Your Cheating Heart
by bigfatdrunk on Aug 13, 2009 7:06 PM CDT
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Please allow me a moment to hop off my high-horse...which must be both simultaneously frightening and refreshing.
In a not-as-shocking as it might seem interview, Bronson Arroyo admitted to taking non-MLB approved supplements. This, of course, has brought down the "oh, we were supposed to be paying attention to this?" wrath of MLB, the most clueless bunch of idiots since the Detroit Lions came into existence.
Athletes cheat. Cheating is part of sports.
I cheated. I played baseball. I knew how to throw a spitball by the time I was 12. Do you know why balls are turned over so quickly in the majors? It's because the slightest scuff on a ball can turn an average slider into an unhittable pitch. Pitchers know this, and we take every little advantage possible.
Then, there's steroids. I was honored to be able to take a class from one of the trailblazers of proselytizing about the dangers of steroids, Terry Todd, at The University of Texas at Austin (eat it, beef). One of his first articles was titled and sub-titled:
The Steroid Predicament
In spite of evidence that anabolic steroids can undermine one's health, the use of these drugs is widespread among athletes, who will risk their physical well-being for the promise of stronger performance
When I enumerate my concerns about Brian Cushing, and I mention one of them being the rumors of Cushing's alleged steroid use, there's good reason (and bad). Medically, we've know that steroid use is horrible for at least three decades. Aside from bacne and the shrunken testicles (true) and 'roid rage (too true), steroids can facilitate injury for a number of physiological reasons.
Of course, Cushing's alleged use is just rumor, innuendo, and playground fodder. We have no definitive proof Cushing is using, but it has become a consideration, thanks in part to his injury history. There's been significant rumor-mongering about baseball players using, and an unfortunate number of those rumors have been true. However, remember that correlation does not equal causation. Or, ummmmm, vice versa.
Perhaps there's a bit of projection on my part. If I thought I could use and not get busted? I'd damn well do it. After all, it's not cheating until you get caught, and I cheated plenty. I hope, with all my heart, that Cushing is, and has been, clean. I'd love for him to find other, legal ways to cheat.
Better conclusion per T-B:
'Roids bad and could lead to a propensity to injury. I wouldn't blame him if he did 'roids, but it could have a negative effect on his health. I like boobs.
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yeah...
Didn’t make it well enough, I assume.
When I enumerate my concerns about Brian Cushing, and I mention one of them being the rumors of Cushing’s alleged steroid use, there’s good reason (and bad).
Which is the point….I guess not made well enough. I was trying not to use the sledgehammer on the point, but your criticism is very well taken. And I think you’re right.
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 13, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a great article
On Tony Mandarich’s steroid use before the Rose Bowl.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1152771/1/index.htm
That was a long time ago, though. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cushing is jacked on supplements- but I’d be surprised if he’s dumb enough to actually use something that he could test positive on. On the upside, he’s competitive as hell.
by JimboTexan on Aug 13, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
For USC players avoiding drug tests, I prefer this one on Marinovich….ah, USC..
http://www.esquire.com/features/the-game/todd-marinovich-0509?click=main_sr
by JimboTexan on Aug 13, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks!
Yeah, this was the era when use was blatant.
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kinda got that but wasnt sure
You missed the fact that there are several studies now that show that roids increase the risk of injury!
by Texans-Brocos on Aug 13, 2009 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
new avatar?
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You hate me, don't you
:-)
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Why would you say such thing?!
When I was googling for a new avatar, I was thinking to myself
“What Would BFD Do”
So I googled “David Car pwnage” and that pictured appeared on
the first page of the results.
BTW, Tim helped me decide. So I think it’s Tim that hates you.
by Jordann on Aug 14, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes sense
Plus, according to Tim, we can blame him for everything.
