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 23, 2009 1:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Schaub doesn't have the years of consistency that Peyton has

And he’ll never be Peyton, but he’s got a decade to be our guy.

Has anyone ever seen Schaub throw a fade to Andre?

by TexansDC on Dec 23, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not a good one

I think thats just a hole in his game. I have seen it tried a few times and it always seems to be a poor throw.

by nolander on Dec 23, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly...
mostly because the Saints have a rushing attack

Thanks for making my point about Schaub before I even tried. Because the Texans have no running game, teams can key on the pass more than they can for the Saints. The fact that Schaub is putting up the numbers that he is with no running game is even more impressive. I think Brees is better, but Schaub is having a better season in my opinion.

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by TexasHoosier on Dec 21, 2009 6:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Schaub does have better statistics than Brees this year.

The difference is that NO doesn’t rely solely on Brees to win the game for them. There have been times that he’s been a non-factor and they still won. It was because of other players stepping up. They’ve won because of a dominating defense, or a running game that took over the game.

We don’t have those luxuries. Our defense has improved since last year but they don’t have the ability to dominate the game and completely shut down the opponent while putting up points. We also don’t have a reliable running game. Heck, we don’t even have a single running back that can hold on to the damn ball. We lost a TE that had the ability to step up when AJ is being double/triple teamed. And they have a kicker that doesn’t choke on key situations.

I understand that we can’t have all pro-bowl caliber talent in our team. We have enough “stars” on our team to be considered a threat but we’re missing role players that are willing to step up.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and the defense...

The defense, however, is no where near the Saints defense.

by RxDoogie on Dec 22, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kubes Headhunter ROFL!

I don’t think beefy was referring to you when he used that term but it’s still funny regardless.

I have noticed the same thing on game threads. I see some people calling for Kubiak’s head when something bad happens in the game but later on during the week, they would vote yes to keep him and defend his situation. I think it’s because a lot of us(most of us) gets so caught up in the game and the emotion is running strong that we don’t take the time to think. After a couple of days(of drinking) we get a better understanding and realize that it wasn’t entirely Kubiak’s fault.

You already know where I stand Mike.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 9:25 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

That's correct...

I was not referring to Mike with that one. Mr. Kerns only shows ever so slight similarities to a headhunter.

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by beefy on Dec 21, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It was actually not only you

Maybe those exact words. But I also got told I was on a witchhunt for Kubes and shit like that. Hey, I’m happy that people are still so passionate about The Texans. We could be like Jacksonville where they don’t give a shit about the team.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that shit is pretty fuggin sad.

And they’ve got a pretty decent team, too.
I mean, I can see why Rams fans have mailed it in this year, but Jax is a busch league town with busch league people, drinking Busch.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Dec 21, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

$11 bucks for a case of 30

In this economy, you have to make sacrifices…

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would rather sacrifice my life

Than drink that shit.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 21, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Not Me

The older I get, the less of a Beer snob I am. Bad beer is better than no beer.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It goes a little something like this...

Mike: (Writing plan) Roman numeral three: Surprise Kubiak in bed (sips tea) and, uh,…disembowel him!…No, I dont like that “bowel” thing there. Gut him! Le mot Juste! (kisses his plan.)

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by bigfatdrunk on Dec 21, 2009 9:29 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Ummmm

What?

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's Dunta, our ol smellhound

Dunta gone up to heaven Mr. Kerns :(

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by riversmccown on Dec 21, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who is Dunta?

Does he play for us?

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec for the Sideshow Bob murder plan.

by MadMartygan on Dec 21, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

at least somebody got it!

Didn’t wanna point it out because I wanted to see who else knows their simpsons

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I got it.

There’s also another episode in the Simpsons where Nelson uses the phrase “Le mot juste”. It’s awesome.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 21, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh, so everything you know

you learned from the Simpsons….good to know…

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 22, 2009 6:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would consider that a badge of honor

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 22, 2009 7:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you saying Kubiak could save his job with a timely rendition of the HMS Pinafore?

by cubic on Dec 21, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What Never ? No, Never.

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by CFHTim on Dec 21, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

During the game threads, almost everyone wants Kubiak gone whenever there is a fumble or we don’t score a touchdown in the red zone.

That right there should tell you how irrational people can be. I dont want Kubiak fired(unless its for sure we could get Cowher), because I dont blame him for players failing to make the play when they are in a position to do so. Our offensive ranking, and the steady progression of our defense has shown me that he has put the pieces together. How close all our losses have been has shown me how he had the team in a position to win a game. Now its up to the players to step up and make plays.

Just like the head and shoulders commercials say, big time players make big time plays. We need our big time players to step up when we need it most. I also dont think we should can Kubiak because of how intertwined the rest of the staff and the personnel are with him. He has set up a particular package for what we do here, and if you let him go, you really have to redo all of that. Also if the players are backing him, that tells me THEY dont blame him either. Repeatedly in interviews the players have said, its not up to Gary to catch, throw, or tackle, its we on the field who need to do that.

Bottomline is we need our players to grow up, and I think Kubiak should get his last year to do that.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 9:56 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Good Stuff

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kubiak is getting his last year

McNair doesn’t have it in him to can Kubiak.

I think Kubiak had a team capable of much better THIS year and it didn’t happen. I am not convinced that with another year, and better players, next year’s team will do any better with Kubiak at the helm. My hopes would be up, but the same system would be in place.

Kubiak’s faults, IMO: He coaches for the close game, which as we have found out, with the law of averages, ends up in a .500 season. He does make game-clock mistakes which tend to result in bad situations that work against winning. He is stuck on this Zone-Blocking-System which without the right personnel doesn’t not work and he is too stubborn to admit it. Can anyone help me? Point out more of Kubiak’s faults so we can come to a consensus.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to add to Kubiak's faults

He should have, at the least, put pressure on Kris Brown by bringing in another kicked, and possibly should have just outright cut him and had a tryout for his replacement.

