Feel Bad For Sage Rosenfels?
Call me nostalgic, but the second thing I thought about after hearing the totally predictable news that Brett Favre had unretired yet again was how Sage Rosenfels was getting the short end of the stick. The first thought that struck me was that no football player since O.J. Simpson has done a more thorough job of transforming himself from savior of the gridiron to widely scorned object of contempt than Favre has. I exaggerate, of course, but I know that I have an infinitely more negative view of Brett Favre now than I did two years ago.
Back to Sage...I feel tremendously bad for the guy. His trade to Minnesota was supposed to be his big break in the NFL, and now it's been completely derailed by Favre. Even worse, Sage looked reasonably effective in his first taste of preseason action.
The argument can certainly be made that Sage has no right to feel like got screwed. He's still making millions for playing a game, Favre may well be a better QB than him in 2009, the Vikings don't owe him anything, and so forth. From a Texans' fan perspective, I can understand the notion that the player who gave us the horror that was the Rosencopter deserves no sympathy.
Yet I still feel for Sage. Am I alone? Vote in the poll below.
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Really
I feel badly for Sage. However, Sage is well compensated for his misery. From Rotoworld:
2/27/2009: Signed a three-year, $9 million contract. The deal included a $1.4 million signing bonus. 2009: $2 million, 2010: $2.6 million, 2011: $3 million, 2012: Free Agent.
I would do a lot of things for that kind of compensation, even compromise my personal integrity. I would even perform some acts that are illegal and/or unethical. As long as it doesn’t require me to root for the Cowboys or Titans.
by kozanack on Aug 18, 2009 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
yep
I’ve done a lot worse for a lot less.
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
by bigfatdrunk on Aug 18, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
plus i heard on espn...
that he’s gettin 3 million guaranteed…
by turnip73 on Aug 19, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still a chance
Favre still has a torn rotator cuff (which is pretty vague and be many things). And remember he is 40+. Sage may just very well get another chance this year.
by sammocyr on Aug 18, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought
he was just 39?
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He turns 40 in October
And Favre may not finish the season, but whatever happens. Sage should get another chance next year, or maybe the year after…..
by distant_texans_fan on Aug 19, 2009 4:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
But only because he’s being replaced by a senior citizen. If they’d traded for Cutler, that’d be one thing. But they just shelled out millions to replace him with a washed-up hack. Like you, my opinion of Favre has changed drastically over the past couple years.
I don’t wish injury upon anybody, but I’d love to see Rosenfels come into a game and show up Favre. Then again, he did that a few times while he was in Houston and our coaching staff refused to give him the starting nod. Maybe there’s something fundamentally wrong with him (beyond helicopter-related debacles).
by Nashmeister on Aug 18, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
The Rosencopter is the single most selfish act I’ve seen in professional sports. I am greatly amused that Farve is damning Sage right back to the backup role where he belongs.
I will never forgive him for that Indy game. No one should.
And then the fans with their “We Want Sage” chants and signs? I hope Sage becomes the afterthought David Carr has.
THANK YOU BRETT FARVE.
by WhiskeyR on Aug 18, 2009 11:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, Whiskey
Could not have said it better.
Fuck him, that piece of shit.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Aug 19, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't fault Sage for the RosenCopter
If the Texans would have benched David Carr during his tenure and handed the ball over to Sage then he wouldn’t have convinced himself that he had to do something spectacular to win over the fans and coaching staff of the Texans. I hate the play, hated the result worse, but the fact remains that the man was giving it his all and just fell flat on his face (in a whirling fashion, LOL). I thought he was the perfect backup but I wish that we would have given him a shot when Carr was here, it was the least we could have done. Playing second fiddle can’t be easy, so while it may have been selfish to an extent I respect the man for giving his all while on the field.
by wasteph on Aug 19, 2009 12:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Texans Would Have Benched Carr In His Final Season For Sage
If Sage hadn’t broken his hand with about three games left in the season. I remember believing Carr getting the hook was a done deal, but the x-rays ruined the possibility.
Interesting to speculate what might’ve happened if Sage hadn’t broken his hand. If he plays well, do the Texans ever trade for Schaub? Would Sage have been named the starter going into the 2007 season, with a rookie QB drafted to groom instead of Okoye?
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Aug 19, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very
scary thought there Tim. Let’s not associate the name Sage and the words “Texans” and “starter” ever again. Reading those words put together sent a shiver down my spine. And not the kind of shiver that I get from watching Super Mario swallow quarterbacks whole.
by Jordann on Aug 20, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't Mexican
A Sudanese co-worker brought in some home cooked stuff. It was fucking tasty.
But it did give me the trots.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 19, 2009 1:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with both WhiskeyR and wasteph
For me, the bottom line is being able to recognize your limitations. Sage tried to be more than that, and it killed us against he Dolts. I can’t blame him for trying, but he’s no more a scrambling QB than I am America’s hottest super model, and I recognize that.
