Reading Between The Lines: BigBlueShoe
On the morning of May 5th, I wrote a post concerning the popular notion that Texans head coach Gary Kubiak should be fired if the team doesn’t make the playoffs this coming season. BigBlueShoe, who writes for the Colts Blog Stampede Blue, posted a long comment in response to my argument.
BigBlueShoe didn’t say anything offending or rude; he merely stated what many people outside of our fan base think. I really like when fans with differing opinions state those views on BRB because it keeps the conversation from getting stagnant and one-dimensional. It just so happens that I disagree with some of the things that BBS stated, so I decided to continue the debate that he started.
(Authors Note: I think that BigBlueShoe is a great writer who commonly produces great work at Stampede Blue. If some of my responses seem caddy or confrontational, it’s not intentional. I was just trying to keep the debate going, and we welcome BBS back here any time he feels like it.)
Gary Kubiak did not draft Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans, or Owen Daniels in 2006. That was the work of Charlie Casserly. Casserly’s last draft before leaving the Texans was the 2006 one, and he took a ton of heat for it. The NFL exposing the frauds that are Vince Young and Reggie Bush has vindicated Casserly some.
Ok, I’m, officially sick of this debate. In their first four years of existence, which happened to be Casserly’s four years as general manager, the Texans were atrocious in the draft. Let me extrapolate--what do David Carr, Jabar Gaffney, Chester Pitts, Andre Johnson, Bennie Joppru, Dunta Robinson, Jasin Babin and Travis Johnson all have in common? They were first or second round picks in 2002 through 2005. I only included those two rounds because they are considered the easiest to produce quality starters in the NFL. I count three quality picks--Pitts, Robinson and Johnson. Robinson and Pitts have had better than average careers to this point, and I’ll get to Johnson in a second.
Granted, we’ll probably never know for sure how much of the 2006 draft decisions can be attributed to either Kubiak or Casserly. Having said that though, you really believe that the same man that set the aforementioned precedent of awfulness suddenly produced one of the best draft classes in the last ten years without any influence from the new head coach who probably knew that Casserly was heading out the door?
Casserly also drafted Andre Johnson.
This is true, but how much of a genius do you have to be to pull the trigger on a 230 pound wide receiver that runs a 4.32 40 yard dash and has a vertical of 41 inches? This is not vindication of Casserly’s draft savvy, it’s just proof that he’s one step above Detroit, who selected Charles Rogers instead.
The one big deal Kubiak has had a hand in is thechucking of David Carr and th trade for Matt Schaub. However, those moves have done little to help Houston to get into the playoffs
Ok. Schaub has had two years as a starter. He’s had problems with turnovers and staying healthy, but the Texans have had much better problems than the third best yardage offense in the NFL last year. Let’s calm down with saying that because Schaub hasn’t taken an expansion team to the playoffs in two years that he wasn’t worth it.
Also, the 2007 and 2008 drafts (run by Rick Smith and Kubiak) have done little to help Houston. Amobi Okoye needs to have a breakout year in 2009, or he will be labled a bust. First round selected DTs need to start producng by years 3. Otherwise, they're garbage.
Whoa. First of all, Fred Bennett was amazing his rookie year, Zach Diles and Xavier Adibi both played extremely well in the LB corps, Slaton was a steal in the third as shown by his play, and Dominique Barber was a rare starter found in the fifth.
Secondly, I’ll be the first to admit that Amobi regressed last year, and he does need to have a good year in order for the Texans’ defense to progress. Here’s the problem with the "bust" label; Amobi had 5.5 sacks in 2007, which was more than all other DTs in the league besides six. 2007 was his rookie year by the way, and he was 20 years old. Yes, he regressed in 2008, but after the potential he showed his rookie year, the bust label is a little harsh for a player who will be 22 years old in the beginning of the 2009 season.
Duane Brown was a reach last year, and this year the Texans continue to NOT ADDRESS THEIR CRAPPY O-LINE in the first two rounds of the draft. In fact, in the entire draft, they only took one offesive lineman (a guard).