If he doesn’t bring in an “anti-fumble” specialist coach to cure the fumblitis cancer that has spread though-out the RB’s, then I can only blame Kubiak for it continuing to be a problem.

Even the Kubiak supporters must notice some of his deficiencies. You can’t claim to be blind even though you are supportive. Let’s hear what you don’t like!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

More Kubiak faults

This team has taken on a Jeckyl-Hyde personality and I think it is reflective of Kubiak’s game-planning philosophy. He either doesn’t make in-game adjustments or he is making the wrong ones at the wrong times.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kubiak faults, can't deny, the stats back it up

This team sputters in the Red Zone. It was an issue last year, despite the offense racking up awesome offensive stats and it is an issue again this year. Again, awesome offensive stats, yet not reflective of good Red Zone scoring.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if you watched the game, they showed our red zone efficiency, and we are ranked 10th in the league. We just focus on the missed opportunities so much to see we are actually not half bad.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was about to say that.

We’re actually doing better in the redzone now believe it or not. Fumble this, missed field goal that. But they don’t notice the improvements.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wait,

The writer wanted to hear Kubiak-supporters speak out on why they want him to be retained for next season….my bad….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, wait.

This is an open forum where anybody can reply to anybody’s post.

If you can’t support your argument, you don’t have to be a jerk about it.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Now

There’s an adult conversation waiting to happen…namecalling…pffft!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So what words should I use to describe your actions?

Im going easy on you by using the word jerk.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Look again

He was “being a jerk” to himself, poking fun at his own posting reasons to fire Kubes.

by bv on Dec 21, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Right

so there.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that he shouldve brought in possible replacements for try outs,

but who’s to say he didn’t? The media doesn’t know EVERYTHING. So im not gonna judge him too much on that.

And I have a feeling that you’re kidding about bringing an “anti fumble” specialist. You can’t blame Kubiak for the fumblitis. That’s the players fault.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta ask.

What do you mean by he coaches for the close game?

And the game-clock mistakes, when has it ever affected us besides that one game (against Indy? I forgot) where it can be argued that we wouldn’t have enough time if we ran another play.

He is stuck with the ZBS. It’s because it works. We had the right personnel last year and it catapulted Steve Slaton into a commodity. We had the same guys as last year, the only difference is that we’ve suffered injuries with the O-Line.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think he coaches for a close game so much as none of his players have shown him all year that they can protect the ball when you need it most. All year. The guy has to do what gives him the best chance to win, and I think alot of these late game drives that put us in a position to do that show that. Do you honestly think who is standing on the sideline makes a difference when your kicker decides to suck, or your RB decides he wants to cough up the ball on the goalline? The coaches job is to put the team in a position to win a game. Not to win 59-0 every game, this is the NFL, a win is a win. There are no gimmees. In every game but one, he did exactly that, and his players let him down. Now he might ultimately take the fall because of these players, and that will be beyond my control, but if you ask me right here if I think the guy has done HIS job to win, I will say yes. Has be been perfect? No. Has he made some questionable calls? Yes, well in hindsight with the limited information we as fans have on how it went down, yes. But do I think he coached well enough for the players to have opportunities to win games, the answer is yes.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

and they won half the time, law of averages, congratulations

You get to watch other teams in the playoffs

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yes congratulations, the discussion is where the fault lies and if its with Gary, not about watching other teams in the playoffs, but hey law of averages applies to the fan base as well I suppose.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Law of Average stats that:

When you call Rip out and he doesn’t have anything to support his claims, he turns into a ball of sarcastic jerk that completely ignores everything.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

More so then that he just trolls to try to distract you from his inability to respond. His thread about how he was right and everyone else was wrong on Cushing illustrated that best.

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I was right about Cushing, too!!!

I just know that I miss as many as I hit on when it comes to draft picks…and can admit when I am wrong (Cough, Mario, Cough…).

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I've never said that

And I certainly never started a thread on that subject. All I have ever said about the player is that it was wrong to portray him as a PED-user before the poor guy ever played a down for the team and defend his ability to tackle that some doubters were classifying as deficient based on some fuzzy youtube videos that they watched once and I said the guy come to play with a certain degree of abandonment and he always brings his game on game-day. Everything else that y’all say is just urban legend. Look it up.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 11:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

hmm

Technically you are right, the thread was about how Demeco sucks as a captain.

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I never said that either

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I paraphrased

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

People only remember the derogatory comment

It is now the truth…

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You sure about that?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you need to throw your “laws of averages” out the window in sports period. Because technically every team has a 50/50 chance of winning at the begining of the game wouldnt your averages then have every team at 8-8

by killdawabbit on Dec 21, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just look at John Lynch.

He was a big time player that made big time plays. After his big time career, he was offered a big time gig and now he calls big time games and make big analysis. Because that’s what big a big time analyst does. The step up big time.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

rec for being big time.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll wait to see what happens the next two weeks.

Dreesen catches a ball that hits him in the chest and Foster doesn’t fumble we could have easily put up 29 points. Our defense gave up THIRTEEN points. If you really want to get on our D for that then you are just being irrational. Oh thats right we also won the game.

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 10:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

The D played well yesterday.

My only concern with them are the stupid penalties that I keep seeing. But at least Barwin learned how to line up onsides. I wouldn’t be against firing Koobs, but only if you have an upgrade at the coaching position to replace him. I would be ok with Leslie Frazier, but besides that, I haven’t heard many realistic suggestions for the next head coach.

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by CFHTim on Dec 21, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If the Texans lose the next two games, I would not be surprised to see Kubiak gone.

This is really the most critical test of his career.

