Post-Draft Musings: What Position Is Still The Most Glaring Weakness?
The draft is in the books. There will still be some moves made via free agency, but the fact is that the overwhelming majority of players who will be Houston Texans when the season kicks off against the Jets on September 13th are already on the roster. Knowing that, I ask you this: What position terrifies you the most right now? In other words, what position on the squad still screams the loudest for an upgrade?
Personally, I'd say defensive tackle. Travis Johnson inspires the exact opposite of confidence. Despite a promising rookie campaign, even the most stringent Amobi Okoye supporters should admit that he can't be considered a sure thing. I really like DelJuan Robinson and Tim Bulman as productive rotation guys, but I'm not as bullish on them as starters. I'm still of the mind that Frank Okam could be the answer next to Amobi, but the coaching staff has not exhibited anything resembling that sort of belief. Antonio Smith? Sure, it's nice to envision him moving inside in passing situations on third down. What about first and second downs? Or fourth and inches?
Talk me into feeling better about DT in the Comments below. Or feel free to divert my attention to a more glaring positional need.
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I agree, DT is our worst position…like u said, i also love Bulman and robinson…i like okoye, and i think okam will do good thignsd for us, we do need a good Starting DT tho…Travis Johnson and CODy aint gonna cut it…
i possible idea maybe is to Put Smith at DT and start barwin – just a thought
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on May 12, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Frank Okam
Have the coaches ever given any reason why they aren’t playing him? You’d think any random fat guy off the street would be an upgrade at NT over Travis Johnson.
by cubic on May 12, 2009 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
THey haven't given a reason, but they don't have to
He wasn’t exactly good. He did well in short spurts, but when he was the slightest bit winded, he was terrible. He needs to get better, LOTS better, period. It’s not just a case of him needing a chance. It’s as much on him as anyone else.
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by HoustonDiehards on May 12, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For me, it's SS
I like Barber, but he’s young, and was a seventh-round pick. I’m just afraid the coaches are giving him too much credit.
THen again, they thought the same about Diles, and he turned out pretty well until his injury.
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by HoustonDiehards on May 12, 2009 6:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SS indeed.
I realize you find diamonds in the rough sometimes, but we’re relying on a 7th-rounder, a 5th-rounder, and a washed-up ex-Bronco who never had all that much in the tank to begin with. And for the record, I lost all faith in Harrison during one play in the Green Bay game last year. That guy should never, ever be asked to cover again. Which sucks, because it’d be nice if a 6’2", 230-lb. safety could actually play.
by Nashmeister on May 12, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, speaking of free agents
Texans signed FB Boomer Grigsby.
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by HoustonDiehards on May 12, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tie between safety and defensive tackle.
All our options at both positions inspire little confidence.
- Rivers McCown
by riversmccown on May 12, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll see your DT and raise you a RB
I agree with DT and SS, but the RB situation gives me the vapors. I’m anxious to see what Jeremiah and Foster can do, but we can’t exactly bank on getting anything out of them. Chris Brown is…nevermind..just no. And Ryan Moats? Meh. If Stevie Wonder goes down…then we in some trouble.
by ~Buck on May 12, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So, let me get this straight
We’re starting Travis Johnson at DT and you think our most glaring weakness is at RB?
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 12, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta agree in part though..
If Slaton goes down, what then? If we still have Chris Brown he’ll rupture his labia on the very next play.
I think Slaton getting injured would qualify as terrifying. But until then, RB is not a terrifying position for us (unless you’re the Titans, then you’re scared out of your pink crotch-less booty shorts at it).
by WhiskeyR on May 12, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm holding out hope
that Frank Bush is some kind of defense savant that no one ever gave a chance and that his presence alone will transform TJ et al. Don’t step on my dreams.
by ~Buck on May 12, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't hold your breath
If TJ’s problems were the fault of the system, you at least would have seen FLASHES that he would be good. I’ve seen zero flashes. At least when Amobi struggled, he flashed the occasional bit of “wow.”
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by HoustonDiehards on May 12, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was me trying to be funny
I got no love for TJ, that’s why i added the et al. I feel better about the DT group and SS group as a whole more than the RB group. I don’t feel good about them…but a smidge better.
by ~Buck on May 12, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love for...
I got no love for TJ either, but nothing would make me happier if he did amazing this year and shoved it in all of our faces…then again that is very very wishful thinking
by schillingb on May 13, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe...
But I don’t think it will be Bush or Kollar that gets TJ to be more than he has been. I think it’ll be the fact that it’s contract time, ala Fat Albert in BESF land. I hope we don’t get bamboozled.
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by beefy on May 14, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What terrifies me most is not a position...
its Jacoby. For some reason, as soon as I read “what terrifies you” I thought of Jacoby. But that doesn’t answer the question.
I agree on defensive tackle. I really hope we step it up this year.
I’d like to see more of DelJuan this year.
by WhiskeyR on May 12, 2009 8:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yea
Jacoby reminds me a lot of Mathis for some reason…which is not good considering Mathis played 1-2 games a season before he got a boo boo
by schillingb on May 13, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My first thought was Safety, both SS & FS
As I read the comments, Chris noted his concerns with SS, and I agree that FS is not as big a concern as SS because of Eugene Wilson, but we have no proven depth behind him. Same concern at RB, as Buck noted. Although TJ has been a dog, I like the group of DT’s because of DelJuan, Bulman and (hope, hope) Okam more than the group at either SS, FS or RB.
