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Is Your Seat Getting Warm Gary Kubiak?

Now that the 2009 NFL Draft is officially in the books, NFL connoisseurs’ speculation has switched from predictions of the draft to those of the upcoming season.  Although final rosters won’t be determined for months, people feel that they can predict how teams will perform in 2009 based off of choices that were made or not made during the draft.  In the eyes of hometown fans, their team is almost always good enough at this point in the season to be a playoff or even Super Bowl contender because false hope is better than no hope.

In the case of the Texans though, it’s not just Houston fans that are predicting a playoff birth at this current juncture.  After a solid draft, the Texans are a trendy pick to contend for a wild card spot or even the AFC South title.  And why wouldn’t they be?  After two 8-8 seasons, the Texans are the epitome of the phrase, “On the verge”.  Even Texans owner Bob McNair, who usually keeps a low profile with the media, recently stated that he would be disappointed if the Texans don’t make the playoffs this year.  While it seems like any NFL owner would obviously be disappointed every year that their franchise doesn’t make the postseason, the fact that McNair felt inclined to say it publicly is as close to being a prediction as possible despite the fact that McNair explicitly stated that he wasn’t making one.

With these extra expectations comes added pressure.  This pressure has displayed itself the most in the assertion that if the Texans miss the playoffs again this year that fourth year head coach Gary Kubiak will lose his job.  From now until the beginning of the 2009 season, whenever you hear Kubiak’s name in the national media you will almost certainly hear the phrase “hot seat” along with it.  Naturally our first reaction as Houston fans is to think that this notion is ridiculous because we have an inclination to be loyal, but I think we owe it to ourselves to think about whether the Texans would be better off without Kubiak after yet another absence of a winning season this year.

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Gary Kubiak became the second head coach in the brief history of the Houston Texans after he took over control of the team before the 2006 season.  Kubiak inherited a team that had managed to win only two games the year before after similar playoff expectations proved to woefully unrealistic.  There were some solid players on the Texans roster, but besides Andre Johnson and Dunta Robinson the team lacked elite performers.  Kubiak quickly remedied that problem by finding future cornerstones Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans, Eric Winston and Owen Daniels in his first draft.  After this marquee draft class, Kubiak and his chosen general manager Rick Smith added several key players the next two years such as Steve Slaton, Amobi Okoye, Fred Bennet, Zac Diles and Xavier Adibi.

Despite the success of Kubiak’s philosophy of building the team through the draft, the first ever winning season has still evaded the grasp of the youngest NFL franchise.  One obvious reason may be the lack of premier free agency success.  Several veteran running backs were brought in to fit Kubaik’s newly instated zone blocking/running scheme, but ball carriers Ahman Green, Chris Brown and Ron Dayne were repeatedly too injured to provide a positive impact.  Defensive end Anthony Weaver was signed in 2006 to be a rushing partner for Mario Williams, but was incredibly unproductive recording only one sack in three seasons with Houston.

Although not a technically a free agent, quarterback Matt Schaub is still doing his best to quiet naysayers.  In 2007 Kubiak determined that David Carr was not the signal caller of the future so he and Rick Smith made a deal with Atlanta to send two second round draft picks in return for their promising backup quarterback, Schaub.  Despite playing well, many believe that the jury is still out on Schaub because of his inability to remain healthy over a 16 game season.  Schaub has also shown carelessness with the ball at times as evidenced by his 19 interceptions and 17 fumbles in the last two years, as opposed to 26 touchdowns.

The true Achilles Heel of the Texans has been something that Kubiak never had to deal with before his ascension to head coaching status; the defense.  As a career offensive player and coach, Kubiak has had to learn on the job how to develop a defensive roster and coaching staff, and there have been growing pains.  Kubiak hired Richard Smith as defensive coordinator in 2006, but only lasted three seasons when he was fired after the defensive squad finished 23rd in the league in 2008.  Head defensive assistant and linebackers coach Frank Bush was promoted to defensive coordinator and has promised an attacking, pass rush centric defense which sharply contrasts Smith’s read and react style of defense.

