Texans Down 'N Dirty: Camp Is Over Edition
The Texans held the annual team luncheon yesterday, which officially marks the end of Texans training camp. Gary Kubiak gave a good speech in which he stated that he believes wholeheartedly that the team has improved every year. Despite the recent setback in the New Orleans game, I believe that as well.
All eyes will be on Reliant Stadium when Brett Favre and the Vikings come to town on Monday Night. As was stated yesterday, the controversial gunslinger will be playing the entire first half. The Texans have made the preliminary decision to close the roof on Monday night because the heat index is supposed to be 93 degrees at game time. Hopefully all those Texans fans can take advantage and make as much noise as possible, like Arizona did last year during the playoffs.
The Monday night game will be a packed house, but the regular season opener and several other games have not sold out yet and that has some people worried. The Texans have never failed to sell out a home game in their 7 year franchise history, and now is not the time to start when we likely have the best team we have ever had.
One reason for the lack of ticket sales is probably the economy, but another is perception of the team. Some people simply don't want to support a losing team. When writers like Richard Justice are cramming negative crap down their throats every two seconds, it's hard to have positive vibes about the hometown boys.
I understand that Justice feels like he's just being honest, but I find it hard to believe that he thinks the Texans are as bad as he lets on. If I knew nothing about the team and read that article or one of his other tirades, I would swear we were talking about a 3 to 4 win team, not one that has a chance to make the playoffs.
Justice makes some good points, i.e., the fact that 4 out of our 9 all-time first round picks have been spent on defensive linemen, but he doesn't take into account the fact that only two were drafted by the current regime, and one of them was the gutsiest draft decision of the current decade. Also, he cloaks everything in such negativity that he comes off as petty or even as if he simply doesn't like the organization.
I fully admit that I am on the opposite end of the spectrum as Justice in that I probably don't say enough critical things about the team, but I still feel that spending most of your time trashing the team located in the same city as the newspaper you work for is just bad business, unless they give you no choice. I'd be very interested to know what all of your general reactions were to his article.
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All that stuff Dickie is saying about Amobi
…was said about Mario in preseason two years ago. Mario didn’t look great in those preseason games by any stretch of the imagination. Lucky for us, something clicked with him. Amobi may not be the physical freak that Mario is, but he’s still very athletic for his position. It’s entirely conceivable that Amobi could make a similar leap to the one Mario made. It may not happen, but it’s hardly unheard of. Sounds like he’s working hard and really trying to improve. If that is the case, given his physical skills he can be a very effective player in the right system.
As I’ve said elsewhere, both he and Okam are young. Young players are inconsistent. In this sense, the 25 year-old James Casey has a big advantage over those two because he’s more emotionally mature.
Also, you gotta give Dickie some credit. At least he’s finally acknowledged Mario’s greatness. And if I recall correctly, he did right a positive column about the Texans the other day.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 26, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Like alot of criticism lately...
He’s focusing on the insufficient defensive line. While that unit certainly deserves it after their performance last week, I think people are making too much of Okoye’s failures and too little of Kubiak’s and the coaching staff, including Kollar and Bush’s and Kubiak’s choice of Kollar.
When drafted, as Jerome Solomon points out, Okoye was 19 and it will take him until the age of, probably, 24 before he can possibly start to dominate the big boys. He’s a long term project who was drafted highly with the logic of “if he can beat 20, 21 and 22 year-olds in college at the age of 19, imagine what he’ll be able to do at the age of 24 in the NFL” – extreme upside for a team that was planning to spend another 2 to 3 three years rebuilding the right way and had the time to wait. If Okoye still sucks after next season, the Texans may have to go in a different direction, but this is the situation the front office created and said they wanted. The expectation is that, as he matures, he’ll make the big leap that tehGrindCrusher is referring to. It’s a gamble that’ll take some time to evaluate.