I am hoping that Glover Quin will work his way into the rotation in passing downs. Kubes said that he will play at CB, but I see him as being potentially better than any of our safeties. His athleticism is intriguing and we have a good recent history with 4th round draft picks.
by oiler-texan diehard on May 12, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Glaring weakness....
well for DEPTH…I’d have to say QB (although I do really like our off-season acquisition) If our man went down, I don’t have the same expectation for a system neophyte that I had for Sage. This season hinges on Schaub. Slaton is a big part, but Schuab is crucial!
for STARTING talent I’d say CB is our position that most concerns me…esp. with “Dunta-Gone-Crazy” playing at Reliant…I am concerned about not having a single lockdown guy even though we will be rushing 45 guys, I still would love to have one lockdown corner on this team. I think we might be lucky we don’t have any elite QB/WR tandems in our division aside from ourselves.
by Smittybaby on May 12, 2009 10:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Elite QB/WR tandems
How is Peyton Manning Reggie Wayne not elite. Heck, Peyton Manning throwing to me would be elite
by keener713 on May 13, 2009 7:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't agree with this enough.
Peyton has been making it rain on us since our team came into the league with Wayne and/or Harrison. That’s definitely and elite tandem.
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by Artest4Prez on May 13, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely agree...
It won’t matter how any other defensive position plays next year, if our corners are as bad as they were last year. dunta’s gotta show he can make it all the way back to where he was, and Reeves or Bennett need to correct their individual issues (though I think Bennett’s was Richard Smith) for us to even have a chance.
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by beefy on May 14, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's hoping the theory that
getting after the QB more than we did last year (shouldn’t be too tough) will not expose our CB’s as much, and they will be markedly improved.
I choose to firmly believe that… until game 1 where its tested.
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by texanphil on May 17, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but...
Tim, I’d like to start off by saying that I agree with everything you said:
1) TJ being on the line is a problem for me, and I hope he gets replaced asap
2) I’m a big Amobi supporter, but who knows when he’ll stop being a ‘project’ and start being the dominant DT he’s capable of being
3) Okam has the tools but where’s the desire?
I still believe that this is not our biggest weakness however, simply because of injury concerns. Personally, I’d rather have just about any other DT on our roster starting in place of TJ (not because of ability necessarily, but because of dumb***, boneheaded plays that result in personal foul flags being thrown). If Amobi produces next season like he did last season, it won’t make any difference if he goes down. While we could definitely use an upgrade, I don’t think that if any one of these players gets hurt next year, that it will have any impact at all on our team’s success.
I know I’m kicking a dead horse, but running back depth is definitely our biggest weakness. If Slaton goes down, we lose a whole dimension of our offense. Sure we could plug in Ryan Moats, who could prove to be a solid backup, but we all know that he is not a home-run threat that Slaton is. He may even average a little over 4 yards / carry, but opposing teams will still not have to worry about one guy breaking a tackle and taking it to the house. I believe that if Slaton gets hurt, opposing defenses will have the confidence to tighten up and focus more on our passing game, which would probably drop us down to the middle of the pack, offensive ability-wise.
I’m not arguing that we should pick another small ‘scat-back’ like Slaton in the draft and hope that he turns out to be half as good as Steve is (to provide more of that home-run threat), but I really do think we should have taken someone that we know we can count on to take pressure off of Slaton, and hopefully reduce his injury risk.
DT will be a top two pick need next year I believe (unless Cody or Okam take a leap forward), but I believe that we need a complimentary running back more than anything if we’re going to be successful (and I don’t think we need one in the first two rounds, just somewhere between round 3 and 5 where there’s still a good chance that a player will contribute earlier).
by Superdave532 on May 13, 2009 4:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Disagree
That the drop-off from Slaton to the RB2 would be severe, and I’m with you about the need for someone to step up to take some of the pressure of Slaton, especially in short yardage situations.
My point kind of ties in to what you said—that if any of the DTs get hurt, it won’t have a huge impact on the success of the team (though I’d love to believe that the absence of Smith and/or Okoye would be felt in a big way, there’s no evidence to suggest it right now). To me, that’s fairly compelling support that DT is currently a wasteland. Any of them could go down, and the group would still be weak.
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by Tim on May 13, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
because if you consider drop off, then QB is a weakness as well as LT. Neither of which I consider weaknesses on our team.
Our top dogs at DT are the problem, not the threat of injury. That is a true weakness.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on May 17, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to say Tight End
Gotcha! Just kidding. I’d say running back because I still haven’t seen a guy who can take on one guy on in the middle of the line and win that physical battle for short yardage. I have no faith in Chris Johnson and the undrafted free agents are undrafted free agents. Moreso than defense, I believe success on short yardage and scoring touchdowns in the redzone are the two major keys to the Texans’ success this coming season.
It’s interesting that some people make the 7th and 5th draft round selection argument against the strong safeties. You certainly can’t make that argument against the defensive tackles. But both give cause for concern. I don’t think additional coaching improves Travis Johnson. Okoye, with a new coach and new strength coach, may succeed. Chances are the Texans will likely be addressing one of these two positions in the first round of next year’s draft.
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by TexanKurt on May 13, 2009 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant Chris Brown
Not Chris Johnson
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by TexanKurt on May 13, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
next years draft.
Eric Berry. I hope we’re not in a position to pick him.
But I hope we somehow end up with the dude.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on May 17, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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