Open Thread: 2009 NFL Draft
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 8:00 AM CDT
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A text I sent to TransientTexan and a handful of other buddies when I saw ESPN report that the Lions agreed to terms with Matthew Stafford earlier tonight:
Stafford gets almost $42 mil guaranteed from Detroit. I'd shoot myself in the face twice if I was a Lions fan right now.
And with that, the 2009 NFL Draft is off and running. As urged here, share your thoughts, observations, blasts, and kudos in the Comments below. It's Christmas in April, people. Let us all bask in its warming glow.
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poor lions fans
good thing we have smithiak
by cubic on Apr 25, 2009 8:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We Have a BFD Sighting!
My day is now made.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
go fetch me a real beer
not that curs light crap. some whiskey and nachos would be nice, too.
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got It
Come on down to H-Town to pick it all up.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
starting next year...
that’s my plan. :-)
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Stafford could be damn good. He could bust, tackle is safer, but . . .
The real issue is the lions being screwed by the number one pick itself. I mean they didn’t even want it because of the dollars.
Wait, does anyone remember us not wanting the number one pick? Good thing we have Smithiak . . .
by JMay on Apr 25, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Stafford
Yes, he could bust, and I think he’s far more likely to bust than, say, Jason Smith. That’s who I would’ve gone with at No. 1. Wouldn’t have wanted to pay a linebacker $30 mil guaranteed, but no way I’d have given Matt Stafford more guaranteed money than anyone in the NFL.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time will tell
My point is not that he necessarily will make it (though I think he will). Just that even if you say he has higher bust potential, let’s not say poor Lions fans just yet. Let him bust first. It’s not like they took VY.
by JMay on Apr 25, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Biggest Problem With The Stafford Pick
Probably isn’t even Stafford himself, though I’m not sold on him. My issue is that I think a team should build inside out—start on each line and work from there. I just don’t think the Lions did themselves a service by spending that kind of money on a QB when there is so much room for improvement on their OL and DL.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a steal Slaton was last year!
I hope we can do something similar – trade down and add someone with definite value.
I trust we’ll have a great draft. Smith knows what he’s doing.
by WhiskeyR on Apr 25, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well we know that the curse of bobby lane will continue in the motor city
i would feel sorry for stafford but there are 42 million reasons why i dont. really, guaranteed 42 million dollars over 6 years and 72ish maximum. i was really rooting for A. Curry or J. Smith with the number 1 overall pick. they have a better chance of success. poor poor lions fans.
by kcc28 on Apr 25, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Curry was never really an option, and Jason Smith has the same agent as Matt Stafford, and his agent was going to get more money through having a QB go #1 and a T go #2 than a T going #1 and a QB maybe going 4th.
It was Stafford all along. ESPN was lazy to entertain the idea that the Lions would actually draft a LB first overall. It’s almost, but not quite, as ridiculous as drafting a small RB first overall…
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your right
i just dont get why a franchise wouldnt draft the number 1 overall player in the draft, like Curry was in this year’s draft. drafting a QB with #1 doesnt automatically make your team better all around. the only thing the lions franchise has going for them is the 20 pick in the draft as well like the Cleveland Browns did a couple of years ago. but unlike the Lions, Browns went OL first and then went after a QB.
by kcc28 on Apr 25, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s because even if a player is the best player in the draft, his position still matters. Reggie Bush, even if he was Gale Sayers, wouldn’t be worth the contract Mario got, because he’s a running back. He would have instantly become the highest-paid running back in the league. Same deal with Curry. He’s “just” a linebacker. I don’t meant to diminish his skills, but you can only really afford to pay a guy so many dollars over the very best at his position.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't remember the draft starting so late before... What is up with this? I always remembered it starting at noon.
by shiner37 on Apr 25, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you're right, I think
It always seemed to start at 11am-ish. Three more hours of heart burn, I guess.
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm convinced
That reincarnated murderers come back as Detroit Lions fans in their next life.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hello Texans fans!
What’s up Texans blogosphere?! I’m hung over, pounding a 32-oz Pepsi, and eating some chili. Let’s do this thing! Let’s get our premature evaluation on!
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking earlier...
