Jaguars 23, Texans 18
by Tim on Dec 6, 2009 2:59 PM CST
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egh...
is it bad if im not even upset? i just kinda expect it now?
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by Kiratomi on Dec 6, 2009 3:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Exacry
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not even upset....that must be one of the latter stages of depression....
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pathetic.
Our players actually made plays up until that stupid HB pass call. I officially rescind wanting Kubiak back next year, there is just no excuse for that. None.
by nolander on Dec 6, 2009 3:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
It would be less than classless for me to add anything at this point
I wanted very badly for Kubiak to succeed. Ironically it appears now that even 9-7 may snag the WC2. What a pity. This team has the talent to play with any team in the league, and has demonstrated that several times this year. At the same time they are exasperatingly inconsistent. Goes directly to leadership, or lack thereof.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Dec 6, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
9-7?
I wonder what the mathematical chances are that the Texans would get to 9-7 and still qualify over other 9-7 teams. We know they would lose out to the Jags and NY Jets, so they have to finish worse. Who else? The Ravens, Steelers, Broncos, Titans, and Dolphins. It’s a fact. The Texans are not eliminated, yet, with four games remaining and needing to win all of them to get to 9-7 while hoping to bypass all but one of the above teams.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not going to happen. Don't torture yourself by flirting with the possibility.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 7, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I should stop....
It was a purely hypothetical question. Think of what we, as Texans fans are going through. Then think of how the fans of these other teams I mentioned are feeling. Are they feeling hope or are they feeling dismay?
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope, the bane of any fanbase
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 7, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what I told my wife!
I was watching the score of the tits vs Ind….Texans played Ind closer than that, but as I used to hear about the Oilers, we know how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
by txknight on Dec 7, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Chris Brown.
Whatever dirt he has on Kubes must be a doozy.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 6, 2009 3:01 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Brief interlude from pessimism and self-hate.
God bless Matt Schaub for making this a game in the first place by balling up with an injured shoulder. Any questions about that man’s leadership and toughness should be fucking gone.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 3:01 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
The one positive coming out of this game
by cubic on Dec 6, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Ryan Moats did a nice job hitting the hole quickly and not going down easily
by comparison Chris Brown looked like he was wading waistdeep in quicksand.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Dec 6, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone notice
that when Chris Brown is touched he just falls down. His legs completely stop as soon as someone or something brushes against him.
by sammocyr on Dec 6, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This
x10000000000000000
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Schaub said in the locker room…
“Just give some god damn asprin and get be back on the field”
by Ivan A on Dec 6, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Although, it was his own fault for getting hurt.
The ball should’ve been gone, and he didn’t throw it.
He’s always had a bad habit of this.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This.
Schaub hangs on to the ball way too long.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 7, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
More beer
for my tear ducts.
Chris Brown dines on donkey balls…
by Xetuoh on Dec 6, 2009 3:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Chris Brown...
Fumble against Jacksonville, Fumble against Arizona, Interception against Jacksonville…and he’s still in the backfield. God damn someone needs to fire his ass.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't blame him for this
Kubes has the third best qb in the game right now. The guy has been playing his fucking ass off, hurt, and done everything he could to get his team in contention.
And he calls a motherfuckingdicklickingcamelstroking hb option pass?
Fuck. That. Shit.
Fuck. It.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Your high...
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Dec 6, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
best post of the day
I couldn’t have said it better… this is has been a tough season for true Texans fans.
by wasteph on Dec 6, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In his defense...
It WAS open.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it the pass was meant for dressen.
And he was WIDE open. It was a beautifully designed play. The execution was piss poor. They should’ve used Casey instead.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
People are letting the announcers think for them.
1. it was wide open
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
crap
2. it was a play they’d practiced
3. Brown got hit from the side while he threw it. (for some reason, people are thinking he MEANT to throw it where the ball went)
4. Were it LT, the coaches would’ve been praised for trying a very effective play.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But it wasn’t LT. It was Chris Brown. Yes the design of the play was good, but there was absolutely no reason to run it at that point in the game. Taking the ball out of Schaubs hands at that point is criminal.
by nolander on Dec 7, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree to disagree on the play call.
If anything, that’s the PERFECT time for that call.
Consider the facts that we cannot run inside, especially around the goalline, and that teams know this. So, our best shot at running it is an outside run or sweep, yes? You give the player an option to try to run it, or if it’s open (as it so was) throw it. He just threw it a millisecond too late, and got hit.
I’ll ask this… When else in other games do you see this play called? Becuase I only see it called in position we were in.
I know I have absolutely no hope of changing anyone’s mind on this, but I needed to get it out there, just in case someone else thought the same.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same thing.
You can tell me to “get off beefy’s dick” and i’ll say “dont know it till you try it”
Im not agreeing with beefy because he makes a good point, im agreeing with him because i had the same thoughts about the play. It was a perfect time to call a HB pass. It caught their secondary off guard to the point that Dressen(still not sure who it is) was WIDE OPEN in the endzone.
How else where we gonna get to the endzone? By punching it in? Remember the last game against the jags? Chris Brown fumble? Anyone? We have no way of punching it in because we dont have the right personnel for it. It was a shortened field, the endzone would’ve been crowded.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You say, "Consider the facts that we cannot run inside, especially around the goalline, and that teams know this."
But in fact, Chris brown did exactly that on Matt Schaubs return drive to the game. He ran it right up their gut for a TD.
So while the play was an honest attempt by Kubes to be creative and catch them off-gaurd; was Chris Brown the guy you want making that play?
I just think he hs failed in critical situation too often to be trusted with that.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 7, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Perfect Play Call?
Look, I can understand your arguments here. I’m glad that they are thinking outside of the box a little bit. I’m glad the play was drawn up extremely well.
But down 11, with the ball on the 5 and needing two scores, you can’t take the chance of running a gadget play that has a high chance for a turnover, especially on first down. I don’t care how great it looked in practice. I would’ve thought that was a terrible play call even if it HAD worked. If they were up 10? Fine.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Dec 7, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't say the perfect play call.
I said it’s the perfect time to call that play, if you’re going to call it. Plays that don’t work don’t make it into the playbook.
We needed a touchdown, yes? I thought you scored touchdowns by getting the ball across the goalline, which is what they were trying to do.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fretting
Ah okay, I suppose I misread you then.
Not that I wanted the Texans to be downright passive in the red zone, but 3+8 still equals 11. You just can’t take that chance inside the 5, the one place where even Kris Brown probably can’t miss a FG. By all means, if you want to throw a WR screen, or run the shotgun with an empty backfield. I’m fine with that. I know we can’t really run the ball. Hell, at that point we probably couldn’t even sneak the ball due to Schaub’s shoulder.
But you can find lower-risk plays with a solid chance of fooling someone in that situation. Not a gamble I’d be prepared to take as a coach.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Dec 8, 2009 4:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if that's a bad call...
then Norv Turner’s entire staff should be executed. Because they run the shit out of it, in that exact position/situation.
With great success, I might add.
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by beefy on Dec 8, 2009 9:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
flawed logic
personnel, personnel, personnel.
We now know not to throw (any pass play) with Rex at QB, and not to throw a HB pass with Chris Brown. If we got LT, it magically wouldn’t be a bad call. But with Chris Brown, it is a bad call.
Would you, if you were Kubes, try it in the same situation this weekend? I’m guessing he won’t. So, according to all the people that think it was a good call, then its the perfect time to try it again.
I feel like I’m beating my head against a wall.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 8, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That was not a difficult play to make.
We made it difficult by not blocking.
If anything, you guys should say that it was a dumb play call because of Vonta and White, and their inability to block it correctly.
At least put the blame on the guys that fucked it up.
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by beefy on Dec 8, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have banned myself
from commenting on the play.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 8, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well the blocking was atrocious all game
So that just takes me back to square one: it was not a good call.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Dec 13, 2009 4:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure the coaching record of Norv Turner
Isn’t something you want to use in your defense here.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Dec 13, 2009 4:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This play pissed me the hell off.
If I was on the sidelines, I wouldve cut both of Chris Brown’s Achilles Tendon myself.
But you can’t blame this on the coaches. It’s not like they never ran the play ever before. They practiced it during the week. Im pretty sure that there were times that it wasn’t successful and that Kubiak told Brown what to do if he wasn’t able to make the pass. This was all on Chris Brown people. I understand most of the complaints about the poor coaching and I agree to some of them, but this is an example of poor execution by a player and he should be burned into ashes for it. You’re letting your “Fire Kubiak” feelings creep into your brain too much to the point that you attribute everything to poor coaching.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the announcers did nothing to help this.
They didn’t even bother pointing out in the replay that the TE was wide ass open, or that Brown got hit. If you didn’t figure these things out on your own, you had every right to be mad. That upsets me even more, though… that fans can’t see these things on their own, and get all “torch and pitchfork” yelling and screaming about it.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dont get me started on the damn announcers.
The same damn announcers that kept calling Cunta one of the greatest CB in the NFL.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if the TE was wide open
The fact that Brown got hit as he was throwing is a strong indicator that he probably shouldn’t have been throwing it.
Which he would have known if he was an actual quarterback.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 7, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And that's why it's on CB.
Not on Kubiak.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Except the whole thing was Kubiak's idea
Taking the ball out of the hands of your actual quarterback to give it to a guy who is not the quarterback with the game on the line.
I’m pretty sure this wasn’t Chris Brown’s idea.
Which is why I say it’s on Kubiak.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 7, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was Kubiak's Idea.
And I dont know who designed the play, whether it was Kubes or Baby Shan but it was a beautiful play. It served it’s purpose. Catch the secondary off guard and allow Dressen to slip through the secondary wide open. It’s not Kubiak’s fault that Chris Brown got hit the minute he threw or that Chris Brown decided to throw the ball anyway and not just take the loss.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How about
lobbing it up to….. I don’t know, maybe the best receiver in the game. Or try and get Casey the ball if you want to go some other route. Or the PA roll out and throw to Leach which usually seems to work. A million other plays from the 5 yard line could have been called. It was bad from the stand point of being called and bad from the point of execution.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And don't you think that the Jags
are aware that we have the best receiver in the game and that we would try to go to him with the ball. That was the perfect play. Everybody jags player thought it was a run and if it wasn’t for Leach and White missing the block, it would’ve been a touchdown.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is exactly why I was hesitant about throwing it out there...
People have already made up their mind about Kubiak needing to be fired or stay, as well as their thoughts about this play. To think that anyone is going to change that thinking is futility at best.
They cannot and will not be objective.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Only one appropriate response for this.
Sad face.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right after the game....
I’m angry, not thinking clearly. Today I am taking an educated approach to looking at that play. I think Koobs should be fired for being 1-5 in the division, not because of the HB pass playcall.
