Warner's last second fumble...not reviewed?

by tubbsmoya on Feb 2, 2009 1:17 PM CST

First and foremost, last night went from, in my mind, one of the worst Super Bowls to one of the best in a matter of minutes. Such an exciting finish was then overshadowed by such a deflating feeling when Warner fumbled the ball with seconds to go and no review was called. I don't claim to be any kind of a Cards fan (more of a Steelers hater), but one way or another that "fumble" should have been reviewed. Did anyone feel this way as well?

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Yep

I think it was a fumble, but with a play of that magnitude you have to call the booth review.

Let's get the Texans a better fight song.

by Jake on Feb 2, 2009 10:21 PM CST reply actions

Agree completely

After Ben’s non TD, Harrison’s and Holmes’ TD’s were reviewed, and rightfully so, from every angle possible numerous times, it was ridiculous to so quickly end the game without stopping to show a few super slo-mo magnified replays. That new technology NBC was using for the replays, where they could magnify any of the angles, was excellent. I think they made the right call on all 3 of the aforementioned plays, and all 3 were very close. I heard Kornheiser saying that he though Ben broke the plane on the 1st. Did Santonio get is right toe down before he went out? It was very close.

After all those replays, they give the Cards the shaft by doing the quickest booth review in replay history. It’s not like it was an important play. With the personal foul on Pittsburgh on the play, a reversal of the fumble call would have given the Cards one more snap from the 29 yard line or so. A jump ball to Fitzgerald would have been a great way to endthe game.

by oiler-texan diehard on Feb 3, 2009 3:46 PM CST reply actions

While we're talking about replays...

It looks like the Cards might have gotten shafted on TWO of them.

Yay, sports.

by MDC on Feb 4, 2009 4:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

Thank you

That is exactly what I thought I saw on the replay. And I found it very odd that Al & John were so very, very quiet when this replay was being shown from this angle. I never thought I saw his right foot touch the ground after the catch.

So you're saying that now I have to think of some witty Sig that will be applicable across all the SBN sites? Go Texan Horn Stros!

by Shake on Feb 5, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions

Yeah

And you could kinda see it from the front angle, too, unless you believed that his right foot was about four sizes larger than his left.

Yay, sports.

by MDC on Feb 5, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions

Clown shoe theory?

So you're saying that now I have to think of some witty Sig that will be applicable across all the SBN sites? Go Texan Horn Stros!

by Shake on Feb 5, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions

Picture is a second late

Check out Pic 36 of 44 on this web site and then comment pn what you see.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/gallery/football/2008/flash.htm?gid=691&aid=4136

TAKey

by PitDogg_36 on Feb 5, 2009 4:28 PM CST reply actions

A reciever who has yet to establish possession?

Kind of hard to tell without the reverse angle.

by Only_A_Lad on Feb 5, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions

Possession

As in the blow up of the feet, that’s why i said a 1 to 1.5 second late. A ball coming that hard and fast, possession came as soon as it hits his hands.

I could be wrong but I believe it’s a catch with two feet down and have possession to the ground.

Also look at pic 26 for the difference in a stiff arm and a face mask.

TAKey

by PitDogg_36 on Feb 5, 2009 4:52 PM CST reply actions

I Thought It Was A Catch

But that might have been my wallet talking.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Feb 5, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions

2 Things

A ball coming that hard and fast, possession came as soon as it hits his hands.

1. The ball was floated over a leaping defender, meaning that, relatively speaking, it was not traveling all that hard or fast.

2. That’s an incorrect interpretation of the rule. Regardless of the speed of the pass, possession requires control. Otherwise, using your “hard and fast” logic, every laser pass that bounced of a WRs hands would be a fumble because “possession came as soon as it hits his hands.”

Yay, sports.

by MDC on Feb 6, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions

More Things

1. I wouldn’t call that a floater, far from that.

2. Sometimes you have to use your head for thinking, soon as it hits his hands (with the grab, aka control) and starts to bring it down and into the body without bobbling the ball is possession.

3. Do you really think that after the review that these guys would actually miss the toes.

TAKey

by PitDogg_36 on Feb 6, 2009 2:02 PM CST reply actions

Re: More Things

1. I said the ball was floated over a leaping defender, which is true, meaning that it wasn’t thrown on a line, which is true, meaning that it wasn’t thrown all that hard as compared to other passes, which is true.

possession came as soon as it hits his hands.

You said nothing about bringing it into his body. Your revised definition is correct, but it is not what you said in your initial one. Why would one extrapolate control PLUS BRINGING IT INTO THE BODY from “possession came as soon as it hits his hands.” Your first statement explicitly does NOT require bringing it into hands.

3. I’ve yet to see one shot (not a compilation of shots or a “guess where this still from behind fits in this video from the side”) that shows both clear possession AND both feet down. Was there enough to overturn the initial call? No. But that doesn’t mean the initial call was right.

Yay, sports.

by MDC on Feb 6, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions

Er...

explicitly does NOT require bringing it into body

Yay, sports.

by MDC on Feb 6, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions

Exactly

I say we review every play of the game and announce the winner on March 2, 2009.

Sunday 11:30 PM Eastern: Upon further review after reviewing all the video, still shots, and hearing out comments from the media and the fans of The Steelers and The Cardinals, Receiver had both feet down with possession resulting in a TD.

TAKey

by PitDogg_36 on Feb 6, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions