Draft Strategy: Round One
While discussing Antonio Smith’s positive influence on the Texans’ draft, I alluded to the concept of a draft strategy and how important it is. I described a draft strategy as the result of identifying your team’s needs, prioritizing those needs and coming up with a plan to adapt those priorities to the talent available when you pick. That strategy is akin to a team’s path through the draft proceedings. Like any path though, you can’t see the rest of the path until you see the beginning. The entire strategy hinges on who you select with your first pick. The Texans’ supposed intention is to take whoever is the best defensive player available with at least this pick, which is now possible because of the acquisition of Antonio Smith. Now comes the multi-million dollar question--who’s it going to be?
Unfortunately, not even Miss Cleo's psychic hotline can tell us who is going to be selected before the 15th pick or whether any teams will be willing to trade up with us for a particular player they can’t live without. Opinions differ, but it’s best for our purpose to assume a worst case scenario that is still realistic. In this scenario, Aaron Curry, Everette Brown, Brian Orakpo, BJ Raji, Malcolm Jenkins and Rey Maualuga are all off the board by the time we are on the clock. Vontae Davis has a chance of sneaking in there as well, but I wouldn’t cry over this and I doubt any other Texans fans would either. I assume that if somehow Brown, Orakpo, Raji or Jenkins fell to us, it would be a quick decision, but I would rather be pleasantly surprised in that event than devastated that a guy we were unrealistically counting on didn’t make it to us.
As for the trade situation, one of the crazy transactions since the beginning of free agency has cause to give us hope; well, a near transaction to be more precise. Josh McDaniels, the newly minted Denver Broncos coach, fell flat on his face over the weekend after it became public that he tried to trade franchise quarterback Jay Cutler. What’s more interesting from our perspective is who the potential recipients were: Detroit and Tampa Bay. We’ve covered the possibility of Detroit wanting to trade up from 20 to get Sanchez, but Tampa is somewhat of a new case. They convinced almost everyone, including me, that Luke McCown was going to be under center for them during the 2009 season. It could be that they couldn’t pass up the prospect of getting a talent like Cutler, or more likely that they’re not comfortable with McCown & Co. but were telling everyone that for the purpose of a little misdirection. Either way, if I was Rick Smith I would at least start a dialogue with Tampa about a trade for our pick. Also, Detroit will probably be even more interested in trading up with us after the revelation that Tampa might be targeting a QB in the first round.
Even though we speak about trading down as if it is a no-brainer, it may not be. While the Jets, Bears and Bucs (in case we trade with Detroit) are all likely to take offensive players exclusively, the Chargers may not. If San Diego manages to keep Tomlinson, their desire to draft a RB in the first round will replaced by their need for an OLB. By trading down, we have to assume that at least one more OLB prospect will be gone than if we picked at 15. This possibility could be considerably significant.
DT, DE, and S are all pressing areas the Texans should address in the draft, but the need for an OLB surpasses them in my opinion. The interior of the defensive line was abysmal last year, but with two former first round picks currently at the DT position, the Texans will likely draft for this position in the later rounds and see if Frank Bush and Bill Kollar can get better performances out of Amobi Okoye and Travis Johnson in their linemen-get-up-the-field style of defense. Although S is a glaring need, there probably isn’t one good enough to take in the first round (unless my man-crush slips). DE was probably the biggest need at the outset of free agency, but the Texans helped themselves immensely by signing Antonio Smith. Due to this help, it’s probably too much of a reach to select either Robert Ayers or Michael Johnson, who will likely be the best 4-3 DE prospects available at 15.
That leaves OLB, the position that I and others assume the Texans will concentrate on in the first round. We need someone that can step in and start in 2009, preferably by Week 1. Also, it would be beneficial to select a LB can play from either the strong side or weak side. In 2008, Xavier Adibi and Zac Diles both showed huge potential for the future, but unfortunately both were victims of injuries. Adibi’s lack of size limits him almost exclusively to the WLB position, while Diles excelled at WLB with 66 tackles in eight games; his 240 pounds would probably allow him to play SLB as well. Ideally, whoever we select has the ability to play either side, allowing Bush to develop some kind of rotation, which would add to the attractive unpredictability factor I've spoken of before.
It takes a talented linebacker to be able to play from either the weak or strong side. SLBs commonly have to shed blocks from fullbacks, tight ends and tackles, which requires size and strength. WLBs commonly have to cover RBs in both zone and man coverage on passing plays and also chase down running plays from behind, all of which requires speed. The ability to play both WLB and SLB requires a great deal of intelligence in order to fully understand the nuances of both positions. Hopefully Bush will implement blitz packages for this unknown rookie from both outside positions in an effort to fool opposing offenses.
It will take an extremely talented player to fulfill all of these requirements. Luckily, this year’s draft class features an exceptionally deep pool of LBs. Once you weed out linebackers that are unable to do everything we need them to do, however, the field gets pretty small. In my estimation, there are three LBs that may be able step in and fill our void: Clint Sintim, Clay Matthews Jr. and Brian Cushing.
Clint Sintim, University of Virginia (Video Highlights)
Pros – Sintim shows non-stop drive when he is on the attack. Sintim started all four years as one of the OLBs in Virginia’s 3-4 defensive scheme, which is unique at the college level. While playing in the 3-4, Sintim’s ability to rush the passer was displayed by his 26 career sacks, 10 of them coming in his senior year. Once he gets a head of steam he often simply runs over would-be blockers instead of running around them.
Cons – Sintim’s lack of speed will not translate well to rushing the passer on the professional level. He performs exceptionally at the point of attack on run plays, but has shown an inability to track down and tackle ball carriers in the open field; a trait that was identified during the Senior Bowl week. Due to this shortcoming, some coaches and scouts are speculating that Sintim would be most successful after a switch to ILB.
Analysis – Sintim is a talented player, but he would probably not be good for our system. In fact, even though he has the skills to play either in a 4-3 or 3-4, it would almost be a waste to not utilize him in the latter since he already has a four year head start. I believe one of the teams drafting toward the end of the first round who utilize the 3-4 will end up swiping him, but the 15-20 range where we’ll likely be picking is too early to take a player that doesn’t fully fit.
Clay Matthews Jr., University of Southern California (Video Highlights – sorry they're cheesy)
Pros – Matthews never quits both on and off the field. The rare mixture of premier football genetics and snubs due to late development has led to Matthews having an extremely good talent to work ethic ratio. Matthews was utilized as a DE/OLB hybrid in college, and showed talent at both rushing the quarterback and in pass coverage. Incredibly quick for his size, Matthews would probably improve drastically as a pass rusher after obtaining more experience. There is also very little injury concern with Matthews.
Cons – Only started his senior year, so there’s very little on-the-field play to evaluate. While no one questions Matthews' drive, some scouts have whispered concerns that he simply doesn’t have the physical ability to be an elite NFL LB. Has shown some problems shedding blocks, which would hinder his ability to play SLB, which is where the Texans' need is greatest for next year.
Analysis – He definitely has the character to fit in instantly in our locker room, and if it is possible for him to continue to develop physically, there is no question he would put in the effort to do so. At the Combine, he actually stated that he would love to play in Houston as he has fond memories of the city from visiting his uncle, who consequently now coaches for the Texans. Quite the coincidence. If he could continue to get stronger and learn from Bush, who’s forte is LBs, he could be a perfect fit.
Brian Cushing, University of Southern California (Video Highlights)
Pros – Some of us BRB regulars often badmouth Cushing for various reasons, but there’s a reason why he’ll be drafted in the first round. Cushing is a blue chipper who started all four years for one of the best college programs in the country. Out of the three listed, Cushing has the best overall run stopping ability, both near the line and in open space. Cushing has also shown some ability to rush the passer.