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by CFHTim on Dec 7, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That argument is valid.
My only response is that we didn’t have enough talent on the roster to be a serious contender. Maybe in the AFC or NFC West, but not as the world sits now.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I happen to agree with this assessment
Nonetheless, I think we have failed to maximize the talent we have, which is a crime imo.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 8, 2009 2:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So
only if I conform to your opinion then I can be objective? That sounds about right.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, the axe is yours to grind...
So, by all means, don’t let me keep you from grinding away at it. Same to everyone else out there with a vendetta to see Kubes gone.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a vendetta
it’s just grown old and tiring. The HB pass didn’t make we want to get rid of Kubes. Also, this isn’t all his fault, the players aren’t doing anything to help him. The reason for wanting change is 1) Not be able to compete in our division -ever. 2) Still, after 8 years we don’t have a winning season 3)No shot at even a WC spot. If we can’t compete in our own division (currently in last place even though we are supposedly progressing as a team) the only thing we will ever get a shot at is a WC. I’m not grinding an axe I’m just sick of the same ole same ole and it’s not ok anymore. Change it all up. Get rid of players and coaches. Trade or cut bait with the guys that don’t perform. We are going to have to face it one way or another, things need to change and this organization needs a complete restructuring. You can try and deny it another season if you want but that’s just how it is.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not denying anything...
You’re right – our record in the division sucks. That is something that no one can debate. What IS up for debate is, why?
Several of us are fairly positive that it’s because we lack even mediocre talent at CB, NT, G, C, and basically every backup spot on the team.
So, sure… It was nice to come into this year, thinking that the few spots that we had good talent (DE, LB, WR, QB, RB, and yes I’ll say it… coaching) were good enough to overcome the bad. Let’s line things up, shall we?
The bags of asses at G and C negated any positives at RB and coaching, meaning the offense that’s predicated on the run, wouldn’t ever be able to look quite right (granted though, the QB and WR strengths kept the train on the tracks between the 20’s) – The shit at NT negated strengths at LB, and – Dick at CB negated our DE’s. Add all that up with the dookie that we have as our backups at almost every roster spot, and you have what we are presently.
Now, the reason I doubt the objectivity of most commenters here is that I don’t feel any of the issues I’ve outlined are being considered in their analysis. They just showed up here angry, and the first comment they read was either a) there was absolutely no reson for that playcall, or b) Kubes needs to go. Then mob-mentality takes over, and again, no one even considers the reasons. It’s far easier to say Fire Kubes than to think, it would seem.
It’s like I said, I know I won’t change a single person’s mind with this, but I also know there are others out there that share my thoughts, but might be too scared of the axe-grinders to voice it.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with everything you said regarding the players and lack thereof and or weaknesses as a team. I think we look at it pretty much the same I guess I’m just in the mind set now that it won’t change and until we do something to shake it up or change it, it will just be more of the same. And trust me, it took me a while to get to the point to want Kubes gone and I really do like the guy but the players aren’t responding to him even if he is a good coach and that tells me you need to change things up or we will have another year just like the last 3. I know the team likes him but they seem to have become complacent under him and I don’t know what caused it or how they can get out of it.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It takes a man to admit...
that they agree with me! Thanks, Bobo.
What I’m wondering is, what did you expect to happen throughout this year, when you know that the talent isn’t good enough? We got extremely lucky with Barber, but type of guys aren’t just out there, waiting for Kubes and Smith to find them. I mean, if it’s just one or two spots, the staff could maybe call plays to hide those guys, but when it’s nearly every position, it’s gonna be tough sledding all year long. Most people wonder how we can find silver linings in losses, and the only way we can is by keeping in mind that we shouldn’t even be close in many of these games, due to the holes in talent.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All that said...
I’m willing to give them one more year to fix those holes, because they’ve done pretty well with many of our other ones. I don’t want anyone to write off anything I say as being a Kubiak fanboy, but to not consider these things isn’t being fair.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I take it
you meant to say Pollard not Barber??? I guess I expected us to be a team at least capable of being competitive. During our 3 game win streak I thought I was finally starting to see my expectations of this team starting to happen. Then we reel of 4 losses in a row even after how we started off the season. If we hadn’t lucked out and won that game against the Tits we would really be in bad shape and I hate to use that becasue I hate it when people say we could easily be 10-2 or some number around there. If that would have happened we would have been swept by every team in our division. We blamed Ike for our 0-4 start last year and this year we are really close to being 4-8 and I think that is what we have become. I almost think we have lost a step this year and I don’t want to say that because I like so many others thought we’ve progressed as a team and with our players but the truth is we really haven’t. We find ways to lose, not to win and I guess I was hoping that would change this year. In my opinion we’ve run out of excuses and I’m not willing to accept them anymore. I have lived and died with this team every year now. Trust me, I know what you mean when you say we try and find a silver lining even when we lose but I’m done with that at least for this season. After the loss to the Tits on Monday night I let go of my emotions for this team. I have watched both games since then and I record them and re watch the plays but I’m done emotionally. I will not let them get me upset or want to throw things at anyone near me. It’s makes it a lot easier to take the losses and not get too bent out of shape – it makes me take standpoint from reality. I agree that there are a lot of holes and I think free agency and veteran players can help but this team doesn’t typically spend the money there and I think it is a shame. And I don’t think you’re a Kubiak fan boy and I respect your opinion, it just happens to be different than mine.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, I definitely meant Pollard.
I see your points, but I’m still puzzled as to how you got to the “fire Kubes” stage, knowing what you know about our talent. Don’t get me wrong… I’m upset that the team’s losing, but I don’t get progressively more upset as the year progresses. It seems like that’s what’s happened to you and others, though.
Also, when you say you thought we’d be “competitive” I can only assume you mean it in that we’d have more wins, and be competitve in the playoff race. Not that we’re not competitive in the games, because we are competitive in that regard.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good question.
You right to some extent about the competitiveness but not pulling out a W in those situations and finding new ways to lose and being dead last in the division does not screem competitive to me. We are 1-5 in the division and are about to be passed up by a team that went 0-6 to start the season. I’m a veteran Houston sports fan and I’m not sure I get more upset as the season goes I think I just end up taking my emotion out of it sooner or later. I’m at the fire Kubes stage b/c I’m to the point where I just don’t think he can get it done. He has a lot of faults as a HC and I was willing to look past some of those but it now appears he has lost this team. I like Kubes but his team won’t play for him but please also know that I don’t put it all on Kubes. I am very disappointed in the players and I think a lot need to be either traded or out right cut. It’s been this frachise’s status quo to put up with mediocrity. In my opinion I don’t think we will be any better next year if we leave everything in place as it is and add a couple of rookies in next years draft. I wish it was a different ending – I like happy endings :-) but it is what it is and I think it’s now time to move on and try another route.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see the team quitting yet.
When I do, I agree that Kubes will have to go. I just don’t see that yet.
Your comment makes me think of another question for you… What is to be lost by letting Kubes coach out his contract? I mean, you guys are constantly saying that losing is the status quo, so what will one more year of it be to you, were it to come out that way? You’re one of the few ‘fire kubes’ people I’ve spoken with that will acknowledge the huge holes in talent, so why not let Smithiak fill a couple more in the offseason (these are holes a new coach would inherit anyway) and give him a year with all the good players we have, and 1-3 less gaping holes (easy, Jordann)? I could see saying no, if he hadn’t gotten any production out of the guys, but to deny that he has is just being blind.
I’d be willing to put up with the lot of commentors who would continue bashing the(ir) team for the first 5-6 weeks before Kubes hopefully won them back over. If he didn’t, it’s just another year of the status quo, right?
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! Another good question...
I’m impressed Beef. Just another season would be lost in my opinion if we let him play it out. No big deal I guess since we are used to it. Me, I’d rather cut bait now and go with someone else. That too could be a waisted season as far as W-L are concerned but it could be a year in where we add new building blocks to this team and start the changes. Beef, I don’t really think it would necessarily be a better year but I think you might just get a years head start over the inevitable. I want to agree with you about having added some talent and I think we have in some regards but I just don’t understand why we are still in the same position we were 3 years ago and you can say we’re not but our record indicates that we are. I am also interested to see what the team does with player contracts this offseason, signings in the offseason and what we do in the draft. I think we can solidify some positions through free agency but that will remain to be seen. I want the same things from this team that you do and really I would hate to see Kubes go but I disagree with you, I think this team has given up on him this year. And for all the things we tried to put in place this year it just unraveled and we will be lucky to finsih 8-8. I’m ready for the change now but I will tell you this, if they go with Kubes for another year I will support that decision and continue to support this team even if I don’t think it’s right. And who know’s, maybe they’ll surprise me next year. I can always count on them surprising me one way or another.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not trying to interupt a good argument but.....
Even if the records have been similar, there is way more talent on this roster than there was when Koobs got here. I agree there are still many missing pieces, and an overall lack of depth, especially in the secondary, and on both lines. But this team has much more talent than when he took over.
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by CFHTim on Dec 7, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gaping holes?!
Did anybody say gaping holes?!?!
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've supported Kubes since day one
I don’t have a vendetta against him at all. I’ve just come to the conclusion that the team has reached its peak with him as the coach and we need to move on.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 8, 2009 2:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
re: peak
I agree that we’ve reached the peak with the players we have. Of course, a good portion of those players are the “holes” I speak about.
Should Kubes be run out of town for not constantly getting players to play BETTER than they are?
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by beefy on Dec 8, 2009 9:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's just the thing
I don’t agree that we’ve reached our peak with the players we have, particularly on defense, although you could make that argument with all the injuries we’ve had of late.
Still, I am of the opinion that we may not have a bunch of superstars, but we are playing lower than our talent level, especially on d.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 9, 2009 2:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see Dreesen.
OK. I’ll take back all the bad I said about the OC calling that play, but I didn’t see a white jersey withing 10 yards of that ball. CB looked awkward at best when he pulled back to throw it. Forget about him being hit, when I saw him draw back I didn’t give him a chance in hell of a completion unless the receiver was 2 yards away or less, hit or no.
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by txknight on Dec 7, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That was
a crap play period. And about 9 out of 10 times that I ever see that Jr. High played called in the pros it is intercepted. Crap play call and Beef quit with the excuse we couldn’t run the ball in. We did it earlier in the game on a 5-6 yarder by CB. Moats was running the ball well too so no, that play should have never been called. The last time I saw hat play was when Reggie Wayne tried to throw it and Pollard intercepted it. Just more of the same.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean the last time you saw another player
throwing the ball that’s not a QB, it was intercepted by the defense.
