What Can Bill Kollar Do For You?
In January of this year, a relatively important story received very little attention due to draft speculation, normal for the time of year. When Bill Kollar was hired by the Houston Texans, a statement was being made: Defense would no longer be an afterthought.
Kollar’s hiring came only a week after the promotion of head defensive assistant Frank Bush to defensive coordinator on January 13th. Kollar’s hiring was likely unheralded among Texans fans because of timing but also his recent success, or lack thereof; Kollar coached a Buffalo defensive line that ranked 28th and 29th in sacks for the last two years. How valuable of an asset could Kollar be if the Bills allowed him to leave for the same position on another team despite a contractual obligation? Upon further examination of his career coaching defensive lines for almost two decades, however, there is a great deal for Texans fans to take note of and think about.
Kollar began his career coaching after playing eight years as a defensive lineman from 1974 to 1982. Following a brief five year stint coaching college football, Kollar got his first job as a defensive line coach for the Atlanta Falcons from 1990 to 1999. After Atlanta, Kollar was brought to the St. Louis Rams organization from 2000 to 2005. Following the Rams, Kollar went to Buffalo for three seasons until he was released so he could be subsequently hired by the Texans on January 20th.
Coaches that specialize on one positional group for so long usually fall into one of two categories; either the coach hasn’t shown the ability to merit more responsibility, or that coach has passion and talent for one positional group, kind of like Alex Gibbs. Considering this coming season will make two solid decades that Kollar will have concentrated on one position, it begs the question, "Which group does he fall into?"
Right or wrong, defensive lines are usually judged by how many sacks they are able to record. Over the 19 years that Kollar has led defensive lines, his units have averaged 35 sacks a year, an average of 16th overall, which is as close as you can get to mediocre as possible in a 28 to 32 team league. On the other hand, six years have to be taken with a grain of salt; from '90 to '93, the Falcons utilized the 3-4 scheme, which does not rely on the defensive line to record sacks, so you could make the case that the sack count was somewhat out of Kollar’s control. And in '07 and '08, the Bills' defensive line was devoid of almost any talent with Aaron Schobel playing on a limited basis or not playing at all due to injuries. Excluding these seasons could be construed as selective analyzing, but in the remaining thirteen years, Kollar’s units averaged 40 sacks a year, which would place them at 12th overall. Even the biased stat gathering doesn't yield rosy numbers.
As pointed out by Brocos-Texans, Bill Kollar’s defensive lines have not been stout against the run. Over the last 19 years, the defenses featuring lines coached by Kollar have given up an average of 15 rushing touchdowns a year and 115.2 yards per game, which was good for 19th and 18th in the league over that period. Failure of a rushing defense can’t be blamed completely on a defensive line, but the averages don’t bode well for Kollar.
Kollar’s résumé seems lackluster considering these overall statistics, but there is a silver lining--he has repeatedly been able to elevate the play of certain types of defensive lineman. The first type he showed a talent for while coaching in Atlanta. After the Falcons switched from a 3-4 to a 4-3 in 1994, Bill Kollar had at least one defensive tackle with 6 sacks or more.
1994: James Gathers – 8 sacks.
1995: James Gathers – 7 sacks.
1996: Travis Hall – 6 sacks.
1997: Travis Hall – 10.5 sacks/Dan Owens – 8 sacks.
1998: Shane Dronett – 6.5 sacks.
1999: Shane Dronett – 6.5 sacks.
Gathers, Hall, Owens and Dronett were all similar players; tall, light under tackles who benefited from Kollar’s penetrating scheme. They ranged from 6’3" to 6’6" and yet not a single one was over 300 pounds. Every single one performed better for Kollar in Atlanta than any other team in their career, except for Dronett, who matched his two years in Denver. Kollar was never able to elevate any defensive tackles to this level in St. Louis or Buffalo, but the six years of 4-3 DT success in Atlanta with four different players shows a measure of consistency that should be attributed to coaching.
The second type is a smaller, high motor, speed rushing defensive end. Chuck Smith in Atlanta, Leonard Little in St. Louis, and Aaron Schobel in Buffalo were all similar players who had their best production under Kollar. Chuck Smith (6’2", 257) averaged 9 sacks a year under Kollar but managed only 5.5 sacks in the rest of his career without Kollar's tutelage. Leonard Little (6’3", 261) averaged 12 sacks a year under Kollar and 5 a year without him. Aaron Schobel (6’4", 262) had his only two Pro Bowl selections and highest sack total under Kollar before being injured for most of 2008.
Considering this particular success, there are two players that could benefit greatly from Bill Kollar’s coaching. Amobi Okoye showed flashes of talent when he recorded 5.5 sacks in his rookie year but regressed in 2008 due to a high ankle sprain and what many have speculated as lack of effort in the offseason. Connor Barwin is small for a defensive end but he was drafted in the second round because he showed extreme amounts of athleticism and determination. Both are identical in stature and manner of play to the types of players that Kollar has been able to get the most from.
