Open Thread, Part III: 2009 NFL Draft
by Tim on Apr 25, 2009 4:54 PM CDT
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Where do I start a "what number beer are you on" poll?
right here? 4. Taking it easy.
by WhiskeyR on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
How's this one for you?
I am actually ALLERGIC to bud Light.
by WhiskeyR on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
for having congenitally good taste.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Cushing and steroids
Here’s the deal: virtually every player in the NFL is on roids or HGH or both. It’s a fact… the only thing with Cushing is that it’s virtually out in the open.
If I am Demeco, that boy is getting his head shaved ASAP
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions
I hope that there is
…much rookie hazing of this douchey looking guy.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
wow hold up
Cleveland has MILLIONS of picks, why don’t we trade w/ ’em and get a pass rusher?
I'm asking myself
the same damn question.
Good point. Maybe couldn't hammer it out and the Texans really wanted Cushing?
Couldn’t afford Cushing not making it to them?
Doubt it
Maybe we were just asking for too much compared to TB?
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Tourette's
Unless you have a few gun turrets on the port side of your house.
by Shake on Apr 25, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
for the draft day spelling correction
Ahhhhh
We knew we needed help on D. We knew that Diles and Adibi aren’t ever going to be more than serviceable. We knew that they wanted to trade, and therefore must not have gotten enough in the offers they had.
Almost makes me like the pick.
And beer count = 7.
not exactly in disagreement
but i think adibi can be more than serviceable
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
lol, i'm having a change of heart
i understand the pick. I really do, and the funny thing is, I KNOW he’s going to be good. let’s let it go. He was a SUPER productive guy in college, he was a Pete Carroll staple, and USC linebackers HARDLY bust. U know what, I just got a call from my naive young brother and he was screaming going, “YES WE GOT CUSHING!!!” lol, he watches a lot of college football…I’m on board: GO CUSHING!!! keep the hair big boy!
This is why I hate...
“Manufactured athlete who should test well but isn’t that impressive on film and often looks like a defensive end in a linebacker’s body…Is overrated as a pro prospect but has the talent to start at the next level if he can somehow find a way to stay healthy. "
from nfldraftcountdown
If he gets injured early, I would not mind seeing Smith get canned for this
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll trust smithiak over NFLDC
…but i’m still bitter about not being able to trade down
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but what about...
“Ideal size and bulk…Good athleticism…Adequate speed…Extremely versatile…Reliable tackler…Excellent strength…Tough…Intense and very competitive…Decent pass rusher with a burst to close…Changes directions well…Good range…Able to shed blocks and work through traffic..Good special teamer…Smart…Hard worker…May have upside.”
Sounds like everything you could want.
The steroids thing only bothers me because of the suspensions involved with getting caught. I give the pick a B-.
i think it's more of
Matthews was available and Cushing is kinda banged up. I don’t mind the pick nemore, let’s just jump on board. We really needed help on the edges.
Alcohol Update:
- 1 bottle of wine
- 2 vodka tonics
- 2 bottles of Leffe Blonde
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I prefer the Dubbel
But none to be had here at the store.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd
You are now the second person I’ve rec’d for reasons of beer in this very thread.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Would rather have him than Cushing
OK now I stop bashing BC, but the ponytail has got to go
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I really hope he doesn't pull any of that David Carr shit
like not cutting his hair until we win x amount of games in a row… or something.
We needed the OLB
And I trust Smith and Kubiak to make the right call. They get paid alot more than I do regarding NFL matters.
One last thought
I think I’ve “known” for a while we were going to take a USC LB. It’s was a matter of which one. None of them excite me, and that’s kind of led to a general malaise for the draft this year.
Any of these guys will be an upgrade, but I don’t know how much of a ceiling Cushing or CM3 really have. Plus, we already had a guy who couldn’t cover TEs in Diles. I dunno.
Malaise is the right word. Underwhelming is another good one.
Second round is what I’m waiting for now. I have high hopes for that.
I justify it to myself like this...
Cushing is basically CM3 w/out the fun story and the neato family line. I was ok with CM3.
Cushing is CM3 w/ a gay hair cut.
I’m ok with this.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
i like u
bigfatdrunk, u were the only one who shared the enthusiasm for Orakpo, and the disgust when the Redfucks took him at 2 picks ahead of us. But hey, at the very least, we know what we’re getting w/ Cushing. He’s well coached, he’s big and strong, and he works hard. He won’t get confused and star struck at the NFL level. Let’s give him at least a shot before we slam him down.