Coz the last time I saw a HB pass, it was a touchdown from Addai to Wayne. We were running the ball fine. But we were in the red zone. Inside the ten. Things are different. The defense tightens up. They get an advantage because there’s less field to cover.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh,
good point and the exact one I wanted to make (about the shortened field). Do you really want CB to try and thread it to someone in the endzone with all 22 players out there in a condensed area. Maybe I could see this play called on our own 40 yard line but not on a short field where he almost has to be pin point accurate with his throw.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Except.
He didn’t have to be pin point accurate. Dressen was wide open and everybody bit on the fake run. All he had to to was chunk it there. Around Dressen’s vicinity and it would’ve been a touchdown. Most of the coverage was focused on Andre and that’s what enabled Dressen to be wide open. On our own 40 yard line, it would’ve been a disaster. Chris Brown is a fuck up but I know damn well that he’s a better football player than any of us in here and if I say that everybody in here could’ve made that throw, im not lying.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On that play
no he didn’t and he still managed to flub it up. Are you surprised? And if you answered no then that should tell you Kubes was out of his mind for calling that play.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But he didn't fuck it up.
Leach and White fucked it up.
If you would watch the play again, you would see what im talking about. But you refuse.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the play
over and over again. It was all messed up. They all messed up on that play. But I guess you can just keep saying what the Texans said “it worked all week in practice”.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not everybody messed up on that play.
Dre did his job by occupying the FS and the CB and probably an OLB on the left side of the field. Dressen cleverly snuck in between the tackles and found that wide open space for CB to throw the ball. Im not taking the Texans word that it worked all week in practice. Im forming my opinion from what I saw on the replays. That everybody bit on the fake toss play to CB and the defense was caught off guard by the designed play. I watched it about 10 times now and im starting to remove the blame from Chris Brown. It’s looking more and more like it was a miscommunication between Chris White and Vonta Leach. Two defenders coming at CB and he had two blockers in front of him. He trusted those players to make that block and they didn’t so he got hit as he threw.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Jordann
CB already ran it in earlier in the game from about that far out. We could run the ball yesterday when we wanted to. It was just a really bad play call and horrible execution of the play. Here’s one question you have to ask yourself, If you were the coach and you knew everything you knew about CB (fumbles, inability to run with the football, and most likely an inability to throw a football, and the propensity to let you down at the end of a game) would you put the ball in his hands to throw a pass with a short field? We all cringe when he gets the ball, we all ask why they hell Kubes has him back there playing or even starting for that matter so this was one call he shouldn’t have made, he has no excuse.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So you're wondering why Kubes keep using Chris Brown
but you’re saying that we shouldve used Chris Brown to run the ball down there because Chris brown was running it for 5-6 yds yesterday? Im confused.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
thats not what I said at all.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I OBJECT!!
Grounds?
Because it’s DEVASTATING TO MY CASE!
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I never said I wonder why
Kubes keeps using CB. I said the play he called was terrible and he shouldn’t have called it and there were plenty of other calls he could have made down there. CB, Ryan Moats, Steve Slaton have no business throwing the ball at the goal line.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Jordann
CB already ran it in earlier in the game from about that far out. We could run the ball yesterday when we wanted to. It was just a really bad play call and horrible execution of the play. Here’s one question you have to ask yourself, If you were the coach and you knew everything you knew about CB (fumbles, inability to run with the football, and most likely an inability to throw a football, and the propensity to let you down at the end of a game) would you put the ball in his hands to throw a pass with a short field? We all cringe when he gets the ball, we all ask why they hell Kubes has him back there playing or even starting for that matter so this was one call he shouldn’t have made, he has no excuse.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If that’s not wondering, I dont know what is.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I see what you point to
but I guess what I was really trying to say is that we (meaning most of us) gripe about him being back there and question it. In this situation, with Slaton out and all things considered I had no problem giving him the ball to try and run it in. I knew why he was using him to some extent in this game but I would have like to see Moats get the majority of the work. I would let CB run it and if he had fumbled or got stopped then so be it, I would probably blast him but not Kubes for it. My point was we all question the use of CB which is understandable but letting him try and throw it in from 5 yards out is inexcusable. So while I question his ability back there it would not have changed me letting him try and run it in. So yes Jordann, I do question why he uses him just like everyone else and yes instead of having CB throw the ball I would have handed it off to him so maybe you are still confused but bottom line is I would have probably called a completly diffent play with someone else back there but I really would have had no problem with them trying to let him run it in instead of throwing it. Bottom line: It was a piss pore play call and he had no business running that play with Brown, Slaton or Moats in there. Kubes has no excuse for that play call but I can excuse him for having CB back there in the first place.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where your logic is flawed is pretty damning to Jordann and I...
In that, we completely agree with the play call, and see its merits. Regardless of who was back there, it was a good call, and did exactly what it was supposed to do. You’re taking the mentality, it would seem, that they’d never practiced it. Just drew it up in the dirt right before they tried it. You’re also assuming that since CB has had some issues, he has absolutely no business on the field at all. For all you know, he’s got a better arm and accuracy than Tom Brady. Just because he’d never done it before, means absolutely nothing.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So what you're saying is
that you blame Kubiak but you dont blame Kubiak?
scratches head
Im still confused.
And you question his use of CB eventhough you already know why he’s using CB?
Im sorry. Im still not getting it.
Im just gonna move on.
I would let CB run it and if he had fumbled or got stopped then so be it, I would probably blast him but not Kubes for it.
So if Kubiak calls a toss and Chris Brown get’s blown up and fumbles, you would blame him. But if Kubiak calls a HB pass and Chris White and Vonta Leach misses the key blocks and CB gets hit as he throws the ball causing an interception, you would blame Kubiak? It sure looks like the blame should be on Chris White and Vonta Leach, not on Kubiak.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeebus,
Yes I question CB being back there but IF I had to use the guy back there (forced) he would not be throwing a flippin pass at teh 5 yard line for his first time in his career with the game on the line. So I was trying to answer your question. Pose it as if I was the HC what would you do? I wouldn’t have CB back there in the first place and I wouldn’t have run that play regardless of whos back there. And yes, if CB fumbles I would blame him for the fumble and not Kubes just like I blame Slaton for all those fumbles. What the hell are you trying to say or ask? Shit if I was the coach he wouldn’t have been back there and if I Kubes asked me directly at the time should he try and run the ball or opt for some HB pass BS, I would tell the man to run it. Now do you understand?
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I get it...
If you were coach, you’d have 54 ProBowlers on your team.
I must say, that strategery seems pretty airtight.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are forgetting the next game where Wayne throw a pick to Pollard :-p
by nolander on Dec 7, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
That was the one I was refering to. It just doesn’t make sense.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Im not forgetting.
It’s just a different play. It’s not a well designed HB pass.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'm obviously wrong.
I don’t doubt that. I’ve clearly missed all the success that we’ve had with running the ball between the takles.
I’m such an idiot.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I
wasn’t going to say it.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a chance that Kubiak is fired this week?
I’m not saying that I want that, just wondering
by Stevie Wonder on Dec 6, 2009 3:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nah
We even waited for the season to end for Capers.
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 6, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
even if it was out of hatred
you gotta wait until we’re mathematically eliminated, I would think.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if hes ever gonna do it… hes gonna do it this week otherwise, hes going to wait for the contract to go out.
by Ivan A on Dec 6, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two things..
The offensive playcalling and are ability to make each quarterback look like Montana. Ridiculous. Oh and not to mention, why the hell was Chris Brown such a huge part of the damn offense today?
Now it is time to go study the reproductive system.
by Jahon on Dec 6, 2009 3:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
why bother
they might as well lose all of their games and get joe haden and get a new coach
by Joe25 on Dec 6, 2009 3:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
screw haden
lets get ajsfanfasjfn suh. That kid is a beast.
by Jahon on Dec 6, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One problem with that
Even if the Texans tank the rest of their games, he’ll be gone before we get to pick. Besides, I’d rather get Toby Gerhart so there’s incentive to get rid of Chris Brown
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
na
i would rather have jonathan dwyer
I Hate You
by Joe25 on Dec 6, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He could work
He’d probably would go later in the draft as well
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gerhart's not a 1st round talent...
…so he may stay one more year.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont drink
but i feel like picking up a new habbit….
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by Kiratomi on Dec 6, 2009 3:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's a part of being a Texan fan! Cheers!
by Xetuoh on Dec 6, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A true Texans knows his liquor
Just too bad I was at work on a Sunday, or I would have been getting plastered myself
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's Texans fan
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be careful though espiecially when your drinking during the game…
Brown didnt just cost us the game, but my TV…
The jags caught his pass
my tv caught the bottle.
by Ivan A on Dec 6, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
At the Steelers about to lose to Oakland.
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 6, 2009 3:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
they did
the rest of the league is trying to help us out
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There's the real irony, and it's oh so cruel
it’s looking like a mediocre record may make the playoffs. Were not even mediocre.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Dec 6, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Raiders just drove and took the lead with :09 to play.
Even the Raiders can play football right. GODDAMNIT!
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just wow.
I may very well not watch football again until January 7th.
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by Shake on Dec 6, 2009 3:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is that a BCS reference?
I have bled Orange for nearly 50 years, but that game Saturday night was downright painful to watch. If UT doesn’t get their shit together, they may get embarassed in Pasadena.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Dec 6, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In a way, I feel sad
I always liked Kubes. I really wanted him to succeed. He did a very good job in erasing the incompetence of the Capers/Casserly years.
But now, he has to go. Sorry Gary. I mean every word in that sentence.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
In some ways, I like BRB better when we suck
I think it is because we, as fans, are better at dealing with losing than with winning.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Texans Fans, the most masochistic fanbase in the league
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sad, if we win out 9-7 would keep Kubes his job I'm guessing.
by goingforthecorner on Dec 6, 2009 3:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not Gonna Happen
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 6, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
New England just lost...
….there’s no way we’re finishing 9-7.
Heck, right now I’d be surprised if we finished 6-10. This team finds new ways to lose every single week.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
8-8, here we come
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would just like to point out that BRUCE FUCKING GRADKOWSKI just organized a last minute game winning drive for the Raiders against the Steelers.
TEXANS BLOW.
Can we PLEASE stop equivocating now about Kubiak and just say it is time for a change. They are going BACKWARDS this season.
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by TexansForever on Dec 6, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
where the hell was cushing the entire game?
3 tackles? that’s a pretty poor performance. besides him our front seven played great. we had 4 sacks, and only allowed MJD to 76 yds rushing and no TD’s. Kubiak is done, we need a new coach next year definitely. that HB pass play was terrible execution. i hope kubiak called that because if shanahan did then that’s not good.(another reason to fire kubiak, it’s not a big thing, but little things contribute to firings.)
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by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cushing had his worst game as a pro
IMO.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck
If Cushing gets his hands up on that 3rd-down blitz where he was clean to Garrard…….but fuck, instead he just goes in with a lowered shoulder.
