Vikings 17, Texans 10
by Tim on Aug 31, 2009 11:17 PM CDT
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Final stats here. Much more on this tomorrow, but four quick thoughts:
1. For the love of all that is decent and holy, please pay DeMeco Ryans, Rick Smith.2. If Brett Favre blows out a knee, shoulder, or any other body part(s) this season, there will be absolutely no sympathy for him in Houston after that chicken fecal matter "block" he put on Eugene Wilson.
3. First play from scrimmage aside, the run defense didn't look as bad as it did against New Orleans.
4. It'd be a real treat if the Texans secondary stopped trying to make tackles with their shoulders. God gave us arms for a reason (though exclusively using one's arms to try to bring Adrian Peterson down is counterproductive).
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Take away the AP TD
The Vikings still had 105 rushing yards. So yeah, better than against the Saints, but not significantly better.
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Aug 31, 2009 11:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely Not Good
But better than the steaming pile of poop we saw against the Saints. The Texans gave up 120+ yards on the ground per game last year so, minus the horrific run by Peterson, this would have been a huge improvement.
Of course, if my aunt had a unit, she’d be my uncle.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Aug 31, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s true, but those 105 yards came on 25 carries, which according to my calculator works out to 3.6 YPC. That isn’t stellar but it’s not terrible either, especially considering they were playing against Adrian Peterson.
by cubic on Sep 1, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My calculations netted the Vikes as having 135 yards, divided by those 29 carries coming out to be 4.65 YPC. I dunno where you got 105 from. Must’ve missed somebody’s rushing or something.
by Frost on Sep 2, 2009 6:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to the stat sheet
The Vikes had 180 rushing yards on 30 carries. If you take away AP’s 75 yard touchdown run, that leaves you with 105 yards on 29 carries, no? Admittedly I could be misreading the stat sheet but I don’t think I am. How are you getting to 135 yards?
by cubic on Sep 2, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adding up the yardage totals from Yahoo!’s game recap page.
Peterson: (-75 yards) 42 yards on 10 carries
Taylor: 30 yards on 7 Carries
Smith: 49 yards on 6 Carries
Young: 11 yards on 2 Carries
Harvin: 6 yards on 2 Carries
Johnson: -3 yards on 1 Carry
= 135.
by Frost on Sep 2, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The nfl.com stat sheet has Smith going 25 yards on four attempts, and also has Rosenfels on -6 yards in three attempts. That is a weird discrepancy. And I just did the numbers manually and nfl.com’s stat sheet does come out to 105 yards on 29 carries. Weird.
by cubic on Sep 2, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take into account a lot of things
The only real thing that stopped Minnesota was penalities and a lot of them. Farve had a wide open touchdown to a rookie dropped because he was held and no call. Slaton’s first carry was a fumble and we got away with it. The first string offense had problems against their backups. Farve played better than Schawb who has practiced with the same team and been there all pre-season. You can go on and on. Like the man said the offense failed to score in the redzone 13 times last season. That was the worst in the NFL. Slaton saved us on a 2 yard run.
Coverage sacks on a 40 year old guy with cracked ribs looks great. Ryans was the guy covering the back on the screen play that got smoked. He was also out of postion on the Peterson run. He saved a lot of plays making tackles he should not have had to make. To put it best thank God Peterson was not in the game after halftime. The defense held them due to all the multiple misques the Vikings had trying to get use to Farve. When Farve had no penalities he kept them guessing and his rust missed wide open WR’s behind the Texans secondary all night. The Texans again were playing at home on their field against a guy who took three snaps coming in. If Farve was use to the offense and Percy was not a rookie they would have put up 50 or more.
The first round draft pick at DT we just traded for a number five or sixth rounder is just icing on the cake. How many draft picks and seasons do you need? Atlanta with a rookie QB and coach went 11 and 5. Miami went 11-5 after almost losing every game. Flacco as a rookie did better. The excuses are getting old. So is losing to a 40 year old who looked younger than the injury prone hope of the Texans. How may bombs are you going to try late in the game to Johnson against the backups and fail? All the hits the QB took was also terrible. Maybe somebody will get smart and start using number ones on QB’s since they are tackling dummies behind that line.
