For Those Hoping Tom Brady Will Be Holding A Clipboard Sunday...
by Mike Kerns on Dec 31, 2009 5:55 PM CST
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New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick told his starting QB Tom Brady today, "You'll play, don't worry about that. You'll be playing."
How much is the next question, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him in for the entire game or taken out when/if one team has a significant lead. After all, Bill Belichick isn't Coach Caldwell.
2010 PRO BOWL (Lies!!!) QB Tom Brady had this to add:
"As players, we obviously don't factor into any of those decisions that coach Belichick makes," Brady said. "It's our job to prepare to play and I certainly am. I'm out there doing all my regular practice stuff. I want to play and I want to do great. I want to have a great game against a team that is fighting for their playoff lives, and has a lot of great players and really challenges you in some different ways. It's a meaningful game for us, it's a meaningful game for them, too. It would be great for us to go win on the road in a real tough environment against a damn good team. My dad said, 'Are you guys going to play this week?' Of course I want to play. I don't want to lose a game. You don't just forfeit these games. Playing Houston, I don't want to see one of them in the offseason and them saying 'Hey, we beat you guys.' Screw that. You have to go out there and play. Close game. Blowout. We get behind. I'm expecting to play the whole game. I wouldn't see why I wouldn't."
There you have it. Straight from the PRO BOWL (Ahhh!!!) QB's mouth.
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Makes me sick
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
I think we all figured he'd play
The question is, will he play for two quarters? Three? The entire game? This doesn’t really tell us much of anything.
I hope they all play
I do not want the Texans to get a cheap win. I think these teams match up real well and if the Texans can play for 4 quarters they can beat these guys with their starters. The key will be getting pressure on Brady, if they don’t i think we lose. I want the Texans to earn their 9-7 season, not get it handed to them. (Jets)
"I do not want the Texans to get a cheap win."
Well isn’t that noble?
I mean, completely fucking ridiculous, but noble nonetheless.
Jim Caldwell delenda est.
Why is it fucking ridculous? It has nothing to do with being noble, moron. It’s all about measuring how good you are against a good team. Beating the Raiders, Rams and the Bills isn’t an accomplisment. All that shows is that they can beat sub par teams. The last time I looked those teams don’t make the playoffs.
by TexanFanInCali on Dec 31, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
I totally agree...
Just look at raiders. They just beat playoff teams!
one of 2009's sweetest games ever...
watching the Raiders beat the Steelers this year. Almost as sweet as watching the Browns beat the Steelers this year.
Keep the faith!
Are you retarded?
“It’s all about measuring how good you are against a good team” is the kind of meaningless drivel I’d expect in a Richard Justice column. So, you’re saying you’d rather lose and go 8-8 than get a “cheap” win to go 9-7, have our first winning season, and have a shot at the playoffs going into the afternoon games? You are either full or shit or too dumb to realize how dumb you sound. It’s not about “measuring” anything; it’s all about winning the game, getting into the postseason, and having a shot at the Super Bowl.
Nothing — not one goddamned thing — about the personnel of the opponent on Sunday matters AT ALL in this discussion. I’m sorry if this confuses you or somehow offends your idea of legitimacy, but it’s the truth. At the end of the day, the ONLY thing that matters is a W. I don’t care if we beat the Pats’ starters, their backups, or their fucking wives, so long as we win and, as a consequence, might make the postseason. That’s it.
If you really think one game against any team means fuck all about how good you are in a vacuum, then I guess you think the Raiders are both a good team and better than we are because Oakland beat playoff teams at full strength. Clearly, they measure up really well against playoff teams (by your rationale). But they also suck, as you impliedly point out in dismissing our win against them. How’s that work, chief?
Also, while the Raiders, Rams, and Bills aren’t in the playoffs, I am pretty sure that the Bengals are. We seemed to slap them around ok. So, I suppose the only way your argument makes sense is if you are saying that we have to beat at least TWO playoff teams’ starters to see how we measure up. But you didn’t say that, did you? Nope, you said that it’s important to beat the Pats’ starters to see how we measure up with the good teams, with “good teams” defined as teams that made the playoffs. Then you ignored the Bengals’ win. Solid work, dude. No one can argue with your logic.
But, in case I haven’t adequately addressed your original question, why is it fucking ridiculous? Um, because whether we beat the Pats’ starters or their B team (a) does not provide a real measuring stick vis-a-vis other “good” teams any more than beating the Bengals did, (b) the important thing in a must-win game is the “win” part and a win is a win is a win regardless of who was in the other unis, and © because going into the last week of the season with a chance to make the playoffs for the first time and then demanding that we get that last win under specific circumstances is just fucking stupid unless the Texans being considered a “good” team (under your definition of “good”) is more important to you than making the playoffs.
Sooo…yeah. Your position, indeed your whole argument, is fucking ridiculous. I gave you “noble” because I thought you just had some sense of it not being fair to get in the postseason with an easy final win. Now, I see that it’s got nothing to do with fairness and everything to do with your concept of which teams are good, what a team has to do to be considered good, and that you’d (apparently) sacrifice a playoff appearance to satisfy your personal preferences. That is beyond stupid.