7-7 with a shot at the playoffs if things break your way, but you have to win out.

This is Kubiak’s chance to show that with a potential wildcard spot on the line, he can get it done.

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by TexansForever on Dec 21, 2009 10:43 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I agree it will be big. This Miami game is huge, never have we gone into week 17 with something to play for, if he can beat Miami, I think there will be no doubt in his staying.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A big game requires a big time analyst.

Im guessing we’re gonna have John Lynch and some other guy in the booth again.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sadly, we won't play on Fox again.

Maybe CBS can sign him to a bigtime deal this week.

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by beefy on Dec 21, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why am I on Kubiak's side?

Cause with 2 more wins, he’ll have coached the best Texans team in history. I’ll wait to see these final 2 games.

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 10:53 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kubiak is akready coaching the best Texans team ever

Just that he isn’t doing the coaching part all that well; reference the .500 record….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 12:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

the other side of the coin would say that the players are playing for the best Texans coach ever and they arent doing the playing part all that well. I cant think of a single time Kubiak has ever gotten credit for someone’s good performance on the field, yet he gets all the blame for someones bad performance.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Plenty of people give credit to Kubes

For doing things like developing the offense, taking a risk (that paid off) on Schaub, sticking with Mario Williams, etc.

So I think you’re off base there.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 21, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no Im talking about after a game. No one talks about how well Kubiak did after a win, or after the game if Andre caught 12 balls or Matt threw for 400 yards, you dont hear Kubiak getting any praise for coaching them to those performances. When a player plays well, he is showered with praise. If a player just does his assignment, he is ignored(see Diles or Smith), but if one drops a pass or misses a kick, everyone screams that its the coaches fault they lost. Its pretty disproportionate.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I remember

Him getting credit (even from me) after the Buffalo game.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

I just said that in a different way…

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what credit? Everyone complained that the team came out flat and Kubiak didnt have them prepared. Did anyone give him credit when they destroyed the Seahawks last week? I dont seem to remember it. My point is he gets a disproportionate amount of the blame.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Both of you are right.

The blame mostly falls on Kubiak. Besides Chris Brown, Kris Brown and Dunta; who else do we blame? Nobody because if a play doesn’t work, some people always blame it on Kubiak. They forget that no matter how perfect a call was, it’s still up to the players to execute it.

And Mike does put out his fair share of compliments when it comes to Kubes eventhough he’s on the “Fire his ass!” Bandwagon. I don’t know anybody else that supports their argument other than him.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I’m not to the “Fire His Ass!” point. I’m not angry about it. I just think it is time for a change. If McNair decides to bring him back next season, I will support it. I’m a fan first and a critic second.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How can they be the best when they only have 7 wins?

Is the roster talented? Yes. Is it without holes? No. Is the talent young? Yes. Are they the best? No, but they could be at 9-7.

Only once this year has this team been outcoached: The Jets. Aside from that, they’ve lost the other 5 games by less than 1 score. Most of those losses ended with a turnover or a missed FG. I don’t think you can put that on the coach.

He’s got 1 year left on his contract. This team’s holes can be addressed in the offseason. Most of this talent can only improve with experience. Hopefully, McNair will give him another year. If this team finishes at 9-7 then he definitely deserves it.

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jags Game

I think we were outcoached in the second Jags game. A crucial game for our season, no less. I don’t see how you can view that game and put it all on the players. Some of the blame goes to Kubiak, and some of the credit to Del Rio.

The first Jags game, another crucial to our season, can be argued that, by default, we were outcoached. At least on the final four offensive plays from the one yard line. Yes, the players did not make a play, I get it. And we definitely got screwed by the bogus OPI call. But it was Kubiak’s call to give it to Chris Brown on 4th and goal after the players did not make a play on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down. That was a coaching decision.

Then, after that enormous failure by one of his players, he gives the ball to that same running back against the same team in another crucial situation, and tells him to “just throw it to the wide open tight end.” A coaching decision.

Jets we were outcoached from start to finish. That is excusable. We didn’t know who they were. The second Jags game, after seeing the first Jags game, was not excusable.

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by texanphil on Dec 21, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: second Jags game

How were we outcoached in the second jags game? We lost because Rex Grossman had to play for a quarter and a half. When Schaub was in the game, the score was 18 to 6 in our favor, even with the infamous Brown pass.

by SATexan on Dec 21, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 21, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This needs to be green.

by cubic on Dec 21, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya ya ya...but can we get Cowher here? That would rock!

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by TexansForever on Dec 21, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Stat that supports all reasons to can Kubiak

.500

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 11:24 AM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Stats that support reasons to keep him:
  • 26th to 11th in points scored per game.
  • 30th to 7th in yards gained per game.
  • 32nd to 15th in points allowed per game.
  • 31st to 12th in yards given up per game.

by Nashmeister on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

just to play devil's advocate

we outplayed the colts in both games.

And lost both.

Sometimes stats need to be thrown out, and 8-8 seems to be our destiny.

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by texanphil on Dec 21, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You can't throw out statistics.

Because in the long run, that’s what’s going to get you wins. Injuries and bad bounces are going to even out, and a team that’s ranked in the top half of the league in nearly every statistical category is going to be competitive.

by Nashmeister on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

well there you go

we’re top half in the league in offense and defense.

We are competitive, I’ll give you that.

I don’t think anyone will argue that keeping Kubiak will lead to anything but a competitive team.

The question is, can we take it to the next level and actually make the playoffs.

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by texanphil on Dec 21, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

New York Jets have both the #1 rushing attack and #1 all-round best defense in the NFL. They also have the same record as we do.

Stats don’t equal success.

I agree you can’t just disregard them completely, but they are a small part of the whole picture.

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by TexansForever on Dec 21, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They're in a similar position as us.