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Football is a contact sport
accident-prone doesn’t mean he takes steroids
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 13, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I really thought
that we were done talking about the Kush today.
by Jordann on Aug 13, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, Sir
And I’ve got a post about my alleged Anti-Cushing stance that should be up tomorrow afternoon. It’s the gift that keeps on giving. Like herpes.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Aug 13, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, jordan
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 13, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is gonna be
the 08-09 theme of the season huh.
Not bad as Rosenchopper or Captain Hairspray yet.
But it definitely has potential.
by Jordann on Aug 13, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope not
Hopefully, we’ll be talking about taking it easy on other teams cuz we’re driving them to tears with the whoopings.
Cushing just happens to be a hot topic.
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you go into more detail for us?
You know, besides repeating over and over about his rumored alleged steroid use? That mantra that you keep chanting in your Anti-Cush circle of fire is getting tedious. Are you in any way inferring that he uses steroids when you say that you cheat so he should cheat? Are you saying because you cheat, he cheats? When you enumerate your concerns about Brian Cushing am I supposed to believe that you are telling me he uses steroids? When you say that rumors about baseball players using steroids are true, am I supposed to correlate that with the rumors you report about Brian Cushing allegedly using steroids and they are also true? By writing a story about steroids and associating Brian Cushing with steroids in your story are you trying to tell me that I should associate Brian Cushing with steroids? Because that is what I am doing right now. I am reading your story and I am associating Brian Cushing with cheating and using steroids. I did do that. I hope Brian Cushing doesn’t find out that I read this and ended up associating him with being a steroid user.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 13, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
x
At this point, Rip, I consider you a troll on the oilzwell level. This, right here, will be about the last time I engage with you.
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 5:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is exactly what I consider you
and I think Tim, the manager of this board should reconsider his stated mission to bring this point more forward. He should also be concerned with the damage already caused by your submission. I don’t know if you realize it but pro athletes have become aware recently of negative unsubstantiated statements and associations regarding steroids and it has been followed by actual defamation lawsuits. The obvious point of your submission above is to link Brian Cushing to steroids. It wasn’t to educate the public about the danger of steroids. Brian Cushing is worth untold amounts of money as a product sponsor. I don’t think he will be pleased by your clouded entry. That is the point of my comment above. Does that concern you? It should.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 14, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not good at ignoring stupidity. /pops knuckles, stretches fisking muscles
I think Tim, the manager of this board
Thank you for specifying which Tim. We were all wondering. Personally, I assumed you meant former 49er Tim Krumrie, but I really had no basis for that assumption. Man, I’m glad you clarified that.
should reconsider his stated mission to bring this point more forward.“this point?” The topic of the first part of your sentence was that you consider BFD a troll, so you are saying that Tim has a stated mission to “bring…more forward” BFD’s trollishness? And you think Tim should reconsider this mission? SYNTAX FAIL.
He should also be concerned with the damage already caused by your submission.Why? Skipping for a moment that you are presupposing damage, why should Tim be worried? Wait… you’re not going to imply that somehow Tim could be legally liable here, are you?
I don’t know if you realize it but pro athletes have become aware recently of negative unsubstantiated statements and associations regarding steroidsReally? They’ve only recently become aware of this? Huh. Considering steroid speculation has been going on for years (decades?), I find your assertion dubious at best. Please cite a source. Or just shut up. I’ll take either at this point.
and it has been followedI assume “it” is in reference to athletes’ awareness. English is your second language, isn’t it? Where the hell are you going with this, anyway?
by actual defamation lawsuits.Pardon me for one second.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
There, that’s better.
