Post-Game Breakdown: Texans Lose To Jaguars...Again
Four losses in a row. To Indianapolis. To Tennessee. To Indianapolis. And yesterday afternoon, to Jacksonville. From a 5-3 start and talk of playoff contention to a 5-7 record and virtual elimination from relevance. Your Houston Texans finish their 2009 campaign with a 1-5 record in the AFC South. That's failure.
On to the details of the latest crime against the Texans fan base:
1. The single good thing to come out of yesterday's disaster was Matt Schaub refusing to let a little thing like a dislocated shoulder keep him out of the game. Had Brett Favre been the guy who was driven into the ground, we'd be treated to a full week of praise for Favre about his grit, toughness, commitment to his teammates, excellence, and leadership. Since it's Schaub, it won't merit much talk outside of Houston and/or fantasy owners. Thus, allow me to pick up the slack on this one.
After Schaub went down on the first play from scrimmage, I never thought for a second he'd be back and was resigning myself to the remainder of the 2009 season playing out with Rex Grossman under center, followed by a stint in rehab for me come January. But then...with about seven minutes left in the first half, there was Schaub, warming up on the sideline. I couldn't believe it. From the second he went down, judging from the way he went down and then the way he was holding his arm as he left the field, I thought Schaub separated his shoulder. Remember--Schaub missed the last few weeks of the 2007 season with an identical injury. Not this time. Schaub re-entered the game and very nearly brought the Texans back. It showed a resolve we hadn't ever seen from him, and it should put to rest any questions about his resilience. If Schaub can play, he will play. People can criticize him, but not for being soft. The guy's a gamer.
2. Good thing that Schaub's a gamer, too, because Rex Grossman looked awful. I don't even want to talk about it anymore.
3. Once again, Ryan Moats shows a burst that we haven't seen from a running back all year long. And once again, I'm sure he'll be banished to the bottom of the depth chart for reasons that elude me. Can anyone explain why Moats doesn't get more carries? Anyone?
4. Of all the things that puzzled/enraged me about yesterday's game, the most puzzling/infuriating was Chris Brown being in the game on the very next series after he tried to shot-put the ball in Joel Dreessen's general direction. How is it that Kubes can bench Steve Slaton and/or Ryan Moats for turning the ball over but not apply the same zero tolerance policy on C. Brown?
5. I appreciate those of you who think the halfback pass was a good call at the time. I vehemently disagree, and I think it's just the latest example of Kyle Shanahan and/or Gary Kubiak trying to get cute. Just as I had no clue why the Texans called a pass on third down at the IND 15 with slightly more than a minute to go in the first half last week, I'll never understand why the Texans would ask Chris Brown to make that play at that point in the game. It was a truly awful decision, trumped only by even more awful execution.
6. Although he coughed one ball up that turned into an interception, I continue to be impressed by David Anderson. Seems like he very quietly is good for a big third down conversion every week.
7. The absence of Owen Daniels makes Andre Johnson's consistency that much more unfathomable.
8. I never had anything against Chris White. Until yesterday. His false start, late in the third quarter, as the Texans prepared to go for it on 4th and 2 from the JAC 9, was as back-breaking a penalty as I've seen in some time.
9. I mentioned this a few weeks back in the PGB, and I'll reiterate it now: Is anyone else amazed at how no one has taken Alex Gibbs to task this season for the performance of the offensive line? They haven't been able to run block all year, and false starts seem to occur at an alarming rate, especially during this four-game swoon.
10. Why does Frank Bush EVER put the Texans into a zone? It never works. Ever. It's the schematic equivalent of raising a white flag.
11. Judging from the way Gus Johnson was lavishing praise on Dunta Robinson, I'm firmly of the belief that (1) Gus is on Dunta's payroll and/or (2) Gus hasn't watched the Texans play at all this year. The latter possibility is particularly troubling, considering that Gus Johnson and Steve Tasker have called several Texans games this year.
12. Theory: There is not a single member of the Texans secondary who would start for a playoff team except perhaps Bernard Pollard. Agree or disagree?