Several close-fought divisional games and heart-breaking losses.

They also have a quarterback who throws Mexican interceptions at untimely moments.

Did you see that Falcons-Jets game though? They had a field-goal blocked, then lost by three after Atlanta scored on 4th-down with a minute to play. They lost another one in OT to Buffalo after a missed field-goal at the end of regulation.

These sorts of things don’t mean the team or coach is bad. But in a sport with such a short sample size of games every season, a bad break or two can cost you a playoff spot. It happens to everyone. Hell, the defending champs probably won’t make the playoffs this year.

by Nashmeister on Dec 21, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The lost one to buffalo...

After deciding that the should throw it when they had rushed for a million yards on every play. How a QB throws 5 picks when his RB is over 200 yards is beyond me.

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That team you are using for comparison

What was their record?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 11:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Key word:

team.

As in, several players on that team are responsible for those losses, not just Kubiak.

by Nashmeister on Dec 21, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what are you talking about its all Kubiaks fault, he doesnt have to use reason or explain his position, he can just focus all his hate onto one focal point.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So we are in the top half of the league in PPG, YPG, PPG allowed, and YPG allowed

but yet we are still 12th in our own conference. I love stats. I think over time they tell the entire story of a team. But the stats that mean the most are W-L. We can move the ball, we can score the ball, we can stop other teams, but yet we are still a mediocre team when it comes to winning. Thats a coaching issue to me because they players are producing. We have had many vital mistakes and some say thats on the players while some say its on the coaching staff, but the fact is that its on both. Its on Kubiak for not bringing in better players when he had the opportunity, and its on the players Kubiak has played for fucking up. So mostly its on Kubiak to me.

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by TexasHoosier on Dec 21, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait till the end of the season to decide

We will still have a 1-5 divisional record keeping us out of every tie-breaking scenario, if you want Kubiak gone.

But lets walk down the give Kubiak one more year path again.

What if next season our final record is (I know its a stretch, but) 8-8? What if he puts us in a position to win most games, but the players don’t make the plays? What if we go 2-4 in the division, and 4-0 against the NFC?

Will the people that are saying give him one more year because its not his fault gonna change their mind after the same results again? The reasons to keep him after this season must then warrant an extension after next season, since it won’t be his fault then either.

I’m not in the fire Kubiak camp yet. But I worry about having three consecutive 8-8 seasons under his belt and expecting something different next season.

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by texanphil on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

He got to us to 8-8

but can he take us to 11-5? dont think so

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by Joe25 on Dec 21, 2009 11:50 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

If it weren't for Chris and Kris Brown...

…he would. I don’t get how he gets the blame for 2 sub-par players.

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BECAUSE HE KEEPS RUNNING THEM OUT THERE! Week after week! That is why.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know who the hell should play RB at this point. I guess moats? Maybe Chris Henry?

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A free agent off the street would be better than the collection of trash we have out there now.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you really think he would put his tacos and beer down long enough to ensure ball security?

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have two boxes of shrink wrap at home.

We can make sure that he doesn’t fumble the ball while eating his taco and drinking his beer.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the same one that fumbled on the 8 yard line right?

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The same one that is the only running back on the roster

With any chance of being more than a replacement player any time in the future.

CBrown shouldn’t have even broken camp with the team. Moats has been nice but he’s somewhat limited and I think his best role is change of pace.

And yeah, he did fumble. So the fuck what? Chris Brown has had much more costly fumbles that didn’t result in him getting buried.

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by riversmccown on Dec 21, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly, Rivers

Why does Foster get benched entirely after one fuck up, while Chris Brown is given infinite fuck ups?

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Blackmail.

He has incriminating photos of Bob McNair shirtless, drinking tequila with Vince Young and Kasey Studdard.

That was always my theory on Carr, too. He must have passed them along to spite us once he got the boot.

by Nashmeister on Dec 21, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who do you replace them with?

I think Kris Brown tugs at the hearts of the fanbase. He’s an original Texan who normally has been automatic. Kris Brown used to be the only guy who could come through for us. Now, he’s struggling, but he’s only cost us the Tits game and a tie in Indy. Granted, the Ravens went out and got Billy Cundiff to solve that issue, but who else is out there?

As for Chris Brown, he’s garbage. There was a shot to grab Larry Johnson, but the fan base was opposed to a move and so were the Front Office suits. At this point though, we’ve got 3 dudes. Chris Brown shouldn’t ever see the playing field after 3 turnovers in the red zone during the 4th quarter, but that aside, we’ve got nothing at the RB position.

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone.

Just get them off the team.

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by riversmccown on Dec 21, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me. I feel the same way.

They shouldn’t be 2010 Texans. Well, Chris Brown shouldn’t. Kris Brown should be in competition for a roster spot.

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

Look around the league, other teams in playoff contention have made switches at kicker when their kicker has sucked. The Cowboys brought in 6 or so kickers today to try out because Nick Folk has missed 10 kicks this season, the most in the NFL. Can you guess who is 2nd?? I’ll tell you if you cant, its Kris Brown with 9. One of my problems with Kubiak is that he has too much trust in veterans and is too scared to make a move. Kris Brown, Chris Brown, Chris Myers are just a few examples of people who dont deserve starting gigs in the NFL right now.

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by TexasHoosier on Dec 21, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Cowboys signed Shaun Suisham.

That was the best available FA. I know Kris Brown’s a better kicker than Suisham who is complete garbage. I know Brown is better than Folk who also was just starting.

Did I say that Kris should be a 2010 Texan? No. Should he be cut for 1 bad year after 7 good years? No. Should he have to earn his spot against another guy? Absolutely.

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So why wait til the offseason to make him earn his spot??