The bull needs to be put down and get some people involved who can get it done. You have more effort and talent picking the Texan cheerleaders. You ever notice the Pittsburg Steelers don’t have any?
This is no where close to a playoff team. The first part of their schedule will save them. The second half they may win one or two games total. They will be lucky to make 8 and 8. They had to win six of eight to get to 500 last year. It is time to get a QB. Where is Cushing? He and Schwab are known for injuries. Someone needs to wake up and help Mario and Ryan.
by degojoe on Sep 1, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The first two paragraphs of this post were great
Then it just spiraled into knee-jerk negative-nancyism with that great hallmark of such an approach: blame the entire result of the team’s play on the QB!
You knock coverage sacks like they’re a bad thing; the biggest problem this team has is in the secondary, so coverage sacks are a good thing in my book. It means no one was open! Anyone with half a brain could see that Mario was changing his residence to “Minnesota backfield” last night as well.
Part of the Vikings miscues can be blamed on the home crowd (it was loud) and the Texans’ defense after Bush started blitzing more. I don’t deny that some of it was due to unfamiliarity between Favre and his linemen, though. I don’t think you can honestly argue that ALL of it was that, though.
Miami went 11-5 against a ridiculously easy schedule. Atlanta also had an easy schedule; the league deliberately hands out an easy schedule to teams with poor records the previous season. Flacco’s rookie season was in a smoke and mirrors offense, with absurdly stacked lines and a huge disparity in the run/pass balance. He still didn’t do all that great. Again, you attribute too much of the success or failure of a team to the QB. Baltimore’s success was due to a great defense and a universally respected offensive coordinator who knew his rookie QB’s limitations and worked around it, not because Flacco is the second-coming of Dan Marino and that it’s as easy as just drafting a QB in the first round (have you heard of David Carr?)
What does “Maybe somebody will get smart and start using number ones on QB’s since they are tackling dummies behind that line” mean? Use a first-round draft pick on a QB to solve… the line’s protection problems? Huh? Minnesota’s defensive line is probably the best in the league, or second-best to the Giants; while you’d like to not allow any pressure from any defense, getting pressured by Minnesota isn’t horrible, and I think Schaub did OK (other than tweaking his ankle) under the circumstances.
I’m not sure what cheerleaders have to do with anything. Hey, even your boys in Miami have cheerleaders!
One of the biggest problems I saw was the tackling; it was absolutely horrible.
by socctty on Sep 1, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I applaud you...
For even reading that steaming pile post. I couldn’t get past the first four sentences or so.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Sep 2, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've started reading...
the author of any long comment before I waste time with the substance. Sounds like that plan did me well this time.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Sep 2, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Despite the fact that I agree with a fair amount of what's said here
This is a comment better left on Pancakes’ blog at the chron.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 2, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not your comment socctty.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 2, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God dammit, Tim
Ad on the home page right now for Dallas Cowboys tickets!
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Sep 1, 2009 12:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was at game
Came 14:45 into the 1st, down 7-0…missed the AP TD…Otherwise i thought run defense did pretty well…to many missed tackles tho in general…Favres hit was completly bush…also demeco had a hell of a game…
Nice atmosphere
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Sep 1, 2009 12:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DeMeco was playing out of his mind
If Cushing comes in and plays half that well, we’ll be set at LB.
My biggest concern is still strong safety. Ferguson might not be the best athlete, but he’s still the best option we have. Barber and Harrison both look completely lost on every single play, and we’re going to give up 75-yard TDs all year long if those two are anywhere near the field.
by Nashmeister on Sep 1, 2009 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
But Eugene Wilson deserves some sort of award for his play on Taylor.
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
by bigfatdrunk on Sep 1, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adibi
I’m fairly certain the 75 yd AP run was squarely on Xman, as he over pursued and missed the gaping hole AP so adequately ran through, really fast. That said, you’d have thought a safety could’ve negated about 50 of those yards with a tackle or force out. AP’s a special sumbitch though.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Sep 1, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barber did one good thing
when he broke that screen play up.
and that’s all I remember him doing besides missing tackles and blowing coverages.
by Jordann on Sep 1, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeMeco A man amongst boys.