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by Shake on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and get Cush a wide open hit on the QB
10 more times, and he pump fakes it every time, and Cushing destroys him.
That time he threw it.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You better watch what you say about Cush
You dont want Rip showing up on your doorstep crying about how it wasn’t Cushing’s fault.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the play
I thought the same thing…if only he got his arms up, he might have deflected that pass….
And agree also, with the initial thought that it wasn’t Cushing’s best game. He seemed to get left out of a lot of plays. Not sure if it was because the Jags were focusing on blocking him out or if he just wasn’t following the plays. Anyone else want to put some light on this, chime in, please. I would like to hear more of what everyone saw.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He got absolutely embarrassed on that pass play to their tight end. Just didn’t have a good game. I’m expecting him to bounce back next week and rip some arms off.
by nolander on Dec 7, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was yelling at a lot of the LB's in this game...
There were some good plays, but there were a lot of plays, especially in that last Jags drive where tackling was a big issue. Third and 8 for a dancing first down through about 4 missed arm tackles, ugh! I know, one play is not the whole game, but there were too many of those plays.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you noticed in the last couple games
They are lining Cushing up on the line of scrimmage in the down position? I don’t agree with that strategy. He is too small to take on any offensive lineman head on. My recommendation is they need to do more stunting with and having the LB’s find the open lane, like they did on DeMeco’s sack. Let the LB play heads up, so he can see the field and find the open rushing lane and come in off the side of an offensive lineman. None of the LB’s can drive thru the O-line.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brown's decision to throw is the stupidest single decision I've seen all year.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
someone should tell him he plays for the texans….
(he’s such a lousy player, i dont think he would even pick him self in a fantasy league)
by Ivan A on Dec 6, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good news
THE RAIDERS!!! hahahaha
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by Kiratomi on Dec 6, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
raiders got a talented team
they got an amazing defense.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Deadskins beat the Saints
The Raiders beat the Steelers.
And we lose to the fucking Jaguars. I just want to point that out.
by cubic on Dec 6, 2009 3:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Saints actually beat the the Skins in OT
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
can you guys believe that every almost every single team in the wild card hunt lossed?
if we go 9-7, it could be interesting where the standings are. 9-7 is likely because we have an easy schedule and lets pray that belichick rests his starters in week 17.
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
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by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not gonna happen.
NE is going to need that game.
This team will find ways to lose.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So is Miami
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by Shake on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that is optimism.
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
0-2 against the Jags
who are in the hunt.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It depends how schaub shoulder is…
if he aint in it… seasons over.
by Ivan A on Dec 6, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Memo:
The season is over.
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If that's the case...
Someone should let Seattle, St. Louis, Miami, and New England know. They probably don’t want to get suited up for nothing.
by Barrett on Dec 7, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is the case.
Yeah, St. Louis and the Texans should be one helluva game. I’m sure all the networks are bidding for that one. Oh and you’re right, they aren’t playing for nothing, the Dolphins and the Patriots will be playing for a chance at the playoffs.
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The networks don't bid on who gets the games.
Actually, it’s pretty simple who gets them.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know Beef.
I was just being an ass.
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The playing field is level, then.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason
Andre Johnson faced a secondary missing its two best corners and had significantly less than 5 million yards.
Someone explain this to me.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Simple
Sexy Rexy was in at QB for a time, as was Chris Brown, the Superstar Redzone HalfBack.
by distant_texans_fan on Dec 6, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
We were only missing our best CB, and playing our second and 3rd best. If it helps, you guys have gotten the “inside track” on how good our 2nd best CB to going to be.
by KeithG on Dec 7, 2009 5:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ass to it the fact bama is going to ass rape the horns
Bad week for texas
hope the cowboys lose
by AllenOU on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
yea bama is going to spank UT.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
People said the same thing about USC in 05. I'll give the Horns a shot.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
theres proof though
when you beat nebraska on your home turf(in dallas stadium) on the last second after the kicker kicks it out of bounds to set up great field positon. that’s embarrassing, bama is going to kick the shit out of UT.
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by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's that proof of?
That Texas found a way to win a championship.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they had vince young and an incredible offensive line
mccoy was sacked 9 or 10 times last night. thats horrible.
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by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ndamukong Suh is the best player on defense.
Mount Cody isn’t a pass rushing threat. It’s a different team.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nebraska and Alabama are two different teams.
And last night’s Nebraska defense was, by far, the best defensive performance I’ve seen of any game all season.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Coaching
I like to give a lot of leeway to coaches, as anyone who argued with me about Kubiak last week can attest to. It takes a lot to get me mad enough to want to off a coach.
Calling a half-back pass on first and goal down 11 is a fireable offense. That’s not a “you can keep your job the rest of the season” thing. That’s something where you should be immediately escorted off the field in the middle of the game.
I said the same thing about Bush after the Chris Johnson blown coverage. I don’t know that it’s possible to separate mediocre coaches from good coaches, but I do know that you have to be a bad coach to let something THAT illogical happen on the field.
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
bush has been really good after those first three games though.
we should keep him.
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by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This team is 5-7.
Ain’t no one safe. And no one should be safe (Andre and Schaub aside).
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't agree
The Texans’ d is not even average.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One word:
No.
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
obviously Bush would go with Kubiak
thats what I was telling you last week when I said Kubiak was responsible for him.
Ain’t no way either coordinator stays with a new coach. And it won’t be because Smith fires them.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think that was a play
i think that was brown thinkin on his own….
Look where he threw… no one in sight…
by Ivan A on Dec 6, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that rookie corner cox played a great game.
give him credit.
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What a weird game
What a big battle. It was a huuuuuuuuge battle.
Don’t be upset dear Texans fans. You have still a very good team. All you need is a bit MORE time.
Good luck and wins in the last 4 games!
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Respect - the Zoltan is classy
But you are dead wrong about one thing: we don’t have a good team.
And we don’t need more time. We need more coach.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
rec'd for truth
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by Kiratomi on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd.....we have a mediocre team with no heart or sense of purpose.
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by TexansForever on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember the knock the piss outta someone speech?
I miss those days :(
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have a good team
Just need some DBs.
Kubiak is another story. I wish you at least 8-8. Beat the Pats on the last game!!!!!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 6, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone from Romanaslovakikraine is cool it seems. Always glad to see the "Z" around.
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by TexansForever on Dec 7, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this makes me cry....
and cut myself… im out of time… i wanted to win now…. or at least just once in teh last 5 weeks….
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by Kiratomi on Dec 6, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Calling it now
We will lose to either St. Louis or Seatlle. We will lose at LEAST one of those games.
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 6, 2009 3:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd say St. Louis
This team might get cocky, if that’s even possible
by Stevie Wonder on Dec 6, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree.
st louis is scary when the play to their best.
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by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they*
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
THE MORE WE LOSE, THE BETTER!
Let’s start draft discussion.
Tennessee SUCKS
by Texan Dan on Dec 6, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't go along with this
I still want us to win.
Plus, early draft picks are a sucker bet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No way
Now that we’ve gone from contenders to fringe contenders to non-contenders, we’ll start winning games against bad teams.
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
GOODBYE KUBIAK
What the fuck were you thinking? HB passs when you’re playing well, you don’t need a GD trick play. Fuck you and little Shanahan! Well miss you(not really).
-Looking for a team to root for into the playoffs
Tennessee SUCKS
by Texan Dan on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Go COLTS...
No takers?
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Dec 6, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There's always the Saints
We adopted most of their population, why not adopt their team?
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 7, 2009 12:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because when we adopted their population our crime rate doubled?
I will be pulling for the Jags.
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by TexansForever on Dec 7, 2009 8:12 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Saints are undefeated, plus there's no history or reason to hate them
Jags are in the division, making it tough for me to root for them.
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 7, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we were to go in the playoffs
It would make the division look even better.
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by TheTealDeal on Dec 7, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Go Jaguars,
We’re too alike
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by TheTealDeal on Dec 7, 2009 8:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is why we don't have any bandwagon fans here
the wheels always fall off
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's a plus
Any bandwagon fans will go back to following, uhm, some other team.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew it!
At training camp when i saw Chris Brown and was close to him, i should have cut his leg off when i had the chance….damnit chris brown for making me regret that…
u are a terrible player!
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 6, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Salt in the wound
I just watched Brady Quin engineer a very good touchdown drive against the Chargers. You know what Mangini didn’t call in the redzone? A fucking halfback pass.
Except Josh Cribbs is a helluva lot more likely to succeed with that than Chris Brown.
by cubic on Dec 6, 2009 3:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I blame the draft and injuries
We’ve consistently picked D-Line and little to no improvement there. This has cost us the chance to get a couple of good CB’s or Safetys. Now that we’ve had a couple of injuries, we are really badly exposed deep.
Plus OD going down. Did anyone see that? I still can’t find a highlight (or lowlight ) of how he was injured.
by distant_texans_fan on Dec 6, 2009 3:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
they sacked garrard 5 times!
Tennessee SUCKS
by Texan Dan on Dec 6, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
one of few bright spots.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And still lost!
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not talking about today.
Today, yes, they played okay. But over the season, would you say they’ve been stellar? And the highlight of our defense?
by distant_texans_fan on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
Saints just tied the game
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 6, 2009 3:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
At least we're not skins fans.
We got that going for us.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
how is this any different?
Tennessee SUCKS
by Texan Dan on Dec 6, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they expect to lose...
wait… nvm
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by Kiratomi on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unreal
INT. Saints are about to win.
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shame
I like Jason Campbell. It takes some kind of guts to keep going out there when your owner is actively trying to throw you under the bus.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the NFL.com matchtracker
This looks to be a real purse-fight here.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he'd be a great backup here next year.
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lollerskates.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I really wasn't kidding. Haha.
I think he’s pretty solid.
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by riversmccown on Dec 7, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is so sad
we are blogging about the skins and saints when our team just lost. fuck kubiak.
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good
I went to college in VA and Skins fans are horrible. I love rooting against them, and it brings me joy to see them collapse in the fourth quarter.
by cubic on Dec 6, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I kind of got that from when I lived in DC too.
Never seen a fanbase so bipolar as the Skins. They’re either superbowl champs or the ’08 Lions. No in between with them.
At least we’re consistent in going with the ’08 Lions comparison.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed about Skins
I was stationed in the Hampton Roads area for a while…Skins fans are intolerable. They will not shut their GD mouth after a win and want the entire organization run out of town after a loss.
Maybe it’s the NFC East…seems to beget bad fans.
by Barrett on Dec 7, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Texans have less bandwagon fans
and less Dan Snyder.
by cubic on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank fucking Durga for that.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
how come we are horrible in fourth and everyone else isn’t?