If we have a chance at the playoffs this season we should do everything in our power to make our players play the best they can. If we bring in a few kickers to compete with Brown, it will make him have to play better. Kubiak always saying that he “trusts” Brown could make Brown feel comfortable with his spot on the team no matter what he does. That is poor coaching to me for not taking every available opportunity to make our team the best it can be. Im not saying Brown should go, but like you I feel he should have to earn his job. Unlike you, I think he should have to do it now, in practice, while we still have a chance to make something of this season.

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by TexasHoosier on Dec 21, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're missing the point.

The best available kicker was Sean Suisham. A guy who was cut by Washington for missing a 23 yard FG.

Why bring in someone now who is worse than Suisham? I get what you’re saying, but I mean who can we bring in? Al Del Greco?

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Martin Gramatica???

Any competition is better than no competition.

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by TexasHoosier on Dec 21, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, this is what I said....down below in the fake conversation...

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Brown gets very few touches, Im not sure we can complain about Kubiak playing him when he mainly is blocking or is a safety valve during a pass play. He’s given 4 guys a chance and they all have been coughing it up.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

In my opinion, I think we should all wait to see how the season plays out. 9-7 with all the improvements that they have made, I say keep him. We are 1-5 in the division because we still dont have all the tools we need to beat those teams outright. We have played them close and Kuubes has put them in the position to win and the players failed to execute plays at critical times. We play against 2 of the best rushing offenses and the best QB and passing attack in the NFL. We need a true NT for run support, a true #1 CB and interior lineman that can run block and a powerback to punch it in to complement Slaton. We are very young as far as players go, and are a few players away from greatness. Jordann, Im curious about your thoughts on Kubiak and our needs. What do you think?

by big daddy texan#1 on Dec 21, 2009 12:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I have read all the comments in favor of keeping Kubiak

I see supporting stats that show this team is the most productive Texans team ever. I see player stats that say they are having their career years. Then I look at the team’s .500 record and I just hear excuses that always point back at the players and little things that happened in individual games. That doesn’t cut it. Kubiak says it every week. It is his job to prepare this team to win. Well, wining is the only stat that matters in the end and Kubiak’s team is not a winner.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 12:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Define winner

Winning record? Playoffs? Super Bowl?

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can prepare you for a math test, you still have to pass it.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

talent wise

we would kill the Jets right now.

They were coached to an easy, dominating victory, with sub-standard talent.

It was a coaching masterpiece.

It can be done. Its not all on the players.

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Dec 21, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think if we played the Jets now...it's a different story.

How do you prepare for a new team? It took a while before they lost.

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're tough to please.

On that note, we might as well cut Andre Johnson. He has never been on a winning team either. If he wants to stick around, he’s gonna need to start doing other peoples’ jobs for them, apparently.

by Nashmeister on Dec 21, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I saw he said that

It was about some whiners on one of the teams the Patriots vanquished about a week ago. Yes, they were saying things about Randy Moss and Belichick defended his team. Can’t remember if that actual quote was attributed to this case or if the analyst relating the story remembered that quote from a previous time.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

VY is one of the greatest QB's in the game!!!

Well that is of course with your statement of winning is the only stat that matters. Since he came in they have lost 1 game with everything else staying the same on the Titans squad. (this is sarcasm, just a little heads up) And all of us here know we should have picked him up for his stellar throwing arm and Robin like acrobatics on the field.. (end of sarcasm). ANY GIVEN SUNDAY.. yes Kubes has made some dumb calls in close games, but I do agree he has given us a chance to succeed. We have come so far from being a first half team to an OMG we can win this game in the fourth quarter (although we do lose it in the fourth, but we are right there). We come out and FAR more often than in the past we do play 4 quarters.
First post, hope it didnt suck too bad.

by Preastigiator on Dec 21, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to our humble abode, Preastigiator.

I gotta admit. When I read the subject line and the first two sentences, I was pissed. I thought it was another VYfanboy that created an account just to say that VY is teh sex!
Hope to hear more from you.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, same here

I was about to go off…

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But, like Jordann said

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been on the Fire Kubes bandwagon since the beginning of the last Jax game

Go look it up – I posted it in the very beginning of the game thread. Up to that point, I defended Kubes against all comers. But here’s what dawned on me: we keep getting more talented, yet we never get better. There is absolutely no question that this year’s team is more talented than last year’s or any other team the Texans have had. But we’re still 8-8.

We’ve had our share of bad luck, to be sure, but we have never consistently put ourselves in a position to where we had scored enough points to negate our bad luck. People will say that Kubes can’t make the players catch balls, kick field goals, not fumble, etc etc etc. But that’s not entirely true. Some of that stuff is down to coaching. Coaching can make a difference. Coaching can help reduce fumbles. It can instill discipline in players, which will keep them from committing soul-crushingly frustrating penalties.

The thing that frustrates me the most is that we come out flat an amazing amount of the time. There are many occasions where the team should be up and pumped and they just come out flat. Also, this team rarely plays complete games. We have a great first half and then just fall flat the second half, or vice versa.

I look at this team and I see upgrades at virtually every position over the last few years. We are 1000% more talented than we were three, four years ago, yet our results are exactly the same. Kubiak defenders will talk about injuries and a lack of talent, but I think we are pretty talented. I’ve consistently said that we are above average in terms of talent on offense (although this may have changed recently with all the injuries) and average on defense. Put that together and we should have a better record than we do.

In the end, I can’t deny that Kubes has done some very good things with this team, and if he does go, I will be sad to see him leave. It’s not like I think he’s a horrible coach or anything. Ultimately, however, I don’t see the team being better than 8-8, with the occasional 9-7 season thrown in, with Kubes at the helm.

Having said that, I strongly suspect that he will be back next year. As always, I will happily admit if I’m wrong.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 21, 2009 12:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good points chief.

