Attitude
I was watching a little half hour show on NFL network (or ESPN I can’t really remember) a week or so ago about the top 10 Defenses of all time and it struck me that they had one thing in common. They where all mean, not just I want to win and I want you to loose kind of competitiveness but the I want to crush your face because you dared to walk on the field kind of mean. Guys with nick names like “Mean Joe” played for these teams, not “Super Mario”. Not that I’m not a fan of Mario but when was the last time someone feared the Texans D? TJ is more likely described as “Eeyore” than “Mean” . I did a little Google video search for Albert Haynesworth and guess what I got, almost nothing of him doing his actual job like plugging up the middle or sacking the QB, but I got like 1000 videos of him stomping on Andre Gurode, and another 1000 of him excepting a $100 Million contract from Washington.
Mean is what makes a great defense not just a good defense. I’m not saying I want a them breaking rules but I want the other teams receivers to know it was a mistake to grab that floating pass over the middle, I want video of the other teams running back getting knocked back after taking a head on collision with our line backers on the ESPN highlight real every week. I want the fans in the top level at Reliant to cringe when they hear a collision. I want Manning, Collins, and Garrad to hate the idea of coming to Houston. Hell I want Steve, Andre, and Matt thinking how glad they are that those guys hold back on the practice field.
My list of nick names I want to see by the end of the year
“De Cap” DeMeco
“Maniac Mario”
“Crush”
“Bulldog” Bulman
“Coroner” Barwin
“KO” June
“X-Man” Adibi
“Death Blow” Diles
“Frenkenstein” Okam
Amobi “I’ll Kill ya” Okoya
D nickname “The Stampede” or “Franks Fearsome Front”
I want to see the kind of nicknames that are earned, the kind that you are more likely to see in WWE than on the football field, the kind that other teams give you, not the kind you tell your twitter followers to call you.
Short and simple I want them to bring the pain every play, every down, every game and everyone to know that is what they are doing.
D don’t settle for being better than last year or even being a “good” defense, be great and bring the hate!
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Mean like what?

Like that?
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Jul 7, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Who are the Brocos?
Do they ever play the Chefs?
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 7, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Broke-Broncos
Thanks to Mcdumbass.
Never hire an ex NE coach!
by Texans-Brocos on Jul 7, 2009 5:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
hahah
amen, he screwed up y’alls team big time…
by schillingb on Jul 7, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just getting back to this
I like it!
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 13, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Travis Johnson's
problem is that he isn’t mean.
His problem is that he sucks at football and has lousy work ethic.
"I am from one of the top 15 cities in the world. Buffalo, New York." - TrentEdwardsHoF2018
by Artest4Prez on Jul 7, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
minus the time
he stomped over Greens unconscious body…that was hilarious
by schillingb on Jul 7, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
very true. I’m chuckling just thinking about it.
Plus, honestly, which of us hasn’t taunted an unconscious dude. Seriously.
looks around. has the only hand that’s up except for TJ
Hmmm….
by bigfatdrunk on Jul 8, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does drunken teabagging in college count?
Oh… uh… awkward.
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Jul 11, 2009 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nicknames
DeJesus
Super Mario
Brian Crushing
Freddie Krueger for Bennet? I don’t know.
by cubic on Jul 7, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus
that might be pushing it a bit, but I like the thought.
I couldn’t come up with anything for the secondary but I like the idea for Bennett
by Texans-Brocos on Jul 7, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm...
Fred “Bet on it” Bennett
Dominique “The Barbarians Brother” Barber
Antuan “Golden” Molden
Dunta " Gonna Hunt ya down" Robinson
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 7, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus is right out
Sounds to similar to something ESPN will save for Tim Tebow. Not that it has anything to do with a play on his name, but they’ll make it fit.
by divinebovine on Jul 8, 2009 5:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LOVE IT!!!!!
Our defender should play borderline dirty and take a few suspensions to make the colts offense remember them the next they play. To hell with Kubiak and his “choir boy” love of players with a sqeaky clean past. I want Mario to act like the big guy in the longest yard when he hits Manning “I think I broke his Fuckin’ Neck” I want Dunta to go Jack Tatum on Reggie Wayne. He he puts him in the hospital quote Ivan Drago….“And if he dies he dies”.
Rumplestiltskin
by jahunter221 on Jul 7, 2009 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with their mentality as is.