Kubiak has done a pretty outstanding job in retrospect. I understand on the surface why people think that Kubiak is on the hot seat, but looking further into it, they’ve done a really great job. Imagine how much further along our team would be if we had Schaub AND the two-second rounders we had to hand over to get him. I am convinced that second-rounders need to be the meat and potatoes of your team, but I don’t regret us trading for Schaub for a minute. I guess my point is that Kubiak has done a better job than I think most people give him credit for, and he’s going to really get us going once we can use these second rounders. See: DeMeco Ryans.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kubiak's not going anywhere
He’s not on the hot seat unless they go 2-14 which they won’t. I’ll take a few misguided challenge flags and some questionable time out calling in order to consistently nail draft picks and set a solid, steady tone for the organization. He does it the right way. People just want to hate.
by JMay on Apr 25, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree completely.
Kubiak has done a whole lot of good for this organization and it won’t go unnoticed by McNair.
by WhiskeyR on Apr 25, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kubes' Future
Kubes’ future as the head coach in his hometown is tied completely to how Frank Bush fares as defensive coordinator. If Bush is the badass Kubes thinks he is, Kubes should be here for many years. If Bush isn’t ready for prime time, both his head and Kubes’ head will roll.
Rick Smith, however, is pretty much bulletproof at this point, I think.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rick Smith and Kubes
I get the feeling that Rick Smith’s fortune is tied to Kubiak in a weird sort of way. It’s a strange dynamic where it almost seems as if the coach picked the GM. I do think if one and only one of the two gets fired, it will be Kubes first. It’s hard to imagine a GM not getting a chance to hire his own coach, but that’s why the Smithiak dynamic is so strange.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Casserly
I literally want to punch the TV every time I see his face. How in the hell can anyone call him an expert?
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
My wife has no idea who he is but she knows everytime he comes on tv
because I start cussing and say how much I hate him.
by shiner37 on Apr 25, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you Tim...
how this guy has any credibility left is inconceivable to me. See the Jason Babin and Phillip Buchanon deals. Those two moves set the franchise back several years. The Buchanon deal was so bad that even the patient (to a fault) Bob McNair decided to fire him because of that. He brought in Dan Reeves first as a “consultant”. The ultimate irony is that Casserly was still on board (lame duck at best) when we had our Mario-DeMeco-Winston-OD super draft. I’d like to believe that Smithiak made all the decisions and that Casserly was jsut an empty suit in the war room that weekend. It makes me queasy anytime I hear someone give Casserly credit for the decision to select Mario. I just can’t believe that he suddenly got “smart” after so many absolutely stupid moves.
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thirded
Casserly is a joke but not as much of a joke as Matt Millen is. I guess the difference is that Casserly is actually being asked about the draft, whereas Millen is kept away from the topic.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox made Millen part of their team for the Super Bowl broadcast
what a friggin’ joke. Why would any serious football fan want to hear what he has to say? His legacy as a loser coach & GM is permanently etched in stone. Kinda overshadows his excellent playing career, similar to Isaiah Thomas.
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NBC hired him for their Sunday night games too, I think
College games also
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's worse
is when he gives HIMSELF credit for it…eeew
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Credit for what? Miring the Lions into a decade of futility
I will be amazed if he ever gets hired by another NFL team to do anything. Fox embarasses themselves by giving him a mike.
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch the draft live on the intertubes
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/live/landing?icampaign=DraftLive_NFLN is going to have it live on the internet. The NFL Network coverage last year was way better than the ESPN coverage.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bump
Tim, are you going to have this thread be a big-ass one for the first round, or are you going to break it up by first ten picks, second ten picks, etc?
I’m stoked! Sorry for spamming the thread…
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bump
We’re going to keep this thread open until the Texans make their move, be it picking at 15, trading down, or trading up. Once the Texans make that move, we’ll post a thread allowing everyone to react; we’ll also open a new thread immediately after for general draft talk.
If this thread starts running slow due to the number of comments, we’ll open another one before the Texans make their move.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mort Anderson
Says he’s got big news about Michael Vick. Some are speculating that he might be traded today.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind
I guess the news is that Goodell is sending Tony Dungy to talk to Micahel Vick in prison to determine if he is truely remorseful for what he did. Interesting.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s interesting. Weird that he’d send Dungy, who might have a dog in the fight, so to speak.
btw, wikipedia says Vick is still under contract with the Falcons, so I was wrong about that.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
Goodell thinks that Dungy brings a certain amount of credibility so if he gives Vick a clean bill of health, it will lesson the PR fallout.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Must be a PR move
At least, like you suggest, one where Dungy would provide some PR cover for Goodell. But isn’t Dungy the most objective and qualified person to do so? Why not send a team of psychologists to interview him instead?