All of these reasons are cause for concern and seem to be fuel for the fire that warms the hot seat, but it’s important to look at the recent accomplishments of the Texans for the purpose of discerning whether progress is being made.  In 2008, Hurricane Ike prohibited the Texans from playing their first home game until October, and that phenomenon coupled with a tough opening schedule and poor fourth quarter play kept the Texans winless through their first four games.  Despite this setback, the Texans finished the rest of the season with an 8-4 record including a 5-1 run in the last six games.

Even though the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde act was not ideal, it was heartening for Texans fans to see the team play so well in the end season.  Even more encouraging is that the defense started to play a lot better during the last six games.  The Texans gave up an embarrassing 28.7 points per game in the first ten games, but were able to reduce that number to 17.83 points per game in the home stretch.  Also, the Texans averaged over one less turnover per game in the last six games (1.33) than they did in the first ten (2.4). 

All these stats are great, but how realistically enthused should fans be about performing well against teams with a combined record of 42-54?  While it is encouraging to see a team playing to its potential, six games shouldn’t be used to judge Kubiak’s performance, but neither should a single season.  To judge a head coach, different owners have different timetables.  Bob McNair decided to end the tenure of Dom Capers, the first head coach he hired, after four seasons which would suggest that there is justification to the ominous hot seat talk, but upon further inspection, that might not be fair.

In 2005, the first year that the Texans had reasonable playoff aspirations based on improving win totals every season prior, the wheels came off.  After winning seven games in 2004, the Texans managed to win only two which qualified for the worst record in the league and the first pick in the subsequent draft.  Capers probably wasn’t on the chopping block until that fall from grace.

So that brings us to Kubiak and the question of whether he is truly on the hot seat… Maybe.  To say that there is no way that Kubiak is in danger of losing his job would be setting him and those of you that like him up for the same fall that Capers took.  Any win total less than 6 would have to have pretty good rationale to excuse Kubiak for such a poor performance. 

On the flip side of that coin though, to say that he is gone if he doesn’t make the playoffs is asinine.  The Texans play in what has been the consistently toughest division in football over the last four or five years which may be getting a little softer but still has one of the best quarterbacks of all time and a defensive line coach who would be a shoe in if position coaches could be inducted into the hall of fame.  Also, there has been at least one team in the AFC for the last three years that has won at least ten games and still missed the playoffs.  Does anyone in their right mind think that the first ever winning record would be the impetus to fire the franchise’s most successful coach it’s ever had?  Keep in mind that Kubiak has a 22-26 record as a head coach after inheriting what technically was the worst team in football at the time.  That’s only 4 games below .500.

Speaking of .500, Even another season with that winning percentage, although amazingly frustrating, would not cause me to call for Kubiak’s head.  Why?  Because stability is the backbone of successful franchises.  I agree that there comes a time when you have to cut the cord with a coach that simply cannot take you to the promised land, but unless we promoted a coach from within, the system would be completely overhauled and we would find ourselves in the same situation we had when Kubiak took over; the wrong players to fit that new system.  With that development, we would be waiting for at least two to three more years until we could actually have fun watching postseason football.

I’m not trying to make excuses for a coach I like; I’m simply trying to let cooler heads prevail, especially until there is a reason not to.  Hopefully this is a completely irrelevant argument because the Texans do end up making the playoffs.  I personally will be going into the season with the mindset that as long as the team doesn’t implode, I hope to see Kubaik’s rockabilly haircut on the sideline in 2010.  Hopefully Bob McNair, the Texans players, and the majority of you feel the same way.

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Your re-writing history there bit, my friend

Gary Kubiak did not draft Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans, or Owen Daniels in 2006. That was the work of Charlie Casserly. Casserly’s last draft before leaving the Texans was the 2006 one, and he took a ton of heat for it. The NFL exposing the frauds that are Vince Young and Reggie Bush has vindicated Casserly some.

Casserly also drafted Andre Johnson.