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 6, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW
There is a guy on 610 just screaming about The Texans
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 6, 2009 3:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like Ingram out of Alabama
It's time for us Texans fans to start our mock drafts.
by Texan Dan on Dec 6, 2009 3:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
but I think he’s playing college for another year, dammit.
It's time for us Texans fans to start our mock drafts.
by Texan Dan on Dec 6, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good night everybody
I leave you with the following thoughts:
God hates us.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 6, 2009 3:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and we have been smote by his might…
It's time for us Texans fans to start our mock drafts.
by Texan Dan on Dec 6, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahah
Just got an email that the person who was supposed to chart the other half of the Jacksonville game was blacked out of it.
Now I might have to watch this whole shitfest again. Sigh.
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 3:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
close your eyes and think happy thoughts like, “at least i’m alive” or “at least a I haven’t been stabbed in the heart”…..— oh wait that just happened, again..
It's time for us Texans fans to start our mock drafts.
by Texan Dan on Dec 6, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we don't even have a curse that we can blame it on
do we?
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 3:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yea its called the hiring losers to coach our team curse
It's time for us Texans fans to start our mock drafts.
by Texan Dan on Dec 6, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There has to be some way to blame Frank Reich for all of this, surely?
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes there is
If he never led the Bills in that 1992 comeback, Houston could have gone to the Super Bowl, probably getting the Oilers some kind of deal on a stadium, the Titans wouldn’t exist, & we wouldn’t be suffering with the Texans
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate you.
Way to bring the one of the worst days of my life back into play to my current suicidal thoughts. Ignorance is bliss dammit!
by BrownCrayon on Dec 6, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What? You don't think I wasn't scarred by that?
I was only 9 years old when that happened, & that game made me sick. I still get sick every time I think about that. That was the best Oilers team I ever got to see, & I was heartbroken by that.
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was 10.
It still haunts me to this day. I was watching on living room floor at my grandfathers house. I had never heard him swear before that day.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
by CFHTim on Dec 6, 2009 6:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The best case against prevent defense I ever saw!
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
by txknight on Dec 7, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How about the curse of Brown
think about it… it works for this season.
maybe slaton spent too much time around brown and it rub off on him.
by Ivan A on Dec 6, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll call it the Curse of Casserly.....
Cause he screwed the Texans from draft pick 1 (Tony Boselli or David Carr….however you want to slice it.)
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The after show is hilarious
Check it out on 610am. The callers are funny as shit.
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 6, 2009 3:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 6, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew we would lose
As soon as Schaub came out of the game on that first sack. Yet this team still managed to get my hopes up at the end there.
Can’t they just get blown out for once? Fuck! Need more alcohol.
by OremLK on Dec 6, 2009 3:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Halfback pass?!?!? Bad enough call...
BUT THEN YOU DECIDE TO LET CHRIS BROWN THE THE HALFBACK WHO IS PASSING???
WHY??
BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN SO CLUTCH?!?!?
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by TexansForever on Dec 6, 2009 3:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So
Haden in the first
Nate Davis in the second
then o line and a RB
by AllenOU on Dec 6, 2009 3:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Depends on what the new coach wants.
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by TexansForever on Dec 6, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
too pissed to read the previous comments, but...
Whomever even thought the Chris Brown play would be a good idea should be fired IMMEDIATELY. Kubes should be fired tomorrow for allowing it to actually happen.
And Chris Brown should have been cut the last time we played JAX (or did we forget that fumble?). This is what happens when you let shitty players linger on your roster.
by grungedave on Dec 6, 2009 3:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good game Texans,
If it’s any consolation prize, I suffered through the game. i forgot my Jacket and got 4 hours of sub-50 wind in my face.
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by TheTealDeal on Dec 6, 2009 4:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Grats man. Hope you guys tear it up in the playoffs. I will be rooting for you.
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by TexansForever on Dec 6, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you,
I think we just might stumble into the playoffs this year.
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by TheTealDeal on Dec 6, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Goins to San Diego or cinci
With mjd and that same pesky d might surprise some. I’ll be rooting for em
garrard is my fantasy backup and Warner is shaky!
by AllenOU on Dec 6, 2009 4:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Good for you...
Judging from the plethora of empty seats at the game, I commend you. The Jags are 7-5 now and it reminds me of the Marlins World Series team…nobody cares. Unfortunate.
by Barrett on Dec 7, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry that you've been disappointed again
Id think you be over it
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by TheTealDeal on Dec 7, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brought this up in the fourth quarter thread but nobody answered
So fellas, who is our new coach?
Any actual ideas on this one?
(No, Cowher doesn’t count as an idea.)
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 4:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad thought.
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel
he would at the least not put p.o.s. players in the game like busing and players would be held accountable
by Draco on Dec 6, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You keep saying Busing but no one who we had that was healthy showed themselves to be a better player. Seriously, Russel is certainly worse or as bad, and Barber has had a horrible season.
by nolander on Dec 6, 2009 6:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes early on barber sucked
but playing as FS he has been miles better than busing
by Draco on Dec 6, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Barber has looked much better than Busing this year
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 9:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How about Brian Billick?
We could grab Frazier to be our DC as well
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
billicks
offenses were attrocius I mean just awful, dow e want to end up with another jeff tedford qb? cause we will if we bring billick anywhere near this team
by Draco on Dec 6, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well we have Schaub, needing a new QB shouldn't be a problem
It’s not his fault Boller sucked, he was a bust
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
true
but he stuck with him even after he had proved to be awful. If we need a new O.C. I would call Fat Charlie as his ass may suck as a H.C. but hes a damn good O.C.
by Draco on Dec 6, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who else did he have?
Boller was his best option, & that option sucked
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And We had David Carr
and he sucked and we got rid of him. He has probably the best GM in the business at his disposal and he never did a thing about it. The ravens O is light years ahead of the billick days now under Harbaugh
by Draco on Dec 6, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ever think the GM was too invested in Boller to replce him?
Just like we waited a year to get rid of Carr when Kubiak was hired?
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that no
but my main point is billick as a H.C. relied on some the greatest Defenses in the history of the league to win him games and as our D is no where near as good as those I do not think he would be a good hire
by Draco on Dec 6, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, our defense is getting there
Just have a few holes to plug up
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Billick was
an awesome offensive coordinator for the Vikes. He didn’t have many options at QB in Baltimore. Who? Elvis?
by sammocyr on Dec 6, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And you think that Leslie Frazier would leave Minnesota to be the
Defensive Cooridnator of the Texans why? He is already DC of a much better team. And oh yeah he is the assistand Head Coach too…
The only way the Texans nab Frazier is if they make him the Head Coach.
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by hoosier in sodak on Dec 6, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which was my point
rivers asked for ideas on our new head coach and I mentioned Frazier, which is why this whole conversation started
by Draco on Dec 6, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not too sold on Billick
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Needs to have a successful defensive track record
whoever it is.
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by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Cowher as HC, Billick as OC, & Rob Ryan as DC?
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gruden ?
He would have his quarterback, in Schaub. Bring in a top notch D Coordinator, it might work.
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by CFHTim on Dec 6, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gruden would run off too many players
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gruden would hate Schaub
He only likes QB situations when he has 4 average or worse ones.
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm watching again
And that hb pass was maybe the worst play I have ever seen in a football game
and Andre is a beast. He is gonna leave when he can if we don’t get some shit straight
by AllenOU on Dec 6, 2009 4:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
we may lose all of our good players
if we don’t do something drastic
by Draco on Dec 6, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously who the hell was he throwing it to?
Was this an actual play that kubes thought of? Because if it was, and is i dont think he should last the week.
Or was this Browns quick thinking that said… i’m gonna lose yards here, i better throw it
by Ivan A on Dec 6, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure there was an open receiver
I saw a white guy open in the back of the end zone. I think it was dreesen who peeled off the back side of the line and dragged across. He was open, and Chris Brown couldn’t even get a handle on it to throw it.
by BigTexBD on Dec 6, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well its Official then
I’m on the Fire Kubiak ASAP bandwagon….
by Ivan A on Dec 6, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome aboard
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow... didnt think it would be this croweded.
by Ivan A on Dec 6, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Getting more crowded every week
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
when do you think the owner will hop on.
by Ivan A on Dec 6, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we hand the Rams their second win
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i would strangle myself with my battle red jersey....
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by Kiratomi on Dec 6, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Save that rage
you might need it to strangle McNair to convince him to fire Kubiak
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
kubes and chris brown
The bad thing about chris browns play was the GOSH DAMN PLAY CALL. I have been a Kubiak fan, but how can this continue? I think it would be better to fire him now and give the new coach the rest of the year to start his new program.
by texans will win on Dec 6, 2009 4:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Proved he was a coordinator and nothing more.
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kubiak made the call on the half back pass
they’ve been doin it all week in practice, and Chris never had a problem.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 5:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
But Why?
I will never understand why you want a runningback passing on first and goal.
by texans will win on Dec 6, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
when your job is on the line
no less
and its Chris Brown.
There’s not a way out of that. The bootleg that ended up the Rosencopter was a bad play call as well, but only coupled with other disasters.
This is not defendable.
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by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There was no need for that. We coulda punched it in just fine.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The only HB I would want throwing the ball is LT & Ronnie Brown
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by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, the down and distance make that decision indefensible
We had not used any gadget plays all game and were steadily moving the ball with Schaub at the helm. When Kubiak invents a new way to lose, he is putting the rope in McNair’s hands.
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by oiler-texan diehard on Dec 6, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
texanphil, TexansDC, and O-TD nailed it IMO.
Had we not been able to move the ball against them, maybe a trick play is the way to go. Our offense was doing just fine and we had three (four?) downs to get in the end zone. Disgusting.
by Barrett on Dec 7, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the video link texanphil
When asked about the HB option he answers that it was a bad call. Unbelievable that he could not realize that at the time he was making the decision to run the play.
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by oiler-texan diehard on Dec 6, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you still not trade Del Rio for Kubiak?
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 6, 2009 5:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would not
ever, ever, do that.
no.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Del Rio is a douchebag.
At least Koobs is a swell guy, and we love swell guys that don’t win jack shit, here in Houston.
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by CFHTim on Dec 6, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Not a chance
Your team only played a little better than ours today. You should have wiped us out in the first half when Schaub was out. Instead, we were one unbelivably bone-headed decision away from winning.
by LedTexan on Dec 6, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Void
We’ll keep our D-Bag.
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by TheTealDeal on Dec 6, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Holmgren.
Butchered spelling i’m sure
by texans will win on Dec 6, 2009 5:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
As much as I'd like the idea
Holmgren wants a front office job, & I doubt McNair would be desperate enough to make him Head Coach & GM.