While Okoye’s entering his third season in the NFL, Kubiak is entering his fourth as a head coach and, unlike Okoye, he’s had extensive experience in the NFL as a QB and coach for the Broncos. Yet, Kubiak and his staff still don’t seem to show that much improvement in game planning, adjustments, in-game challenges and time management. Before, it was acceptable to say that Kubiak was a new head coach and would need time to learn. I think it’s time to expect more from Kubiak in these areas. As the personnel on the field continues to improve, performance in those coaching areas is going to become more critical as the games become more important. Teams that win the Super Bowl have good coaching. If you want to make the playoffs, much less win in the playoffs, the coaching must be good, and certainly better than Kubiak has shown thus far.
The true test in the life of a Texans fan is how gracefully you endure it.
by TexanKurt on Aug 26, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I watched the Saints' coverage of their preseason game with the Texans
Their announcers repeated referred to Kubiak as “One of the best offensive minded coaches in the NFL”, and at times would marvel at the Texans offense and certain players such as Schaub for their effeciency in moving the ball down field…
The point is, Kubiak is an offensive minded coach, he’s probably never going to be a defensive wizzard. He did however take over a team that could barely move the football and rarely passed for longer than 10 yards into a top 5 offensive team in yards and whose QB has one of the highest yards per attempt in the league. All coaches specialize in different areas, Kubiak has done a pretty remarkable job with the offense really, is he a terrible head coach because he’s not as good on the defensive side of the ball? Personally i’d love to see the Texans’ defense dominate, but if it were to ever happen, it’ll be because of the defensive coordinator not Kubiak.., so why should its failures be soley directed in his direction? Surely you can blame him for not “picking” better coaches, but you could also argue that an offensive minded coach might not know what to look for in a defensive coordinator, as they all come with different schemes and philosophies.
by Bryan72076 on Aug 26, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the announcers
But Kubiak is no longer an offensive coordinator. Hey, the guy took over a 2-14 team and we saw immediate improvement. You certainly won’t hear an argument from me that he should return any of the money he’s been paid. He’s earned it. I’m not calling Kubiak a shitty coach; he has his positives and negatives. The negatives are on defense and in-game coaching. Kubiak is the head coach. He’s responsible for the offensive strategy and the defensive strategy. If he’ll never be good enough to contribute to defensive strategy, that’s a problem. How many offensive coordinators has Bill Belichick lost over the years? The Patriots still produce on the offensive end even though he is a defensive specialist. Guys like Bill Parcells are renowned for their ability to coach the game. Kubiak does not excel there either, much less approach the pantheon of Parcells.
I’ve been saying this for a couple years now. I just think with all the heat some players are taking, he should be feeling it the most. Now’s the time for Kubiak to coach like the big boys.
The true test in the life of a Texans fan is how gracefully you endure it.
by TexanKurt on Aug 26, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got nothing personal against Justice
In fact, the couple of times I’ve had interactions with him, he’s been extremely cordial and engaging. Having said that, he has no journalistic integrity and I rarely, if ever, read his stuff. There’s just no point.
As for Amobi, the age excuse is irrelevant at this point. He needs to be showing something, which he hasn’t. Maybe something clicks for him this year, but it’s looking more and more like he’s just not the guy.
by ~Buck on Aug 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Poop in the Cheerios...
Man, I must’ve seen a different Texans/Saints game than most of you. With words like “embarrassment” and phrases like “a step backward” being thrown about, and Kurt already calling out Kubes for being a shitty coach, I honestly didn’t see too much that concerned me in that one. Granted, the backups and third stringers didn’t have too great a showing, but I wouldn’t even call that an embarrassment. Tap the brakes a bit, gentlemen, and watch with your eyes and not through Pancakes/Justice’s recaps.
I haven’t even read through any of the other posts, but I’m sure I’ll hear more of the same talk.
You guys give me sad-face sometimes.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Aug 26, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Poop in the Cheerios...
Would that be the same thing as Ding-Dongs in the Cheerios?
The true test in the life of a Texans fan is how gracefully you endure it.
by TexanKurt on Aug 26, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree
The only thing I saw in the Saints game that really worried me was the run defense, but it was for 2-3 series (when the first team was actually o the field). I didn’t gt a chance to see the game until yesterday, and I didn’t think it was that terrible besides that aspect. I just think that all of us are expecting/hoping for so much this year that every negative is magnified.