Ok, it depends on how you judge a line. If you’re assessing a line’s performance by sacks allowed, you got me. The Texans gave up 32 sacks, which was 14th among teams in the league. Indianapolis was much better with 14 sacks. If you’re talking about rushing yards though, that’s a different story. The Texans were 13th in the league running the ball with 115.4 yards rushing per game, as opposed to the Colts’ 79.6, which was worse than every other team in the league besides one. That probably accounted for the Colts’ 3.4 yards per rush, as opposed to the Texans’ 4.3.
While guys like Steve Slaton were good next day picks, the fact the Houston still has not addressed their o-line is a major reason why this team continues to hover at or below .500. They play in a division with Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis for God’s sake. How can they not find guys to protect their QBs?
Kubiak and Smith have shown an amazing ability to pick up quality players on day two of the draft, and this year is no different. The Texans drafted TE Anthony Hill, who is considered the best blocking TE in the draft, and Antoine Caldwell, who can play both Guard and Center. Coincidentally, Freeney and Mathis are great DEs, but they aren’t the best in the division. That guy plays in a Steel Blue jersey with the name Williams on the back.
I agree with the sentiment that this is a make or break year for Kubiak. It’s playoffs or he’s fired. The same for Rick Smith. The Texans have a lot of talent at several skill positions, but most of that talent was drafted and brought in by Charlie Casserly, not Kubiak.
I was actually trying to say that Kubiak shouldn’t be fired unless the team implodes. As for the notion that Casserly brought in all of our talent, the only current starters that he drafted or signed without the input of Kubiak (which was the original point of the post) are Andre Johnson, Chester Pitts, Travis Johnson and Dunta Robinson.
In another comment responding to the original post, BBS stated the following:
32 sacks allowed is terrible, new system or not. For comparison, Tennessee surrendered only 12 sacks last year and Indy only 14. Their combined records were 25-7.
I covered this partially above, but I thought I would add something. Among the 18 teams that gave up more sacks than us were Baltimore (33), Pittsburgh (49), New England (48) and Minnesota (43). Their combined record was 46-18.
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Sacks as indicator of O-line success
Nice points about sacks but I’ll also include that the titans also had a lower number of pass attempts last season. 28 attempts per game to our 35. Also Indy has a QB with great pocket awareness also reducing the number of sacks. It’s not just the O-line
by sammocyr on May 5, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a year for the Texans to make the playoffs....
Here is my reasoning…. Titans will regress without having Haynesworth and they have Kerry Collins at QB, while he is decent if their defense doesn’t play the same way all year then they will be a worse team… Secondly the Colts, while still having Peyton Manning, don’t have a defense that can shut down many teams…. If the Texans can play above .500 in their division they can win it
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 5, 2009 9:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sacks
Ok, it depends on how you judge a line. If you’re assessing a line’s performance by sacks allowed, you got me. The Texans gave up 32 sacks, which was 14th among teams in the league. Indianapolis was much better with 14 sacks.
Ah, but now you’re saying the sack is completely the offensive linemans responsibility, when it quite clearly is not. I’m sure everyone noticed when, behind basically the same line that David Carr had, Schaub got sacked much much less in his first year.
I’ve been a Football Outsiders game charter the past two seasons, and Peyton Manning was hurried more times by the Texans in one of the halves I did then I saw anyone else hurried all season. The difference is just that Manning has much much better pocket awareness than Schaub does. I’d call the Colts line and the Texans line pretty similar units in pass protection right now.