This team is pretty talented. We have our fair share of superstars and play-makers but there’s something we don’t have. Dependable players/Roleplayers. Our 53 man roster can’t all be probowlers. I don’t think anybody expects that. But even with the talent we have, if the fill-in players don’t step it up or at least do their job with a good amount of efficiency; we’re still fucked.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and in the end

7-7 right now with a 3-3 in the division, and a 5-3 in the conference would put us in legit position for a playoff spot.

The 8-8’s don’t bother me nearly as much as the division record.

Whomever is coaching this team in 2010 needs to win divisional games.

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Dec 21, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I also wanted to point out some stats, We are ranked # 7 team offense NFL #2 in division offense and # 12 team defense NFL # 1 defense in division. Even better than I thought. Coach is putting us in the position to win, the players need to make the big plays when it count the most. 9-7 Keep him!

by big daddy texan#1 on Dec 21, 2009 12:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree.

There would be way too many question marks and backwards steps with a Cowher hire, but I do not want to hire another first time HC in a young coordinator.

If Lovie Smith were to get fired, what would be the thoughts on bringing him in (assuming we DID axe Kubes prematurely)? He’s a good coach that his players like, but never had a team with a decent QB to work with.

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by beefy on Dec 21, 2009 12:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Rex Grossman

Would be scared if Lovie came in.

I like Lovie Smith. But like I told you earlier today, if its an established coach, absolutely. But I do not want another rookie head coach. I don’t care how great people think that Frazier guy from Minnesota is.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto.

Many of Kubes’ issues have stemmed from just not being in the position before. If we are forced to make a change, I’d much rather do it with a guy who’s been there before. The last part of that sentence sounds awesome, right?

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by beefy on Dec 21, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just as I suspected....

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really that surprised

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Marty Schottenheimer

The guy that i would want to bring the Texans to the next level is Marty Schottenheimer. His knock was that he could win, just not in the playoffs. If he came in and made the Texans a perennial 10-6 or 11-5 team for a few years it would be great. The Texans could shake their “panic on the sidelines” & “losing mentality”. Then if Schottenheimer couldn’t get them over the hump like the Chargers, find the next guy to take them to the Super Bowl.

by marroncito on Dec 21, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So with guys like Schaub and Johnson

and one of the worst running games in the NFL, you want to play Marty Ball?

Dumbest. Idea. Ever.

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't even address something...

“Then if Schottenheimer couldn’t get them over the hump like the Chargers, find the next guy to take them to the Super Bowl.”

Yup, I want to fire a guy, install a new system, and then fire him to go to another better system. Perfect plan.

You know what those Chargers are doing? Still dusting off the area for their AFC Title trophy that they’re still waiting for post-Marty.

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i didn't...

exactly. i don’t think there’s a coach who’s head and shoulder’s better than Kubiak. i dont’ think Cowher is the answer. other than the15-1 season, he’s as up and down as Kubiak.

so if we can’t bring in someone we believe could take us to the top, i’d rather have someone who could at least take us to respectable. guys like John Gruden or Lovie Smith, in my opinoin, would only take us laterally.

if and when a coach that is heads and shoulders above Kubiak is availble, i’m all in. until then, i’d rather the team take the next step and make consistent play off runs.

by marroncito on Dec 21, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yes

i think it would solve 2 problems. the Texans would draft a top running back. we had a decent shot at Mendenhall and we could have taken someone like Beanie Wells, but we keep passing. i think the running game would be fixed.

i also think the whole Texans are losers mentality would be wiped. If Kubiak goes, I’d want a coach that consistantly wins 10 games.

by marroncito on Dec 21, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure why we would have looked for a running back

When everyone assumed Slaton was going to be as good as he was last year. Besides, you could make an argument that even Mendenhall or Beanie Wells wouldn’t have done well behind the Texans’ o-line this year.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 22, 2009 12:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

this

a stellar O-line would make the whole team better.

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Dec 22, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Shaub would be my greatest concern with a new coach, he is on pace for 4777 yards. Would he be the same QB in another scheme???

by big daddy texan#1 on Dec 21, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He's only on pace for 4777 yards

Because our running game is terrible. He was never supposed to be a Peyton/Brady/Brees type who the offense revolves around.

by HoustonDiehards on Dec 21, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree.

But Chris, that shouldn’t be a knock against Schaub. It should be a testament to how good he is. Because he has a crap O-Line and teams are just teeing off on him since there is virtually no play action.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kudos to Mike Kerns

He knows what gets people biting at each other!!!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Let's do this every Monday morning until

A. The Texans are IN the playoffs, or

B. Kubiak is fired

….could be a loooong wait, either way.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what it is all about, Rip

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Kerns

The Skip Bayless/Richard Justice of BRB.

/braces for Kerns’ next post: “Why Tim Should Quit Writing.”

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Dec 21, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

already written

I’ll email it over…

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, Tim...

The Pollard jokes I can take. But that one was below the belt…If I was half as bad as those two guys, I would never write again…

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 22, 2009 7:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I Play To Win, Kerns

But that was low, even for me. My apologies.

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by Tim on Dec 22, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Lets be positive

We actually won a close game, and where able to run out the clock when we needed to.

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 1:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kris Brown hit the game winner too!

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think anyone has picked up on that.

Kris Brown hit a game-winning FG. LOL!

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised Kubiak

Didn’t run the ball to the right two more yards to line it up….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It probably bought him another week on the team.