You know... for kids.
by Jake on Aug 26, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What it made me realize...
Is that the media can manipulate perception, by the way they cover an event.
Now, we all saw the same game, and had a few head scratchers here and there, but then you start reading about the “complete failure” and “busts” and “regression” and you take that mindset. The chron completely mindfucks us on the daily. Whether it’s the gushing over the team to the north, or Bud and his team, or badmouthing a fairly well-run franchise’s owner, coaches, and players, it’s insane that Steph is the only thing worth reading in that rag (no offense at all to Steph).
Now, the other side of that is, as some of our blogging friends are reading those things, their perceptions are changing, also. So, all of a sudden, we’re being bombarded with sour talk of a few issues that should be treated as a mild rash, rather than moving straight to appendage removal.
I blame the chron.
Because fuck them, that’s why.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Aug 27, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the right adjustments are made . . .
Then Amobi Okoye and the rest of the Texans defense can succeed. Here’s the way I see it: The Saints were the most prolific offense in the NFL last season, so there is no shame in getting scored on by them. If the Saints offense plays its best ball and the Texans defense plays its best ball, the Saints offense is gonna win. Period. Now what was shameful was how they scored – by cramming the ball down our throats! That is embarassing. Still, you have to assume that Frank Bush game-planned for an aerial attack, but instead got the bulldozer. When you go after the passer with reckless abandon you also tend to leave some running lanes wide open. That’s why the draw play is so successful on third and long. We paid so much respect to the passing game of Brees that the running game became an afterthought. Hopefully in a real game adjustments would have been made at halftime. This was a lesson for Frank Bush, because Indy is capable of doing the exact same thing.
Ultimately, we don’t defend the run very well. Sadly, that’s a fact. A healthy Cushing will help, but only a little. For us to win games we need the lead. We have to force teams to come from behind and throw the ball. I know with our secondary that seems like a scary proposition, but at least that gives Mario a chance to do his thing. If a team can just pound the rock on us all day long we’re in trouble.
by carsonwayne on Aug 26, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
come from behind?
don’t mind if I do…
In Bush’s defense, normally, there’s not much “game planning” for the second preseason game. I see the point, though.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Aug 27, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see the issue with the Justice article
He spoke the truth. He listed some facts about draft choices, contracts, playing time and all of them were right on the money. He said Okoye has not performed to the level expected of the 10th pick of a draft, true. The team should be concerned. I am sure Okoye is not swimming under anyone’s radar. But what are the options? Cut him? No. Bench him? if there was someone better. This season, the team will have to play him, continue to coach him and compensate for his weaknesses, as they had to do last year. Maybe he will respond and maybe he won’t. Come the end of this season, if Okoye does not produce and it costs the team wins then their options will be to find a replacement through the draft, a trade or free agency. Those are the facts. That is the situation. I am a spectator in all of this, as is everyone here, including Justice, who will read this and wonder why I am not hanging him. Okoye is a member of the Texans and we are stuck with him. The team is stuck with him. If he doesn’t improve he will become the butt of much criticism on Texans sportsblogs. If the team wins and goes to the playoffs, because of Okoye or in spite of Okoye, we will all be watching and hoping for the best. I think the consensus is that he is a detriment the way he is playing now. Defense is a team effort and doesn’t fall on one player. When Mike Bell gets 10 or 20 yards, we can’t just point the finger at Okoye. It takes eleven!
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by Rip Jersey on Aug 26, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The point is
we have a team that has shown dramatic improvement over the last few years. Support ‘em! Talking about their weaknesses is fine, but why harp on them instead of tryin’ to bring some excitement? Have a little faith, would ‘ya?
Look at it this way, the are a lot more exciting to watch nowadays compared to when they packing up to leave town. I was an Oilers fan since I was like 5 (I’m 40 now), I’m so amped that we have the Texans now! They have such promise now – a short history – but a promise of great things to come. The last thing we need is the LOCAL press baggin’ on ’em.
by drunk dog on Aug 26, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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