Cons – Injuries are a huge concern, especially since most of them deal with his legs. Even though he was a starter from the beginning of his career, 2008 was the only year in which he had decent stats because it was his first full season. Steroid allegations are still on the periphery of discussion, which cause some scouts to speculate that he won’t be able to maintain his physical state in the NFL due to stricter testing procedures. Additionally, Cushing rarely finished pressure on the quarterback with sacks.
Analysis – I am an admitted naysayer when it comes to Cushing. One of my biggest complaints is that while he makes a decent amount of tackles, he doesn’t seem to HIT people that often. And why roll the dice on someone who already has had persistent knee and ankle injuries? Many people thought he would perform much better at the Combine, specifically in the 40, because they had seen him run much faster before. Well, the kid knew he was going to be tested, and all of the sudden he’s running a full .15 seconds slower and everyone is shocked. Something smells.
While I feel that my reasoning for the Texans to select an OLB with their first pick is sound, I have to admit that bias likely influenced not only my selection of potential prospects for our first pick, but also the analysis of those players chosen. People could make very convincing cases for Brian Cushing, Clint Sintim, and others I didn’t even list, but in the end I think Matthews has the best potential to fill our need. If we do pick Matthews, people will undoubtedly use the usual description of "reach" to describe him. That, in all actuality, would probably be the best thing we could hope for, because Matthews has made it his business to prove personal doubters wrong.
Now I’d like to hear from you, BRB faithful. Which of these three, or any of the other LBs in the draft, do you think would fit best for the Houston Texans?
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cushing, matthews, then sintim
as of now id say our need in first round is
1. Safety (Malcolm Jenkins and nothing else)
2. OLB (The ones u r discusiing)
3. DE If Orakpo, falls hes s no brainer
4. DT if Raji falls hes a no brainer
5. Trade
6. WR (WHAT??? If maclin is there i might consider it)
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Mar 5, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like WR a lot
definitely in that order, but I don’t think its that poor of a choice.
We just locked up WR4, and WR1 and WR2 are talented enough. WR3 has shown flashes, but at #15 if the BPA is good enough to be a WR1 on any team without AJ, especially with big play potential, we may get into the end zone more frequently. While we had a top 10 offense, we definitely didn’t have a top 10 red zone or scoring offense.
This is not a bad situation for us, but only since we signed A. Smith.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Mar 6, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OLB talk
Honestly, since it became fairly certain that Orakpo, E. Brown, and Raji weren’t going to be there – I think we were always going to go OLB with or without Antonio Smith in the fold… but the Smith signing definitely pushes it to almost a lock for me.
Right now, I like Matthews first. Cushing’s injury issues scare me, and Matt’s observation about his squat numbers were very influential for me. Plus, you know… pretty boy. I don’t like pretty boys.
I know about all the concerns with Matthews – but for me, having only one year of starting and him not having the talent to be “elite” are not as big of concerns for me as Cushing’s repeated leg issues, and um… again – pretty boy. It’s a hang up for me, sorry.
I think Sintim could do fine for us in our 4-3. I hesitate to put him ahead of Cushing, but depending on where we end up picking in the first – I wouldn’t mind seeing him.
I wish there was a chance in hell Raji would fall. He’s gonna wreck in the NFL.
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Mar 6, 2009 12:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Some people, like Yahoo Sports, assumed we would reach for a DE, and I did too. Smithiak knew that Johnson, Ayers and Kruger were all going to be gone by our second round pick, and we had to absolutely get a starting caliber DE before the Smith Acquisition. I’m not saying it’s was a definite, and now we’ll never know, but it was beginning to seem that way.
Let's get the Texans a better fight song.
by Jake on Mar 6, 2009 6:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares what Yahoo thinks?
For the record – that draft has Paul Kruger falling out of the 2nd. Does anyone think that’s even a remote possibility?
There’s no way the Texans spend #15 on a DE, unless a guy they didn’t expect falls to them… and even then, doubtful. Clearly the guy for Yahoo is looking at that from a football-only standpoint, and not taking the financial side into account. Mario has a huge contract, and will have to be given an even bigger one before his comes up. Smith has a pretty big free agent contract – and now you’re going to spend #15 overall money on a guy who’s not going to start? Or cause Smith not to start? Pigs will fly first. Michael Irvin will give up crack. Emmitt Smith will read a book.