You don’t have to be “mean” or a “dirty player” to be a good defender. Sure, on all of the best defenses in the league, there was a couple of vocal trash talkers and all around “mean” guys, but there’s at least a few of them on almost every NFL defense (and offense for that matter) regardless of how well they play. When they’re putting together highlight film, the more colorfull players/plays will always make the cut, because that’s more entertaining than closed-lipped dudes just getting the job done quietly. What it doesn’t show though is that all of those top defenses, besides those few “meanies”, were full of hard nosed “nice” guys that just kept their mouths shut and got the job done with good sportsmanship along the way. You don’t have to be a loud mouthed trash talker to be an intimidating defensive player, that’s just the type that will get the most media attention. I don’t think how “mean” or loud a defense is really has much impact on any offense during the game, it’s just fodder for talk afterwards. If an NFL player is going to be intimidated by someone being “mean” during the game, he doesn’t belong in the NFL.
by Bryan72076 on Jul 8, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'll split the differene
Jahunter,
I think mean but not evil, lets not go over board.
Bryan, Tim
There is a difference between mean, and “loud and irritating”, I don’t think any of the people I was talking about where trash talkers, hell I don’t think "mean Joe Green" spoke before the coke commercial. Being mean isn’t about intimidation it’s about hesitation.
Example I have done Tea Kwon Do for years and when I spar with someone I make an effort to get one good kick to my opponents ribs early, that bit of pain every time they raise their arms afterwards makes them hesitate just a little, slow down just a fraction, come at me just a little less, it work to my advantage the rest of the match. Football is even more mental, if your cuts on your routes are a little sloppier, or you don’t extend quite as much to make the catch, or don’t hit the hole quite as hard as you did the first play, all because you know you’ll get hit hard every play. In a game of inches it makes a big difference.
Not intimidation but hesitation!
by Texans-Brocos on Jul 8, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But that’s just saying you want them to play more aggressively and hit hard… We drafted Cushing with that very purpose in mind.
A WR who gets his clock cleaned while catching a pass over the middle might take his eyes off the ball later on in the game on a similar route. For one, even if we were the hardest hitting mo’foes in the league, that’s not going to happen very often. Amatures and student athletes would be much more prone to “hesitation” as you describe than an NFL veteran. You’d have to hit a guy pretty hard to give him anything he hasn’t already taken a hundred times or more in the NFL, it just doesn’t happen that often. You see it the most in those cases where recievers takes their eye off the ball, but more times than not it’s a known failing with that particular WR that he takes with him every game rather than anything special about your defense. It happens just as often that a reciever takes his eyes off the ball because he has TD on his mind as him being afraid of getting hit, probably even more so.
But I agree with that on the whole, I like to see physical play from defenses whether it intimidates anyone or not. But playing physical and aggressive isn’t the same as playing “mean”. Mario Williams doesn’t play mean, loud, angry, or anything else, but he’s probably one of the more intimidating DEs in this league simply because of his size, speed, and ability on the field. Does Williams play aggressively? I think so, as much as the defense he plays in allows. That’s the thing that hurt the Texans last year, they were playing too passively on defense. It almost seemed like they (coaches) were trying not to give up big plays rather than make plays on their own and it cost them in alot of yards. But that goes to show that you don’t even need to play in an overly aggressive defense in order to be an “intimidating” presence on the field. Just playing your position damned good will do that, no harsh words or angry scowls needed.
In short, the Texans don’t need to play “mean” or with attittude on defense, they just need to play better than they have been. They need to not give up 4-5 yards per rush and allow the QB 5-6 seconds in the pocket, their temperment on the field doesn’t matter near as much as their play. They could all bring the opposing team flowers before the game and apologize for every hit inbetween plays, as long as they make the plays they need to during the game. Mean or nice doesn’t matter to me at all, except that I typically have more compassion and patience for good sportsmen who screw up during a game than “mean” dudes who do the same. Which again leads back to Travis Johnson (funny how that works), if you’ve seen him play before you already know he’s a horrible sport whether he’s winning or losing, so when he screws up I have absolutely no remorse at letting him have a piece of my mind whereas when I see guys who respect themselves, their opponents, and the game at all times slip up on the field, I curse them under my breath then offer encouragements out loud.
by Bryan72076 on Jul 8, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aggressiveness
Bryan,
I’m with you about the aggressiveness, that is by far the most important thing, I also believe this is the reason the brought in Cushing, and Barwin and the overall focus of Bush in his defensive system. These guys are at this level because they like what they do, they like to attack the guy with the ball, they like making hits. A passive defensive scheme asks the players to do something that is kind of unnatural to them, to sit back and wait for the play to come to them. To be frank that is why TJ was a starter all of this time because he did exactly what he was asked to do, stand in the middle and dont let much past him. But he never went and got the guy with the ball. Take a look at the above pick, that isn’t the look of a guy that is glad he is your friend, that is the look of a guy who enjoys planting you in the turf.
I’m with you about being a good sportsman, you can go out and crush a guy in a play and still be a good sport win or loose. Troy Polamalu is case and point great sportsman on and off the field but during a play scary as hell.
by Texans-Brocos on Jul 8, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't care if they're mean or have an attitude or not
I just want them to be good at football.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 13, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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