Are you serious? You are trying to claim that BFD’s post could be the basis for a defamation lawsuit? I’m going to go out on a limb and assume that you are not a lawyer, a law student, or even moderately proficient at using a search engine. Defamation of a public figure in Texas has three elements (see, e.g.,
WFAA-TV, Inc. v. McLemore, 978 S.W.2d 568, 571 (Tex. 1998)):
1. publication of a statement
2. that was defamatory concerning the plaintiff
3. and was made with actual malice
I would argue that this post fails to satisfy elements 2 or 3. But even if I grant element 2, there’s no way Cushing could meet the burden of #3. Actual malice requires proof by clear and convincing evidence that the speaker either knew that the statement was false or that he recklessly disregarded its potential falsity. BFD notes more than once in this post that all steroid talk about Cushing is rumor, going so far as to say “Cushing’s alleged use is just rumor, innuendo, and playground fodder. We have no definitive proof Cushing is using, but it has become a consideration, thanks in part to his injury history” and “I hope, with all my heart, that Cushing is, and has been, clean.”
If that’s “actual malice,” I’m 6 feet tall and you aren’t an obnoxious troll.
The obvious point of your submission above is to link Brian Cushing to steroids.
No, the obvious point was that (a) there are rumors of Cushing’s steroid use, (b) because steroids increase a player’s risk of injury, Cushing’s injury problems give one additional pause, © but it is still all conjecture and guessing, and (d) BFD wouldn’t blame a pro athlete for trying to get an edge by taking steroids.
It wasn’t to educate the public about the danger of steroids.
Hey, you got something right! Awesome job, buddy!
Brian Cushing is worth untold amounts of money as a product sponsor.
I don’t think he will be pleased by your clouded entry.
Being displeased does not equal proof of defamation. Do you have a point here? Oh, perhaps your point is to illustrate that you don’t know anything about this topic and this is your (very meta) way of illustrating. Awesome.
That is the point of my comment above.
This comment? Newflash: Just because you fail at reading comprehension and think the whole post was meant to make you associate Cushing with steroids does not (a) make that a correct assumption or (b) matter in the least from a legal standpoint.
Does that concern you?
Does the fact that your barely-coherent rambling in the first comment was meant to (incorrectly) suggest that BFD could be sued for defamation concern him? I’m going to guess that it does not.
It should.
If BFD were an idiot who took everything said by anonymous internet commenters at face value, that is.
Sweet jesus, dude, if you’re going to spout off, at least have a vague clue regarding your topic. For example, you would probably be better served speaking about “how to sound like an idiot” and “how to annoy people online.” Leave the football and legal talk to the grownups, ok? Thanks.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 14, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ripped apart.
I had no idea who’s reply this was until I read the response to the first bullet point.
Then im like Matt’s back! Well sorta kinda.
On another note.
Hi Matt!
waves like a retard
by Jordann on Aug 14, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Howdy
The Tim Krumrie reference was my favorite part of that whole thing, only because he was literally the first Tim that popped into my head and I have absolutely no clue why. I couldn’t even pick that guy out of a police lineup.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 14, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not roids,
It air…..
Seriously, given all the stuff I hear about the guys attitude toward taking care of him self I highly doubt that he has ever done any of the stuff. Quite frankly I’m not sure how these guys can know what supplements, or anything else is ok for them to take, It’s like they have to call the team Doctor to find out if it is ok to take an aspirin for a headache.
PS to everyone can we save the hating for the Titans and Colts!
by Texans-Brocos on Aug 14, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if you can hot-box in there...
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm equal opportunity
when it comes to hating. Dumb is dumb, regardless of team affiliation. Colts/Titans fans just get an extra dose of hate BECAUSE of their team affiliations.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 14, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm pretty arrogant, so please forgive me
But anyone who thinks that you you can start at linebacker at USC or in the NFL without PHDs is pretty naive. (I’m not talking about a post-graduate degree, either)
I remember reading about David Boston when I was a freshman in high school. He said he spent $100K+ a year on a “nutritionist” who had him take specific vitamins at specific times a day; he’d have daily blood samples which were used to determine what vitamins he was deficient on, whether his insulin levels were optimal, etc. That all may be true, but we know he was doing more than just that.