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it's all about PR, not the truth
anyways, does being a psychopath disqualify you from playing in the NFL? I don’t think so.
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It should
Besides, the guy lied to Goodell’s face on numerous occasions. Goodell has really nothing to gain from letting Vick back in.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Goodell thinks Vick has one iota of value to the NFL he will let him back in
regardless of his emtional state. It’s all about TV ratings, ticket sales and merchandising. Money talks.
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love dogs
It sounds wierd, but I would put his crime up there with assualt and rape because it shows a complete lack of heart completely. I know there are som people that don’t think it’s a big deal, but I will hate Vick for the rest of his career.
Sorry for the random tangent
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pointless.
I think it’s a stunt and an obnoxious one at that. I don’t think even Dungy can save Vick in the court of public opinion.
Goodell needs to go. He’s a tyrant.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goodell
What’s your beef with Goodell? I’m not banging on you, just interested in what you have to say… He’s certainly tried to strong arm a few things, such as player discipline issues. And he’s stepped into the spotlight a few times to make sure it shone on him. But I don’t have a problem with the way he’s run things so far, at least not right off-hand.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Goodell
My problem with Goodell is the way he conducts himself and the message he’s sent to the players. Look, I understand the need for discipline… but I think he goes beyond the pale in how he handles these matters. I also find it a bit questionable how public these things become and how little explanation and justification he offers when handing down his Caesar-like sentences.
I feel like Goodell has escalated the speed with which the NFL is heading towards a truly “No Fun League” and I think he’s so transparent in his business motives that it’s insulting to the fans. 18 games? Give me a break. You better increase the rosters by at least 5 players because otherwise people will be limping into the playoffs with the water boy taking snaps.
Overall I don’t like the way he handles himself, I don’t respect his autocratic approach to discipline, and I don’t like the direction the league is heading.
Otherwise, I think he’s great.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In addition:
I fear for the upcoming CBA with Goodell at the helm. The current one already bones the players, and I can’t see Goodell giving much – if any – slack in the negotiations. I would say the chances of a lock-out are 5x more likely with him involved.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Goodell
I can sympathize with that view. He does seem a bit autocratic with his sentencing. I think he handled the Vick thing appropriately, but yeah, I Don’t like a few of the other things, like the Marshawn Lynch deal. And while I don’t like Pacman Jones, I don’t like how Goodell handled that, either.
18 games – that’s right, I forgot about that. That is pretty outrageous.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed about Vick
For me it all boils down to the general direction I feel the league is heading… and my gut is telling me something isn’t right.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Cassel
Just signed a 6-year deal, $36 mil guaranteed. I think Cassel is a system guy who will get blowed up this year in KC, but it’s still amazing that an 11-5 NFL QB gets less guaranteed than a underwhelming college QB.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Cassel is overrated
It was one season, with one of the most complete teams in the NFL. I don’t think he’ll be terrible, but I also don’t thik he’ll ever be elite.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm gonna disagree
he’ll be elite if they establish solid players around him. He has that “cold blooded” killer instinct to him. I like Cassel ALOT, he’s got good accuracy, good legs, but more importantly he’s got that killer feel to him. I’m a Cassel fan.
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't saying he's going to flame, I was just suggesting that going 11-5 with the Pats
is not nearly as big an achievement as some may perceive. If he can win in KC, then there will be no doubt left whether or not he is a winner.
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Cassel
Between that deal and Delhomme somehow getting $20 mil guaranteed, Schaub’s contract is going to look like an ever bigger bargain.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are the Lions INSANE?
PFT says they tried to move up to #3 overall as well, AFTER signing Stafford.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 1:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Figured It Out
Millen is still pulling the strings. They only pretended to fire him.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's actually not terrible
They have so many draft picks, and they could then get stafford and someone like eugene monroe. Maybe I’m stupid, but I don’t actually mind that move.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess they underbid
They offered their 20 and 33 just to take a flyer. 20 + 33 is still 770 points short of what the 3rd is worth according to the draft chart. SOunds like they were just fishing.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the huge amount of guaranteed money that I have a problem with.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
I can’t argue with that. But a lot of people say that if you want a LT this year, you better get him early. I guess the moral of the story is that they should have gone LT with the first overall pick.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess you have to toss Jason Smith out of the equation then
Lions were negotiating with Smith (supposedly) and presumably put an offer on the table. Now that the agent can claim that the Lions valued Smith as a #1 overall pick, he can demand that same sort of money from the #3 spot. Not that he’d get it – but it would make the negotiations a lot tougher.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Riddle me this
If you could lock up a franchise QB and a franchise LT by mortgaging your picks – would you do it? Premier players at those two positions are always going to come at a cost. Get em’ both now and you’ve got a tandem that can play together for a long time.