Jim Caldwell delenda est.
by MDC on Jan 1, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
Speaking of dumb
It is every teams goal to make the post season and have a shot at the Super Bowl, but you don’t actually mean this year do you? The Texans and every other team that is in “contention” doesn’t deserve to be in the playoffs. There is not one good team left, they are all mediocre at best. Do you think someone in this group is going to pull an Arizona Cardinal this year, highly unlikely. This team has found everyway it can to lose and won’t get anywhere until they can win more than one game in their division, pathetic.
I have noticed that some fans not all have a mediocre loser mentality and I guess that after almost 8 losing seasons (8-8 is not a winning season) you would love to have a team lay down so the Texans can get in. You might get your wish if the Patriots pull their guys but they don’t approach game like the Colts. I would rather the Texans win this game on the up and up than to get it handed to them and be "given " a spot in the playoffs. Like I said it is the everyone gets a trophy loser mentality. Maybe the Jets can have two teams in a row lay down for them so they can get in the playoffs, who would be afraid of them and the mighty Mark Sanchez?
None of these teams have a shot at going to the Super Bowl And to hope a team would lay down so you could get in just to say you were in the playoffs is fucking ridiculous. The only team that has a shot of making it past the first round is the team that plays the Bengals, they aren’t very good. I loved your little rant btw.
by TexanFanInCali on Jan 2, 2010 9:08 AM CST up reply actions
"Deserve?"
Really? None of the teams deserve to go to the playoffs? Maybe you can show me where these extra criteria for who should be allowed into the playoffs are listed, because so far you’ve added “have to beat one (or more) good team at full strength” and “must deserve it,” the latter of which I can only assume has additional sub-criteria.
Do I “actually mean this year?” Yes. I said the only thing that matters is winning this game, getting in the postseason, and having a shot to win the Super Bowl. If the Texans (or anyone else) gets in the playoffs, they by definition have a shot at the title game. If they don’t get in, they obviously don’t. So, yeah, this year and every year, the only important thing is getting in and no one should give a damn how your team gets in so long as they get it.
Do I think someone will “pull an Arizona Cardinal?” Irrelevant whether I think someone will OR whether you think it’s highly unlikely. Besides, “highly unlikely” =/= “impossible,” so you impliedly admit that any team (including the Texans) who gets into the playoffs has a shot at the Super Bowl. Thanks for backing up my point. However, the discussion here is whether it matters if the Pats play their starters or not. Please try to focus.
Also irrelevant in this context: The Texans’ record w/in their division. Yes, I’d prefer they were better against the AFC South, but they cobbled together 7 other wins, including setting a club record for road wins, and are in position to possibly play in the playoffs. They could have had zero wins in the division, but beat Arizona, and they’d be in the same position. It’s not the ideal way to get there, but that does not matter.
Thanks for pointing out that 8-8 is not a winning season. Nobody said it was. Of course, it’s also not a losing season, but that pesky fact screws up your trite little “almost 8 losing seasons” line. Damn facts always ruin things.
As for a “loser mentality,” you are (again) trying to shift the debate. Nowhere in our exchange have I said I “wished” or “hoped” the Pats would rest their starters. I have said and continue to say that it does not and should not matter one damn bit whether they do or not as long as the day ends with a Texans win. (Also, that’s not wanting the Texans to get in “just to say [they] were in;” it’s wanting the Texans to get in so they have a chance at winning the Super Bowl.)
None of these teams have a shot at going to the Super Bowl […] The only team that has a shot of making it past the first round is the team that plays the Bengals
Incorrect on its face and you’ve already admitted as much with your “highly unlikely” comment above. Unless… wait… are you psychic? If so, why not just tell us who will play for the Pats on Sunday so that we don’t have to have this discussion at all? Oh, shit, you knew I was going to say that, didn’t you?
I loved your little rant btw.
I love your eschewing of traditional rules of punctuation, grammar, and syntax.
Jim Caldwell delenda est.
by MDC on Jan 2, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Your critique...
Isn’t valid. Your raving profanity laced tirades destroy your argument. That last sentence is classic coming from a guy that said….
“You are either full or shit or too dumb to realize how dumb you sound.”
Now there’s a guy that knows how to sweet talk someone…how about this? …
“I don’t care if we beat the Pats’ starters, their backups, or their fucking wives, so long as we win and, as a consequence, might make the postseason.”
Very classy…Oh, how about this one?
“Your position, indeed your whole argument, is fucking ridiculous.”
Are you just stupid or do you TRULY not care that ripping people apart with profanity laced and sarcastic comments won’t gain you anything at all? This guy is not your buddy, and neither are many of the other readers here so you really don’t have the right to speak to him or anyone else that way. You would beg to differ I’m sure being from the Jim Rome mold that believes crude arrogance trumps civility and conversation vs. bickering.
I’m guessing you’re young. And hopefully when your balls drop you will learn that people don’t respond well to approaches like this.
And for the record, your argument doesn’t hold any more water than the other guy’s argument. See the below post for MY take.