DeMeco and Mario are the only quality starters on the defense. I was outraged at the roughing the farve penalty, he got hit while the ball was still in his hand. That isn’t roughing by any stretch of the imagination. Meanwhile Vikings are kicking Pitts while he is down on the turf. And Farve is cheap shotting peoples knees with no consequences. If there is any Karma Farve will suffer a carrear ending injury trying to squeeze into his wrangler jeans tonight.
by CFHTim on Sep 1, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I liked the feel of this game much better than the last one because
although we had some notable lapses on D, and tackled very poorly at times, we played very good rush D against a very good Vikes team for most of the 1st half. Yes the 1st play (75 yd TD run by AP) was a terrible deja vu of the entire Saints game, but we stopped them for 3 yds or less on quite a few plays after that. We had some pressure on the QB, although not real consistent. The Mario sack of Favre was a coverage sack, yes we actually covered some receivers, although again not with the desired consistency.
Offense showed flashes, but the line play was not great. Too much pressure on Schaub, and almost no running game against the Vikes 1st string. They are, however, one of the best rushing D’s in the league.
All in all, this game gave me reason for hope, while at the same time showed we have miles to go before we can claim to be a playoff contender. No serious injuries tonight was a good thing. Schaub, Coke Machine and Wilson had minor dings.
Almost forgot. We should have made Favre pay for that ridiculous cheap shot on Wilson. Refs threw a flag, but he deserved a hit for that crap.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Sep 1, 2009 12:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mario's sack...
If you watch closely, Antonio Smith swatted and hit the ball, while Favre was looking to get rid of it. The hit made him re-grip, when he would’ve normally gunned it somewhere. This gave Mario just enough time to get into his legs, where he went down. Granted, coverage had to be a factor, but I would say it was the combination of that and pressure from the line.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Sep 1, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah beefy, you are absolutely correct
I did not see that until I saw the replays on ESPN the next day and reminds me of a pet peeve with the replay scoreboards at Reliant. Sometime last season (I think) after a Mario sack the stadium scoreboard shows an inane (Super Mario Bros) cartoon instead of the actual play. Sometimes there is enough time to sneak in the replay of the actual game play, but they ALWAYS show the freakin’ cartoon first. I know I can’t be the only fan that is fed up with seeing that nonsense. We already get shorted many replays that are shown on TV, and that cartoon crap has got to go.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Sep 2, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey...
What’s wrong with cartoons?
The true test in the life of a Texans fan is how gracefully you endure it.
by TexanKurt on Sep 2, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TK, I seriously hope that is a reference to Yosemite Sam
because every time I see a cartoon after a Mario sack, I get seriously irked. As for loony tunes on the tube, nothing wrong at all. Time and place.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Sep 2, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the feel of this game much better
because I was already drunk before I went in the stadium and I didn’t have to buy any of that 7 dollar beer. Had enough in the tank to keep me drunk and yell “Fuck Jared Allen” for most of the first half.
by Jordann on Sep 1, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always a good policy to top off the tank before going thru the turnstile
Heard an interview with Texans president Jamie (sp?) Roots on Monday and he was defending the 20 oz beer cup that was snuck out unannounced at the Saints game. Said they would use the 24 oz cups at the Vikes game, and was talking about reviewing the pricing to see if they could (afford to) keep it at the current level. He says on one hand they want to work with the fans on concession prices, but since when is $7.75 for 20-24 oz of Miller/Bud/Coors not price gouging? The cheap $5 beers they have talked about are in 12 oz cups, and therefore more expensive per ounce than the $8 beers. There are special booths set up for their $5 meal combos; coke with either popcorn, hot dog or something else; but at the main concession stand, I paid $15.50 for burger, fries & a large coke. That is not cheap on any scale. They could charge half of that and still have a nice profit margin. It’s unfortunately all about the almighty $.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Sep 2, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aside from piss-poor tackling and AP's run
I actually was kind of encouraged by the defense. I feel like bad tackling and overpursuit are problems that are much more easily remedied than, say, Richard Smith’s bafflingly soft scheme and complete inability to utilize his good players in a way that allowed them to contribute much. Am I being overly optimistic on this?