The one big deal Kubiak has had a hand in is the chucking of David Carr and the trade for Matt Schaub. However, those moves have done little to help Houston get in the playoffs. Also, the 2007 and 2008 drafts (run by Rick Smith and Kubiak) have done little to help Houston. Amobi Okoye needs to have a breakout year in 2009, or he will be labeled a bust. First round selected DTs need to start producing by years 3. Otherwise, they’re garbage. Duane Brown was a reach last year, and this year the Texans continue to NOT ADDRESS THEIR CRAPPY O-LINE in the first two rounds of the draft. In fact, in the entire draft, they only took one offensive lineman (a guard).

While guys like Steve Slaton were good next day picks, the fact the Houston still has not addressed their o-line is a major reason why this team continues to hover at or below .500. They play in a division with Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis for God’s sake. How can they not find guys to protect their QBs?

I agree with the sentiment that this is a make or break year for Kubiak. It’s playoffs or he’s fired. The same for Rick Smith. The Texans have a lot of talent at several skill positions, but most of that talent was drafted and brought in by Charlie Casserly, not Kubiak.

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by Brad Wells on May 5, 2009 8:30 AM CDT reply actions  

You're familiar enough with that history to know he's rewriting it?

Look, no one besides Charley Casserly and Gary Kubiak know exactly what went down that draft day. When it happened, all of the reports said that Casserly wasn’t responsible for the first pick. Looking back in hindsight, some people say that Casserly was the one that turned the Texans on to Mario Williams in the first place. Others say that Kubiak was the one that decided that Reggie Bush wasn’t going to make as much of a difference on offense as Mario Williams would on D.

Yes, Charley Casserly drafted Andre Johnson and Dunta Robinson. He also drafted David Carr, Travis Johnson, Jason Babin and traded away several draft picks for Philip Buchananon. In addition, he did a horrible job of drafting. The only players remaining from those first years when Casserley was the GM are Chester Pitts (part of that “horrible offensive line”), Travis Johnson, Andre Johnson and Dunta Robinson.

I’m sorry, what kind of a big deal do you want Kubiak to be a part of? Should we swap offensive lines with the Patriots? Is that the kind of big deal you’re looking for? Maybe we should swap secondaries with the Steelers? Or Defensive Linemen with the Titans?

The Texans O-Line is not crappy. They were crappy in 2002. Since then they’ve done nothing but improve. Duane Brown was a rookie Left Tackle last year. Were you expecting him to play like Orlando Pace did after 10 years in the league? Chester Pitts is a solid Left Guard. Chris Meyer is undersized and underpowerd, but has the lateral quickness that a lineman in the zone scheme needs. Mike Brisiel is also more suited for quality depth than being a starter, but Eric Winston is one of the better Right Tackles in the league.

Antoine Caldwell (the guard we drafted in the third round) is actually a center, with the ability to play either guard position.

by Tailgate Andy on May 5, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ok

There’s no arguing or debating this. “Reports” can say whatever they want. In April 2006, Charlie Casserly was still the head of football ops in Houston. That means he had final say on the draft. That means he gets credit (good or bad) for the 2006 draft.

Now, I’m not saying Casserly was some great GM or anything, but the fact is the best players on your team right now (Ryans, Williams, Johnson, Daniels, etc.) were drafted by Casserly.

And yes, your team’s o-line is crappy. Your o-line surrendered 32 sacks last year and, as a result, you couldn’t keep Matt Schaub healthy. He took 23 of those sacks, not counting all the times he got hit. If you can’t keep your QB upright in the AFC South, you are basically conceding the division. If the Texans cut that sack total in half next year, they will be a playoff team.

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by Brad Wells on May 5, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Schaub got hurt on a Jared Allen cheap shot

while the o-line is supposed to protect the qb, its not the o-lines fault Jared Allen likes to cheap shot qb’s.

Casserly did make those picks, but it was still in the Kubiak era, therefore kubiak gets some credit too. Casserly wouldnt draft players the new coach didnt want.

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by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

What are you smoking!