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Mar 6, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like your selection of Matthews for a reason that some may see as a negative
Because he started only one year I see as a big plus. Why?
1) He had to work hard to improve to get to the level of starting LB for one of the best defenses in college football. Reminds me of Michael Jordan’s North Carolina experience. This shows great character, and means that he will continue to work hard and improve. His dad and uncle are great role models, and I see him following in their footsteps, having a long, successful NFL career.
2) While he has worked hard to build up his body, he has absorbed much less punishment because he has seen less action. As many injury and steroid issues surround Cushing, Matthews has no such concerns. Health is so important in the NFL that I would pass on Cushing based on that alone (as Chris has already stated).
As important as the DE position is, I would still want to go Kruger or Ayers if they are available at 46. An eight man DLine rotation is desirable. Many teams including the Texans do this because the position is so physically demanding. The Giants Super Bowl team was very successful rotating DE’s. Even with the addition of Smith, another DE with pass rushing skills would be a valuable addition (given that we get a high caliber OLB with our 1st pick).
by oiler-texan diehard on Mar 6, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, you really know your football
I am a Blazers fan just skimming the football blogs here, and you can write up a storm. Anyway, I was reading this and came across the SLB vs. WLB, and realized I don’t know the difference. I thought the strong side was the side with the RB. It seems like it’s the opposite. Could you provide some clarity for my ignorance?
BTW, I’m not a Texans fan per say, but I root for you guys when the Eagles aren’t on. I mean, you hate the cowboys, so you’re good in my book.
It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.
by einman77 on Mar 6, 2009 12:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sure
Thanks for the kind words. While Tackles and Guards don’t switch sides, the TE does, and whatever side he’s plaing on is the strong side. The majority of running plays are designed to go to the strong side because you have an extra blocker and various other reasons. Due to the majority of running plays coming to the strong side, the SLB, or “Sam” as they’re sometimes called, has to be strong and able to shed blocks in order to tackle the RB for minimal gain. The WLB, or “Will”, ends up covering the RB a lot on pass plays because many of them are designed so that the RB runs out in the unoccupied area of the field on the weak side in order to provide the QB with a last option if everyone is covered or a quick throw if the blitz is coming. WLB’s also have to persue running plays that are designed to go toward the strong side, so therefore they have to be fast enough to cover RB’s and chase them down from behind as they are weaving through traffic.
I hope that all makes sense, it was kind of a stream of consciousness as I was drinking my first cup of coffee. Hope you come back here regularly einman.
Let's get the Texans a better fight song.
by Jake on Mar 6, 2009 6:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I probably will
Seriously, this is the most in depth football blog I have read on SBN. I don’t really have an AFC team, and have no problems with the Texans. I’m sure this won’t be the last time I visit this site.
It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.
by einman77 on Mar 6, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who hates the Cowboys is welcome here
…if you really want to get along with the locals, you should hate the Titans as well.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Mar 6, 2009 8:07 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Great Analysis
I’d rank them as follows:
1. Matthews
2. Sintim
3. Cushing
While I think the odds are that we go LB with that first round pick, I am starting to get really excited about the possibility of DET trading up to 15 in order to guarantee themselves a shot at Mark Sanchez. It worked for us last year; it can work for us again.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Mar 6, 2009 8:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This would be great
Because if San Diego takes an OLB, I would bet money they like Cushing. Just a hunch though.
Let's get the Texans a better fight song.
by Jake on Mar 6, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bet you're right.
He’d be a good fit in SD.
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Mar 6, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be cool..
To get Mathews, and get a life long Texan from that blood line.
GO TEXANS!!!!
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by Texanmaniac on Mar 6, 2009 9:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is really great analysis!
To illustrate the opposite end of the spectrum, I just glanced at Todd McShay’s mock pick for the Texans: Mark Sanchez. What a %$#@ moron!
