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Combine Day Four: News and Notes

Day Four was the most publicized day of the 2009 NFL Scouting Combine so far, which is to be expected, since the skill positions were on display (QB, RB, WR).  For the second day in a row though, the leading story revolved around injured WR Michael Crabtree.  Crabtree stated that his injury was not even causing him pain; therefore, he would still perform drills, including the 40 yard dash, at Texas Tech's pro day.  While many have differing opinions on whether this is wise, it appears that Crabtree wants to solidify his place as a top five pick.  In doing so, he will postpone surgery that will then keep him out of OTAs for whatever team drafts him.

With Crabtree's absence, the attention immediately was put onto the WR drills to see who would shine in his absence.  The group did not disappoint, as several posted sub 4.40 40 times.  Notable WR prospects Jeremy Maclin (Mizzou) and Hakeem Nicks (UNC) both were injured during drills, but neither of them appear to be serious, especially Maclin, who returned to finish the day with the rest of the group.  Overall, the WRs that seemed to help themselves the most were Brian Robiskie (OSU), who ran a 4.51 40 and also showed superior receiving skills, and Darrius Heyward-Bey, who ran the fastest 40 with a sizzling 4.3 time.  Although I believe there is a fair chance that Crabtree will be the only WR taken before Houston's selection, there is a good chance that an unprecedented run of WRs could occur between our first selection and our second round pick. 

Like the WR group, the top QB prospect, Matthew Stafford (UGA), did not participate in drills, although this was by choice and not due to injury.  This was seen as a chance for Mark Sanchez (USC) and Josh Freeman (K St.) to promote their respective values, but neither did anything to impress or deter scouts.  The one QB prospect that had analysts talking was Pat White (WVU), who said he was willing to play other positions besides QB.  After strong Senior Bowl and Combine performances, Mike Mayock projects him now as a second round pick who has added value as a "wildcat QB'.  As for the Texans' state of the QB situation, one of the analysts stated that he had spoken with 49ers coaches who show little to no interest in Sanchez, so it looks like he will still be there when we pick.  I think there is a real possibility of trading spots with a team like Minnesota or Detroit, who desperately need help at the QB position.

The RB group was the last to perform, and they had big shoes to fill after last year's crop of blazing RBs.  Unfortunately, no one showed the kind of speed we saw last year, and overall the group was mediocre.  Front runners Knowshon Moreno (UGA) and Beanie Wells (OSU) probably cemented their places as the first and second RBs taken in the draft.  I have to concede that it is looking less and less likely that someone will want to trade spots with us for a RB this year, as no one really looked worth losing draft picks for.

In other news around the Combine, Patriots Coach Bill Belichick got nostalgic with the media about several of his former rivals who are no longer in the biz.  Also, senior NFL.com analyst Pat Kirwan claims that if teams want a LT this year, they better get them in the first round while they last.  Hopefully this still applies to Andre Smith (Ala).  My dark horse team to chose Smith?  The Raiders.  They need a LT, and since when did Al Davis ever care about character issues over physical talent?

Tomorrow will showcase DL and LB, the day we've been waiting for.  They already conducted the bench press with somewhat notable results.  DT B.J. Raji was fifth among defensive lineman with 33 reps (37 was tops), and Brian Orakpo (UT), who is curiously listed in the LB category, had the highest total among that position with 31, barely edging out Brian Cushing's 30.  What also impressed me was Michael Johnson's (GT) 28 reps.  We all know that his athleticism isn't the issue, and 28 doesn't sound like that much, but that's not taking into account the nature of the bench press.  Short guys are supposed to bench a lot; guys who are 6'7" and therefore have the wingspan of a terradactyl are not.  Johnson's strength was supposed to be one of his detractors, and he did weigh in at 266, which consequently was 8 more pounds than he weighed about a month and a half ago.  Just a thought.

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Michael Johnson

He’s about to have to take out a restraining order on me.

TT—I am absolutely loving this series of posts on the Combine. Tremendous read.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Feb 22, 2009 10:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Word.

He was my way-too-early mancrush in October. Then people started bad about him and I got a little sad. But now? Now I can love him the way one man should love another much larger man whom he’s never met.

Yay, sports.

by MDC on Feb 24, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

In fairness...

Aren’t all men larger than us?

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Feb 24, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent. Loving these posts TT.

I have read a couple places, most notably at www.walterfootball.com, that whoever was posting the official times was somehow messing them up, because ALL of the unofficial times for RB’s were at least .3 faster than the official times. Just something to think about.

It also looks like Shonn Greene is falling down the draft boards. Andre Brown, the RB from NC state, ran a 4.49 at 224 lbs, had 24 bench reps and a 37 inch vertical. While combine numbers alone don’t impress me, coupled with his awesome Senior Bowl performance, this guy would look good in Battle Red.

Michael Johnson is looking good. I would prefer him over Tyson Jackson.