The offensive unit, on the other hand, really looks like it’s taken a step back. That is kind of worrisome.
by cubic on Sep 1, 2009 12:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're not overly optimistic
that was some of the worst tackling I’ve seen out of them this year. A “Hell Week” practice would probably tune them up on that front. The D does play better when they’re pissed it seems, maybe someone should bitch slap ‘em BEFORE the game – not me of course, I’m not the suicide type.
by drunk dog on Sep 1, 2009 4:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They do.
Especially after that illegal block thrown by Favre. He wouldve been ripped to shreds if Mario or Demeco got through the Oline.
by Jordann on Sep 1, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre is in the Wu Tang Clan?
cuz he’s one Ol Dirty Bastard!
by chrisd21 on Sep 1, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as Schaub can play week one.
This week was a success. That was scary though in terms of injury.
by DoomsdayD75 on Sep 1, 2009 12:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They get an F
Sorry, but you don’t get a passing grade unless you win.
Schaub played his worst game of the pre-season, and I’m sure it’s because Minnesota is the best defense he’s faced. His ankle injury is just one more reason why the Texans are a longshot to make the playoffs. If he can’t start AND finish a minimum of 14 games they might not get that first winning season.
OK, enough doom & gloom. Other than the big Peterson run, the defense wasn’t too bad. Of course you can’t take away that run, but that did seem to wake them up. I don’t know about Brian Cushing, but it looks like we really could use some Dunta Robinson back on the field. Maybe he’s just a good luck charm.
Nice sack by Mario Williams
Nice tipped pass by Connor Barwin
Big hit by Mr. DeMeco Ryans
AJ did his thing
OD did his thing
Amobi got blown up in the run game, but did pressure Favre a couple of times
The Saints and the Vikings could very well be playing in the NFC Championship game, so they’ve been stern tests, but these were both home games. You gotta win the battles on your field.
by carsonwayne on Sep 1, 2009 1:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Schaub...
If this was a regular season game, he MIGHT’VE missed one series, while they re-taped him. Ankles get sprained… that’s what they do.
The offense kept getting pinned deep, that it would be difficult for anyone to do much, but granted, it did take them a little while to show a semblance of continuity. The turnover really sucked too.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Sep 1, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're forgetting.....
The monster hit that Brice McCain put on one of the receivers (couldn’t read the guys jersey. nosebleed section + a belly full of shiner = very blurred vision)
There was also that pass play where Adibi was playing zone and tipped the pass to break the play up.
How about Slaton pounding it in the endzone? We never saw a lot of those last year. Im glad the extra weight he put on is paying off.
by Jordann on Sep 1, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
forgot to add
that laser throw by schaub that was too low but apostrophe still caught, with one hand! that play was amazingggg
by Jordann on Sep 1, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That game came down to two plays.
1. AP’s 75 yard TD run….ok nothing we can do abut that.
2. HORRIBLE roughing the passer call on Adibi which kept the drive alive for the Vikings and led to a score. There was ABSOLUTLEY NO WAY that was roughing the passer.
Welcome to the NFL…..
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Sep 1, 2009 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
add a play.......
the bomb to Dre would have been huge in the third… i hate to say it… but Jaworski was right, Dre’ let up coming out of that double move, i guess he didnt think Dan-O had that rocket of an arm…. but still, if Shaubby is good, Leach is good, we get Dante’ and Cush back, i like our chances. i still think we are a better than 500 club, even with “glass joe” starting at QB.
by chrisd21 on Sep 1, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
if he tears out of the double-move, it was 6.
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
by bigfatdrunk on Sep 1, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
by bigfatdrunk on Sep 1, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1... 2....
i see shit like that with my 3rd eye.
by chrisd21 on Sep 1, 2009 6:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Were we watching the same game?
The apologists will say:
1. It’s only the preseason…
2. If you take away the first run…
3. Injuries happen, man…
4. I project the Vikings will win the Super Bowl, so…
5. If they had just made that play…
(choke) nothing to worry about.