I think it’s a bold move, honestly.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't concede that Stafford is a franchise QB.
It’s a no-brainer if you know for sure. I would do it. I would give up three first rounders for the second-coming of Peyton Manning without blinking. But you don’t know that’s the case with Stafford. And now more than ever the Lions need picks to build their team with, not to give up for one other player.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not exactly my point
Disregarding for a second that I – and I think many others – think Stafford is a bad pick. Pretend for a second you had enough picks to:
(a) Take a franchise QB at #1
(b) Trade up to #3 and take a franchise LT
Would you do it? I’d certainly consider it long and hard.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming They're Truly Franchise Players
Sure you do it.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
The Lions really believe Stafford is their guy. I think it’s a bold move. I applaud it – especially if they keep trying to get up there to really get a solid LT.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose it depends on what you're giving up
But yeah, I’d totally do it. I’d try to take the tackle at #1 and the QB at #3, to reduce the price of the contracts… haha. But at any rate, yeah, if you could get Orlando Pace and Peyton Manning by giving up three years worth of first and second rounders, you’d totally do it.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
If you have the chance to get a franchise QB and a franchise LT, you pay the price. But I think Stafford’s very, very far from a franchise QB.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually
Not sold on Smith either. I know he’s an idiot, but Andre Smith will be the best LT in this draft as long as someone put’s him on a leash
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
y r people so anti-Stafford?
I think he’s def got the skills to be good. He played for a rock solid college program, he’s got all the physical tools. I think we judge too quickly. EVERYONE thought Ryan and Flacco from last year were garbage, let’s just give them some time before we count Stafford out.
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neve impressed
He played at a top tier school – and he never impressed. Had all the weapons around him as well. Plus I don’t like his attitude. I just don’t think he has the killer / winner mentality that you need to be a top flight QB.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair Point
I was definitely one of those who thought Ryan would be a colossal bust. Let’s call that Reason No. 11,269,349 that I am not a GM in the NFL.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who thought they were garbage?
I remember those guys being highly-touted. The problem with Stafford is that he DID play at a rock solid college program, with a first-round RB, and a likely second-round WR (Massaquao or whatever) and he has virtually nothing to show for it.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unrelated:
Indulge me for a second.
Would you all trade Felix Hernandez for Prince Fielder?
My other starting Ps are Santana, Sabathia, Harang, and Grieke. But my bats are running cold – especially in HR and RBI.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're Getting Fielder, Right?
If so, I’d absolutely make that trade. Felix has yet to put together the kind of year that’s expected from him, and Prince is a mortal lock for 30+ HR.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I'm getting Fielder
Hernandez has started hot so of course I’m nervous. But my plan was to stockpile Ps, stay close w/ solid/workman bats and then trade my Ps for bats later in the season. But the bats are running cold and I think I need to strike while the iron (Hernandez) is hot. And Fielder is cold.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I’m not a big Fielder fan, but I absolutely hate Felix. The guy’s a perennial disappointment; I’d get rid of him in a second.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I don’t really like either to be fair – Felix is a massive tease, and Fielder is… who knows?
But fantasy is all I have. The Astros are just… are… tear
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nono
trade Sabathia instead. Hernandez is in ACE form. I’ve kept Hernandez on my roster for 3 yrs straight. He is a staple, minus the durability issues, he is nasty. Trade Sabathia man, he’s too risky and his weight is catching up to him, his velocity is not there, and he seems to have an underlying injury newayz. Try and trade sabathia instead.
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goodell is making the rounds
He was on ESPN earlier, now he’s on NFLN with DeMaurice Smith
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DeMaurice Smith
just stated that he sees no problem with the amount with the money that Stafford got. He probably doesn’t think that way and is using it as a bargaining chip, but he just lost a lot of credibility.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New Head of NFLPA
He’s Upshaw’s successor.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The owners are going to push for a rookie wage scale similar to the NBA
the amount of money top 10 picks are getting is insane
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Union
It baffles me that the union is looking out for future players and not their current players. All that money could be going towards guys who have actually done their time in the league.