That’s an interesting point about the steroids and Cushing.
The true test in the life of a Texans fan is how gracefully you endure it.
by TexanKurt on Mar 6, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great article
This really was a great read… thanks! Alot of people like to talk football but usually they just go on and on about nothing but you brought up alot of great points.
P.S. Todd McShay should be fired for saying that Sanchez is coming to Houston. Why is it that ESPN feels they have to find a spot for a guy that is obviously slipping in the draft? Maybe this will be a lesson to people to stay in college.
by wasteph on Mar 6, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Love Detroit!
Mention of Detroit trading up makes me drool. Don’t they have 2 picks in the 1st, 2nd and the 3rd or 4th? Our 15th for their 20th and Dallas’ 2nd round pick! I know I’m daydreaming but what the heck.
by Football Friek on Mar 6, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Alternative to Mathews.
Excellent article, thankyou. I have been watching an OLB out of Western Illinois. Jason Williams, 6’3"-235. He looks pretty good and might be a sleeper in the 3rd round. I haven’t been able to find Mathews stats for the combine, does anyone have them? Williams is 4.49 in the 40 with 28 reps, and 39" vertical. How does this compare to Mathews? Whichever way Smithiak goes, it’s just nice to be comfortable after signing Smith. I no longer feel that half of the positions on the team need a #1 pick to fill a hole, but I do agree that LB is our most pressing issue now.
by Football Friek on Mar 6, 2009 6:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
HOLY CRAP!
I just finished trying to find Mathews combine stats, again. The only one a found was his 40, at 4.67. But I found Curry’s. 40 @ 4.56, benched 25 reps, and a vertical of 37". This Williams kid out of W. Illinois beat all of those and nobody that I can find even mentioned him. Trying to find out more about him. This kid may be the super sleeper of this year’s draft.
by Football Friek on Mar 6, 2009 6:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lance Z lists Rob Rang as one guy that he respects for draft analysis
He lists Matthew’s numbers (I assume they are from the combine) here. 4.62 in the 40, 23 reps and a 35 1/2" vertical
He also mentions Jason Williams as one of his “risers”, but curiously enough he has him ranked #157 on his big board, the #14 OLB, projected to go in the 5th round. Perhaps he has not yet updated his big board.
by oiler-texan diehard on Mar 7, 2009 7:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rob Rang also has us taking Chris Wells at 15.
So, you know. Grain of salt. I like Rang too – but that pick baffles me. That’s a message board pick.
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Mar 7, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wells in 1st?
I kinda question that too. I still like Rashad Jennings. Thanks for the info and the Rob Rang’s name. All I know is that those 2 4th round picks are looking better and better no matter which way Smithiak goes.
by Football Friek on Mar 7, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
…and I’d love it if we could somehow pick up an extra second rounder. There’s SO much pick value around our #46 pick at so many need positions.
I think the best we can hope for with our first round trade down is a first and a third, but if we could get someone desperate to give us a second if we kick in that extra fourth – that would be fantastic.
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Mar 7, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I heard someone on 610 the other day saying that Belichick loves 2nd round picks
Sorry, can’t remember who said it but one look at the draft pick value chart shows that #46 is equal in value to the 1st 4 picks of the 4th round.
McShay has us going with Sanchez, and Rang says Beanie? WTF are these guys smoking, or are we all being blinded by reality? The Texans did have a pretty decent offense last year, didn’t they? Our pass rush kinda’ sucked, didn’t it? Just shows you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to make a mockery of a mock draft. I see us moving down to 20 because Detroit will do the right thing and go either OT or Curry with the 1st pick, and than will want to get Sanchez before either the Jets or TB snags him. We will likely get their #3, I can’t see them parting with their #2 (34th overall)
by oiler-texan diehard on Mar 7, 2009 6:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe This?