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Texans Fan: “Coach Kubiak! I support you! Great job!”
Coach Kubiak: “Thank you. You are a smart fan, I can tell.”
Texans Fan: “I don’t care about all the losses. Those players blew it for you.”
Coach Kubiak: “You’re smarter than I thought.”
Texans Fan: “By the way. Who did you replace the offending Browns with?”
Coach Kubiak: “You know I can’t do that! Who would take their place?”
Texans Fan: “Anyone?”
Coach Kubiak: “Ummm, true, anyone else could miss a kick and anyone else could fumble the ball….or shotput the ball, I guess.”
Texans Fan: “That’s okay. Let’s just chalk it up to experience.”
Coach Kubiak: “That’s an experience I don’t care to relive.”
Texans: “So, the Browns are gone?”
Coach Kubiak: “Hahahahaha….stupid fan…”

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

he guys he replaced Brown with promptly went out and fumbled.

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by DaGoaT on Dec 21, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, so you are the only one here that likes Chris Brown.

We get it.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If everyone is going to fumble and one of them is better in pass protection… I don’t love it either but its not illogical. We win or lose in the passing game right now and brown is the best blocker we have.

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Is this whole thing an act?

I really can’t tell if you’re serious about this. I thought I remembered you making reasonable points a month or two ago instead of trolling and posting the same drivel over and over.

by Nashmeister on Dec 21, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rip is the Dicky Justice of BRB.

I’m convinced of this.

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by beefy on Dec 21, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I just wish there were someone here with experience in making them...

I’m sure no one like that exists, however.

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by beefy on Dec 21, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I dreamt that there was a blog dedicated

to tearing craptastic texan players a new hole. It also had some epic fake conversations with real people, plenty of boobies and unrequited man love for the one they call “DeMeco”.

One heck of a dream I tell ya.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You two guys need to hug it out

I’d hate to think of you two not exchanging Christmas cards this year…

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jordann and beefy?

shivers

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man!

Unappreciated….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 21, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

for the record...

i’ve always supported Koob. and the NFL is the NFL. hell, just yesterday the “mighty” broncos lost to the “lowly” raiders. it’s bullshit. every GAME is like a battle. this isn’t college, and teams that “should” win, still gotta play the game. to be 7-7 is good, not great. but more so than just the record, how has he managed his players? how many are not on message? seems to me he has FULL control of his locker room. the guys love him. and they know better than anyone that people only care about wins. but think about this. HOW MANY RINGS DID COWHER WIN? only one right? and how many years did it take him? plenty. remember the days when coaches actually had TIME to build teams? nowadays it’s “what have you done for me RIGHT NOW” and i think it’s bullshit. Koob is my guy.

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by chrisd21 on Dec 21, 2009 2:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well stated Dunta. I mean Chris lol

NFL has become an instant gratification league. Because one team got hot after the switched coaches, it doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen to us if we do the same. They struck gold. And how are those teams doing now? They’re not blowing everybody out the gate. They’re doing the same as us. I’d rather let Kubiak put the pieces together the right way and build a team that can compete for years, rather than a team that makes it to the playoffs out of nowhere and never make it again.

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

im always up against the grain so it seems!

or the unpopular position. same as you when BFD and beefy are tossin that salad.
POW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by chrisd21 on Dec 21, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Im not in an unpopular position when they're tossing the salad.

Im actually in the closet with a camcorder. They hired me to film their love making session. The payment. A juicebox and a taco booyah!

by Jordann on Dec 21, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boom goes the dynamite.

killed it.

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by beefy on Dec 21, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I love to build.

Ozzie Newsome became the Ravens GM in 1996. They won the Super Bowl in January 2001. The Colts? They drafted Harrison in 97, Manning in 98, Edge in 99, defense over the next few years. Those teams now enjoy yearly success.

Bad teams with horrible rosters don’t usually turn it around in 1 season. Lions, Rams, Chiefs, Browns, Raiders…..been down for quite a while.

I’m willing to see Kubiak and Schaub for their 4th year together. I’m willing to let Kubiak and Smith fill in the holes on the line and in both Defensive and Running backs. I’m willing to see if they can because no one can answer this question: “If Kubiak isn’t the guy, then who can lead the Texans to the playoffs?”

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But the real question is....

are you willing to see Kubiak and Schaub for their 5th year together (FYI, it is year 4)?

Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".

by Bobobigbro on Dec 21, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's Kubiak's 5th year

but his 1st year was spent evaluating the QB known as David Carr. I can forgive him on that year…he was kinda forced into it.

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know

but I try and block it from memory. You can look at it like Schaub is really our first actual QB so I just pretend we never drafted Mittens and those years never existed.

Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".

by Bobobigbro on Dec 21, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My newly discovered #1 reason as for why I want Kubiak to stay

The only thing I hear is a move should be made…all we’ve done is 8-8 (which is still the best this franchise has ever been). There’s no clear cut favorite to “take us to the next level.” Cowher? Gruden? Frazier? We’re making arguments against them. No one is passionately waving the banner for any coach. Why make a move that feels luke-warm and half-assed? Does it just “seem” like the right move or is it the right damn move?

It’s not like we’re garbage. We’re 1 score away in 5 out of 6 losses. We turnover the ball way too much. Tons of injuries. Tons of bad bounces. Yet, we still stand here 7-7 with a shot at the playoffs.

Another year of experience. Another offseason to finish improving this roster (the holes are obvious). Kubiak has 1 year left on his contract, why doesn’t he deserve the chance to prove he is the guy? 2-14 with a horrible roster to 7-7 and in pretty much every game. I’d hate to see someone succeed with his team especially since no one feels strongly on who should be “that guy.”

by TexansDC on Dec 21, 2009 2:58 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Good take

There are a bunch of Cowher supporters on here, they’re just afraid of getting crucified by Diehard Chris to speak up.

Would I hate a Cowher hiring? Of course not. But not at that price tag he is rumored to be looking for. I would pay that to a clone of Vince Lombardi and that is about it.