The reason I bring that up is that even if a guy were doing only what David Boston claimed to be doing, I doubt that he would have a shot at starting in this league. I’m pretty convinced that, at least at linebacker (yes I know Boston was a WR) and running back, if you’re not juicing, you’re not serious about being a starter.
I don’t really care, though. It’s against the rules, it’s against the law, and it still happens – I hope they are smart enough to do it under a doctor’s watchful eye, even though this would make the doctor crooked. As a fan, I don’t care too much. I don’t get self-righteous about the integrity of the game, and I think that’s where the reasonable NFL fan has to end up on this issue.
I get the whole innocent-until-proven guilty thing, but that’s a legal standard. There’s the truth, and then there’s the legal truth. Just because you can’t prove that a guy is doing it doesn’t mean he’s not doing it.
by socctty on Aug 14, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This whole thing would have been better
…if you’d blown a snot-rocket out of your nostril after popping your knuckles and stretching your fisking muscles.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 14, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hold on a sec...I'm reading.......NOT!!!!
hahahaha! Someone wasted a lot of time. There’s a wiki-lawyer in every blog.
What else is new,? Oh I noticed Yahoo refused to link this post by bfd. I wonder why?
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 14, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops
because I forgot to check the box. thanks for the reminder!
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fixed
I took care of it.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Aug 14, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
still learning the interface :-)
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good catch, huh?
I’m always looking out for you guys.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 14, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It still isn't coming up on Yahoo
They only link four posts and it was bumped to fifth when the Blind Faith post was made. Any way you can bump it up the list?
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 14, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh well
But, once again, you can neither make nor support the most basic of arguments, choosing to flat out ignore any evidence in front of you. You fail to address any of what MDC said, going directly to name calling and baseless accusations.
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you trying to bait me, troll?
I’m in a good mood, let’s not ruin it.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 14, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proved my point PERFECTLY.
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joke's on you, he actually IS a lawyer
by socctty on Aug 14, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha!
And probably quite capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, much to the dismay of his clients.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 14, 2009 8:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I never quite understood the outrage over rumors of his steroid use
Aside from QBs and kickers, I’d venture to guess that steroid use in the NFL is the norm, not the exception. Yea, his propensity to get injured might have something to do with steroid use – but then again, I think you could say the same about most players in the NFL.
Sometimes a guy gets hurt, and that’s all there is to it. I think this is one of those situations. If he had a long history of knee problems, I guess that would be the right time to scream “I told you so!” from the hill tops. But that’s not the case. The guy has been going all-out in training camp, and then worked out afterward that day. He probably just over-worked himself.
by socctty on Aug 13, 2009 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This from Bill Simmons kind of sums up my approach to steroids in sports
This was in reference to the 2004 baseball season, but I think the sentiment applies to the current NFL season.
So many players were using “illegal” enhancers, and so many others were looking the other way … I mean, can you even call it cheating? It’s like blaming your dog for swiping the last two pork chops off the kitchen counter because you were dumb enough to leave them there in the first place. Too much money and glory were at stake to expect competitive athletes to say, “I can’t bend the rules, I don’t feel right about it” when again, EVERYONE was looking the other way. Hell, baseball even encouraged it.
The incentive to use them is great. The immediate downside is very low.
by socctty on Aug 13, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Hank Williams...
Les Paul died today. :(
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Aug 13, 2009 11:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When Shawn Merriman gets caught using steroids it
makes one wonder to what extent it is accepted in the sport. I think that fans are less shocked or hurt to find out that a NFL player got caught using roids than a MLB player.
I’m pretty sure that most of the players stay one step ahead of the test and therefore don’t use steroids but use HGH or something that is less detectable.
Not sure what my point is unless it is that steroids in football isn’t looked upon as bad as steroids in baseball.
by shiner37 on Aug 14, 2009 12:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
Ironically, the NFL was light years ahead of MLB in testing. If taking HGH would help me do my job better, and I could get away with it and make tons more money, though it might cut down my life span? It would be a hard call.