Eagles receivers
Maclin, Jackson, and White Lightning. These are all the same kind of receiver. They have the o-line to do it all, though
still a good pick though
although Wells was available, i thought they were going there.
HAHAHA DARRIUS HEYWARD BEY AT 7
hahahah omg, gotta love the draft
just watched the path to the nfl draft
and I’m liking Cushing more and more.
So a few drinks later...
I’m unmoved. That’s really the only emotion I can muster. I felt the same way last year though… and Brown was… um… unmoving I guess. Well he moved a lot against speed rushers… but i’m speaking in emotions.
God I hate the teams I support.
Poor Wonderlic score?
Reading the book about him by Michael Lewis, I didn’t buy that he’d be a #1 overall selection. The guy works really hard but has a learning disability (or did, at the writing of the book). Maybe thats it?
ooohh
Pettigrew and Stafford…nice job Lions.
noteables still on the board:
Oher, Wells, Maualuga, Matthews, VDavis
I love scouting reports
One says that Cushing has “no true position”. Another says that he’s “versatile”. Heh
Eh.
Is that the worst? Would it be so bad to have a LB corp made up of players we can move around? Imagine LBs in flux… DeMeco shifting out a bit, Cushing to the inside… I mean I’ll take flexibility any day of the week.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I'm not banging on Cushing
I am just saying that there are two sides to these scouting reports. One “scout” sees something as a positive (“versatile”), another says he has no true position.
why didn't we trade w/ the cowboys?
they don’t have a 1st round selection, we should’ve traded w/ them so they can select Pat White. and we better pick Dwight Howard in the 2nd round.
Bwhaha
Most anti-climatic first-round pick ever.
My Browns friend just messaged me… he is unamused.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously...
Can you even get upset about taking a center? It’s the milktoast of positions.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Dear TexanPhil
You have some splainin’ to do. Weren’t you saying something about a blockbuster deal?
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Quit wasting valuable smashing time
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on.
Name for me a Smithiak draft bust?
Give him at least a few weeks. Who else would you have rather had? Or trading down for what?
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh we're lynching T-Phil?
Carry on then.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
YEAH!
Plus, I’m like 20 drinks behind you, so there’s bitterness all-around. Though I did get to see girl nipple. NIPPLE!!!!!
I saw nipple...
In that before/after pic of Cushing.
MDC is so pissed he stormed off g-chat like a 12 year old girl in a texting fight.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Pats will be making a move for second rounders
12 picks on that roster? No way they can use them all.
Pete Prisco likes our pick
“Analysis: I love this kid. I have for a long time. Adding him to the front seven is a great move for the Texans. He will be a 10-year starter and a Pro Bowl player in three years.”
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
t-r-a-v-i-s j-o-h-n-s-o-n
Phonetically for you
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
man
Wells and Maualuga are both available…not a SINGLE safety has been taken yet. lol.
maaaan
i don’t even care nemore. Orakpo’s not a Texan, we can get anyone and it wouldn’t make me feel satisfied. aaah but Matthews has yet to be drafted yet maybe that’s a sign that Matthews was never truly highly rated. lol, “I know Bellicheck and Mangini are competitive but this is ridiculous” -Rich Eisen on Browns and Patriots constantly trading their picks.
Good point about Matthews I suppose
But the second round is neat stuff.
hey guys
why was cushing so unexcited to become a Texan? was it just nerves? he looked kinda pissed actually.
he didn't smile
and he was on the phone w/ this weird fake smirk….iono it could be thrown up to nerves.
Trades
Do you think teams tell one another who they are trading up for? Did GB tell NE they wanted Matthews in order to calm NE’s nerves about maybe losing Butler?
God NE is murdering fools on these draft picks
I am so impressed with them. They have FOUR 2nd rounders. They are going to get four really good players on the cheap.
NE has had the draft value thing down pat for years
No big surprise
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
WOW
what the hell did GB do?? traded their entire draft for Matthews? and after watching that tape, I’m kinda glad we didn’t draft Matthews. He was getting pwned. stupid NE trading for all those 2nd rounders.
He was getting pwned.