So, I am not a Cowher guy. But I would be okay with him. I just wouldn’t be printing my Super Bowl tickets after his hiring.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 21, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Random Thought

Think of how good the Steelers would be with Kubiak as the head coach. His offense combined with Lebeau’s defense would be dominant.

by SATexan on Dec 21, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Think of how good

We would be if we hired Lebeau. Although right now with the production Bush has been getting from his defense he is starting to win me over.

by nolander on Dec 21, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No, go ahead and print those superbowl tickets.

I insist.

Although I’m not sure if you can buy tickets fourteen years in advance… Either way, Superbowl LVII, here we come!

Honestly, I wouldn’t be all that angry if Cowher came either. But the guy already has a ring. I can’t see him really caring enough to see this through to the end. Really, how often do superbowl-winning coaches have successful second stints?

by Nashmeister on Dec 21, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Get out of Houston kubiak, NOW.

bring in brian billick or cowher.

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by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 22, 2009 1:20 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Do you think Kubiak will resign?

throw in the towel, hit the road, take an extended leave of absence?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 22, 2009 7:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't think so.

He really likes coaching. He’ll probably be around for another year at least, unless the team tanks these next two games (which is quite possible imo).

Oddly enough, if McNair says to Kubes, “You’re coming back next season but unless you make the playoffs, you’re canned the minute the team is eliminated from contention,” the Texans will probably win like 10 games. Kubes seems to have his team playing the best when his back is well and truly up the wall.

Hmm.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 22, 2009 7:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you being ironic?

I mean, I’m in favor of ditching Kubes, but still.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 22, 2009 7:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Several weeks ago

Solomon of the comicle wrote a piece about how McNair has enough information to make a decision on Kubiak. He doesn’t need to announce it, back then, but he could make the decision and not wait for the last 4 or 5 games of the season. That is right about where all this talk started, when many were thinking the same way.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 22, 2009 7:11 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

There Is No Right or Wrong Answer To This Question

Kubiak is a better coach than the one he replaced. We have more talent then we did 4 years ago. We still haven’t figured out how to beat our divisional rivals. We still haven’t figured out how to win close games. IMHO our (read the Texans) main problem is the lack of a killer instinct as players and coaches. Will replacing Kubiak solve this? Probably not. If we end up 8-8 or 9-7 then keep Kubiak one more year with the understanding that it’s playoffs or out next year. I would also let the players know this, if they support him they will figure out a way to win, if not then he is toasted.

by exsquid on Dec 22, 2009 9:16 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

duck

mentioning the phrase “killer instinct” brings out the heavy artillery around here.

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Dec 22, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Context

When the context is a blow out win people get cranky. Plus it was a great game.

by nolander on Dec 22, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Experts Like Him

I’m no expert but Alex Gibbs, Ray Rhodes, Bruce Matthews, and Bum Phillips are. The first two believed in him enough to come out of retirement, Bruce must have saw something in him that he liked enough to start his coaching career here instead of the Thumb Tacks who I’m sure would have made a spot for him. And last but not least Bum has said Gary is the right man and has the team headed in the right direction. Anyone care to call Bum a dumbass?

by Dave Calla on Dec 23, 2009 7:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Looks like I'm a little late to the party

Work’s been hectic this pre-Christmas week. Sorry.

Anyway, I think we should keep Kubiak for a number of reasons, the main one being that I don’t think he’s the reason we’re losing games. He has definitely improved the talent level on this team, but has he had the time to improve it enough? Personally, I don’t think so. Those that disagree like to point out that Sean Payton took the Saints, who were 3-13 the same year the Texans were 2-14, and have taken them to a 13-1 record so far this year. Well, so what? The Saints were 3-13 the year of Katrina. Think that may have had more of an impact on their season than any lack of talent? The Saints record in the 3 years before Katrina was 9-7, 8-8, and 8-8. So obviously, the seeds were in place for a faster turn around.

But something N.D. Kalu said made a lot of sense to me. He said that the great coaches always had great players. And it hit me after watching an episode of America’s Game about the 1974 Steelers how right he is. Chuck Noll, who pretty much everyone thinks of as one the all-time great coaches, never won a Super Bowl without Bradshaw and Co. Tom Landry never won one without Roger Staubach. Jimmie Johnson never won one without Troy Aikman. Hell, he never even went to another one. But Aikman won without Johnson. Anyone here seriously want Barry Switzer as head coach of the Texans? Joe Montana won one without Bill Walsh. Geroge Seifert, anyone? Bill Cowher? Cowher didn’t win a Super Bowl until he got Ben Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger, however, has certainly won one without Cowher. In fact, to the best of my recollection, no head coach has ever won a Super Bowl with two different teams, and only three have made it there with two different teams; Don Shula, Dan Reeves, and Mike Holmgren.

The point I’m taking way too long to make is that I think the Texans have had what success they’ve had BECAUSE of Kubiak, not in spite of him. While we definitely have more talent on this team than we’ver ever had, it still isn’t enough to overcome the complete collapse of our running game. What record would we have if Steve Slaton had just been able to reach 1000 yds? And/or average 4 yards a carry? We played the best team in the NFL in their house and only lost on a missed field goal with NO RUNNING GAME. Shouldn’t Kubiak get credit for having our team in a position to force overtime in spite of those circumstances? And except for the Jets game, we’ve been competitive in every game this year. Well, ok, maybe not the second half of the 49ers game, either. Before this season I thought we had a good chance to go 10-6. If we had had the running game of 2008 I think we would have gotten 11-5 easily.

Kubiak, to me, has earned his last year, even if we lose out. He inherited a group of castoffs that he has transformed into the youngest, and therefore most inexperienced, team in the NFL, in the division that’s been the toughest since the Texans came into being.

Thanks to anyone who read my ramblings this far. I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas, especially the Texans this Sunday, and a hell of a New Year. Especially the Texans next Sunday.

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