The union should concede a rookie salary structure in exchange for not having an increased schedule.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rookie Wage Scale
It’s a great idea; like OTD said, model it after the NBA. NBA rookie salaries were getting insane until the rookie scale was instituted. Like the NFLPA, the NBAPA said they wouldn’t do it; eventually they accepted it, because they realized it was for the good of the league as a whole, especially the veteran players.
If I was involved in the negotiations, I’d try to horse-trade that rookie salary cap for a reduction of service time (4 to 3 years) before unrestricted free agency.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, the NFLPA should be in favor of a deal like that
it rewards players who have actually done something in the league. And they can “agree” to it to get a concession from the owners in some other area.
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think the players are more afraid of an 18-game schedule than they are in favor of a shorter route to UFA. I would imagine that a shorter route to UFA would lead to shorter contract lengths anyway, which players would have mixed feelings about – a chance at a third contract, but less job security.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting trade
I think that’d be bad for the league, though. 4 years seems just about right for a player to hit the market at what would be a fair representation of his value (based on performance).
Interesting argument though. I think they should trade the rookie wage scale for bigger payout of retirement benefits.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see 18 regular season games, with 2 preseason games
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The players wouldn't.
And it’s not that simple; no one is playing all-out in pre-season games. An increase in the amount of games would mean an increase in the salaries as well.
There’s also the matter of playoff salaries that players are pissed about. It’s something like $35,000 for a divisional game or something like that. Pretty ridiculous.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want it.
A 16 game season takes enough of a toll on the team. I legit worry about the players… frankly I wish they’d drop two pre-season games and just play 16 + 2.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or
Just cut the price of preseason tickets by 50%. That’d work too.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given that there's no way they will ever do that
I’m in favor of an 18 + 2 schedule. The NFL is the one pro sports league where the schedules are extremely out of balance from team to team. The two extra games could be used to improve that situation. Ideally everyone plays the same schedule. Baseball used to be that way, many years ago. Not possible in the NFL, but a small step towards a more balanced schedule IMO would be beneficial.
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point about the schedules
I’m still not in favor of it, though
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus it waters down the importance of the weekly games.
Albeit by a marginal amount.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which channel is everyone watching?
I prefer NFLN just because Mike Mayock is 10 times better than Kiper and McShay, even if Kiper and McShay hate each other. I do really like Mike Torico though.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NFL Network
I like it much better than ESPN. I’ll flip back and forth once the draft starts, though.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
It’s much better. Plus I really like Rich Eisen. Those “It’s Good To be Rich” commercials were HILARIOUS.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is awesome
Flawlessly streaming in high quality video. I have a 3MB/sec connection, downgraded from a 10MB/sec connection, and it’s cruising along. Shh, don’t tell anybody about it.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The green room
Looks ridiculous. It looks like a wedding reception done on the cheap.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Long
It was Jake Long, right? That declined the green room invite to go fishing? I love that.
What’s stafford even doing there? If I were him I’d already be sipping Johnny Walker Blue and smoking Cubans somewhere.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mario featured on the backdrop
Eli Manning, Matt Ryan, and Adrian Peterson also. AP is the only non #1 overall pick.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
God, Curry is a stud
If he slips out of the top 5, those teams are idiots.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought that too
But then I remembered that Crabtree is maybe 6’1"
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cushing was invited?
Freeman too? Those guys are going to wait a while…
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cushing was invited
Because of NFLN’s draft profile of him. Freeman was invited because they wanted the green room drama, in my opinion.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could you explain more about the profile on him?
He looks like of squishy up there. Man, something about that guy doesn’t sit right with me… I think he’s going to flame out.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
He’s one of three players I’ll set stuff on fire if we draft him…
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cushoid is #1 on my most NOT wanted list
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, Cushoid is a disaster waiting to happen
when he immediately gets injured, it will be another good example why a rookie wage scale is needed
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFLN
is airing reality specials on Cushing, Stafford and Crabtree on Tuesday. They wanted all three of those guys there at the draft for footage purposes.
I hate Cushing BTW, if the Texans draft him someone needs to come to my house to remove all sharp objects.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crap
Denver made a game of it.
