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Giving Up On Steve Slaton?

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There's so much discussion to be had over the multitude of playoff scenarios surrounding the Texans and frankly... I want no more of it. My head is still reeling from the fact that we beat the Rams by just three points and adding complex statistics to the fray doesn't help. With that I turn to a bit of an off-topic discussion, though one that is still relevant to the team's near future.

Steve Slaton.

No, I'm not going to put on my nonexistent analyst hat to try and dissect what the hell happened to him this year, because that's already been done by people much smarter than me. I'll only briefly recap the many theories for the sharp drop-off in production from a once rookie sensation to sophomore slumper. The problem isn't figuring out his problem(s); it's what to do with them/him.

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Before we get to the central question, I'll do a quick summary of the common theories (in no particular order) as to why Slaton sucked.

1. It's not his fault, it's the offensive line's - Chester Pitts and Mike Briesel.  What's the connection between both of them? Both manned the starting guard positions when the year started and both are currently on injured reserve. Also, let's not forget the ragdoll still starts at center, which makes it tough for any runner to find holes up the middle.

2. It's a confidence problem, not a lack of talent - Seven. That's the number of fumbles Slaton lost in 2009, tops in the league, even though he played in just eleven games before having to shut it down due to injury. That, coupled with the amount of times he was benched by Kubiak due to the recurring problem, probably had some sort of effect on his game, especially considering he lost just three the year before. There was also a clear lack of explosiveness hitting the open seams in the defense from "Super Steve," as opposed to last year when he ran with authority and presence. Could it be he was so focused on securing the ball he wasn't as keen on what was in front of him? If so, how could he possibly have fumbled that much? To be fair, the holes appeared with much less frequency than last year.

3. He was trying to do too much and lost what got him there - Slaton put on about 10-15 extra pounds of weight before the pre-season in an attempt to bulk up for what he expected to be added goal line duties. Those extra pounds could have been the determining factor in the sudden disappearance of top-end speed that he flashed last year.

4. Face it, the same concerns he had coming out of college are resurfacing. He's just not cut out to be a feature back in this league - ESPN lists Slaton as 5'9'' and 215 pounds, though the former is a generous number. Most feature backs are 5'11'' or above and the added height does make a difference when you're in the backfield behind tall, bulky offensive lineman. Even the coaching staff admitted they weren't expecting Slaton to be more than a third down specialist when they drafted him out of West Virginia. His fumbling problems were also apparent throughout his college career. Is it possible for us to chalk up his rookie year to one in which the league just didn't have sufficient game tape to prepare for him?

Rather than try and pick the best explanation(s), the focus should be on what direction the team should take regarding his future role. There are a few possible options.

Option 1: Give up on Slaton's feature back potential entirely and make running back a priority in the draft and free agency.

I don't think the team sees Chris Brown, Ryan Moats, or Arian Foster as the potential back of the future, though it is obviously too early to tell what we have in Foster. If the team really is committed to finding a new starting back, it would either have to come early in the draft or through a top-notch free agent. And no, I'm not talking about this fatass. I'm not a big fan of this option considering the various holes still either unsolved or needing improvement on the defensive side of the ball (CB, FS, WLB, DT), as well as the long-needed upgrade on the offensive line. Also, this would entirely rule out the possibility of Slaton regaining his former position, which the upcoming options include.

Option 2: Call it a bad season and move on with him as the guaranteed starter.

The dude did put up an outstanding 4.8 YPC average last year while gaining 1,282 yards rushing and another 377 receiving. He had easily the best season from a running back in Texans history. A common question fans and surely general managers and coaches ask themselves is how much time is too much/little time? It's only been a year, and it's not as if the sophomore slump is a newfound revelation. This seems to me a better option than the first, but I saved what I think is the best for last.

Option 3: Bring in competition with the hope Slaton will return to form, but the realization that other candidates may be necessary.