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
by bigfatdrunk on Aug 19, 2009 8:22 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
workin' for the man.......
sage can’t catch a break! first he has to play behind carr, and now favre. and who suffers? the vikings faithful, who bought those lines hook line and sinker. why even act like their is a battle for #1 when you already knew the old guy was coming back? just seems like something a rookie organization would do, not one of the leagues’ oldest teams… im jus saying.
by chrisd21 on Aug 19, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still can’t figure out why the Vikings feel the need to bring in an almost forty year old prima donna, and all his distractions, with a dead arm who always was a little careless with the ball when they have a great running game and a good defense. I still spew hate at the Rosencopter incident, but I’ve always liked the way Sage handled himself in interviews. He generally seems like a good guy who deserves to get his shot.
by papabear on Aug 19, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I'm with wasteph on this.
Sage would be a decent to good quarterback if he played within himself. Given the way that Schaub was playing, and the dedication that the Texans have shown to him, it’s no wonder that Sage thought he had to be Jesus in cleats in order to have a chance to start for the Texans.
What I’m most curious about, is when Sage gets playing time this season, whether it’s because of an injury to Favre, or if he’s just coming in because the game is out of reach, is he going to feel like he has to usurp Favre this season, or will he play conservatively in hopes of establishing himself as the QB for the next couple of years?
by Tailgate Andy on Aug 19, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe This Is Incorrect
But after the season, didn’t Sage say the Rosencopter incident was just one of those things, and that he’d do the same thing again under the circumstances? I’m not even that stubborn.
That said, Sage and Farvre are basically the same QB (except for the ’copter thing). Same gambling mentality.
by kozanack on Aug 19, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this could be a great opportunity for him in some respects...
Yeah it sucks, but he is much more well-versed than Favre with this offense, will have paid his dues with the organization, the fans and will probably look like a savior after Favre leaves, goes down, digs them into a hole or whatever. I don’t pretend to know if Favre has anything to offer back-ups in advice or leadership, but if he does, Sage could probably use it. Favre will probably leave a bad taste in the Vikes mouth..and Sage will be well-positioned to benefit from that ala Aaron Rogers.
It will also set the table for him to succeed by lowering everyone’s expectations of him in Minn. and if he’s patient (just a little while longer) and uses this opportunity, my guess is that he will look fantastic following what will most likely be a Favre sideshow. There will be way less pressure out of the gate as damage control and it must be better to have fans begging to bring you into the game than tallying each initial error against the pick they gave up for you. My prediction is he will shine…and the Favre-chaos will help him do so.
by Smittybaby on Aug 19, 2009 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Advice
I don’t know if Favre’s advice is the best for Sage. He’s known for making crappy crazy throws out fo desperation and just winging it in the heat of a play. Kinda like a Sage play we all know and love. Of course now there is no Donald Driver, Sterling Sharpe, Freeman, etc, etc to save Favre.
by sammocyr on Aug 19, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I found this article that someone posted on a blog.. not sure who wrote it but I like it
For Sage, who was a part-time starter in Houston last year, I would feel somewhat betrayed. After all, the team traded for him, not the other way around. And it was he who started the first preseason game and put up good numbers. And yes, he hurt his ankle, but it’s not a serious injury. So why is the team’s first reaction to renege on their stance regarding Favre? Suddenly that fourth-round pick looks like a huge steal for the Texans, who received the draft choice for a player who might not even play a single snap this year.
by wasteph on Aug 19, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Farve's legacy
I have never been a huge Favre fan but I realize that the man had a golden arm and a love for the game that is hard to match. I don’t have anything against him but at the same time I get tired of all the bs that surrounds Favre. So as far as Sage is concerned it is just part of the business. Everything that I have read has Sage being a professional (like always) and doing his part to get a chance. I don’t think you can ask more of a guy. He failed miserably last year in Houston but before that I thought he was pretty good.
There is an old saying in the NFL… If Jeffrey Dahmer ran a 4.4 Forty, the NFL would say he had an eating disorder. That is the simple truth, that is why so many of these athletes keep getting second chances and why Favre will be able to keep coming back until he just can’t do it anymore.
by wasteph on Aug 19, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
If Jeffrey Dahmer ran a 4.4 Forty....
then Al Davis would be gumbo by now
by Shake on Aug 20, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no...
too bony.
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
by bigfatdrunk on Aug 20, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I was anyone playing for the Vikings
I would feel absolutely betrayed and be extremely skeptical of Brad Childress. He traded for Sage, with the PROMISE of an open QB competition. After the initial Favre recruitment, went and told the media and everyone else that Favre was not his problem, that he was comfortable with the three QB’s he had in camp, and that he was going to go forward with one of them. He then proceeds to call Favre that week (according to Brett’s press conference) to try and persuade him to come play for them. Awesome leadership abilities, Childress.
If I was a player for the Vikings, I would fully understand that Childress is making every move he can to try and keep his job, at the expense of his integrity and the chemistry of the team.
The strong do what they have to do; the weak accept what they have to accept
by Riott on Aug 19, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Re: Childress
Word. The guy is full of it, “I’m just trying to put together the best team I can” drivel be damned. Thing is, from what I can gather, MIN fans are totally fed up with him too, Favre nonsense notwithstanding.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Aug 19, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Childress is the guy bringing in Favre
but is was Vikings exec Rick Spielman behind the Rosenfels trade:
There is already an undercurrent that some veterans aren’t happy the way Favre’s courtship played out. And we’ve yet to hear a peep from Vikings executive Rick Spielman, who engineered the trade for Rosenfels and then had it summarily checkmated by Favre’s arrival.
It will happen
by Rip Jersey on Aug 22, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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