Frank Bush has preached a mantra of getting up the field and attacking the ball since he was promoted to defensive coordinator. Mario Williams has shown that he can thrive in even a defunct defensive system, but for the Texans to have a pressure defense they will need more players to get after the quarterback, namely Okoye and Barwin. Kollar may not have the best résumé against the run, but hopefully the linebacking corps, which is as strong as it has ever been, can provide the necessary backup for an attacking defensive line. Bill Kollar may not be an elite defensive line coach, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be good for the Texans.
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Okoye and Smith/Barwin
Kollar’s going to be judged on how those guys do, especially Okoye. Super Mario will be Super Mario; it’s on Kollar (and F. Bush) to work magic with the rest of the defensive line.
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by Tim on Jul 30, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dronett
Dronett had two things going for him that set him apart:
1. Non-stop motor.
2. Extremely strong for his size.
And this is it, Jake. Between the d-line and the safeties, I’m starting to think we’re only part of the way there. I got sucked into a work emergency, so I’m not going to have time tonight, but this is where my consternation kicks in. The constipation is cuz I’m old.
by bigfatdrunk on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is my hope
That Barwin has those two attributes in the same amounts as Dronett. I think it’s possible.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 30, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If our defensive play,
specifically our defensive line and safeties, is simply average then we will be greatly improved. As has been pointed out, we were historically bad last year. I am a fan of the Kool-Aid, but I ain’t crazy. I think.
The strong do what they have to do; the weak accept what they have to accept
by Riott on Jul 31, 2009 8:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i was much more optimistic about our line coaching
before reading this post… not to belittle his accomplishments, but why did we hire this guy when the chips are actually going to be on the table this year? If any organization in the league could benefit from throwing money at tip top D-Line coaches, you’d think it was this team, with so much talent, money and team success riding on this areas improvement. Was this the very best guy money could get this year?
by Smittybaby on Jul 31, 2009 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't stress too much about statistics
Kollar has been a very respected D-line coach in the NFL for some time now, his calling card has been getting decent production from below average talent. His defensive lines may have been mediocre on average, but when they’re being filled with subpar talent mediocre is pretty darn good. Most every analyst I heard commenting on the Kollar signing mentioned that he has a reputation in the league for getting the most out of very little on his lines.
by Bryan72076 on Aug 1, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I worry about Connor Barwin
I am not overly hopeful of Connor Barwin gaining success in his rookie year, he with a Matt Schaub-like body. Imagine Matt Schaub trying to get around the premier left tackles in the league. He would be crushed. That is Barwin.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 1, 2009 8:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What?
Matt Schaub – 6’5", 238

Connor Barwin – 6’4", 260

They’re body types don’t have any similarities.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Aug 1, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Figures someone would blow Barwin up and shrink Schaub for their purposes
Both NFL.com and HoustonTexans.com list Schaub at 239 and he is probably bigger from my estimation. That 239 is a cute way of saying 240-something. The same two sources list Barwin as 256 and I think that might be generous. Prior to being in the NFL he was listed at 246 at Cincinnati. So, yes, they are similar size in my estimation. I think Barwin has a long way to go to prove that he isn’t going to get manhandled like a rag doll by 300-320 lb NFL tackles.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 2, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
I’m sorry I missed the one pound on Matt, how dishonest of me. NFL.com has Barwin listed at 256 because that’s what he weighed at the Combine. All draft prospects drop weight for that because of the 40 yard dash. Even so, pictures or not, 17-20 pounds is a difference.
You arbitrarily compared two people without anything to back it up other than I told you so. Then when someone argues against you, you insinuate dishonesty over 5 pounds in an argument that doesn’t even matter. Good stuff.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Aug 2, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
you think Barwin is just a fine size for an NFL defensive end or do you just want to argue about the fine details of my analogy.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 2, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if they don't convert him to OLB
then the coaches are not seeing something that is staring them in the face. Then, if Barwin rushes the passer from the LB position, now we’re talking.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 2, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point of the article
One of the major purposes of this post was to show what Bill Kollar has done with “under sized” DE’s like Barwin. At today’s practice, Kubiak described Barwin as 265 pounds. That weight is bigger than Chuck Smith, Leonard Little and Aaron Schobel, who all went to multiple Pro Bowls under Kollar and tallied double digits sack totals.
We already drafed a SAM LB, and Barwin is way to big to play WILL. So are you saing that we should use our first two draft picks on the same position?
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Aug 2, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I am hearing
Is that the Texans drafted there 2nd round pick to play the same position as their recently acquired FA who makes bucco bucks and they for the next two years they will only let the 2nd rounder play when it is 3rd and long. I’m not buying that. Because Barwin is fast and long-armed for a LB, I think the Texans have to try him at WILL, on the early downs. I think he can cover and I think he can chase. Then I cand see Mario moving tothe left side and Barwin lining up on the line on 3rd and long with Quinn coming in as the nickel.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 3, 2009 10:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Barwin is undersized for an everydown DE
But that’s not what he’s going to be asked to be in his rookie season. He’s going to be used mostly as a situational pass rusher at first which will pretty much sidestep the downfall from playing a light DE which is usually against the run. Some undersized DEs are able to become full time ends, but for this system I think Barwin’s going to need to put on another 10-15 lbs over the next few years in order to do all the things we’d ask of him as a full time end. Unless of course we decided to move Williams to LDE and start Barwin at RDE, size wouldn’t be as much of an issue as it would be lining up on the strongside.