13. There aren't a whole lot more depressing things as a fan than to watch your defense get gashed via the run when everyone watching knows exactly what's coming, who's getting the ball, and a stop is absolutely crucial to avoid losing the game. It's demoralizing to watch. I can't even imagine what it has to be like for DeMeco Ryans & Co. The odd part is that the Texans did a fine job keeping Maurice Jones-Drew in check all the way up until that last drive. When they absolutely needed it the most, they couldn't do it.
14. Even though the Texans managed to sack David Garrard on four (4) occasions, I never really felt like they got to him. Just like last time, Garrard made the plays when he needed to, regardless of what the numbers say.
15. The Jaguars did everything they possibly could to give this game to the Texans, and the Texans refused to do anything about it. This was the sloppiest game I've seen two teams play in a good long while.
16. The calls for Kubiak's head are getting louder and louder. Not coincidentally, each loss and absurd playcall makes defending him harder and harder. JMay wrote a great FanPost on the topic, and I'll be writing a longer piece myself in the coming days on the subject. For now, I'll leave you with this thought...if you can't get a proven Super Bowl winning coach, are you content with replacing Kubes with someone who has no head coaching experience?
The Seahawks are next on the schedule. Here's hoping that Reliant doesn't look like Jacksonville Municipal Stadium on Sunday.
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Last time I suggested that, I got grilled
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Dec 8, 2009 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
I think
It’s a bad idea. Remember why Billick got fired? Offense. Remember what kind of coach he is? Offense.
Thank durga for Bernard Pollard
knockin the piss out of people. And Barber was at least close enough to the plays to throw his body in the mix some. Jacoby Jones picked a great time to go Jacoby Jones as well, way to go jackass !
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another example of a lack of discipline under Kubiak
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Loyal cause there could be worse situations...
….Lions fan, Browns fan…..lots of teams who have been around a lot longer and have as many Super Bowls to show for it: 0.
Gotta suck to be a Browns fan. No Super Bowls, no AFC Titles, and the Ravens won a Super Bowl. Heck, the Colts won a Super Bowl too. Everyone made out in that Indy-Baltimore-Cleveland ordeal except the Browns.
Go Texans! Make a push for 9-7!
Thats what I told a guy today while he was watching the Saints-Redskins highlights. We could always be Redskins fans.
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At least
They have winning records in seasons past.
Barber and pollard should be the safeties
Reeves quinn McCain at cb
fuck dunta and busing ( not his fault really )
by AllenOU on Dec 7, 2009 5:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions
One knock on the D yesterday
head down arms in seems to be how they’re taught to tackle in training camp. Everyone but Pollard was trying it (Even Ryans) but he wasn’t here for camp. I’m F*ing tired of watching backs and receivers, F*ing receivers, pinball to a first down every week.
Schaub is a bright spot.
Gotta at least love Kubiak for bringing the potential out of Schaub. Like the Rosencopter, I’m not sure I can ever get over the play that should not be named (unless its named the PTSNBN).
Rex Grossman
I knew he wasn’t good… But to be as awful as he was for that short stint? Gah…
He looked visibly lost out there which is astonishing considering as a veteran backup he should be ready to be thrown into a game at any time… Instead he looked like a rookie QB that kept on thinking “oh crap, I’m actually playing in this game?!”
At this point maybe the Texans go and get one of the UFL QB’s that just played… maybe they’d show more poise if they had to enter a game.
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Dan O looked absolutely horrible in preseason
but if Schaub had not come back when he did, I would have liked to see him get a chance. Rex was off, missing high and behind his receivers. The slant to Dre’ on 3rd and 3 was an easy throw, and he blew that one badly. The 1st INT was so far off target it was a joke.
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by oiler-texan diehard on Dec 7, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
He was inactive
Couldn’t play even if Kubiak was smart enough to take out Rex
Did he look worse than a 5.6 QB Rating? Because that is what Grossman's rating was in the Jacksonville game.
Pretty sure one of us could hit a 10 QB rating by accident.