I flipped back to my slingbox and it’s a 1pt game.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that
has GOT TO BE THE WORST SERIES. i hate New Orleans. CP3 is so damn overrated it pisses me off. damn ball hog. i know i’m gonna get crap for that, “oh he’s such a good pg, he sets his teammates up” eh no, he’s a ballhog that doesn’t give his teammates a chance to make their own offense, and he’s a stat whore. He’s looky he’s good looking.
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa whoa whoa...
Slow down there cowboy. CP3 is overrated? Look at his assist numbers!
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sick of the draft
The NFLN crew is open about how they are tired of it, it’s pretty funny.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mayock has us with Cushing.
He looks fucking stupid with that Britney Spears mic.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maclin to the Eagles?
Makes no sense, Mayock. They have DeSean Jackson, who does all the fast slot guy/return guy thing already.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess
I bet the Lions take Stafford.
Just a hunch….
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Mayock
projects the Texans to take Cushing. God I hope Kubiak keeps his streak of unpredictability.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade up for Crabtree
You heard it here first.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd wet myself.
It’d be a Madden offense.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defense would stink, but...
…you wouldn’t have a problem getting the team on prime-time TV.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
I’m LOVIN this. I’m Indian, and I realized that the song that ESPN is featuring for the draft is “Oh Saya” from Slumdog Millionaire. This is the closest an Indian has come to the NFL ever. That and me in high school football ;)
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pussycat Dolls
Their version of Jai Ho makes me want to stab someone.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
ur right, but nicole shcerzinger is hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut up Roger.
Seriously. Shut your damn mouth. Tags just did the business. He was a pro.
You’re a suit.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
listen to the boos
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ture
They’re on the same level as everyone that screams “get in the hole!” after EVERY PGA shot, especially Tiger’s
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NY is a zoo
It has to be seen to really be appreciated
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D-bag.
He just looks like a douche.
Love that they’re booing him.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Capitol One Bowl MVP"
As a player at a top-10 college program, that says it all.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His biggest moment?
Holding that keg over his head.
Stafford as a bust. You heard it here for the 156th time.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
man don't hate
Stafford’s sick. he’s buyin his momma a new house. That’s respect. Stafford’s gonna show all haters.
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if only he could buy
some more accuracy
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he lives in highland park
she prolly doeswn’t NEED a new house!
by Triple347 on Apr 25, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
more guaranteed money than the face stomper is getting
way to screw yourself further, Detroit
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that incredible? How did Detroit get jacked that bad?
Could have signed Jason Smith, the player they really need for 12 million less, easily.
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, What Does STL Do?
Gotta be Smith or Monroe. I’m guessing Smith.
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by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If I were GM
I’d take Curry. Why pass on the sure thing when your team could use everything but a safety?
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smith looked to be talking to Spanuolo earlier.
They are probably just waiting to field trade offers before making it official.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stafford's sister is HOT
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
all ten minutes
They’re trying to trade it.
by JMay on Apr 25, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is anybody getting sound from the nfl.com feed?
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ya
mayock’s talkin bout stl. and jason smith right now.
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayock said Spags wanted to play "hard nose football" which is why they'll take Smith.
That’s just lazy reporting, and I understand he’s just filling air time at this point. But the knock on Smith is that he’s too finesse, not much of a bulldog. Andre Smith would be more appropriate for what Mayock is talking about. But I digress… the pick will be J. Smith.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please take Sanchez, STL
it’ll be funny as hell, too
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Easiest nickname ever.
Dirty Sanchez!
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Id of took Sanchez over Stafford…and Im a UGA fan.
by Mike Kerns on Apr 25, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd have done the smart thing
and NOT drafted a skill position
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At #1!?
I wouldn’t take either.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
u know what some team should do?
draft Lebron James….THAT WOULD BE HILARIOUS.
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
w/ the 2nd pick in the 2009 NFL Draft
the St Louis Rams select: DWIGHT HOWARD!
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Running out of time
no takers for the trade
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dunta
According to McClain we’re supposed to expect some sort of Dunta news any minute now (from his draft chat)
by WhiskeyR on Apr 25, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is McLain
actually earning his salary?
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone Got The Exact Comment About Dunta?
I’m dying to know now.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto.
I’m seriously intrigued.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He kept saying something about a story he’ll have on the chron site about dunta by 3:00. It hasn’t shown up yet and i’m getting tired of refreshing the site. when someone asked if they inked a deal he said “i wish”.
by WhiskeyR on Apr 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's the first
omment From RJ]
Hey General – Looking forward to following you thru the draft. Keep us informed will all the scoops! Great job. Thanks.