If you really believe that a lame duck GM about to be fired actually called the shots in the 2006, ecspecially when you have the first pick in the draft, you are really high. They let Casserly take the heat on the Mario pick because he was out the door. And to say the o-line is garbage shows how much you really don’t know about our team. In the first year in our new running system our running back set a franchise record for rushing yards in a season. The only thing Freeney and Mathis are good for is rushing the passer, how’d they do stopping our running game.

by John S on May 5, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

32 sacks allowed in 2008

32 sacks allowed is terrible, new system or not. For comparison, Tennessee surrendered only 12 sacks last year and Indy only 14. Their combined records were 25-7.

And yes, Casserly drafted Williams, Ryans, and the others in 2006. You may disagree, but you don’t offer anything to back up your disagreement.

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by Brad Wells on May 5, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

32 sacks is a circumstantial stat.

U compared Tennesse’s oline to ours, saying we surrendered 32 vs 12. However, the Titans qb’s also threw the ball for a total of 451(Young + Collins) times vs the Texans 554 times (Sage + Schaub) That is a difference of 103 pass attempts, a new blocking scheme, 3 new starters on the line including a rookie left tackle, and a rookie rb to pick up blitz coverages. Whereas the Titans were returning all of their vets on the line and putting in a short yardage qb + a “run first” philosophy. I’m not saying we have Jeff Saturdays and Orlando Paces on our line, but it’s nowhere near as bad as you say. If ur argument is to say, “Texans need to generally protect the ball better, turnover the ball less, and protect the QB’s blindside” I’m with you, but if ur going to use the “sack stat” to determine the quality of our O-line, u must be smoking. Texans do plenty of shotgun, PA, bootleg things that expose Schaub and require receivers to get open deep or down the middle of the field, if Schaub misses that read or AJ is covered for even 1 second, he gets took. Risky it may be, but it’s also the big reason why our offense was much improved from previous years. btw, how’d u like the pick of donald brown? says alot about ur running game doesn’t it?

by wiseonekms on May 6, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

If our O-line sucked sooooo bad

Then how could we have had one of the best offenses in the NFL last year in yardage gained?

How could a Rookie running back get over 1200 yards?

It doesn’t compute there blu shoe.

By the way, your team was one helicoptor play away from being .500 against our “crappy” O- Line.

It takes a big man to walk away, but a bigger man to break his freaking jaw!

by USMC_Texas on May 6, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really hope we blow the colts out twice

after reading posts like this.

Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.

by texanphil on May 5, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with my post

I’m just stating the facts, man.

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by Brad Wells on May 5, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

QB shares in the responsibility for sacks

Of the 32 sacks how many were blind side hits in a 3-5 step drop. Schaub and Rosy are also known for indecision and holding the ball way too long. You quote the colts who have one of the best pocket awareness QBs ever to play and the titans who have an underrated veteran and run the ball 75% of the time.

by sammocyr on May 5, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

No such thing as brute facts, my friend. A “fact” is no “fact” until it has been interpreted. You certainly have offered your perspective on things, but that doesn’t make it any fact any more than my own “facts”, which is also my interpretation of the same information.

by Triple347 on May 6, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

nothing factual

well, you managed to throw some statistical “facts” (32 sacks allowed) in your seething, inflammatory post.

The majority is flame-bait, and you should avoid flaming other fan blogs. Nothing good comes out of it, and it makes you appear bitter and desperate.

Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.

by texanphil on May 6, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

You gave a fact surrounded by a buch of BS

It takes a big man to walk away, but a bigger man to break his freaking jaw!

by USMC_Texas on May 6, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

Nice write-up. The underlying theme is that we’ve gotten better each year. To me, that says Kubiak is doing a good job.

The fact that we can even talk about a playoff possibility without sounding ridiculous is a testament to the job Kubiak has done.