I think the only way Detroit might part with the 2nd round is if we don’t take their #20 pick, see if they’ll trade the 2nd round and 3rd round or even more for our 1st, and keep our extra fourth. I wonder if Smithiak reads this? I’m just a big fan of the late round picks because I think we get more bang for our buck. That leaves cap room for proven free agents, so far I like the moves Smithiak’s making this year.
by Football Friek on Mar 8, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not capable of doing the analysis
but I remember back when I used to do fantasy football drafts, I would analyze each position for depth, trying to project a point value for each player at each (skill) position. The positions with the least dropoff from #1 to #10 would be the lowest priority, and vice versa. If the Texans are convinced that the dropoff in value between picks 15 and 33 for OLB or Tweener is not that great, then maybe that is possible.
From the draft pick value chart, pick # 15 = 1050 points. Detroit holds picks #‘s 33 = 580, 65 = 265 and 82 = 180. We trade our 1st for their 2nd and 2 3rds. Doesn’t sound too crazy to me if Smithiak thinks we can get an immediate contributor at OLB with pick #33.
by oiler-texan diehard on Mar 8, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
chargers draft
pft is reporting that they lost olshanky to the cowboys. do you think this will make them more likely to draft a defensive player in the first round regardless of what happens with LT?
by cubic on Mar 6, 2009 7:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think so. Tyson Jackson would figure to be on their radar @ 16.
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Mar 6, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Curry
Has there been any buzz on trading up to get Aaron Curry?
Maybe the Texans could give up a 3rd or one of there two 4th round picks
Maybe somebody should start flooding the radio stations with that Idea
Just a thought…
by Hangbok on Mar 8, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Love the idea!
I brought it up the other day on DGDB&D, I think, and it was quickly shot down, but I would absolutely love this to happen. I know it would cost a great deal to move as far as I think we’d need to, I think Curry would go a long way to making our D look like it’s supposed to. not to mention that this is not a great draft for safety and LDE prospects, which are our other areas of need.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Mar 8, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trading into the top three?
No thanks. According to the trade value chart, the 3rd pick (just for argument’s sake) is 2200 points. The combined value of our first, second, third, fourth, and fifth round picks is 1807. Were still a mid 2nd round pick away from even getting close to Curry, and that would cost us the entire draft or a huge part of our draft + a player on our team worth something.
What I would I wouldn’t mind, however, is to trade back up into second round. Much more cost effective, and we could essentially pull the trigger on a player with value at that pick – one of the top safeties, DE depth, Ron Brace or perhaps another stand out NT, OLB (depending how the first round goes), RB, or even a dominant G or C. If Alex Mack or Max Unger was still available around pick 10 of the second round, Gary might pull the trigger to help solidify the OL.
by Riott on Mar 8, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, not top 3...
My trading up scenario was contingent on Curry sliding past 5. This would still be extremely costly, but I wouldn’t move up to three. Guess I shoulda said that.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Mar 9, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
assume
Re: “I assume that if somehow Brown, Orakpo, Raji or Jenkins fell to us, it would be a quick decision”
Does it make me some kind of communist to announce that I don’t want any of these players? Because I don’t.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Mar 8, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll give you Brown
The rest of the players on that list are slated to go before us because they are that talented. Talented enough to the point that we could use them on our roster no matter where they ended up playing.
I respect the fact that not everyone thinks the same way I do. To each his own.
Let's get the Texans a better fight song.
by Jake on Mar 8, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
??
U DON’T LIKE ORAKPO?!?!? really? that’s almost the ONLY player i like in this draft, well, him and mark sanchez but we’re not in the market for a qb and Moreno tickles my fancy slightly.
by wiseonekms on Mar 19, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not a huge fan of Brown or Orakpo on the Texans
But a 323 lb NT with aggressive hand and pass rush skills?
And a corner who played pretty bad ass in college at the corner and FS position against good competition?