My prediction though is that Barwin is almost exclusively a situational pass rusher this season and probably next, while slowly adding muscle mass to his fram and easing into a starting role in 3 years or so. Unless Smith totally bombs here, there’s no rush on developing Barwin as an every down player.
by Bryan72076 on Aug 2, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok, seems you have given some ground
So, I will too. Don’t get mad at me for saying that. You just said in so many words that he needs to put on weight to be an every down DE. And, you brought up a GREAT point of moving Mario to the left side and having Barwin on the right side. Now to my point. They have to try Barwin in coverage!!! This guy could be a FREAK if he can be used there on rushing downs. Here is my plan. The Texans also want to bring in Glover Quinn as the nickelM when you do that, you lose a LB. That would be Barwin who moves closer to the line of scrimmage. I say try him as an every down guy playing off the line on the early downs and moving in on long downs and bringing in Quinn as your nickel. Just throwing that out there. I think this is conducive to what Kollar wants to do and likes to do and it also gets Barwin on the field more using his athleticism and long frame.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 3, 2009 10:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that i've given ground.
I’ve pretty much always have thought Barwin will be used almost strictly as a situational passrusher in his first few years since we drafted him. Not only is he a little on the small side for end, but he also only has 1 year of experience at the position. It’s going to be a learning proccess for Barwin and I fully expect them to take it one step at a time with him.
Using a guy at LB, another position he’d be relatively new to, while you’re trying to teach him how to play end and possibly beef him up a bit would probably be a mistake. It doesn’t matter how athletic or smart he is, there’s a limit to how much someone can take in at one time, and he’ll have his hands full just learning to play end well in the NFL. If Barwin were ever asked to play LB it’d almost certainly be on the strong side and then you’d have to figure out what to do with Cushing. The only way I can see it really is if we didn’t resign Ryans and slid Cushing to MLB and slotted Barwin at SLB. Even then I think it’d be a bit of a waste, Barwin has the potential to be a top flight pass rusher off the edge, putting him at LB will literally halve his opportunities to rush and the rest of the time we’ll be depending on his yet unproven cover abilities.
Just because Barwin likely won’t start at DE in his first few years doesn’t mean it’s a waste to prepare him for the role. Barwin was a pick based on potential, you have to give him time to realize the potential he has at the position he was drafted for rather than try to force a square peg into a round hole just to get him more playing time his first year.
by Bryan72076 on Aug 3, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I was replying on by blackberry and confused you with Jake who thinks Barwins size is just fine
Yes, you have been consistent.
I would like to see Barwin tested at LB and I think with his quickness and length, he has the potential to excel. You said he has unproven cover abilities, and say he also is unproven as an every down DE. You use the word potential, which I am translating to unproven. I’m not sure testing him at LB is forcing a square peg into a round hole. He may be so good at that position, that he gives the Texans a whole new dimension that other teams can’t contend with. For, instance, on blitzes; can you imagine Mario rushing from the corner, with Barwin right behind him. If the defense is going to double Mario, where does that leave them with Barwin? A running back trying to chip him? I think Barwin could play right over that. Perhaps, in that case the offense has to pick their poison and not double team Mario and again, another dominant situation for the Texans. So, for that reason, I want to see them try to keep Barwin on the field as much as possible and not just obvious 3rd and long situations. If the coaches don’t try it, I will be very surprised.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 3, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is raw at DE as well
But he has played the position before at least and played it at a pretty high level despite not having the most refined technique. You can watch film and see that he can use his speed and agility well with the limited moves he has and get to the QB. The potential is more in regards to Barwin becoming an all-purpose DE, I don’t think there’s alot of questioning whether he has the ability to rush the passer. So him being used as a situational pass rusher now plays into his strengths and allows him to pick up the rest while still getting decent playing time/production.
Speed and quickness on the line doesn’t always translate to a good pass cover LB. Dwight Freeney is about as athletic a DE as they come, put him at weak side LB and it’s going to get ugly fast. It’s possible that Barwin’s abilities would allow him to play LB well, but it’s nowhere near a sure thing, and most everyone is in agreement that he could probably be a somewhat effective passrusher at end now.
These very types of conversation is why i’ve always been against drafting LB/DE “tweeners”, sometimes even the teams that draft them are unsure which position to stick them at, and often they end up being not quite spry enough to play LB and too light to play end because the team doesn’t just decide "this is what you’re going to be for us, we need “x” “y” and “z” from you in order for you to succeed here. I came around with the Barwin pick both because he has a large enough frame that he should be able to add a little mass if needed without sacrificing much speed or quickness, and that the team from day one had a clearly defined role for him.
by Bryan72076 on Aug 3, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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