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by riversmccown on May 5, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well
about 2007 and 2008 draft – With many teams, other fans dont really know about those samll role players (AKA Adibi, Diles, Barber) bcz. they see them once or twice or never…us houston fans analyze them adn we know them and we know they are good (BTW u mentioned barber was a 5th, i believe he was a 6th if im not mistaken)
so just saying that we know that they were great picks for us, other fans not able to recognize that, well tahts a shame…we will let adibi and bennet and barber destroy the colts this year, then maybe they will be recognzied by colts fans…
well im done here
Go Texans
(Texans will beat colts both times this year, the “bad players we drafted” (barber, Adibi, and Diles) will all get sacks and INT for TD’s :)
Schaub debate – IMO Schaub is a top 10 QB…i dont care that he gets hurt…the fact is he is a great Qb…great arm good football IQ, and his stats prove it…no arguments possible
O-Line – HAHA to our OLINE sucks…our O-Line is actualy really underated (as are the texans in general) we have a nice group of lineman, and in the draft we improved our Line well…we got a great C/G that is good for our scheme, and the best Run blocking te in the group who can play Tackle too…i dont c how our line is so bad…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on May 5, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is true IF he stays healthy
Quit gloating because you have the #1 QB!
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by USMC_Texas on May 6, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schaub is a good QB no doubt
but top 10 bro?
in no order
Manning
Brady
Brees
Rivers
Rothlishaosudgoiger
Mcnabb
Palmer
Ryan
Manning
Romo
Culter
Warner
i mean, i wouldnt really take Matty over any of those dudes. thats 12 without thinking too hard. maybe he has more experience than Matt Ryan, but that guy really lit it up last year, and he’s still a freakin kid.
by MARVININDY on May 6, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eli is god-awful without a tall receiver to bail him out of his several interception-bound balls per game. And with the same team around them, I’d take Schaub over Warner, whose only talent right now is the insane receiving corps around him (his success has very little to do with him).
by was385 on May 6, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa, i disagree and I LOVE schaub and the texans
no way bro. Eli does not “suck.” Granted he has his issues, but he’s a winner and 9 out of 10 times, I’m taking Eli. Sorry, but I don’t really agree w/ that. Schaub isn’t a top 10 qb YET, however, to be fair, Romo and Roethliesberger are complete trash. COMPLETE. Romo is overrated hollywood trash dating porn stars. And Roethleisberger is a fatass lumberjack w/ a big greasy beard who is lucky the Cardinals secondary was gassed on the last drive, and Jeremy Stevens couldn’t catch a pass back 3 yrs ago. The man has inherited the best defense in ages and is not at all a big time qb…i’m sorry on sippin some serious haterade when it comes to Romo and Hairy fatass man.
by wiseonekms on May 9, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not a big time QB?
How about 26 come from behind wins in his first five seasons.
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by drinkyourmilkshake on May 11, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree
I think any criticism of Big Ben at this point is a little hollow
You know... for kids.
by Jake on May 14, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except for criticism of his motorcycle riding skills
Cause, you know, he sucks at that. Bad.
by Shake on May 14, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
OMG
Romo is on that list… I’d take The Schaub over Romo ANY day.
by WhiskeyR on May 6, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purely subjective but
McNabb = screen to westbrook + 1 highlight worthy scramble a year that gets played all over the place regardless if he gets the ball to a receiver or not.
E. Manning = has flashes of good but as stated earlier needs the tall receiver bail out most times
Brady = strong arm + good movement in pocket + system that just about any QB would succeed in. Let’s see how Cassel does with the Chiefs
Rothy=tough and strong but still not much better than halfway down the list of starting QBs in the league.
Ryan = we’ll wait and see. Good run game to work off of last year.
by sammocyr on May 6, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it can be argued for a few of these guys
but read what you are typing here.
how can you say your guy is in the same list as the super bowl MVP just a few years ago, or the guy who JUST wont the super bowl…..both of those guys with classic thows (in their respective super bowl games) that your grandkids will watch on NFL films in 25 years. i just dont see where you have an argument. im not saying your guy is a bad QB by any stretch. i just wouldnt pick him as a top QB in the NFL. and even on the same list as Mcnabb. come on guys. Schaub has started 24 games in his career, only 8 more than Matt Ryan but at this point i would take Ryan even though he is unproven. But most people would, and i think that speaks volumes about your guy. he still needs to get out there and prove that he was worth the hype as a diamond in the rough sitting on the bench in Atlanta waiting to be star. we’ll know before long. IF he gets out there and has a terrible year, im sure most of you will be screaming for a replacement and calling the trade for him a bad move.
to be honest i think Romo is really flakey and i wouldnt have him over matt stafford, but i had to put him on there because i knew someone would bitch about it =)
by MARVININDY on May 7, 2009 5:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top 10 when healthy
Is debatable. It is not a lock, but to me Romo is not on the list. The problem is he has been hurt every year, and until he proves otherwise, he will not be on the list.