I say:
1. It was the preseason for the Vikings too. They had a lot more to prove, too, as a team that made the playoffs last year.
2. You can’t take away the first run. In fact, if that had been a real game, rather than go away from running AD up the middle so Favre could get some work in, you’d have seen the first play over and over again. If these teams met in the regular season, it would have been a debacle. Like I said in an earlier post last week, if the Texans don’t fix their defensive tackle performace it’ll “be All Day in one play” (see, it rhymes and everything). It was cool of the Vikings to go easy on the Texans last night.
3. Matt Schaub can’t even run out of bounds without coming up lame. That was sad to watch. There just doesn’t seem to be any way the guy will make it through a season. See that guy Orlovsky. Welcome, starting quarterback. Hello, interceptions.
4. Please tell me the future of the U.S. economy while you’re at it.
5. They didn’t make that play.
I saw a piss-poor defense getting beaten by a 40 year-old QB with a broken rib who’s been on the team for a couple of weeks. I saw an offense that started poorly like last year, doing nothing in the first quarter and a half. Schaub, he of the mighty left ankle, was the best running back on the team. The bright spot: they were able to run the ball the one time they were in touchdown range.
The true test in the life of a Texans fan is how gracefully you endure it.
by TexanKurt on Sep 1, 2009 9:37 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Schaub's injury...
I’ve actually seen a shit ton of ankle/knee/leg injuries that happen when guys are trying to slow down on the sidelines, when it gets to the “track” portion. Why in the hell is that shit even there??
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Sep 1, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because they're the Houston Titans
Ask Chris Carter.
The true test in the life of a Texans fan is how gracefully you endure it.
by TexanKurt on Sep 1, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I remember hearing that. Chris Carter dropped the ball on that one. He was looking right in the camera when he said it, which made it all that more memorable.
‘And the wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws’.
by SippyCup on Sep 2, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. If they had more to prove, then they wanted it more. No big deal, its the pre-season.
2. Agreed. We sucked on that play. We didn’t suck after that play. Either way, you don’t take it away, but the beauty of the pre-season is, it doesn’t freakin count.
3. Agreed, sad to watch. I looked harder at Orlovsky after this, and I liked what I saw. I think he has talent, but makes poor decisions. I’d take good decisions/less talent over good talent/poor decisions, but he appears to be a solid BACKUP. Hopefully thats where he stays.
4. This time last year I said we were competitive against the middle of the road teams, but don’t belong on the field against the upper echelon teams. I think we didn’t belong on the field with them on play 1. Same as last year. Plays 2-30 I think we competed. So take the whole first half, we played well offensively and defensively against an upper echelon team. We were in a position to compete in the second half, and we had the momentum and the ball.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Sep 1, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The preseason card...
You played that one twice. I was joking/being facetious about the Vikings wanting it more. We won’t be able to play the preseason card argument in a few weeks, so prepare for the adjustment! We’ll need some new excuses to manufacture some hope if the Texans keep this shit up.
If only Kubiak had thrown the mulligan flag on the first play, the Texans would have dominated! What, the NFL hasn’t handed out any mulligan flags yet? Perhaps Frank Bush should file a petition!
The true test in the life of a Texans fan is how gracefully you endure it.
by TexanKurt on Sep 1, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and if we lose playing like that when it counts
then panic.
We sucked on that play. But we get a mulligan. The game did not count.
No matter how much you want it to.
It doesn’t take an adjustment to go from pre-season (does not count) to regular season (counts). If we were AWESOME in all four pre-season games and were 4-0 are you saying we wouldn’t have to manufacture HOPE for the upcoming season? Or does the pre-season only count in your mind if we suck?
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Sep 1, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Panic??? Who's panicking?
I won’t be panicking at any point this season. You just have to learn to appreciate the cycle.