Call me stupid, but I get wary about guys who didn’t have good prospect grades coming out of high school. Yea, they gave up two threes and a second rounder this year, right?
Colts take RB?
Very interesting… especially with DTs on the board.
Colts haven't taken defense in the first since Freeney
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Hyperbolic statements
Gruden: “Buffalo has the deepest receiver corps I’ve ever seen”
Really? Better than Cincy a few years ago, or Indy two years ago?
Donald Brown
has Matt Forte written all over him. Awesome pick by Bill Polian. The rich get richer. Cushing u better take care of bidness.
I hope their draft office explodes
But maybe thats just me
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
why
wouldn’t u trade this 1st rounder for Chad Johnson, Braylon Edwards or Anquain Boldin? I mean ur gonna take a receiver newayz? I don’t get it. Nicks is cool, but come on, Boldin, Ocho, and Edwards??? the Patriots should trade half of their picks and get Boldin just to piss people off.
???
Johnson is old and is a headache. Edwards drops too many balls and the Browns were asking too much anyway. Plus you’d need to sign him to a new deal. Boldin is going to cost you $10 million a year and may – MAY – have looked a little too good with Larry Fitz on the opposite side.
still
none of those are reasons to miss out on probowl receivers that could lift ur team deep into the playoffs when we’re talking about waiting 3 yrs to see dividends on receivers newayz. (think about James Hardy, Devin Thomas, and Limas Sweed last year) as much as u hate Johnson, he’s still good, same w/ Edwards and Boldin.
Bengals couldn't get a three this year for Johnson
Johnson is about to turn 30. He’s no longer a Pro Bowl receiver. Edwards gets hurt and catches a lower percentage of balls than TO with a messed up finger. Boldin is the only one I think they should have gone after, and he’s not quite what they were looking for.
I would hate it, but...
…I want to see what Matt would do if the Titans took Sean Smith
bfd -
What do you think about us getting Mauauauaualuga or Laurinitis in the second?
I don't see either of them slipping
Plus, they are both more inside guys. I’d rather address the secondary or take a Ron Brace or Michael Johnson if they are there. Personally.
still want Rashad Johnson
But will trust Smithiak’s tastes on safety.
Don’t like Brace or Johnson personally.
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh on Johnson
I know they are inside guys but I don’t think that is a hard and fast rule with linebackers. See: DeMeco Ryans (although he went from outside to inside). Rey would be a good fit at the strongside I think. Laurinitis at weakside? He’s 244…
Fills a need
But I think Arizona has a lot more holes than people realize. They were more of the 9-7 team from a weak division last year than “team that almost won the Super Bowl”.
good thing we're focused on defense
everyone else in the AFC south is picking offense
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
Wait a little bit
…also have Sean Smith, Rashad Johnson, and others.
Really?
I’m thinking they’d have better luck in the “fuck it, you want to be fat and you know it.” market
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
ok
I see where this draft is going. Texans are drafting William Moore. I’m calling it now.
Or Sean Smith
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
McDaniels is a f'n Retard
They just traded they’re first rounder for next year that they got for Cutler for Alphonso Smith when Darrius Butler was still on the board
You know... for kids.
It's okay
He won’t be back after this year anyway
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Gruden
Drinking too? Maybe it’s my drunken dissapointed haze talking, but he seems a little loopy.
You know... for kids.
LMAO!
Bill Cosby adopted the Longhorns?!?! Gotta luv it.
Totally Agree
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Andre Smith + Rey Maualuga?
Dare I say it…is Cincy having one of the best drafts this year?
It's two picks.
But they got two great players who were really undervalued.
I just choked on my chicken
Wait… that didn’t come out right…
I can't believe no one was HAMMERING the Raiders for DHB
It’s unreal. I can’t believe how predictable that old coot is.
Wow, totally true.
Pats just fucked up their pick though. I guess they will still get two picks anyway.
Brown or Sean Smith would be great.
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
Is it me or...
Does nobody else like Sean Smith as much as we do. He’s not even listed on ESPN’s top available safeties, whereas Moore and Johnson are.
Would y’all rather have Smith or one of the two aforementioned safeties?
and LOL at Ron Brace!
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
Not being listed on ESPN is probably a good sign
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
was about to type that.
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
Yup - there he goes.
damn
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
With 4 2nds and 4 3rds
He can’t help but have a great one. And his name isn’t Al to screw it up.