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by USMC_Texas on May 7, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Top 12
:)
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by USMC_Texas on May 7, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MAYBE
just dont rely too much on what IF’s
hell i’d be rich IF i won the lotto. =)
by MARVININDY on May 7, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me and you both
And trust me, I like Shaub but I won’t believe the hype until he proves he can stay healthy.
Good point.
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by USMC_Texas on May 7, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
u make a valid point
btw, sammocyr, are u ACTUALLY contesting mcnabb as a top 10 or even top 5 qb? I am not trying to start shit, really..but McNabb is a sure fire hall of famer, and a STUUUD. He is the only thing keeping that team alive. The one year he gets even a half good receiver: Superbowl appearance. U can’t blame him for utilizing Westbrook when, cough: Pinkston, Baskett, Reggie Brown are ur highlight #1 receivers…come on man, totally unfair.
by wiseonekms on May 9, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Freddie Mitchell
Who would like to thank his hands for being so great.
by Nashmeister on May 10, 2009 6:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MARVININDY
This was posted on the thread that started this conversation about BBS. Pretty good research done and i got to give props to Riott for this.
had an 8.01 yards per attempt, probably the most telling stat of individual quarterback success. How did that rate him? Second in the NFL. He was 4th in yards per game with 276.6. His completion percentage was 4th in the NFL with a 66.1%. He had the 7th best Quarterback rating if you want to go by that. He was second in the NFL for percentage of passes going for first downs at 38.4%. He had a better attempt per INT ratio than Brees, Cutler, Favre, Roethlisberger, and Romo, among others.
Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers
Series Tied 1-1
by TexasHoosier on May 7, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
since when did a record make a QB??
do you think cassel is better than brees just because the pats had a better record than the saints last year??
Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers
Series Tied 1-1
by TexasHoosier on May 9, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many attempts did he have compared to those other QBs?
by MARVININDY on May 9, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Irrelevant
The statistic measures yards per attempt, so the gross number of attempts don’t matter.
Or are you trying to suggest that the sample size is inordinately small?
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 9, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
=) actually there was no suggestion
just a question.
arent we talking about more than yards per attempt?
by MARVININDY on May 9, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah we are
thats why there are more stats there than just yards per attempt
Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers
Series Tied 1-1
by TexasHoosier on May 9, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yards per game...
Is the only statistic listed above that varies with attempts. Regardless, his 8.01 YPA means that he’s more productive than all but one QB in the league per pass when it comes to moving the ball.
by Nashmeister on May 10, 2009 6:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just stating the facts
BBS is just taking his frustrations out that the Colts are on the way out and the Texans are on the rise.
Its a hard thing to handle when the mighty fall…
I’ll stand corrected if BBS was here when touting our problems and their successes when they were 14-2 and we were 2-14. If not, then it smells of fear.
We are FEARED!
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on May 6, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny
Seems I hear that every year. And it seems every year my team wins 12 games and the Texans suck.
BTW Guys, I’m one of the few SB Nation bloggers who has routinely said the Texans are good. And every year, I get laughed at by them because the Texans, quite simply, aren’t good. I firmly believe they play hard and are worthy opponents, and have said that numerous times. I think what hurt them last year was a bad o-line and a very unfortunate hurricane. Their season essentially ended when Indy made that amazing comeback against them in Houston last year.
Like all new seasons, anything is possible. I would not be surprised in the least if Houston won 10 or 11 games in 2009. Not at all. I think the area that needs the biggest improvement is the o-line, and the sack numbers back that up. You cannot win consistently in this league when your QB is constantly getting hit. Teams like Pittsburgh are rare exceptions as the defense there is so good it can overcome the mediocre play of the offense. But they play in the AFC North, which features the Bengals and Browns. You can get away with that there.