11:53
John McClain: I’ll try. I’ll have a scoop on Dunta I got from him this morning at his football camp. It should be posted around 3.
by WhiskeyR on Apr 25, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, That's Nothing
I bet it’s just that he’s going to sign the franchise tender and be in training camp.
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by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hypo
Who would you rather punch in the face? Chris Berman or Mel Kiper?
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kiper
because Chris Berman looks like he smells like rotten cabbage, and I wouldn’t want to get that close
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, don't beat the clock, STL
that’ll be even funnier
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate this logic
If Freeman falls to the second round, he’s a “developmental guy”. But if he’s taken in the first round, he’s a franchise QB. rolls eyes
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to Jason Smith
I like the guy, good head on him.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Smith. Good Pick.
Guess they couldnt get the trade they wanted.
by Mike Kerns on Apr 25, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Kiper on drugs?
How is Sanchez a better pick for the Rams? They have stupid money invested in Bulger. And Sanchez is NOT that good. HOW DO I GET THAT JOB, MEL?
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
a passionate night w/ Todd McShay
is one of the job duties, u sure u want it?
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why Im watching on NFL Network…
by Mike Kerns on Apr 25, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aite, let's call it:
who’s the #3 pick??? My guess is Tyson Jackson.
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be
Shocking
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ Raji
is the #3 pick, I don’t think KC makes it, though
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said KC doesn't make the pick, implying that there will be a trade
Word on the street was that KC might trade Dorsey though with them going to a 3-4. Dorsey is a 3-technique IIRC
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reading.
It’s hard, honestly. I just learned.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eugene Monroe
b/c the Chefs are too fucking dumb to take Curry.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Apr 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Que pasa, bitches?
MDC in the heezy fo’ sheezy.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Apr 25, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And With That, You're On Probation
“In the heezy fo’ sheezy?”
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't hate
just because I am hip.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Apr 25, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That line...
Makes Tim look like Eddie Murphy circa “Raw”
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't do no curse show.
Filth flarn filth, motherfucker, dick, pussy, snot, and shit. Good night! Suck my dick!
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Apr 25, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dexter St. Jock
That’s my new name.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Whatcha cryin' 'bout?"
/flops dick over shoulder
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Apr 25, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bout fucking time.
You lazy ass bitch.
“I just like to make an entrance!”
Yeah so does the Queen of England, you poof.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was taking a shower and getting drunk...
at the same time. Bite me.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Apr 25, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunta
I don’t see that in McClain’s chat. Where is it?
by JMay on Apr 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
up in other part of the thread
Said he got a “scoop” from him today at the camp hie and Andre and DeMeco hosted. No real idea what it is, could be nothing.
by WhiskeyR on Apr 25, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he got it from dunta
it’s not a trade. Maybe Dunta’s going to report or sign that one year deal. Not much of a scoop if it is.
by JMay on Apr 25, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayock is wrong
Curry is NOT THE PICK
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
They will take Monroe. But Curry is the correct pick.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Apr 25, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanna see a trade. Just to shake up everyones mock :)
by Mike Kerns on Apr 25, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
it’s boobies day at the bar. BOOBIES!!!!
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah?
Are you putting all those hussies to shame with them tig ole’ man bitties?
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
KC and Tyson Jackson
Wowza. Horrible decision.
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by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If It Wasn't Pioli
I’d be rioting if I was a Chiefs fan.
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by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? I liked Jackson last year and wished he came out then
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like him.
But not at 3 and not for a team changing to the 3-4
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Apr 25, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a perfect 3-4 end.
Wonder what they do with Dorsey and Tamba Hali, though. Dorsey is 6’1" 297, so I don’t see how he fits in. Do they stand Hali up? He’s 275… I’d love to see the Texans grab him.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might be a good 3-4 end...
but as we’ve seen with Weaver (in the reverse direction), going from the 4-3 to the 3-4 is not a given. Why take that chance at 3? Especially with Curry on the board? At worst, Curry would have been their Jamie Sharper.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Apr 25, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To steal a line from that dumb commercial...
I’m there.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Apr 25, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy. Fuck.
For real?
Congratulations Chiefs fans! You are now in a worse boat than Lions fans!