Most leagues are on schedules, which allows them to stay a step ahead. If you know you’re going to get tested on Monday, don’t smoke pot for a couple of days, use a masker, and drink tons of water. And voila!
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HGH probably doesn't shorten your life span, as I understand it.
And it’s nigh upon undetectable.
So… how is this a tough call for an NFL player?
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see HGH shortening your lifespan
From what I understand, it makes your organs grow, too. Increased heart size = bad stuff
by socctty on Aug 14, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steroids
Meh.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 14, 2009 2:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did Cush Stuff You in a Locker?
Talk about sentences upon sentences of unsubstantiated garbage!
Cushing is a kid who has been nothing but a workhorse since his junior high days.
He’s a winner who does things the right way – He doesn’t have a criminal record, baby-mommas scattered around, or any history of using steroids.
Jealous fools like yourself who probably couldn’t even hold your own in a charity game sit here and blog about how much you hate the guy, and do it with lies and speculation, while pretending that you’re not rehashing the same juvenile cheap-shots.
It’s obvious you didn’t like the draft pick. You have that right. At some point, you have to take a look in the mirror, and tell yourself that taking on the role of the bitter, envious, computer nerd is not the way to go. Houston fans are LUCKY to have Cushing on this team. Regardless of morons like the author, he’s going to continue playing on another level, and continue sacrificing his body for the Texans.
In the meantime, keep posting LIBEL like: “I’d love for him to find other, legal ways to cheat.”
by TheKid87 on Aug 14, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Again.
keep posting LIBEL like
That’s not libelous. Saying you would like for someone to find a way to cheat is not defamatory to anyone because (for one thing) it’s not false. Thus no libel. Why don’t you stick to making conclusory statements about Cushing’s ability and drop the internet lawyer routine?
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 14, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from what I understand
Matt has the “internet lawyer routine” covered.
Except he’s not just an internet lawyer.
And actually knows the meaning of words before using them.
by Jordann on Aug 14, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt is the Dr. Nick of lawyers.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 14, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
HI, EVERYBODY!!!!
Though wouldn’t Lionel Hutz be better?
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 14, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LIONEL HUTZ
ATTORNEY AT LAW
AS SEEN ON TV!
KLondike 5-LAWW
CLOGGING OUR COURTS SINCE 1976
by Jordann on Aug 14, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
This judge has had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog.
Really?
Yes, but replace “accidentally” with “repeatedly” and “dog” with “son.”
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 14, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was
My law school trial partner’s facebook picture for months. And that post brought back painful memories of the public/private figure distinction in defamation from the MBE. I’d be shocked if Rip comes back around.
by JimboTexan on Aug 14, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to BRB
TheKid87.
I guess we can add you to the “Much love for the Kush” list.
by Jordann on Aug 14, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
I’m not here to call anyone names or start trouble, so i apologize if I came off that way
And I’ll drop the legalese… But bashing is bashing (to put it in layman’s terms), and I said what I thought needed to be said
The fact is the kid is our guy, and unless he pees dirty, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt
go texans!
by TheKid87 on Aug 14, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can you please point to a specific line of bashing?