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He didn't exactly tear it up without Favre
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by riversmccown on Dec 6, 2009 9:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually think
It would be a bad idea for the Seahawks to bring him back even.
by JimboTexan on Dec 6, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
back to
lovable loser status.
When at first you don’t succeed, lower your expectations.
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by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 5:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Or let the runningback throw the ball.
by texans will win on Dec 6, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Saints?
I guess I’ll have to pull for the Saints in the playoffs.
by texans will win on Dec 6, 2009 6:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone else get the same feeling as me when they saw this.
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2009/12/i_keep_thinking.html
I haven’t read the article. I don’t want to.
But the moment I saw Dicky Justice saying we might have a good finsh, I knew we was jinxed.
And. “Dey tuk argh jobs”!!!
by distant_texans_fan on Dec 6, 2009 6:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what he will say now.
by texans will win on Dec 6, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
terk ur jerbs
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by CFHTim on Dec 6, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I couldn’t figure out how to write that. lol
by distant_texans_fan on Dec 6, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jacoby Jones picked a great time to show his true colors.
At least he didnt have to watch this horrible game in person. After all the horrible plays, Jaques Reeves had a ball hit him in his hands, and dropped it. While the Jags get a big interception off a deflection, the Texans don’t make the plays with the game on the line.
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by CFHTim on Dec 6, 2009 6:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How about Dunta’s awesome job?
by texans will win on Dec 6, 2009 6:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Dunta.
Glad he is playing his last games as a Texan. Was throwing shit at the walls when the horrible CBS announcing team kept calling him one of the best corners in football. And his name is Brice McCain, not fucking Brian ! It’s your fucking job to know the names of the players in the game, CBS has bush league NFL coverage.
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by CFHTim on Dec 6, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Gus Johnson and Steve Tasker, todays announcers are both terrible
I liked Tasker as a player, but calling Dunta one of the best CB’s in the league is just foolish. Pre-injury he wasn’t even an elite CB.
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by oiler-texan diehard on Dec 6, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You would think that the people calling the game would at least know the names of the players that are going to be playing in the game. Wishful thinking, I suppose.
by Barrett on Dec 7, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You would think
the announcers would know Dunta isn’t one of the best corners in the league, but they said it at least three times. And they went ahead and made fun of Koobs decision to run the HB pass, but never mentioned that the playcall worked. The tight end was wide open in the back of the end zone, the player did not execute the play. If Grossman were still in the game at the time, the call would have made more sense. But it is a curious play to call with the entire season riding in the balance.
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by CFHTim on Dec 7, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was Chris White and Vontae Leach that didn't make the block.
If they at least held up the LB’s for a second it wouldve been a TD
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
it looked like Leach and White both went to block the same guy, and both missed the other guy.
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by CFHTim on Dec 7, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
If you watch it again, even the safety up top and the LB in the middle was out of position and even if Chris Brown threw that with an accuracy of a 12 yr old girl, dressen would’ve caught it because there was so much room to work with. Too bad he got hit as he threw.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and if we didn’t fumble on the goal line and if we could have gained just half a yard and if Kris Brown had just made that field goal and if Kris Brown had just made that other field goal, and if Schaub just didn’t throw that pick-6, and if Schaub didn’t throw into quadruple coverage and if Schaub didn’t fumble that ball, and if Slaton could run the ball, and if Slaton hadn’t fumbled 8 times, and if our O-line could block, and if we could have stopped VY (now that one has got to hurt), and if we could have stopped MJD on the final drive, and if we could not commit a penalty on special teams, and if we could show up on time to catch our plane, and if we could just stay onsides, and if CB didn’t throw that pick, and if……………we would be 10-2.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And if you broke that down into several different sentences instead of using 100 commas
I would read your whole comment and not give up after your second use of comma.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I guess it would have worked if I didn’t use so many commas. Kind of like how the RB pass would have worked if White and Leached blocked and CB didn’t throw an interception. Only used one comma so maybe you can finish reading this one.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's how you do it.
So what’s the point of your previous comma fest again?
Because we’ve already established that it gave me a headache instead of helping me understand your point.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was just one long run on sentence...
kind of like all the excuses I keep hearing. No real point at all just a bunch of wouldofs and couldofs.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
kind of like all the bitching that i keep hearing about Kubiak’s play calling.
Im glad that we’ve managed to develop an understanding.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope,
that’s just a fact. It was evident in yesterdays game. If you don’t believe me watch the game or just ask someone else who saw it, they’ll tell you.
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by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Willis
would have made that play for us if we had him at RB.
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Rec'd
Bout time we mentioned His Holiness again.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 8, 2009 2:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jordann, you're exactly right in your analysis of the play
Looked to me that Leach should have blocked the DB but messed up, and yes Dreesen was wide open, but the call was unnecessary. Even if the play worked, as it would have if CB had just released the ball about 0.5 seconds earlier, the call was just too risky, which is why I call it unnecessary. The last time we were down there we scored running straight up the gut with CB. If it was 3rd and long, the call may have been appropriate, but 1st down from th 5-6, no how, no way is that the right call.
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by oiler-texan diehard on Dec 7, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can agree with you about that particular play call inside the ten being unnecessary.
It was very risky and Kubiak took a huge chance with the game on the line. But the play call worked(didn’t really work but you know what i mean) nonetheless. The jags were caught off-guard. It was up to the players to execute it and they didn’t.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But here's my problem with this line of thinking
It seems to argue that the play actually went off as designed (or well enough at least) but the players didn’t execute and therefore the players are to blame and not the coaches.
I’ll buy that in the case of Leach and White, but I can’t buy that in the case of Brown. Leach and White are being asked to do what they normally do – block. Brown, on the other hand, has been handed the ball with the goal of throwing a touchdown pass. Possibly for the first time in his career.
With the game, season and Gary Kubiak’s job hanging in the balance.
He is a running back, who, by the way, has already shown a tendency to blow it in big occasions. Not a quarterback. Our quarterback, who is playing as well as any qb in the game (despite having a shoulder injury), is basically a decoy.
Maybe Dreesen was open. But the guy who has thrown very few passes in his life, and never under this kind of pressure, can’t get it to him.
Why can’t we blame Kubes for this? He basically put his tenure in Houston on a player who wasn’t suited to the task he was assigned. And, unsurprisingly, he failed.
Expecting Chris Brown to make the right decision (i.e. throw it out of bounds or just take the loss) is like putting me in a dentist’s chair and expecting me to do a root canal. He should never have been put in that position.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 8, 2009 2:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree - a risk:reward analysis of this call would undoubtedly
be that the risk >>>> reward. Kubiak knows it now and my biggest problem is that in the time allotted to make the decision, he whiffed. He has improved vs his 1st year, but has he improved enough to warrant another year as Texans’ HC? That is the huge dilemma facing Mr. McNair. I have mixed feelings, but still feel that we have a chance to be better with a new HC, but that is only if we land a great coach. The immediate future of fanbase confidence in the franchise is hanging in the balance. I would not want to be Bob McNair right about now.
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by oiler-texan diehard on Dec 8, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Every call is unnecessary when players screw it up.
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by beefy on Dec 8, 2009 9:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
3rd and 3
AJ runs a slant. Rexy makes a bad throw. We punt.
Great call. Bad execution. Fail.
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by texanphil on Dec 8, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So, by some people's logic here...
Kubes and Shanny never should’ve called that play.
They’re absolutely right. There’s no way they could expect a professional football player to do that.
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by beefy on Dec 8, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
when you say
“every call is unnecessary when players screw it up”
that is so incredibly wrong, I can’t possibly believe you believe it.
So I gave an example of when a player screwed up a perfectly good play call to demonstrate how insane that comment is.
The slant is not a bad call. The HB pass with CB throwing it was.
Thats all I’m gonna say about that.
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by texanphil on Dec 8, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We obviously disagree on that point.
I don’t know what you’re not getting about that.
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by beefy on Dec 8, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
re: the play call worked
it most certainly did not work.
The argument that the play should have resulted in a TD is incorrect. The chances that a player who has never attempted a pass in an NFL game can complete it on the road (in conditions where the home QB caused his own safety in their end zone) with gloves on, when the team needs a TD, are very slim.
So the fact that its a low percentage play HAS to play in to whether it was a good call or not.
We’re down by 2 in hoops. I design a play that gets our 7’2" center open for a three pointer to win it. He’s great in the paint, not so much behind the arc. But I designed it, and he misses a wide open 3, losing the game.
a. Did the play work?
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by texanphil on Dec 7, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The reciever was wide open. In that respect, the playcall worked.
The TD pass to Andre was also a misdirection type play, it worked perfectly as well.
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by CFHTim on Dec 7, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
two guys missed a block
and the back threw a pick.
3 guys out of four failed, and you say the play call worked because one guy did the right thing?
That is a very low standard to reach. I don’t think a play would ever be unsuccessful by that definition.
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by texanphil on Dec 7, 2009 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Those players did fail. They failed to execute the play that worked.
So in that sense, the play call worked but the play itself didn’t as we all saw yesterday.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if that play worked
then its always the players fault.
There is no such thing as a bad call. ever.
The risk of exactly what happened is the main reason it was a bad call. Not that a half back pass is a bad call. That these players in that situation would be told to run that play with the risk being so great is the very reason why it was a bad call.
The play did not work by any definition.
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by texanphil on Dec 7, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So Dressen being wide open in the endzone
doesn’t mean that the play worked? The play worked. It did it’s job. It fooled the jags D. But it wasn’t successful. I think that’s a better way to put it.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no, sorry
Dreesen being open does not mean the play worked.
If we run up the middle, and the C and G are supposed to create a hole for Moats to run through, and the C fails, but the G does his job, and Moats is thrown for a 2 yard loss, did the play work because the G did his job?
If its 4th and 2 and we throw it 50 yards down the field to a wide open JJ who bobbles and then drops it, did the play work? Was the probability that JJ would drop it worth the risk of throwing it to him on 4th down? Was that a good play call?
It didn’t work. It wasn’t a good call. GK says the same thing. One guy being open does not a good call/good play make.
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by texanphil on Dec 7, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
In their defense, it WAS Houston v. Jacksonville.
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by beefy on Dec 7, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They were probably liquored up before the game…you know, in anticipation of the suck that was about to unfold…
by Barrett on Dec 7, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True. I know I was.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
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by TexansForever on Dec 7, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't expect anybody wants to see it again
But I never got to see the Chris Brown play, if you can call it that,
Does anybody have a link to a replay of it to actually see with my own eyes?
I know it wont really help feel better but I don’t feel right without seeing how incredulous our Texans can be in terms of finding so many ways to lose games
by Albiceleste on Dec 6, 2009 6:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow saying that just made me realize how, as a Texans fan, masochistic I really am...
by Albiceleste on Dec 6, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what we're known for
That & awesome tailgating
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 6, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a toss play to the right.