First, they suck in the preseason – maybe they win, maybe they lose, but in the preseason it’s all about how you play the game (i.e. make tackles, stop the run, not get injured, etc.). Certainly, no one with the Texans best interests at heart wants the game to count given that they lost. Geez. But don’t worry, the game doesn’t count: it’s preseason! Then the regular season starts. The Texans make a reasonable showing against some cupcake teams or blow it big time if the opening schedule’s hard, people start to worry because they should’ve done better. Then, the meat of the schedule against the Colts and Titans hits. Losses. The people start calling for the coach’s head. The Texans win a few meaningless games at the end. “Well, maybe next year and another draft will get us there.” It’s a cycle to manufacture hope with endless excuses until it’s clear the Texans aren’t making the playoffs. The mulligans don’t stop when the regular season ends either. Countless people post with their wishlist of plays that could be undone. There are bloggers who act like counselors, preaching an even frame of mind and forgiveness about crediting the Texans with the good things they did during the game, even if they lost mostly due to the bad things.
I’m just saying if the Texans lose playing like that when it counts, don’t panic. Embrace the cycle, texanphil! Embrace the cycle! You don’t have to manufacture hope for the upcoming season, resulting in panic. Hopefully, the Texans will break this cycle, but it sure does look awfully familiar thus far this season.
The true test in the life of a Texans fan is how gracefully you endure it.
by TexanKurt on Sep 1, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2006
3-1 in the pre-season, our only loss was 17-14. Then we lose our first 3 games. There’s no correlation, and we didn’t get to take those wins into the season.
Hope is the only thing we have, and we only have it during this time of year. Its not blind hope, its hope that the vicious cycle you describe WON’T happen again this year.
I agree that we’ve been in that cycle for all of our existence, but optimism is not the enemy, especially optimism approaching game 1.
This is Bush’s first rodeo at the helm of an NFL defense, so hopefully he’s learning and adjusting as we speak. Maybe blowing assignments and having the wrong guys out there is good to get out of the way,… when it doesn’t count.
I see we share the creativity in picking usernames. I got the first round when I’m back in town, and we’ll toast to ending the cycle!
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Sep 1, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Jones
have already started that movement.
by Jordann on Sep 1, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rec'd this post
But Orlovsky wasn’t an interception machine in Detroit, I would say. Room for disagreement on this, though.
by socctty on Sep 1, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, this coming from a Vikings fan, I don’t think the Vikings let up on you guys at all. I mean Peterson had 11 carries. In one half. That’s a regular season workload. Keeping that pace up, he’d have finished around 25 carries in the game, which is pretty substantial.
by Frost on Sep 2, 2009 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Yes, he did say that. I almost threw an empty beer bottle at the TV.
by 5stringJeff on Sep 1, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Four letter word
And no one noticed enough to even correct him. ESPN is as worthless as lifetime in my eyes.
by CFHTim on Sep 1, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Carter said that...
During the halftime commentary: “the Houston Titans…” (I was too annoyed to hear the rest of what he said)
The true test in the life of a Texans fan is how gracefully you endure it.
by TexanKurt on Sep 1, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it possible
our new agressive pressuring style is hurting the run, and the read and react from last year was better against the run?
Cuz its apparent to me that our pass D is much improved, as well as pressuring the QB (probably go hand in hand), and our rush D is much worse.
I agree you can’t take away the AP run and make comparisons. After that blown play, however, we did stop that same dude, with all their starters, on a lot of plays. Seems to be a Kubiak trend, start horrible, and then battle back to even.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Sep 1, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is to some degree
A natural feature of playing with undersized nose tackles. If Okam ever gets it, we’ll be a lot better against the run.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 1, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we may have more success against Indy
but the Titans may destroy us on the ground.
Ugh.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Sep 1, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orlovsky v. Rosenfels
Looks to be about even, so given the Rosencopter, I’d say we got a steal of a deal. I think we got McCain in that deal, right?
+1 for Smith.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Sep 1, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nope
we got a 4th rounder i believe which was either quin or anthony hill…dunno which one
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Sep 1, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just looked at the Schaub highlights
focusing on Duane Brown and I have to say I was impressed. He did very well against a very good pass rusher. He deserves a lot of credit for the Slaton td because he ran Allen out of the play and opened a gap.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 1, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but he didn't hurt Allen on the play
so he should be fined.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Sep 1, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 1, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geeze. Bitter much? Put that hit on a QB other than Schaub and I bet you they would have been able to finish playing. I mean, the guy tweaks his ankle just running out of bounds….
by Frost on Sep 2, 2009 6:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Singular?