Besides, who would you hire?

by WhiskeyR on May 5, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions  

At the moment,

No one. And I wouldn’t give Shanahan a shot – he would want to be GM overlord as well. No thanks.

by Riott on May 5, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shanahan would be an awesome pickup

That way we could keep Kyle Shanahan and Alex Gibbs. And Shanahan as GM…not bad considering he is a pretty damn good drafter….

by wiseonekms on May 6, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

You know... for kids.

by Jake on May 6, 2009 5:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

we’ll let mario become in charge of drafting defensive players.

by wiseonekms on May 9, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

First time commentor

Nice write up, and generally I agree with most of what you’ve said regarding the state of the team and how Kubiak/Smith have improved things since taking over.

As far as Kubiak being in the “hot seat”? If I was to base it on any one thing for the up-and-coming season, it wouldn’t be so much whether we make the playoffs, but rather how we do in our division – or more importantly against the Colts.

’06 – 3-3 (div); 1-1 (Colts)
’07 – 1-5 (div); 0-2 (Colts)
’08 – 2-4 (div); 0-2 (Colts)

Kubiak needs to show this season that he can win against the Colts to give the team any chance of making the playoffs.
If he’s able to do that (and I’m sure we all hope he is) then I think his position is safe.
If we miss out on the playoffs again due to a poor record in our division, then I think he may be in a difficult position – especially as this is much more his team now than one he inherited.

"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." - Mark Twain

by Schuey19 on May 5, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Welcome Shuey

Hope to see you here more often.

Your points are very true, especially the one about how this is more Kubiak’s team than the one he inherited, I’ll probably use that in the future.

You know... for kids.

by Jake on May 5, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the welcome

And feel free to “borrow” all you like lol.

"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." - Mark Twain

by Schuey19 on May 5, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

QB

get rid of the qb.

DMUNOZ

by dmunozimatxan on May 5, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Rec'd

I still can’t believe people think we need a new QB… damn Rosenfels fans!

Every time someone says something about needing a new QB, I remember the Miami game. Fans booed Shaub as he TOOK the field, because of earlier interceptions. He later came back and led one of the most incredible drives I’ve ever seen to score the winning touchdown himself, on a Quarterback draw.

He showed real leadership in that game – and for the rest of the season. He did a fine job and I support him 100%.

Also, he sure did contribute to Andre Johnson’s incredible season.

Starting to wonder if people suggest we need a new QB just to get a rise out of people.

I support The Schaub.

by WhiskeyR on May 5, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

turnovers lose games

yall seem to know all the numbers so how many turnovers were by schaub. fumbles and int’s. plus i will jump for joy if he can finish a season. hope he doesnt get a cold. i work construction and flu or cold, fever, vomiting and just feeling like shit, i gotta work. i guess thats what gets me about him. he always gets hurt.

DMUNOZ

by dmunozimatxan on May 5, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

He doesn’t. And he did finish the season.

by WhiskeyR on May 5, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you want to go by who throws the least interceptions

take Seneca Wallace, he only threw 3. But straight INT’s and fumbles aren’t the whole story.

You are right, turnovers are game killers. Being healthy is also a skill, and some people are better at it than others. However, I went and calculated Attempts per INT, much more telling stat than straight INT’s, and of starting QBs, Schaub had a better ratio than Brees, Cutler, Roethlisberger, Favre, Romo, Frerotte, Bulger, Delhomme, Thigpen, Flacco, Edwards, Orlovsky, Anderson, and Hill.

An observation about most of the QB’s who had better ratios? Disregarding the two Hall of Fame QBs (Kurt Warner and Peyton Manning), the teams with better either had a good running game, good defense, or an above average Oline. When you have a good defense, you aren’t playing catch up and forcing throws, like we had to do many time this year. When you have a good running game, you have a lot less third and longs to force throws, when the opposing D is sending the house and corners are waiting to jump routes. When you are above average, you can progress through reads and find that check down guy rather than force the throw.

There is a lot more to INT’s then looking at who has more and saying they suck. The same with fumbles. As soon as I can find number of QB hits, I’ll go more about it.