Brown slowly rolls out to the right, then gets hit while attempting to throw, it goes right to a Jags defender for the interception on first and goal. I actually think there was an open reciever in the back of the end zone, but a horrible playcall IMO.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
by CFHTim on Dec 6, 2009 6:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
so sensative
banning me for wanting chrissy brown to somehow impale himself with the ball
by Titans suc on Dec 6, 2009 6:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think tha is a Kubiak play call.
by texans will win on Dec 6, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so let me
ask y’all this can kubiak be done away with without hurting our offensive game
by Titans suc on Dec 6, 2009 6:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe.
Numbers might go down, but overall dumbassery would probably also.
Defense could also end up being a lot better with a proper D coordinator.
by nolander on Dec 6, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
shaub
is a top 10 qb he stays regardless I asked cause every single one of you know were one or two draft classes away from being a perennial playoff contender this is an average team so I’m not completely sold on his firing they will get better once they fill holes sighn meco signn daniels stop making dumb ass calls cut chris brown and maybe next year were ready to go from average to good
by Titans suc on Dec 6, 2009 7:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have no clue wtf you are talking about.
Here, you may want to borrow these: ,?.’:;
Actually, you can keep them.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 6, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
texans forever
to be honest dude ive read alot of you’re posts and you have no clue period. Also you need to get off me with that fake ass quotation police shit
by Titans suc on Dec 6, 2009 7:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Attacking me doesn't make what you wrote any more readable.
Seriously, PUNCTUATE. It makes it easier for everyone to understand what you are writing.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 6, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You T.F.
Came at me. But looking at my posts I could pay a little more attention to punctuation.
by Titans suc on Dec 6, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are the GM and you can only sign one
and don’t come up with any signing both scenarios.
DeMeco or OD?
And remember, we’re 0-4 without OD.
I was a believer that OD was replaceable, but now I think he should be signed no matter the cost, season ending injury or not.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's just because that's Schaub's security blanket...
…it’s all timing and chemistry with OD.
You could probably sign both. OD’s coming off injury and we won’t be re-signing Dunta.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we could(ugh) use a franchise on one of them.
by nolander on Dec 6, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nah, I trust Rick will get it done.
After not signing Dunta to a long term contract and building this mostly decent roster…..I think he knows what he’s doing.
His job this offseason should read as follows: Get some linemen and get some defensive backs.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We don’t have anyone to replace Demeco at all in any way shape or form.
by nolander on Dec 6, 2009 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it was a hypothetical
which one?
I realize there are many ways for us to actually have both dudes playing for us next season, but the question was posed hypothetically you were only allowed to sign one.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 6, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, in that case it's DeMeco...
…he’s a great MLB. Our defense isn’t good enough to replace him.
OD’s great, but a TE isn’t a must have position on offense. It helps, but it’s not a necessity.
by TexansDC on Dec 6, 2009 9:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
hypotamoose. Still would be Meco.
by Titans suc on Dec 6, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Texan Phil
man that’s a tough one but I’d go with sighning demeco our lb corps has developed into a real strength. Speaking of developing I guess casey will have to develope some blocking skills and couldn’t we sighn meco and franchise daniels
by Titans suc on Dec 6, 2009 8:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What is really impressive about Kubiak
Is that he finds new ways to lose. Some coaches are content to do the conservative missed field goal shtick, some, like Belichik, stick with your basic go for it mentality. Kubiak refuses to be so constrained. His creativity knows no bounds. Fumble at the goal line because you STILL have no running game? Check. Lose multiple games due to inept special teams play? Check. Give that same running back a FUCKING PASS PLAY? A MOTHERFUCKING BORDERLINE INSANE B-REEL JV HIGH SCHOOL PLAY? ARE YOU SERIOUS? and watch him promptly toss an incomprehensible pick? Check. Inept game management? Lifetime achievement award. My hat’s off to Gary Kubiak. Until today, I really just didn’t properly appreciate his genius. Now that i do, I can just relax, stop worrying about those silly wins and losses and just take some time to reflect on it.
We all need to take a minute and marvel at it. He’s actually getting our players to play below their talent level in some cases- it’s a rare gift, and one not to be squandered lightly.
by JimboTexan on Dec 6, 2009 10:35 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Jea
that play made no sense still fuck the kitties,it’s still go texans
by Titans suc on Dec 6, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Look
it looks bad now but remember 7-9 wins is still at worst better than the capers era. Sincerely texans fan since the inception. Keap yalls heads up and stay down for the hometeam Gooooooo Texans!!!!!!!!
by Titans suc on Dec 7, 2009 12:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
is andre gonna be a see ya- i don’t see how a player like him could want to stay with this team. how much longer is left on his contract?
by Ron E on Dec 7, 2009 12:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
not on this team he’s not. I know he tried to take back what his uncle said but you better believe AJ will think about leaving the Texans for a team that has a shot at the superbowl. He is the best WR in the league and is on a team that has never had a winning season (think about that for a second). I wouldn’t blame him for wanting to leave and don’t be so sure he won’t.
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
y'all check out
my comments on mcm been wanting that to be known for a while I like this Internet shit
by Titans suc on Dec 7, 2009 1:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Talking smack at MCM/SB/whatever
is so passe. Let it be, homes.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 7, 2009 4:46 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yea
I know but when really drunk it’s fun to hate on the oilers
by Titans suc on Dec 7, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No really
It’s gotten kinda old.
(Talking smack over at MCM, that is. Hating on the tits never gets old.)
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 7, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why there needs to be a change....
I have been a long time Texans fan and every time I think this team is going to get their act together they let me down. This team now has talent which is something that couldn’t said in past years but the team should have enough core talent to be a contender. Not enough talent to be a champion but at least make the playoffs.
The biggest problem this team has is consistency. They play awesome for one half and then suck ass the next. They dominate on one side of the ball and then suck ass on the other. This year they never have played a solid game on all phases. Then sometimes they win the turnover battle then commit a crapload of penalties.
If you have the talent, which I think the Texans do, how do explain the lack of consistent production? Coaching…
I like Kubiak and I think he is a decent man and I thought with his association with a winning franchise, would help the team right the ship. But has he done all he is going to be able to do? The staff he has put together on paper looks great. The OC and DC maybe not so much but the position coaches(rhodes, gibbs, kollar) are known for their ability and experience in the league. So WTF? Where is the consistent production?
I am not looking for greatness but where is the ability to finish drives? When you have a team 3 and long why can’t you force the punt? Where is the coaching to stop the stupid penalties? Where is the coaching to stop the dumbass turnovers?
I and every other Houston Texans fan is tired of hearing “its on me” or “we have to figure this out”. All the other coaches with the same or even lesser talent have been able to figure out how to stay 500 or better. This was the year I was waiting for Gary to show me he is the guy. We got rid of the last POS DC and got a couple more pieces to make the team better. We should be moving forward and I have not seen anything this year to make me think we have. I think certain phases are better (LB corp) but the results have not changed.
Whats the choice: fire Kubiak or give him another year? If you can him who do you get? The Chin? Shanny Sr? Give Holmgren the keys to everything? Or do you think McNair can find the next Payton or Tomlin? You know Winning Coaches?
I just want a post season trip at this point. Kubes has had time to make it happen and all the bad decisions made this year make me wonder if he is the guy to make it happen.
by Papa Bear on Dec 7, 2009 2:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Its like building a new house.(A repost from keep kubiak thread)
Kubiak is good
He can build a good foundation (football team, working with players)
He can build a strong foundation that can last generations (several seasons)
He knows what is necessary for a good long lasting foundation.
He doesnt know how to finish the house,
All he’s gots in front of him is a foundation with a lot of potential to be something monumental.
And we all see it, and cheer for it.
He tries to put up some frames and some dry wall, but the man dont know nothing about hammering, so it falls to pieces in the end, and things end up half done (the 8-8 seasons)
At this point, if you were the homeowner (mcnair) you’d would want to bring someone else into finish the house.
(i was so proud of the analogy i wanted to post it here too.)
by Ivan A on Dec 7, 2009 2:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That sounds like the perfect analogy for the Kubiak era
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 7, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
personally...
i love Koob. and think he deserves another year. one or two plays in any of those games, and we are 10-2, maybe even 11-1. i say, dump cunta, go out and get a better corner for less $$$, draft a fatty for the DL, and pray we don’t have injuries next season. as the years go by, the talent level rises. each year our guys are better than the previous years. we have cush coming along, we still got mario and for the most part, our offense is pretty much set. if we fire Koob, that will be 3 regime changes in 8 years. mcnair (IMO) does not want to be known as a revolving door owner, more than anything he wants consistency. 9-7 will save Koob. maybe even 8-8. it’s monday.. saints win, texans lose. feel like im stuck in my very own groundhog day.
Michael: It is going to up in Tahoe a couple more days. Maybe you could take a date?
Lucille: How am I supposed to find someone willing to go into that musty old claptrap?
Michael: The cabin... yes! That would be difficult, too.
http://www.twitter.com/doobieman21
by chrisd21 on Dec 7, 2009 8:32 AM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Reality
time to wake up to it. We are not close to being a 10-2 team in fact we are closer to being a 2-10 team. I agree with dump Dunta but everything you just said are the same things we’ve been saying forever. We are 5-7 not 10-2 and we are not better this year than we were the other 8-8 seasons. We are struck somewhere between ok and suck.
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to be the first to say this
I think the team has lost confidence in Kubiak. That right there, would disqualify him from coming back for one more season. Can he get their confidence back? Maybe. But, it would be a longshot in a season full of bonehead coaching moves that you can specifically point to that strongly contributed to losses. Heck, they won a couple in spite of his bonehead moves this season.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad Call
But who calls a half back pass on first and goal? Its almost like he wants to get fired. I could see it if we weren’t moving the ball, but we had already run it in once.
by texans will win on Dec 7, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And who calls a Halfback Pas when CHRIS BROWN is the halfback.
The guy has already arguably lost you two games and now you want to give him a chance to collapse again!?
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 7, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
plus
A halfback pass only works when there is a real threat of a run…
since when has Chris Brown threatened any opponent with his running ability?
by grungedave on Dec 7, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's threatened our sanity a ton with his running ability (or lack thereof)
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 7, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That play
even caught the attention over at the rockets blog the dream shake (http://www.thedreamshake.com/)
Heres what they had to say.
http://www.thedreamshake.com/2009/12/6/1188401/off-topic-wtf-is-up-with-the
by Ivan A on Dec 8, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"One or two plays in any of those games and we are 10-2"
Those one or two plays that cost us? They aren’t the result of luck. They are the result of bad coaching with a sprinkling of bad luck thrown in. If this stuff just happened one or two times, you could call it luck. But it doesn’t. It happens consistently.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 7, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nolander
just said it all in 4 words.