Not in the AFC South. Not with Peyton Manning in your division.
If I’m wrong in 2009, I’m wrong. But from 2002-2008, the Texans offensive line has not been good. Both the numbers and the win-loss back that up. If you can’t see that, I’m sorry. Sometimes the truth isn’t what people want to hear, and I have no sympathy for such people.
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by BigBlueShoe on May 7, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Troll
It amazes me that you come on our Blog to talk trash with BS facts to back it up. You claim that our O-line is our problem. Can we get better on O-line, of course. Is our O-line “crappy”? No it is not. The Colts have owned the Texans. That is not a news flash around here, so thanks for stating the obvious. Anybody with half a brain can see that the Texans biggest problem last year was our D. It was crappy. If you came on and said that, you would be credible. Instead you come on here and throw insults like some kind of D-bag troll, when you are a fellow blogger. That amazes me. Most guys that have their own blog have more class.
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by USMC_Texas on May 7, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
BBS is not a troll (although he’s a bit wong on this imo). I recall him having our back last year when the hordes of unwashed hillibillies (also known as Titans fans) started getting uppity.
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 7, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may not be....
But he is acting like one. Making a valid argument is one thing. To state something completely wrong in order to stir up fans is another. Also making comments like “Or, maybe you’ll just sit there and look dumbfounded.” are very TROLL like.
Just sayin.
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by USMC_Texas on May 7, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not acting like one
he’s just giving horrible arguments for crappy points.
by Only_A_Lad on May 7, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fair enough
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by USMC_Texas on May 7, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
I can’t win with you. Nothing I say seems to get through.
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by BigBlueShoe on May 7, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again
To repeat my comment down below, this statement:
If I’m wrong in 2009, I’m wrong. But from 2002-2008, the Texans offensive line has not been good. Both the numbers and the win-loss back that up. If you can’t see that, I’m sorry. Sometimes the truth isn’t what people want to hear, and I have no sympathy for such people.
Is not true. The Texans’ O-line has been average. I suppose you could say it’s not been good, but your original claim is that it was abysmal. This is simply not true. The Texans have one of the better offenses in the league, and an average (at least according to FO) o-line.
Their defense, on the other hand, has sucked.
Remember, as has been noted by others, sacks are not entirely a function of offensive line play. So to claim that the Texans’ o-line has sucked based on that one statistic alone is disingenuous.
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 7, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly my point
It takes a big man to walk away, but a bigger man to break his freaking jaw!
by USMC_Texas on May 7, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad.
Thanks for banning me from Stampede Blue!
Usually bloggers have thicker skins, being able to weather criticism from other bloggers but you sir, are very a special type of blogger. Emphasis on the special.
You’re the type to stick to your guns(and apparently choke on them also) without taking the FACTS into consideration. Though I haven’t actually signed up to be a part of this debate. I think Matt from DGDB&D and Jake(Transient Texan) took care of that.
So I say nay to your “The main reason why the Texans didn’t make the playoffs is because of their poor O-Line play”(that’s putting it an a presentable manner unlike yours) argument and would gladly suggest for you to return to being a zit in manning’s forehead.
by Yourdann on May 7, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you got a point big blue
but what u r not taking into consideration is how our offense FUNCTIONS. I remember stating this previously, but Kubiak is a BOOTLEG WHORE. That entails exposing your quarterback in space in order to increase his vision, and if he can run, offers him that option as well, but exposes him like NO OTHER. Watch carefully, this is not a strict pocket passing machine like the Colts offense nor is Schaub a master of pocket passing. He is definitely above average, but Kubiak REALLY got Schaub b/c of his potential to sell fakes and make quick decisions in free space. (The same can be said of Cutler and Roethleis-shit), these qb’s utilize aaalllooot of bootlegs, and also get sacked their fair share. It’s part of the game, and Kubiak gets it. We can call t 50-50, 50% Schaub is just not making the read quick enough and gets sacked, and 50% the o-line (rookie OT Duane Brown) surrenders a sack to Schaub on the blindside, but in NO WAY is this “o-line horrible.” if u came in here 2 yrs ago, I would give u a tiara and sache and say “this man is knows the truth,” but in this case I think ur looking at this through a bubble of statistics. Not fair at all. Improvement is necessary, and Kubiak’s upward trend w/ every aspect of this team suggests the O-line is going to make leaps and bounds despite what pessimistic fans might suggest.