If Raji fell to us, I would literally drive to Houston and punch Rick Smith if he passed on him. The only other acceptable thing would be to use him still available to bid up a trade war for someone to trade up to take him. Jenkins, I wouldn’t commit felonies for, but I still would be slightly miffed.
by Riott on Mar 8, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just don't like Raji
Can’t really tell you why, but he just doesn’t impress me much. I’m likely extremely wrong, but that’s just my gut feeling.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Mar 9, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gerber syndrome?
is it cuz he looks like a giant baby? if u look reeaaal closesly sometimes he even looks like a chocolate version of that marshmallow monster from ghostbusters….he doesn’t really strike “fear” in anyone’s hearts w/ the way he looks. could that be it?
by wiseonekms on Mar 19, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back to Aaron Curry and Others
there is a lot of serious talk coming from NFL peoples about Curry being an instant impact and super stud, …and seems that where the Texans are drafting that there are a few questions marks in regards to talent and character of some of the players that may be available…putting “trade value charts” and what not aside, I would love to see the Texans take a chance on this kid. Regarding the rest of the draft, I was reading an article that Lance Zeirline (can’t spell worth shit) wrote and he was mentioning some mid round picks that look good. One of which was Glen Coffee (RB Alabama) Man I love that pick if the Texans can get him in the fourth round. But my question to all of you; what is The Texans Second & Third round Picks?…Is there a big nasty, filthy, crusty toed Strong Safety worth picking? I want to see somebody that has violent criminal tendency’s deep in the secondary!!
By the way beefy…that is one of the coolest lines ever…Pulp Fiction…“Bacon tastes Gooood Pork Chops taste Gooooood”…I work with Muslim dudes over in the Middle East (imagine that…a muslim in the mid east) and always quote that line joking around…dudes don’t know what they are missin! Bum Phillips Thick Cut Peppered Bacon…Oh Yeah
by Hangbok on Mar 9, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen, brother!
Btw, where are you currently residin’?
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Mar 10, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I should have said “Was Working” in the Middle East, I was working in Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait and UAE but I left two months ago and am currently in Angola (No Muslims, just crazy ass natives) But that is no lie, I used that line all the time, because I was missin good swine…when I was in Amman I would order a pizza with pepperoni and it would be beef…damn it!
OK back to Football…Texans need a strong safety…who do they get??
by Hangbok on Mar 10, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mid East --> Angola
Let me guess……oil & gas industry?
by Shake on Mar 10, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking Sweaters...
No?
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Mar 10, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are correct
that’s it – Sweaters and Kittens…
Actually I was doing military support in the mid east before I went back to my natural habitat which is oil & gas. it’s what makes the world go round! So for all you tree humpin assholes…go sit on stick…literally. But I don’t think there are any tree huggers that love football., so they would not see this comment anyway
Back to Football…The Texans will get a good to great outside linebacker in the first round sooooooooo – where are the Texans going to find the next Ronnie Lott, Kenny Houston, or Troy Polamalu. They need a great safety.
by Hangbok on Mar 12, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't look like it will happen this year
but it would not be a big surprise if we use our #2 (46) on a safety, and we could go either SS or FS. William Moore, Sean Smith, Patrick Chung and Louis Delmas are all possibilities. Rashad Johnson could be a third rounder. None of those guys, however, seem to be anywhere close to being superstar caliber.
We resigned both Wilson and Ferguson for the ’09 season. Dominique Barber is going to be given every chance to be the starter next to Wilson.
by oiler-texan diehard on Mar 15, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Connor Barwin anyone?
I was watching the combine highlights and noticed this freak named Connor Barwin. They say he’s a converted TE to DE/OLB type, and his measurements were INSANE. The best case scenario for drafting a guy like him would be (of course) if Orakpo falls to us at 15 and then we either move up or we get lucky again and nab this kid in the 2nd round. What say u guys? any positive feelings about this kid? I really liked what I saw from the highlights.
by wiseonekms on Mar 19, 2009 11:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Barwin
I like him, but his stock is rising enough that I don’t think he makes it to Round Two. Which means, as of now, we’d have to take him at 15, and I don’t think I’d do that yet.
Now, if we managed to trade back into the 20s? He’d be one of the guys I’d want.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Mar 21, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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