I'm inclined to believe a chunk of Slaton's problems this year have been confidence-related. There's no doubt the talent is there. For a small portion of his runs this year, Slaton showed the same toughness he exhibited all throughout last year, which tells me he's still got all the tools and hasn't completely lost the mindset necessary for success. You'd be hard pressed to find an article that questions Slaton's motivation, which tells me this is exactly the type of thing he needs to get him to where he needs to be. Let's be fair...when the only runners "breathing down your neck" are Chris Freakin' Brown, Moats, and an undrafted free agent, it's hard not to believe your job is entirely safe. I'm not entirely sure at the moment who the competition would be, though a guy like Mike Bell or even a slightly more expensive option like Chester Taylor comes to mind. This seems to me the most logical option that balances out an understanding of his explosive rookie season and disappointing sophomore campaign and what to expect in the future.

So there you have it. I'm off to the Rockets soon-to-be beatdown of the Clippers. Have at it in the comments section. What's your preferred course of action regarding Steve Slaton?

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I wouldn’t give up on Slaton. That said we can’t assume he is going to be 08 slaton next year. We need to both improve the line and get another RB to compliment him in the running game, as its obvious how much not having a running game has hurt our season.

by nolander on Dec 22, 2009 6:17 PM CST reply actions  

As far as the draft goes, I’d love Ryan Mathews (RB – Fresno State) in the 2nd round, but a 2nd rounder when we have other needs is a move I wouldn’t want to make (unless we solve other issues in free agency).

I think we should A) get our guards and Slaton healthy B) find a new center C) find a power back to pair with Slaton. Yes, I think LenDale is worth considering.

by TexansDC on Dec 22, 2009 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

I would be fine

with never drafting anyone ever again from Fresno State, EVER! Mittens created a lifetime ban on drafting anyone from that school.

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by Bobobigbro on Dec 23, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

You had me until the end....

Great points, but I just can’t fuggin stand White.
Also, who is it that declared that our RB2 HAD to be a big guy? (admittedly, I don’t know the first thing about the Matthews kid) We’ve discovered through Dayne and Brown that bigger does not equal better around the goalline, so why limit our search to only 220+ lb. guys? The only thing that should remove someone from our list of potentials is a backfield dancer.
So, other than the Lendale thing, I love your thoughts here.

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by beefy on Dec 23, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I only said worth considering/evaluating

After the whole Cushing situation, I’ll trust Smith’s evaluation than my own personal one.

by TexansDC on Dec 23, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

My gut feel is that his "nerve issues" are more pervasive and have affected him for longer than they let on.

I would like to see how he does, or does not, recover from his affliction. My guess is that if he can be cured of these nervous system issues he may be ok to go. I bet they are a potential souce of his fumbleitis.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

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by TexansForever on Dec 22, 2009 6:31 PM CST reply actions  

I agree

Plus, with our weakness up the middle, and our opponents seeming to put an emphasis on getting pressure up the middle, I think it was hard for any back to gain yards. Maybe it was a conscious decision by teams to make Schaub beat them with his arm..

by kozanack on Dec 22, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

As the defense keeps playing better

this issue gets more interesting. I feel like its becoming more and more evident that running the ball is the biggest problem the Texans have. While this is partially due to the line, its also due to the lack of a quality NFL RB this season. Its really too early to actually predict the draft due to underclassman, the combine, and senior days but I think we should address, in no particular order; CB, RB, and C/G in the first 3 rounds. The issue with this though is that right now there arent many, if any OG/C, CB, or RB that are worth the pick we will probably have. If we do draft a RB I think it should be a bigger back like Jonathan Dwyer or Toby Gerhart that can complement Slaton, who should still be the starter IMO.

"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.

To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.

by TexasHoosier on Dec 22, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

Re: OL

I’m of the mind that we address Steve Slaton’s lack of productivity via acquiring some interior offensive linemen and a big back. Slaton should be given the benefit of the doubt entering training camp, but he’s no sacred cow. Bring in another back or two to compete for carries, shore up the OL, and go from there.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Dec 22, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

this

the OL will help all involved.

Schaub, our new RB1 and Super Steve.

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Dec 23, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Dwyer

i like him if the texans finsh 9-7 they should at least think about him

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by Joe25 on Dec 22, 2009 8:26 PM CST reply actions  

Good Stuff, man

Glad to see you back on the site again.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 22, 2009 9:02 PM CST reply actions  

I would love CJ Spiller

but thats because I’m a Clemson fan. I agree with getting Dwyer and competing with Slaton.