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and think.....
They still weren’t out of it. There was still a chance that the team could have pulled it out, if only the defense could tackle MJD in crunch time.
Kubiak, Man!!! All he had to do was get the ball from Schaub to AJ! Why???
random thoughts….I know….
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thinks that just says
so much more about the quality players we have on this team…
bad plays= Tough losses
or is it
bad plays + tough losses= fired coach.
by Ivan A on Dec 8, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
last night on inside the game, my question was...
who’s to blame? coaches or players?
and even bob and spence couldn’t agree.
Michael: It is going to up in Tahoe a couple more days. Maybe you could take a date?
Lucille: How am I supposed to find someone willing to go into that musty old claptrap?
Michael: The cabin... yes! That would be difficult, too.
http://www.twitter.com/doobieman21
by chrisd21 on Dec 7, 2009 10:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Its both, but I think Kubiak and his staff have made too many stupid mistakes this year to believe that they are the right people going forward.
by nolander on Dec 7, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who said what
I didn’t see it.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 10:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
bob said coaches, spence said players.
the texans cheer was stacy… and she is FUKKIN HAWT.
Michael: It is going to up in Tahoe a couple more days. Maybe you could take a date?
Lucille: How am I supposed to find someone willing to go into that musty old claptrap?
Michael: The cabin... yes! That would be difficult, too.
http://www.twitter.com/doobieman21
by chrisd21 on Dec 7, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That had to be a good exchange
I might accuse both of being homers, so for them to actually debate what is wrong would have been interesting.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone
also either needs to beat or fire the special teams coach Joe. I can’t remember the last time we had our special teams on the field without a penalty. I swear it’s been like that ever since JJ ran that punt back for a TD (maybe against the 9ers???) and it was called back on a penalty. Or is it just me?
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
by Bobobigbro on Dec 7, 2009 10:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
yesterday was so atrocious. The penalties are what allowed the jags to get to an early lead, they always had phenomenal field position because of the stupid penalties.
by nolander on Dec 7, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, the illegal block penalties
seem like that are killing special teams…
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In other news...THREE different Texans threw an interception yesterday. Is that a record for the franchise?
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Dec 7, 2009 11:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Chris Brown's
First career pass was an interception? Color me surprised.
by JimboTexan on Dec 7, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
IM IN A NUTHOUSE!!!
I’M A TEXANS FAN BUT I’M SICK OF THIS BS I PUT MYSELF THROUGH EVERY YEAR!!!!THIS FREEKIN TEAM IS JUST CURSED WITH INEPT COACHES AND TOO MANY INEPT PLAYERS LIKE CHRIS BROWN. ITS THE SAME STUFF OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND I’M JUST GLAD I WAS AT HOME WATCHING THAT GAME – BY MYSELF – SO I COULD SCREAM AS LOUD AS I COULD STRAIGHT INTO MY PILLOW!! THE MOST STUPID PLAY CALL I HAVE EVER SEEN! KUBIAK AND SHANAHAN CALL AN OPTION PASS PLAY FOR BIG OLE DUMMY CHRIS BROWN ON 1ST AND GOAL AT THE 5 YARD LINE…REALLY?? THAT’S THE CALL YOU WANT TO GO WITH PUT THE BALL IN THE HANDS OF CHRIS FREEKIN BROWN??? I’M JUST FREEKIN ILL THIS MORNING AND NOW I JUST WANT THE TEXANS TO LOSE THE REST OF THEIR FREEKIN GAMES NOW SO WE CAN AT LEAST GET A DECENT DRAFT PICK… BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS….JUST CUZ I WANT THEM TO LOSE THE REST OF THEIR GAMES, THEY ARE GOING WIN ALL OF THEM AND GO 9-7 AND THAT IS GONNA SHOW “SUCCESS” TO BOZO MCNAIR AND HE WILL KEEP KUBIAK AS COACH… WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THE TALENT WE HAVE ON THIS TEAM YET STILL FIND FREEKIN DUMB WAYS TO LOSE LIKE THIS, THAT IS ALL ON THE COACH.. I’M NOT SURE I CAN BE A FAN OF THIS TEAM WITH AN INDECISIVE COACH LIKE KUBIAK RUNNING THIS TEAM. I’M SICK AND TIRED OF STRESSING MYSELF OUT WITH THIS TEAM.
THIS IS HOW BAD IT IS FOR ME RIGHT NOW… AND I’M NOT EVEN PLAYING…THIS IS HOW BAD I AM FEELING AFTER PUTTING ALL MY ENERGY INTO THIS TEAM….THIS IS HOW I KNOW THE TEAM IS DRIVING ME CRAZY……….I WAS ACTUALLY GOING FOR THE COWBOYS LAST NIGHT… SERIOUSLY…. I’M NOT EVEN PLAYING… I ACTUALLY GOT MAD THAT THEY LOST TO THE GIANTS LAST NIGHT. TO THINK… I WAS A COWBOYS FAN LAST NIGHT MADE ME CRACK UP CAUSE I NOW KNOW THAT I AM NOW CLINICALLY INSANE BECAUSE OF THIS TEAM…..
I’M IN THE LOONEY BIN RIGHT NOW AND I’M IN A STRAIGHTJACKET TRYING TO SCRATCH MY BALLZ LIKE CHEECH AND CHONG IN THE NUTHOUSE IN NICE DREAMS… HEY MAN GET ME OUTTA HERE!!!!
by HEIGHTSMIKE584 on Dec 7, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I TOTALLY AGREE!
You have conveyed how every Texan fan feels right now! The going for the cowgirls thing I dont agree with. No matter how bad it gets I will never pull for them. Kubiak should have never been the coach for this team. No one seems to realize that we have a team full of young high potential players that party entirely too much during the season, extremely undisciplined, and have lost the desire to win. All of these things stem from the coaching staff. There is no sense of urgency within the Texans organization. It saddens me to turn on the t.v. week in and week out and see a sub par bottom teir team whom I too have invested so much energy, time, and untill this year season tickets(money). Even though there was a player open that no one ever saw, we have THE BEST reciever in the league and we are the only team in the league that does not have a slant play to get him the ball in the endzone and against a ROOKIE who is smaller in size no doubt. That is what everyone should be asking themselves why did kubiak not take advantage of the matchup!
by ROSEBUDD on Dec 7, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I rec'd thee
for having the patience to read that headache above us.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 7, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Inept coaching
Am I the only one who feels that kubiak should be gone? DO NOT GIVE HIM ANOTHER YEAR! I am on the verge of stroking out Sunday after Sunday!
by ROSEBUDD on Dec 7, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Uhh, dude?
Read the thread. The answers you seek are contained therein.
And if you only stroke it on Sundays you truly lead a sad life.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 7, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We could use a fanpost on this subject...
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Dec 7, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
After reading about the players reactions today kubes might be losing this team . As much as I like this offence Ive changed my mind he has to go.
by Titans suc on Dec 7, 2009 2:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No energy to vent
But this video should sum up my feelings about our playoff hopes from four weeks ago to now. RIP 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlQCW02Tbxc
"So I got that goin' for me, which is nice." ~ Carl Spackler
by LoneSpot on Dec 7, 2009 3:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I must say one thing...
That play on the goal where Andre lined up tight and then did a little fade route. Where has that been all season? Andre’s our best player and we specifically and only try to get the ball in his hands on a fade route. That should be a fixture in the goal line. Not something seen once in week 13.
by TexansDC on Dec 7, 2009 3:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Schuab seems pretty terrible at throwing the fade in the past
by nolander on Dec 7, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
kubiak' quote of the day
This is a part of coaching you go through. I’m disappointed like everyone else. I have to get a smile back on their faces."
WTF? smiles on their faces?? i think he meant light a fire under their asses! another reason why kubes is gone. get some passion, man!
by TexanRyan on Dec 7, 2009 4:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't question the passion because you dont hear and see it on the press conferences.
I’ve watched Kubiak during training camp and that man will get at you if you’re not getting it done.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
People seem to think that the aww-shucks Gary of press conferences is how he is in real life. I think it’s just a media strategy.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 8, 2009 2:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i question passion when
a coach doesn’t discipline clownS like dunta after he did his little dance and got burned for 30 yards. i question passion when he can’t get his players to play 60 minutes a week. you think this bullshit we’ve seen the last 4 games would go over with Cowher as HC?? HELL NO
by TexanRyan on Dec 7, 2009 5:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well well well, what do we have here?
Another disapponting loss. It is sad our streak is in the L column. To tell y’all the truth I think we are takin a step back and I don’t see us finishing at 8-8. It’s more like 7-9 and that’s if we are lucky. Don’t get me wrong but I like kubiak. I wanted him to succeed day 1. What has he shown us over the years? Yea he improved us but not by much. We are stuck on 5 w’s. He needs to get a paddle and disipline these players! I don’t see him returning next season. I know it’s jus me but it seems like he can’t get us over that hump. We need a coach with experience and agressiveness. Much props to schaub for doin what he did! He’s a hungry player that can taste victories but some how we always come up short. He has led us down the field many times to atleast give us a shot at winning or OT but the kicker or HB’s couldn’t come through for us. Our season is over but with a new head coach next year it WILL BE THE YEAR OF THE TEXANS!!!!!!!
by Texan_4_life on Dec 7, 2009 5:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I thought I traded you for Zoltan.
O_o
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Man losing sucks
everyone here is pointing their cannons at each other.
I liked it better after week 2. They deserved the shots we gave em.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 7, 2009 10:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I actually like how it is right now.
There’s a lot more to talk about. Although some of the new commenters makes me want to bang my head against the keyboard, they sort of help further the discussion.
But I dont like how our team is struggling right now. Just wanted to clarify that.
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We're a better fanbase when we're losing than when we're winning, imo.
Proudly supporting the Qatar National Falconry Team since December 6, 2009.
by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 8, 2009 2:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
like the team
we have more experience in this area
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Dec 8, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Being a houston sports fan. I have plenty of losing experience.
by Jordann on Dec 8, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe they should just lose the rest of the games
maybe then we’ll all get along
by Ivan A on Dec 8, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh no!
I didn’t get traded for zoltan sorry. I got franchised here so deal with it jordann! And I’m not like that sorry ass daunta so yea go ahead and bang your head on your key board as hard as you can.
by Texan_4_life on Dec 8, 2009 6:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
How was your day today jordann?
by Texan_4_life on Dec 8, 2009 7:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Being franchised
Doesn’t mean you can suddenly drink and post.
Proudly supporting the Qatar National Falconry Team since December 6, 2009.
by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 9, 2009 2:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Being franchised means
you dont know how to use the reply feature.
by Jordann on Dec 9, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I swear to god he has multiple accounts.
by nolander on Dec 9, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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