If I were a GM
I would trade my first round every year and hoard 2nd and 3rd rounders.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's take Everette Brown or some shit like that
Is Michael Johnson still around?
Everybody think happy thoughts and drink good beer.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions
Can't believe Malauga fell to the second
This probably means he’ll be the best of the three USC linebackers
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
CUSHING WILL BE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!
it helps if u type in all caps and put in a few exclamation pts
I'm going to drink a Sam Adams
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Well fuck
Let’s take one of those two and get that rb from Liberty in the third. Or maybe Shonnnnn Greene.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate the Pats
but they are absolutely amazing. AMAZING. Every team should be taking notes right now. This is freaking magic. Butler, Chung, and Brace wow…woooow. and i believe they still have 2 more 2nd rounders?
Me too. I <3 that motherfucker.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Kubiak needs to join BRB
so he can know how bad we didn’t want Cushing. lol, but to be fair, he’s been known to prove us wrong.
He's got that going for him
Which is nice.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I want me some Andre Brown in round 3.
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
Isn't it amazing
How homoerotic we get about this stuff?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
After my beer
I will be drunk enough.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
How about DJ Moore?
Or should we pick a safety instead?
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
Oh God, my ESP is kicking in
I see William Moore as our pick… forgive me for the jinx guyz but i see it happening.
I'm going to have a beer
Right now.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions
Not even one
I spent the whole afternoon re-bricking my patio.
Probably a better afternoon than BRB, If I say so myself.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
But I have a Sam Adams Black Lager in my hands now.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
So
The Panthers are going brown?
Haven’t done that since college myself. To each his own, I say.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions
Only 2 picks in front of us
And at least 3 players I would be happy with. The arithmetic is in my favor.
Here's the thing
Even if Cushing is a brick. We will get at least two solid players from the next two rounds.
So fuck that douche.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
would also want
but that’d be a vote against adibi. i doubt it.
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
WHOA WHOA
did u guys hear that? san fran just picked up a 1st rounder from next year so Carolina coudl get Brown!! we need to do something like that!! find a team looking to trade up!!
I want
A big Johnson. As in, Michael Johnson.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Seahawks got DEN 2010 1st rounder also
That could easily be a top-10 pick.
fuck ya
I LOVE Pat white, but come on, that is just stupid. It’s not like they don’t have any other needs, Miami is dumb for that one.
I think so
The Wild cat was less effective every game they utilized it in last year
You know... for kids.
Wildcat has always seemed too gimmicky to me.
But Pat White was the perfect pick if you want to take it to the nth degree.
three second round qb's in a row for miami
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if the hosts have a drinking game.
Mel and Todd McShay trade shots for incorrect picks.
OOHH!
on the NFL network coverage online, look at the side, they got Cushing interview going.
Please do not pick William Moore
OK now that seals it, William Moore is a Texan
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions
I begged them not to take Cushing
at least now I am not begging
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
SEE!!
UR ESP IS KICKING IN TOO ISN’T IT!!! I CALLED IT JUST LETTIN U KNOW!!
I think Johnson would be good here
He would get partial playing time, might motivate him to get through his on-again off-again nature. I’d prefer Sean Smith though.
WHAT?
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
TRADE OUT!!!!
get a 1st rounder next year !! damn Rick Smith is slipping, there were 2 stupid teams willing to trade up out of next year’s 1st round and we didn’t get in on it…ugh
You can't just force a trade to happen.
A team has to (A) want to move up to your spot and (B) be willing to give up something reasonable.
I like it, we need an edge rusher
guess they liked him more than MJ
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions
We just drafted Jason Babin.
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
Interesting.
Like him, like the versatility.
He must’ve been really high on the board though to go with him over S or DT though.
- Rivers McCown
See, why didn't we trade down for this guy?
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
I bet Smith was pissed to see Sintim go off the board.
Question: why pick Michael Johnson when we just signed Antonio?
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
It works for the Giants
Why not?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
good point.
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
Barwin
Since he has played OLB, and measures 6’4" – 256 lbs…….could he be a potential SLB for us? Just hypothesizing here…
Hold on
What position does this guy play?