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nah
even if Tyson Jackson sucks, the Chiefs haven’t devoted 41 million to him. They can get other options even if he fails, and this doesn’t really prevent them from drafting good talent as the draft goes on.
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i understand
the philosophy behind the pick. Haley comes from the Cardinals where they had that Dockery? guy. i think he resembles him, that’s why they got him.
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cassel as well.
I think that’s silly money to spend on him. I legit don’t understand what they’re doing…
What do they do with Dorsey now?
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyson Jackson?!?!?
Horrible. Fucking. Pick.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Apr 25, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it.
Preferably would have traded down, though
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, this is like Mario over Reggie!….Wait…
by Mike Kerns on Apr 25, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seahawks...
Should be peeing themselves. Take Curry and laugh all the way to the bank.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's f'n awesome
one more good prospect pushed down the line
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fool, Curry
might make it to #9….trade up?
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy crap, NFL Network PWNS ESPN, it's not even funny
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. I like Gruden joining the crew. Hes been much better than I expected.
by Mike Kerns on Apr 25, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like your thinking
This is the tipping point of the draft. Cleveland is praying that SEA does’t trade
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't be the worst.
Jones is up there in age…. but they need a QB of the future (rnd 2)
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll say it...
First good move of the day. Well second I guess… I like smith.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
KC is…I cant think of anything dumb enough to call them.
by Mike Kerns on Apr 25, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What an ugly fucking draft hat
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the ugly lime green
garish and beautiful
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4.56 40-yd dash
How did I not catch that until now? Holy shit… he’s going to be an animal. DROY.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Pick
Seattle got the surest thing in the draft. At No. 4. Every Seahawks fan should send Pioli a Christmas card.
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by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Buddy o' mine
Is a ‘Hawks fan studying in Hong Kong. He’s beside himself…
…and also possibly on Opium.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess KC is just LSU north. Third straight year of taking LSU guy in the 1st.
by Mike Kerns on Apr 25, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Programming Note
I’m going to open up a new thread as soon as Cincy goes on the clock.
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by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They're Just Using Me
For my bandwidth.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They all love football
shut up about that
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Would it be stupid?
For leveland to take Monroe and make him a RT because Pittsburgh and and Baltimore run a 3-4 and blitz from both sides?
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Why invest that sort of money? Just keep a TE close if you’re gettin’ beat that bad a few times a year.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, It Would Not
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by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
More useful players on the board. We got a pro-bowl RT in round 3.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like this self-refreshing feature.
its baller.
by WhiskeyR on Apr 25, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG plz.
Traded up to FIVE for Sanchez!? Are. You. Serious.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no no
it’s gonna be that TE from Oklahoma
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
it would be such a typical Jets move
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh right, I forgot about him.
Wow, I love that Sanchez is getting off the board. Pushes Raji, et al towards us.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Welcome to NY, Mark Sanchez.
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by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mangini traded with his old team
Surprising
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to find out.
Where were the Jets at?
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GREAT PICK
I LOVE IT Sanchez is a stud.
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez looks like the guy from Entourage
Will probably live like him, too. JEALOUS.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like we will be seeing Sanchez at Reliant in week 1.
by Mike Kerns on Apr 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mark...
Meet Mario.
Welcome to the NFL, MFer.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is really happening.
This draft kicks ass.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now they cheer, you gotta love it
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now for Cinci
Do they take Monroe or Smith?
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Apr 25, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so is anyone ever going to give Clemens a shot?
by Only_A_Lad on Apr 25, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
New Open Thread
Up on the main page. Please move the party there.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is an awesome draft...
because the hottie across from me had her right boobie slip out, and I got to see nipple. NIPPLE!!!!
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pete Carroll
really looks like a moron now. I can’t believe he went off like he did. His QB goes to the team he used to coach. I wonder how many high school QBs saw what Carroll did and questioned whether they want to go there.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The deal
Jets first and second and three players. They must have had this hammered out beforehand.
by socctty on Apr 25, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow that's a lot they're giving up
by goingforthecorner on Apr 25, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
could have been a LOT more
like their first next year and a 5th, along with the picks they gave up this yr
by Triple347 on Apr 25, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
u saw all the Mexican guys
goin crazy at Radio City Hall didn’t u? i luv how ESPN put the camera on ’em right on the Latino guys when Sanchez was picked….hahah
by wiseonekms on Apr 25, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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