I would really like CJ though.

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by wescox10 on Dec 22, 2009 9:38 PM CST reply actions  

A lot of it is confidence based if you ask me, he never did seem to have a lot of confidence in interviews. I say we get a RB in the Free-Agency and then do RBBC.

Schlauton

by Schlauton on Dec 22, 2009 10:34 PM CST reply actions  

Ive seen this a couple of times on the thread and others....

but why do need to bring in someone to compete with Slaton? Why dont we bring in someone to share time with Slaton like many other teams are doing now.

"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.

To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.

by TexasHoosier on Dec 22, 2009 10:47 PM CST reply actions  

Its both really

Just by bringing in someone to share the load there will be a natural competition.

by nolander on Dec 23, 2009 1:02 AM CST up reply actions  

That's pretty insightful. Good stuff.

I definitely think he needs to lose the weight and get healthy. You don’t need to deal with the punishment if they can’t catch you.

Most NFL teams feature 2 backs so a power back to mix it up with Slaton would be good. The interior line needs to be improved. That’s the big offensive need.

by TexansDC on Dec 23, 2009 1:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the insight WVMountaineer

I was also thinking that it was because of the added weight + the extra games tapes that defensive coordinators have on him are the main factors. Im willing to give the SS Wonder a couple more years before calling him a bust.

by Jordann on Dec 23, 2009 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Good to know, especially from a fan who’s seen it before.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Dec 23, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Love it.

Yay, sports.

by MDC on Dec 23, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

The numbness..

I’m convinced helped with the fumbling and then the issue became mental as well. I think SS will be back with a vengence next season, but maybe he should be put to his original planned role as third down back and used as a recieving threat.

GO TEXANS!!!!

Our time will come...

by Texanmaniac on Dec 23, 2009 6:57 AM CST reply actions  

I think we need a CB in the 1st and OG in the 2nd and a starter quality OG in FA and put Caldwell at C and keep ragdoll as backup. Somebody on radio 610 said it right, put an average NFL RB behind a Great O Line and turn him into a probowler. Also, I think Lendale White could be a great pickup for us. Use the picks for other needs.

by big daddy texan#1 on Dec 23, 2009 7:56 AM CST reply actions  

Na

lendale would be good if he wouldn’t talk so much shit

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by Joe25 on Dec 23, 2009 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

all of this except

the last sentence.

We have enough castoff RB’s from the tits.

I think our OG needs can be filled in rounds 3-5 at highest, as our smaller, more athletic O-lineman aren’t as sought after by other teams.

This may not help our problem, but I bet its still the Gibbs/Kubiak philosophy even after our dismal running attack this year.

This should help us get quality corners and hopefully a NT in the early rounds, while still improving our OL.

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Dec 23, 2009 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

CB in the first?

Really? You’re high, right?

Yay, sports.

by MDC on Dec 23, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I would like to add my comments

First off, nearly all of what you say is an over-reaction.

I believe there is a middle ground on Slaton’s issues. I do not believe the weight he added was muscle mass. That takes away his quickness right there. He needs to lose weight to near his previous weight and regain his quickness. I hope he realizes this and puts an emphasis into his off-season training and next season we will see a semblance of the old Steve Slaton.

As far as bringing in Lendale White, or as you call him Lthis fatass", I am not offended that you label him as that, believe me. You are only jumping on the popular blogger-namecalling-misnomer applying bandwagon of fellow blog managers on the BRB who promote this sort of thing. The probability of White coming here is close to nil, so no one will ever have to eat his words, so you are safe in your numbers to continue spewing this kind of trash-talking. That being said, I will step outside, because I care little about following the donkey-ass-rhetoric, and I will say the White would be more than an adequate RB on this Texans team. He would most certainly fill the bill as the goal line back that this team desperately needs. I think a White-Slaton tandem would be freakin’ “Brett Favre awesome!”, that is my new catch phrase for when I want to make known that something is uniquely more awesome than more awesome, as you already know.

Have fun with that!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Dec 23, 2009 8:33 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Ahh Rip...