There were two hits (and a near miss third), all of which were aimed right at Schaub’s knee. Allen and the fans can defend it all they want, but he was out there trying to hurt Schaub. Which he did, by hitting him in the knee after the play was over and Schaub was flat-footed. You’re nuts if you think that wouldn’t have injured the overwhelming majority of QBs.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Sep 2, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fundamentals
Learn how to tackle. I mean TACKLE. It was frustrating seeing a Texan hit Peterson or Taylor at the line of scrimmage, only to let them gain 3 or 4 yards.
And pay DeMeco. Please do NOT let him ever leave the city of Houston.
by 3P on Sep 1, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Our defensive backs had that problem last year as well.
They should really be wrapping players up, considering they are generally giving up 20 lbs on them.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 1, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah ha!
and dante’ proves his worth without ever stepping on da field. pay da man shirley…..
by chrisd21 on Sep 1, 2009 6:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Generally speaking
If you’re counting on your corner back to be your best tackler, you’re in trouble.
And…
Fuck Dunta.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 2, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
we still talking bout ONLY the secondary right? cuz if so, yes, i do expect 4 that corner be the best tackler. corners turn the play back inside so the linebackers can finish off the play. nobody gets off blocks better than him; and none of our corners EVER played more physical, healthy or not. or put it like this…. there is no 75 yd TD if he’s in that game.
by chrisd21 on Sep 2, 2009 7:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming he's playing like he did two years ago
Which there is no evidence to suggest that he would have.
But more to the point, my comment was intended as a diss on how poorly the rest of our team tackled (besides DeMeco, natch).
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 2, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true.
and preseason or not, if you have guys not willing to put a hat on someone, that’s a major problem, and that’s why the general consensus around the league is that our guys are talented, but sweet and fluffy like cakes…… (except for mario and demeco)
by chrisd21 on Sep 2, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's my boy!!
Fuck Dunta indeed. I’ve already forgotten about him.
Pissing on the ashes…
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Sep 2, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your ideas intrigue me
and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Sep 2, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Run
It was one play that got overrun, which left a gaping hole.
Mario saw it and called it out postgame. Demeco saw it and called it out postgame. Kubes saw it and called it out postgame.
Obviously, they caught it, and fixed it fairly well. Let’s stop listening to the Chron and national media for a second, and see what’s in front of us.
Honestly, that one play may be the best thing that happened to us last night, and possibly for the whole season.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Sep 1, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The Texans...
are just trying to bait the media and all the haters in to thinking they’re the same as they ever were. :)
Seriously, I know they will have stinky shit games, but if they play every game like they played Monday, we will see a winning season.
I do my best the voice confidence of a qualitiy Texans team, because I’m surrounded by “fans” of other teams, but deep down I worry alot and hope to be surprised. The oilers made me this way I think.
GO TEXANS!!!!
This is the year.......
by Texanmaniac on Sep 2, 2009 4:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
heh
Rope-a-dope?
Note to self: Insert something witty here.
by bigfatdrunk on Sep 2, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or a variation!
honestly, my thinking is this. usually week to week, you “gameplan” for that specific team, i.e, had this been a regular season game, the defense would have been focused on plays to stop peterson, and we would have been more in tune with the game, knowing their strengths and weaknesses, which is what that week is all about. now, considering this is pre season, i dont feel that they do that, instead, i think they focus more on technique, as opposed to stopping a main guy, or guys. it’s just a vanilla cover 2 package, with the premium on guys just going out and making plays. i have to believe that once we get a firm gameplan for whoever we play, it will allow our guys to focus, and we will be a better d because of it. now as far as all the arm tackles and whiffs, that’s technique, and that needs to be corrected IMMEDIATELY. no excuses about that, starters or no starters, everyone should be flying to the ball, laying people out. period.
by chrisd21 on Sep 2, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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