My mistake about Cohwer

by jahunter221 on Dec 6, 2009 2:33 AM CST Comment 7 comments

Try this.

A while back I suggested that Bill Cohwer be our new coach. But the more I thought about his changes all around including the 3-4 defense it just seemed like too long of a transition. But the more I thought about other cantidates, the more I was liking the thought of Jon Gruden if we could him out of the box after this season. He ran a 4-3 cover-2 defense in TB and it worked like a charm. And believe it or not after reading up on the Tampa 2 philosiphy, the more I realized that our players fit it to a charm. Here are my examples:

1: Linebackers must be able to do eveything from cover to blitz: Brian Cushing, Demeco Ryans, (Xavier Adibi if he gets a second chance).

2: Defensive line must be able to solely put pressure on the QB themselves as there is very little blitzing, and the nose tackle must be a very strong run stuffer up the middle, while the other 3 must be quick and athletic to get to the QB. Now I know this has been a huge problem for us, but my small solution is once you let Dunta walk you bring in Casey Hampton (DT) to plug up the middle. Second let Barwin actually develop. He has a lot of work to do against the run, but his pass rushing ability is elite with another offseason of work. He should be splitting time with Smith next year.

3: The Corners dont need to be great man to man coverage players, but must be able to tackle, which I think Glover Quinn and my 1st round pick Patrick Robinson (Fla. ST.) can do well, as well as play strong zone coverage.

4: The Free saftey must be able to cover very well against slot recivers and tight ends. Eugine Wilson has another good year left and can definetly cover. The strong Safety must be a hard hitter who makes recivers think twice about going over the middle. This is why we resign Pollard.

5: A quick note on his offense. It is a similar variation of the west coast offense. He likes his QB's smart and mistake free to manage the game, and loves to use 2 tight end sets (Daniels and Casey).

the first 4 rounds of my draft would go like this, (take in to mind that Walter, Pitts, and Dunta are walking)

1st round - Patrick Robinson - CB - Florida St. - 5'11 194

2nd round - Mike Johnson - OG - Alabama - 6'5 305

3rd round - Charles Scott - RB - LSU - 5'11 233

4th round - Perry Riley - OLB - LSU - 6'1 245

Here is my 2010 depth chart under Jon Gruden.

OFFENSE:

QB - Schaub/Orlowski

RB - Slaton/Scott

WR - Johnson/Jones

WR - Davis/Anderson

FB - Leach/Casey

TE - Daniels/Casey

LT - Brown/Butler

LG - Studdard/Late draft pick

C - Caldwell/Myers

RG - M. Johnson/Caldwell

RT - Winston/Butler

Defense:

RE - Williams/Bulman

RT - Okoye/Cody

LT - Hampton/Okam

LE - Smith/Barwin

SLB - Cushing/Diles

MLB - Ryans/Bentley

WLB - P. Riley/Diles

SS - Pollard/Barber

FS - Wilson/Late round pick

CB - P. Robinson/McCain

CB - Quinn/Reeves

Nickel CB - Reeves/Bennett

Any thoughts? I think we could really pick it up next season with Gruden and a change in player personel.

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where is K Dub in that offensive depth chart? :(

Also idk about Hampton. He’s getting older than crap. D Line would need to get pressure which is something they are struggling hard with atm. I Like our linebackers but the cover 2 that Gruden runs requires the MLB to be nimble enough to drop back between the LB’s and the Safeties to help cover up the posts and seams. DeMeco is a big boy so he may have some issues there however he’s a very smart player. CB’s have to tackle and our CB’s can’t do dick atm. Quin may be the best CB on the roster depending on which side of Reeves we see which is sad.

I’m not sure our secondary would be up to the task. the CB’s have huge responsibility and importance because they are the run support on the edges and they have to know how to bait the QB’s into short throws while not letting WR’s post up behind them. Wilson is a solid safety for us until the end of next year i think. Pollard is the answer to my prayers but to be honest i havn’t seen him much in coverage. If we pick up a stud safety we could do it. When you play Cover 2, your safeties are far far more important than in any other coverage scheme because they are the literal last line of defence. they get out of position once and its over.

since nobody has a legitimate clue wtf is going to happen after this season is over, this is all pure speculation but since the grass is always greener on the other side, I like the Gruden idea. granted i’m also a fan of the Cowher idea the more i think about it.

Looking forward to not having an 8-8 year!

by BattleRedHusker on Dec 6, 2009 8:01 AM CST reply actions

Looks nice on paper.

But to be honest, throw in a big-name free agent on defense and it looks nice with Kubiak at the helm as well.

I don’t see how we’re magically going to get QB pressure with this set-up. Furthermore, I think that the offensive line is in dire need of two legit starters: one can come from the draft, but I think we need to try for another in free agency. I took a gander at some O-line stats the other day, and Studdard is rated as one of the worst in football in run-blocking and pass protection. We also have no idea if Caldwell is worth a damn. Then you’re asking a rookie to step up on the other side… It’s feasible that the running game somehow gets turned around, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

And therein lies our problem if we hire Cowher or Gruden: it’s going to take a lot of money to build an O-line that can carry out their offensive philosophies. I just get the feeling that if we ditch Kubiak, our passing game is going to tank, and the running game won’t receive enough of a boost to make up for it.

by Nashmeister on Dec 6, 2009 9:57 AM CST reply actions