I also enjoy that Brian Cushing out benched 45 of 58 offensive lineman who participated in the combine.

by Riott on Feb 22, 2009 10:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Right after I read this comment

Todd McShay came on Sports Center and talked about how Andre Brown helped himself more than any other RB with his 4.49 40. I would love to have him, but I think after the Combine and the Senior Bowl, we would have to take him in the third, and he might not even be there then. That’s just too early for us, considering the defensive needs.

One guy that wasn’t great but wasn’t supposed to be was Gartrell Johnson. He ran a mid 4.8 (I forgot exactly what) but I had never seen this guy before. He was HUGE! I wouldn’t be surprised if his thighs were 25-30 inches around at the largest points. I haven’t jumped on this band wagong yet but I’m afraid I might have to. He could be a FB/RB mix, and since he didn’t really impess people we could probably snag him in the fifth.

One more guy that isn’t getting a lot of attention because he went to a small school and was out-shined by Andre Brown at both the Combine and the Senior Bowl is Rashad Jennings. He ran in the 4.6 range, but he is a bigger kid (6’1" 231) and was a top performer in the bench press, broad jump, 3 cone drill, 20 yard shuttle and 60 yard shuttle. Again though, he might cst too much.

Let's get the Texans a better fight song.

by Jake on Feb 23, 2009 5:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good posts! Because I’m both a boise state fan and a texan fan, I’m wondering about taking Ian Johnson with a second day pick at running back. He put up very respectable numbers in the 40 yard dash, bench press and the shuffle drills, has done very good things on special teams and in terms of production in college, and it isn’t like the texans have a ton of depth at RB. Maybe?

by killtacular on Feb 23, 2009 1:07 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

He did look good

Unfortunately, he doesn’t fit our need. He was just too fast and small. Now I know you can never have enoug speed, but we need a bigger back for goal line carries.

Having said that, I think some team is going to snag him in the thrid, maybe even in the fourth, and get themselves a pretty impressive back that no one knows about because he played in Boise State’s gimmicky offense. All the analysts were shocked at how fast he was, so I have to assume the coaches and scouts were too.

Let's get the Texans a better fight song.

by Jake on Feb 23, 2009 5:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

big back

Everything I’ve been reading has said that our version of a “big back” is someone between 215-220 because we’d look for him to spell Stevie at various points throughout the game, and not just on the goal line.
I’m still man-crushing on Gartrell, though. Love that kid.
I also like the possibility of his CSU teammate, TE Sperry, since we’re claiming to be looking to add another one of those.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Feb 23, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Gartrell

I’m on that bandwagon too, and I’m getting more and more comfortable in my seat as I read projections of him possible going sixth round or later.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Feb 23, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: seat comfort

You sure it’s not the 2-ended dildo you’re perched atop?

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Feb 23, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Your facility with the written word

…makes it clear that you were educated at a school not in Austin.

When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.

by tehGrindCrusher on Feb 23, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Funny Guy

But my saddle is in the shop.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Feb 23, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

these posts are pretty amazing, thank you so much for doing them dude.

by cubic on Feb 23, 2009 1:53 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Michael Johnson

Judging by looking at him on tape, I wouldn’t be surprised if his wingspan is closer to 7’0", which makes his bench numbers even more impressive.

Remember when Mario almost sacked that guy (I think it might have been Derek Anderson) by reaching around his blocker?

That’s what I’m talking about.

When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.

by tehGrindCrusher on Feb 23, 2009 1:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Can Michael Johnson be so impressive that he is working his way

into the 1st half of the 1st round? Regardless of the various criticisms I have heard from many commentators, I am liking the possibility of him and Mario as our ends. Ditto on Gartrell. I did not know who he was before watching his bowl game, where he was simply unreal. We do not need a breakaway back, we already have one of those. This guy has quick feet and a massive build. Similar to maybe Jerome Bettis when he was at Notre Dame? He is going to be a good back. I think he is worth even a #4.

by oiler-texan diehard on Feb 23, 2009 5:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

gartrell

Do yourself a favor and find pictures of him at the combine. Dude is fuggin massive.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Feb 23, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't see any pics at nfl.com and 5'10" 219 aren't eye popping numbers, but combined with his agility

I see him as a good complement to Steve. Did see a pic of Javon Ringer 5’9" 205, and that dude looked very built.

by oiler-texan diehard on Feb 23, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me OTD

When you see Gartrell, you will be impressed. His legs are comically huge in proportion to the rest of his body. Even the NFL Network guys remarked about it, and they spend most of their time only talking about the top 5 at each position.

Let's get the Texans a better fight song.

by Jake on Feb 24, 2009 5:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"Earl" big...

No shit, Chet.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Feb 24, 2009 9:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Do we have to take him in the 4th or will he still be around for a later round?

Love those RB’s with huge legs. To me that is much more important than a 40 time when you are looking for a short yardage/goal line type guy. He has quick enough feet to fit into our one cut scheme.

by oiler-texan diehard on Feb 24, 2009 9:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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