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by TexansForever on Dec 8, 2009 7:39 AM CST up reply actions
DanO
Is a far superior fit because of his style.
And how many people wanted to start Rex over Schaub? Quite a bit if I remember.
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A better coach than Bill fucking Billick.
by cubic on Dec 7, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Barring A Total Collapse
I’m in for keeping Kubiak. Keep in mind that Schaub was out for all but 5 minutes of the first half. Grossman was so bad I was pining for DC. Based on the strength of his throws, I’m demoting Grossman from sex cannon to sex toy.
An outsiders view
First off let me say the readers of Big Cat Country love the Texans. If we don’t win it, we want you to win it. We hate the Colts and the Titans.
Being at the game, your offensive line let you down. Quentin Groves weighs 135 pounds and he was getting in the backfiled. Seriously, Matt Schauab’s grandmother could block Quentin Groves. Look there for your cause of failure.
Tim came on the BCC radio program and I told him if Kubiak stays, the AFC South is happy. I think Kubiak is a great coach, but take the play calling out of his hands. I don’t know what you could have done in the Red Zone, but clearly what you did didn’t work.
Here is one more thing to mention, you held Maurice Jones Drew in check. You held Mike Simm Walker in check. You held Torry Holt in check. Not much more you can do. Take away the 67 yard play and you held us to 250 yards. You played really well. Your O-Line exposed your quarterback and the play calling in the red zone was a bit easy to pick up on.
We love you guys. Don’t fire Kubiak and get better. We can’t take the Colts down by ourselves.
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by Tkopa on Dec 7, 2009 10:43 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
You're damn right.
Our O-Line is an under-manned joke. You know whose fault that is? You guessed it – Mr. Nice Guy.
I bet you Jaguar fans didn’t realize you could just go out and find linemen in the bargain basement bins. Seriously, with our nifty ZBS you can basically turn any fella off the street into a player.
What’s that you say? Y’all went out and spent two high picks on O-linemen and consequently whipped our butts twice this year? Can’t be…we have the guru Alex Gibbs.
Mr. Nice Guy
and why are you calling Kubiak Mr. Nice Guy? Because he doesn’t put players on blast in his press conferences?
Well, yeah!
I mean, he OBVIOUSLY doesn’t care if he doesn’t do that!
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Running the ball
Was I the only one screaming when they opened up the drive with a pass play, you know the one where Shaub got hurt. Way to try and establish the run. I think Moats is a decent back and should have been used early to try and set up the pass. This should have been a huge game for AJ but ended up as another Texan blunder. Come on 8-8 you can do it. They only have to win 3 of 4, which is highly unlikely.
Is it time to start
thinking about april?
by WishIwasnotahoustonfan on Dec 7, 2009 11:10 PM CST reply actions
3. Ryan Moats ???
I was laughed at by all two weeks ago when I stated that Ryan Moats exhibited a burst unlike any other Texan, including Steve Slaton.
I applaud you sir, for your eptitude!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Music to my ears!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
New nickname for Chris Brown
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by BigTexBD on Dec 8, 2009 12:37 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I still think
we should keep Kubiak for another season more or less whatever happens (losses to the chiefs and (seahawks or dolphins) might change my mind).
But its more because of expected value from a change rather than lots of confidence. Not sure (though still, as always, deludedly wishing), but what head coach could possibly come in here and not guarantee us at least another two years of rebuilding? We’ve had enough tough breaks this season that if things roll our way next year with this team + a better secondary and a running back, we could be playoffs. So until I’m convinced that can’t happen with Kubiak I’d rather stick with that rather than go for rebuilding mode.
Of course, this may well be dumb.
Kubiak
Personally I think Kubiak should stay, and the three reason for that are:
1) Player quality. Every year the quality of the players has improved. We’ve now got a great set of receivers, linebackers, QB and SS. The O and D line this year is average/slightly better than average. Slaton has been a disappointment along with DBs. Remember when Kubiak took over? Basically no one from that team was NFL starter.