by wiseonekms on May 9, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap
Now I have to read all this and craft a response on Stampede Blue. And just when I thought my night was going to be work free…
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by BigBlueShoe on May 6, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cool
Be sure to mention how our “crappy O-Line” got 333 rush yards on the Colts last year.
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by USMC_Texas on May 6, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Because our d-line sucked. That’s why.
Maybe you can explain how your “great” o-line can surrender 4 sacks in two games against Indy, resulting in at least two game changing turnovers that tilted the games in Indy’s favor?
Or, maybe you’ll just sit there and look dumbfounded.
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by BigBlueShoe on May 6, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right!
We lost game one, which Mario had 2 sacks by the way, because our Backup QB tried to make the highlight reel by turning himself into a helicoptor.
I am not saying the our rookie left tackle kicked Freeny’s ass, because that is stupid. All I am pointing out is our line was not crappy like you pointed out.
They will get better because they are young and upcoming. We had the third highest total yards in the NFL!
And I promise you it takes more than your little remarks to dumbfound me bud.
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by USMC_Texas on May 6, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you can stop using small sample sizes to distort your analysis.
One bad game (or even two bad plays) does not mean that our O-line sucked.
According to Football Outsiders, the Texans’ offensive line was pretty much average – 14th in the league in run blocking and 16th in the league in pass protection. That may not be great, but it’s far from abysmal or whatever word you used.
If you suffered through every second of the Texans’ last season, it would be clear as day that the Texans’ largest problem was on defense. It’ not even close. Football Outsiders confirms this: the Texans ranked 29th in team defense using their metrics.
To say that the Texans’ single largest problem was anything other than its complete suckhole of a defense is simply wrong.
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 7, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
um
what does ur d-line have to do w/ ur team not running the ball well?
by wiseonekms on May 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BBS
is saying the Colts D line sucked, thats why the Texans got so many yards on the ground.
by MARVININDY on May 10, 2009 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, then
why were we the only team to have a RB rush for 100 yards or more against Tennessee?
by Tailgate Andy on May 10, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
im not actually making a statement about the o-line
the dude was confused about what was actually stated……
by MARVININDY on May 10, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right!
We lost game one, which Mario had 2 sacks by the way, because our Backup QB tried to make the highlight reel by turning himself into a helicoptor.
I am not saying the our rookie left tackle kicked Freeny’s ass, because that is stupid. All I am pointing out is our line was not crappy like you pointed out.
They will get better because they are young and upcoming. We had the third highest total yards in the NFL!
And I promise you it takes more than your little remarks to dumbfound me bud.
It takes a big man to walk away, but a bigger man to break his freaking jaw!
by USMC_Texas on May 6, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
New FA signing I just discovered
So, do you guys think Turk needs some competition?
He is a pretty solid veteran, but he’s also had his moments the past couple years too (the San Diego game ranks up there with the Rosencopter in my mind) I guess another one on the roster can’t be a bad thing.
Some teams play games on Sunday...ours goes to War. Go Texans!!!
by JMPeffer on May 6, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Casserly was a failure....
Csserly was not a great draft guy. He just wasn’t. Kubiak/Smith have drafted MUCH better talent each year they have been around.
The talent on this team is finally (this year) to a level where post season play should be considered a real possibility.
I had the chance to meet a couple of the Texans players at a Charity event recently and spent some time chatting with them. They seemed genuinely excited and pumped up about this year’s possibilities, which in turn got me excited.
After last year I swore I wouldn’t make any playoff predictions, but barring another inury riddled season, I think the odds are VERY much in our favor.
by TexansForever on May 7, 2009 6:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Headlining
and getting us riled up was his goal.
Close the thread, problem solved.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on May 7, 2009 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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