Injuries. I don’t mean to be degrading at all, but there is a very serious difference of having your knee dove into and being sick, as there is a huge difference between quarterbacking a professional football team and doing construction. Matt Schaub is not Ahman Green or Chris Brown; he doesn’t seemingly get injured doing just about nothing. Either 330lb Albert Haynesworth body slams on top of you (which would kill you or me, not just put us out of a couple games), or Jared Allen dives into his knee. Knees are fragile. Playing through knee injuries isn’t like working through the flu – your knee literally can’t support you. Remember Booby Miles from Friday Night Lights? Matt Schaub has been injured through deliberate cheap shots or from hits that would kill the average human. He is not injury prone.

It all comes down to Matt Schaub is a good QB. As much as we like Denver, we aren’t them; we won’t get rid of a franchise QB for a scrub from the Bears.

by Riott on May 6, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we found our next coach...

Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.

by texanphil on May 5, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great read....

thanx for the great story….i think kubiak has one last season in him, if he fails to improve, then i think he’s gone. i think the texans will finish above .500. but i still think they won’t finish above 9 wins this year. that’s my prediction for the season….9 wins

by turnip73 on May 5, 2009 12:10 PM CDT reply actions  

i couldn't feel more differently than BigblueShoe

I’m very happy with the Texan’s turnaround and attribute it ultimately to Kubiac’s presence & leadership. I see growth & imporvement in every area and feel like the organization is absolutely on the right track towards long-term competitivness. We will still have setbacks. b/c after all, sound decision-making doesn’t guaranty positive results, but they typically catch up to you in the long run…and that is what I think we are just starting to see happen for the Texans nowadays. The playoffs can be elusive so they are a silly be-all-end-all benchmark of progress for this season…9-6 would be our first winning record…10-6 would make Kubiac a .500 coach (a remarkable feat from the hand he was dealt) and anything beyond that would be beautiful…Go Texans!!

by Smittybaby on May 5, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

leadership

look at the last 11 games of the season for leadership.

Look at the last drive against Miami for leadership. (Schaub had a little to do with that also)

He instilled a never quit attitude in this team, and he did it in year 3. Two years after inheriting a 2-14 team that quit on most games.

Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.

by texanphil on May 5, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Totally agree

I think since Kubiak/Smith have come to the Texans the oganisation as a whole has become a lot more professional.

I think the playoffs will always be a difficult target based purely on the division we’re in – even 10-6 may only be good enough for a wildcard spot (maybe) – but I’ve been a fan for the past 5 years (I’m from England, so sue me lol) and think the team is being run so much better now than 5 years ago that it is practically unrecognisable .

With the additions made in the draft this year (practically all of which I love), I think we’re probably just a shut-down CB away from being a real force in the AFC South – which would instantly make us SB contenders.

"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." - Mark Twain

by Schuey19 on May 5, 2009 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Although making the playoffs is THE goal for the season............

I agree with you TT that the criterion for whether or not to extend Kubiak’s tenure is not securing a playoff berth. Barring a horrific string of injuries, however, whether or not Kubiak stays has to be closely tied to the Texans win total this season. There are so many factors that, at this juncture, it is impossible (or should I say asinine) to establish exactly how many wins will be required to keep McNair happy (enough to invite Kubes back). If we stay healthy and backslide below 8-8, then McNair and many of the fans would not be satisfied; count me among them. Would 7-9 be bad enough to fire Kubiak? Probably not. 6-10, yeah if poor coaching decisions could be linked to 1 or more of the losses. 5-11, yes it would be hard to justify extending him.

Enough negative talk. I really think that a winning season is realistic and 10-6 is doable. 10-6 does not guarantee the playoffs, ask Belichcik about that, but it should get Kubiak a nice extension.

by oiler-texan diehard on May 5, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Hot seat

I think Kubs will be in the Hot seat for anything under 500 but I think the SB should be the goal not just the playoffs. They have a HUGE amount of talent. If the draft actually help in the possitions the way I think it did. The the SB is a real option. Texans should have been 9-7 last year except Rosenf-up absolutely killed the Texans singlehandedly. History shows if all you are trying to do make the Playoffs all you do is make the playoffs. If you are trying to win the SB then you have a chance of doing something.

by Texans-Brocos on May 5, 2009 11:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Blazing

I hope it’s an inferno by seasons end.

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