2). Still in games. 4 of our 7 losses went down to the end, fumble on goal line, fumble on goal line, missed FG, missed FG. The second Jags game and second colts game were one drive behind. The only game we were completely out of with the opener against the Jets. The Jets game was tough as it was the first game with a new HC and new defensive scheme. No film to review.
3) Rebuilding. A new coach will mean a new O and D scheme. Every coach except for maybe Shanahan Sr will want bring their own people and schemes. If we now switch back to a 3-4 and/or a mauler O-Line we’ve got 2-4 years of FA and drafting before we’ve got the players.
The thing that makes me want to get rid of Kubiak is that we’re close (dammit one play a game close) to being a great team and it hurts seeing the team not step up a do it. However I think it’s more of an attitude/expectation in the team more than a HC problem. If you look at the Steelers, Dallas, New England, and Indy it’s not that they got teams full of all-pros but that they a history/tradition/attitude of winning. Our Texans are close to that but they haven’t found their mental toughness to expect to win, make the big play instead of worrying about it failing.
I think we all hoped that this started at the first Titans game but it will take 2-3 tough close wins in a season for this to get in.
Actually
We’re drafting Jimmy Clausen and hiring Charlie Weiss. You heard it here first.
Kubiak
Coaches have to talk to the press. Kubiak handles these perfectly imo.
He sets a good example for his team. Doesn’t make excuses, and accepts the responsibility for everything that happens to the team he leads. This is the right way to handle something he’s required to do.
That doesn’t show anything about how he talks to or manages his team. I don’t know how he coaches his players, but something there needs tweaking. He’s not getting his best in crunch time.
The thing that worries me most is what has always been the Texans attitude. When the Colts got down 17-0 on the road, they were confident they were gonna win. We looked scared. We don’t know how to handle success.
I said it during the Raiders game, and I’ll say it again. You build a killer instinct against weaker teams. Kubiak shut down the offense in the second half of the Raiders game. The players relaxed with a lead. That, to me, translated to at least the Colts game.
Look at all the games we were losing at halftime. We played well in the second half. The players have been conditioned to manage a lead, and fight when your losing.
The only way to fix this, imo is to destroy some people. And never let up.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
Great points.
This made me think a little…
It would appear that we’ve had very little success in any area, so we’re not prepared to handle it well, whereas, we’ve had tons of shitty things happen to us, so the team has learned to handle them better. Which is why we’re more comfortable as a team, being down, yet we tend to falter when we’re up.
Anyone agree, and see the correlation to our team’s past?
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Agreed...
Players relaxed when in the lead, and the offense was turned down in the second half when we’re leading.
The colts game, we let the throttle down when were winning by double digits…The best d is when you dont let the opposing offense on the field.
i’d just jumped on the fire kubian bandwagon… but if he can at least show me that killer instinct in the next games i’d happily jump off…
*the offense was turned down in the second half*
To me that is a coaching problem. Does it come from Kubes though or from the OC? The few games I have been able to watch the D also dropped back and started playing zone prevent when Texans have the lead.
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Astute observations
This is probably the biggest thing that just grinds my gears every time I watch it. This is why this team has a split personality…one half “Brett Favre AWESOME!” (my new catch phrase) and the next half, “Travis Johnson groin-pull objectionable!” (not to ever find it’s way into the BRB vernacular).
BTW, is there any way the football gods can get Travis Johnson cut by the Chargers BEFORE they make the playoffs??? Please!!!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I honestly
Think this years main problem has been the
lack of any run game, which I think we were
all surprised about. This is the foremost thing that has kept us from maintaining leads. We can score quick, but we can’t burn clock…. On anyone. All the sudden 1 dropped pass turns into a another drive by the team trying to comeback. Kubes ultimately us responsible for this, but who could want to fire Alex Gibbs?
by WishIwasnotahoustonfan on Dec 8, 2009 5:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I said it last week I think
I don’t want to question anyones fandom, but it really irks me that people don’t want to participate in discussion till its time to start talking about whether or not to fire the coach.
If you're the new blogfan welcoming committee
you are sucking at it….
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Yes I suppose so
I just wish people would come out in droves for when we aren’t talking about firing the coach.

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