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the entire blog was bashing in my opinion
I read the entire blog entry and I found it extremely offensive. Not from a blind fan perspective, but from a person who knows a lot about the world. Bfd, I’m trying to find reasonable words to decribe how wrong you are to post what you did. I can only liken it to someone feeling angry about what someone did to them. Then that person writes a letter to that person and he says all kinds of bad things about him in that letter.The person signs and seals the letter, but instead of sending it the person has second thoughts and realizes that to send the letter will mean there is no return. Well, your blog was like that. I don’t fault you for thinking it and I don’t fault you for writing it. But I don’t think you should have posted it. That is how I feel about it in the most reasonable way I can say it. Often on these blogs it is so easy for us to get carried away and state an opinion that is outside of normal bounds. I do it, no doubt and there are things I say in the moment that later I want to take back.I’m not apologizing, just trying to get the tone back to a normal decibel. And I’m typing this from my BB so there are probably a few errors and thoughts out of order. Bfd, I just plain didn’t like it and I think you should have tossed it before you posted it, but I don’t think you’re a bad person for thinking it at all. We do need to give the guy some slack and let him play and show us what he’s got. You can print what you want. Can’t stop you. Just am not on board with your angle on this.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 14, 2009 9:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
lets not play games
whether subtle or not, your blog was centered around 2 themes : cheating and brian cushing
whether or not you directly and explicitly linked the two is irrelevant
anyone who knows how to read and explore abstract thought knows that you likened brian cushing to a cheater whose injury is subsequent to years of steroid use
we can be cute and get into semantics all day long, but you know what you meant, and there’s no point sugar coating it now
give the kid a chance dude, don’t crucify him just yet
by TheKid87 on Aug 15, 2009 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
X
You accuse me of libel, yet, you can find no libel.
You accuse me of bashing, yet, you can find no bashing.
I’d ask you to find an example where I crucified him, but I damn well know what the result would be. I wonder if you even read the post.
Unlike Rip, you at least made an attempt to engage, which I appreciate. But I’d like for you to re-read the post and find a specific instance where I said anything negative about Cushing. That there’s a correlation between steroid use and increased risk of injury is not bashing, it’s fact. That there has long been rumors (in fact, if you use Google, the first auto-fill option on google is “brian cushing steroids”) about a link between Cushing and steroids is a fact. Whether or not those rumors are true? Speculation.
As far as giving him a chance, how many times on this blog have I asked him to prove me wrong, but I’m not giving him a chance??? You, yourself, left open the possibility of use in Tim’s post. On my post here, it means I libeled, bashed, and crucified him.
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 15, 2009 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's obvious to anyone reading your post
The only purpose of what you wrote is to conjoin Brian Cushing with cheating. steroids and your personal displeasure in him being drafted, but, you hope you are wrong.
Oh, I left out one reason why you wrote what you wrote…let’s face it, there are a bunch of commenters on this blog that are purely disciples of your’s and they are just lining up to suck your dick; right or wrong, doesn’t matter; what you wrote just revved them up. It was comical to watch. Me and TheKid confronting you about it just revs them up more. I am laughing hysterically at all of you. Fine entertainment.
Tim, the editor, even gave your piece a coup de grace dicksucking to make sure that everyone knew that you can post whatever hairbrain piece of garbage you want to and no one can say anything about it.
I’m am looking forward to your next insane rant about Cushing, steroids, cheating and your displeasure about him being drafted, but, you hope you are wrong; and the following of dicksuckers that will praise you for being so honest and true to the Texans. I can say I am looking forward to it, because that is what I like about you. You never stop with the comments that link Brian Cushing to steroird, cheating and your displeasure that he was drafted, but, you hope you are wrong.
Sometime between now and his first preseason start would be a good time for you to remind us about the link between Brian Cushing, steroids, cheating, and your displeasure that he was drafted, but, you hope you are wrong. You might even be able to get it linked to Yahoo next time with a little forethought.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 15, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's It
I’ve read all of this I’m going to read, and we’re not covering any new ground. All parties have made their point(s).
Thanks to this exchange, you’ve inspired me to re-post the community guidelines on the main page. I would ask that everyone obey them so I can avoid having to take any further action. Thanks.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Aug 15, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
funny
I think Rip Jersey created a new user to post this.
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You and your "Admin rights"
Bastard.
Here’s $20 to keep you from telling everyone that my previous username was FilipinoTrannyWhoMattKnowsAllToWell.
by Shake on Aug 14, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will do, Roberta
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shake!
I mean Shake. So sorry.
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
by bigfatdrunk on Aug 14, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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