I missed you so much.

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Still waiting...

by DreKeem on Dec 23, 2009 1:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree, White is a goalline machine. Beef up the O line, give slaton 15-18 carries then later in the second half let white pound a tired defense creating ball control and clock dominance. And Shaub can drop even more play action bombs to Andre Johnson. Fix the O LINE!!!

by big daddy texan#1 on Dec 23, 2009 9:11 AM CST reply actions  

Correction...

white is a goalline machine behind the NFL’s best running line. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that our goalline woes are RB related, minus the Brown fumble. From where I sit each week, not even Patrick Willis could score between the tackles behind the trash we’ve been trotting out there this year.

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by beefy on Dec 23, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I would have fucked him...

but he stopped drinking Patron and I had no chance at da club.

Yay, sports.

by MDC on Dec 23, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Welcome Back DreKee

I know you’ve been spending most of your time down at the DS. Good shit as always.

by Jordann on Dec 23, 2009 9:19 AM CST reply actions  

It's also worth pointing out the weight gain

Which was pretty clearly a bad idea.

Did anyone point that out? They should have.

Because it was a bad idea.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 23, 2009 9:50 AM CST reply actions  

Agree....

I know they said something about being able to better take the pounding, but he didn’t get hurt last year, from what I recall. They tried to fix what wasn’t broken, it would appear. He was a rook, so you gotta think he was hitting some sort of wall after so many games that better offseason conditioning would help remedy the coming year.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Dec 23, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

best way

for him to avoid the pounding would be simply to find someone good enough to take 10-15 touches a game at RB2.

by nolander on Dec 23, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Or avoid taking the hits

and make tacklers miss.

You know, like last year.

by Jordann on Dec 23, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

This.

And also, this.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 23, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

About that weight gain...

There was an article in the Chron by Jerome Solomon a week or two ago in which Solomon wrote that Slaton was going to lose the weight he gained last offseason during this upcoming offseason.

"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.

To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.

by TexasHoosier on Dec 23, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds good to me

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/solomon/texans/6764633.html

"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady

Still waiting...

by DreKeem on Dec 23, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks for doing the work I was too lazy to do

"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.

To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.

by TexasHoosier on Dec 24, 2009 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Fast Willie Parker?

If the Texans want (or need) to take some of the burden from Slaton of being the main back, what does everyone think about signing Willie Parker from the Steelers to give Slaton some air? Parker is in the final year of his contract, he’ll be turning 30 yrs. old in November (the Steelers have a well known rule of not re-signing players 30+, with future HOFer Hines Ward being an exception) and Rashard Mendenhall has taken over the starting role (although Parker is listed 1st team on the Steelers’ depth chart). Parker has been prone to injury, but could be a great addition to the backfield.

Kevin

by WVMountaineer on Dec 25, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions  

The problem with Parker

Is that he’s lost the “fast” part about him, pretty much his only real benefit. There’s a reason the Steelers have a great policy regarding 30+ year olds. Parker has been in steady decline the past two years (injuries are to be expected at his age) and showed little to no explosiveness this past year (thus, leading to Mendenhall, one of my favorite players, being called up). His YPC has declined each year he’s been in the league and if it’s true that what we need is a short yardage/goal line back, he’s never been good at it, scoring more than 5 TDs just once in his career and zero this past year.

We’ve learned from Ahman Green.

"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady

Still waiting...

by DreKeem on Dec 25, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Re: Parker

I’m with DreKeem. The saddest part is that I read as soon as I ready “he’ll be turning 30 yrs. old in November,” my first thought was, “I don’t want another Ahman Green.”

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Dec 26, 2009 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

I just wanted some other opinions of Parker. I also wanted to toss his name out there as a diversion from downgrading Slaton. I’m a Steelers (and Slaton) fan, and like Mendenhall as our starter. (He just passed the 1,000 yard mark today vs. the Ravens). Parker hasn’t been the same since breaking his leg in ‘07. He may end up somewhere as a 3rd back. Now I know how a couple of Texans fans, of which I’m one, feel about Parker.

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by WVMountaineer on Dec 27, 2009 5:28 PM CST reply actions  

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