A short list
1. Last things first, if my argument doesn’t hold any more water than his — a doubtful proposition, as my argument was the opposite of his, meaning that one sort of has to be “right” — then why the fuck should anyone care what YOUR take is, chief?
2. I don’t care if my approach “gains [me] anything;” I’m pointing out the flaws in his argument, which people can take or leave, and, no I “TRULY [do] not care” whether you or he take offense with my approach.
3. My comment on his grammar, etc., is not undermined by me calling him dumb. One has nothing to do with the other. I’m not sure how that is confusing.
4. I’ll talk to him however I want within the parameters set by Scott and the other bloggers here, thanks.
5. Richard said, “The next time the motherfucker call, tell him I said, ‘Suck my dick.’ I don’t give a fuck. Whatever the fuck make the people laugh, say that shit. Do the people laugh when you say what you say?” I said, “Yes.” He said, “Do you get paid?” I said, “Yes.” He said, “Well, tell Bill I said have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up. Jello pudding-eating motherfucker.”
Jim Caldwell delenda est.
In summary, you enjoy contradicting yourself?
Here are 2 sentences you typed in the same comment (emphasis mine):
Are you just stupid or do you TRULY not care that ripping people apart with profanity laced and sarcastic comments won’t gain you anything at all?
And hopefully when your balls drop you will learn that people don’t respond well to approaches like this.
Hypocrisy much, Peckerwood? (/Cue picture of pot & kettle)
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
by Shake on Jan 2, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
First of all...
I’m on your side against the jackass being critical of your reference to a quality win. The Texans have been losing by a nose hair against teams all freagin year and haven’t showed me they can win the big ones. They could easily be 12-3 or 11-4 right now. If you use the Saints as a reference, they’ve been WINNING their games by a nose hair. Often coming from behind. The Texans on the other hand have been playing a crap load of tough teams this year, and we have constantly come up short. We beat Cinci, sure, but that’s just ONE GAME. As the clown before said, Oakland beat some pretty good teams, Carolina took out two in a row and both teams will be drinking 40’s with their boys on their recliners. As we sit right now, IF the Texans slipped in with the loss of two of the following teams: Jets, Broncos, Ravens and they whipped a wimped down Pats team, my guess is they would get beaten in the first playoff game by a nose hair.
This is their final chance to be tested and I hope the Pats do so. We’ve already got the edge playing in Houston. And NE won’t have the fighting spirit that the Texans do being that their in the playoffs…I prefer to roll the dice and see what happens. We COULD pull an Arizona out of the hat, you never know, but based on what we know of this team, in crunch time their balls suck up into their stomachs.
Any way you slice it, it’s a moot point. NE is going to do what they do and we’re going to have to scratch and claw to get a W no matter what happens. I personally prefer a tough fight to condition us for a playoff type atmosphere and perhaps teach this team to let their balls hang in the 4th. I won’t whine and cry if they get an easy win against their bench either. But assuming that two of those aforementioned teams win, I think we can all agree that playing a full strength NE team would be MUCH more entertaining then seeing them gifted with their first winning season. ENTERTAINING mind you. Perhaps your sense of “pride” would elevate if they scraped out a winning season, but how pathetic is that? How productive would that 9-7 win be if NE handed it to them? You think they wouldn’t KNOW that they have been given a free win? Would it make the 9-7 season less valid? No, probably not…but for a team that could have been the talk of the NFL had they been able to squeak out a few more wins in those close games, how much consolation do you think a playoff-less 9-7 season is going to be? Big whoop. The whole idea and argument between you two is retarded.
Doesn't beating Cincinnati on the road count as a quality win?
I mean, sure Oakland’s not going bowling, but they beat playoff teams and we beat them…so we kinda beat another playoff team……we gotta make sure the BCS knows all of this.
pollards playin
Brady is scerred
Mount Cody in round 1
by texanphil on Dec 31, 2009 9:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
thoughts while eating cheesecake...
Very much looking forward to the two regular season games against Coach Caldwell’s team next season…..
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 31, 2009 9:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Tom Terrific
Should be thinking about making up for this, Not about playing the Texans close
Looking forward to not having an 8-8 year!
by BattleRedHusker on Jan 1, 2010 4:21 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
stfu...he has 3 rings...what does ur team have...nothing
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum!
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
No one from the Patriots is taking this game lightly
He just wants to play and he just wants to win. Your Texans want the same thing.
Keep the faith!
Yep
Can’t blame him there. The Texans will come out fired up and the Pats will want a nice test before the playoffs as well. It’s a win-win for both teams in my opinion. IF the Texans can squeak out a win against the 1st team. IF they win the Texans still have a chance to make the Playoffs, and the Pats get to see what their current team is made of in a playoff type atmosphere. Of course if the Pats beat the Texans…well, there goes the season. Only ONE way they could squeak into the playoffs then, and that would involve team charters crashing into mountains and I don’t think anyone wants that…
Darn links not working but if you want to see the Brady tribute from Bonecrusher :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdCIPnahI40
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
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