NFL.com lists him as a TE.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:38 PM CDT reply actions
Ahh
That’s just like a TE. Only different.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmm
he switched to olb last year. he looks like another damn tweener. but he’s at least got more tools than does babin.
lol
I KNEW people were gonna say “Babin.” But he’s good fool, that’s not a bad pick. Cushing and Barwin athletic young linebacker hybrids. not a bad way to draft.
4.47 40 according to wiki.
Pretty impressive, but I don’t like these raw guys. Is he a DE or an OLB? “Elephant” guy?
Sounds like Rosie Colvin
Only younger, and white.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
He seems to much like a specialist
I mean, not a BAD guy to have, but didn’t we just take Cushing? I guess I don’t understand the point. He does give us a good edge rush guy, at worst. But with so many holes???
Haha!
So glad that I am not a raiders fan. Michael Mitchell?
The Dream Shake - Where Brooks > Alston happens.
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Seriously - on the board I'm using from CBS - he's rated as a SIXTH rounder!!!
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Apr 25, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
People thought that about Crazy Legs last year
Of course, we’re talking about the Raiders.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
u know what
we may have a shot at Michael Johnson in the 3rd….
I'd be surprised if we took him there
But if we did, I still might get my pants all sticky. If you know what I mean.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone fill me in
Who did the Tits take in the first?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:41 PM CDT reply actions
But he's all over YouTube!
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No and maybe
But I would like to get Smith. We need something other than another pass rushing DE right now
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we can rule out Michael Johnson
But how about trading some sixth rounders and our third for a spot in the second to grab Sean Smith?
Apparently we, the Texans blogosphere, have over-rated the guy.
We may be the only people who recognize his true value
OD was a 4th rounder, Super Steve & Winston went in the 3rd
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Posted this earlier in response to someone bashing the Aaron Maybin pick but now that we have Barwin
http://thegoodbyeladiesdraftreport.blogspot.com/2009/04/updated-2009-nfl-draft-defensive-end3-4.html
“The model projects Connor Barwin to be the best pass rusher in this draft. His projection is the strongest of any second round pick since 2001, with the exception of Aaron Schobel, who projected to have 49.99 sacks and who in fact had 67 sacks by his seventh year. Barwin has the ninth highest projection of any player in the data set, just edging out Terrell Suggs’. As an added bonus, Barwin is apparently also strong against the run. Connor Barwin was not originally included because ProFootballWeekly projected him as a third round pick. However, Gosselin has put him squarely in the second round, which seems to be more in line with the consensus on Barwin.”
Not that this is any kind of an authoritative source, but it’s a good sign.
- Rivers McCown
I've heard quite a bit about him.
The one problem I have with that study is that the data set on Barwin has got to be incredibly small.
Yes
But just about every statistical study in the NFL Draft suffers from that at this point.
Still nice to be on the good side of it.
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Could be the Owen Daniels or Steve Slaton
of this draft. Or, better yet, the DeMeco Ryans.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure
Smithiak has him projected as a situational pass rusher type at the beginning of his career. The CUshing pick gives it away. Cushing is our SLB, and Barwin is like our DE pass rush rotation guy.
wow, the Raiders REALLY don't want us to take them seriously do they?
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/terminatorsalvation/
almost jizzed in my pants after seeing that.
Let's take a moment to be thankful
that we do not live in the Bay Area and root for the Raiders.
I wish...
they played more of Mel Kiper telling us he’ll see us at Mike Williams’ Hall of Fame introduction.
This reminds me a lot of the ingame threads
This is a blast. It’s great to talk smack with some of the guys from last season as well as the new folks.
Man, that one beer is really getting to me. I love you all, man.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:53 PM CDT reply actions
If we go DE or hybrid with the next pick I will be extremely surprised
if it’s D, should be a safety or CB.
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally
I’m hoping for an RB.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it will be RB or S.
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by HoustonDiehards on Apr 25, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I really thought he was a second round lock months ago
But as of a couple of weeks ago, I thought he’d slide to the third.
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Apr 25, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I think they passsed
but get to pick any time they want to at this point. They can still trade rights to it, I think. Someone fucked up the logistics.
Australia
In late 2006 I went to Australia for work. There was this bar called the “bimbo bar” that we went to. This insanely hot and drunk chick came up to me and started molesting me, basically. I was pretty tempted… but then I realized she had a black eye from a fight. I told her to go away. She ended up breaking a heel and falling on the floor, dropping her wine glass.
The Raiders remind me of that girl.
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