"Fred Bennett is killing us" and "Fred Bennett is worse than Petey"
Over the past few hours of catching up on all the reactions that I missed whilst sleeping off a vicious Cougs-related hangover, the one thing that rang hollow to me about the many scathing tantrums on our defense is the blame for Fred Bennett. Let me start out by saying that I've been a game charter for Football Outsiders for two years going on three, and I know we don't exactly have the best reputation with this stuff after Bennett was dubbed the next great hope for the Texans secondary and spent much of last year being pedestrian. I'm also going to caution that I haven't re-watched this game a single time yet, since we don't get our little sheets to fill in until after the Monday night game. That said, I want to quash a few things and go over a few points:
-"Fred Bennett is worse than Petey" is an absolutely incomprehensible argument. DeMarcus Faggins was giving up a long touchdown or touchdown setup catch in almost every single game he played in, even though he was often used as a nickel back. Meanwhile, Fred Bennett gave up 6 catches at a 13.5 ypc clip to Mike Sims-Walker (simplifying, of course, since we haven't broken the tape down yet) as a starting second defensive back. These are completely different situations. I won't bludgeon this point too much because everyone gets overly emotional and attached to the last game's performance, and I expect some hyperbole. But Bennett's performance, circumstantially, wasn't even that bad. Which leads us to...
-"Fred Bennett is killing us" is something that requires a deeper breakdown. Was Bennett's "man" involved in a lot of first down plays? Maybe. Did he miss a tackle or two? Absolutely. But there is a lot more to it than that. Let me channel my inner Kevin Nealon for this one...
Our new (crappy) defensive scheme is run by Frank Bush (idiot), who prefers a more aggressive (masochistic) defense. This scheme often sends 5-7 players (gang bang) right at the quarterback (pound him!), which is great except that everyone (me and your mom) can see it coming (me and your mom) and it leads to a checkdown route (better girls were busy). Because our blitzers take forever to get there (me too), and the coverage was read incredibly easily (your mom), Fred Bennett and his fellow defensive backs that didn't charge the ball immediately (your...sister) are usually in a deep zone (too easy) and give up underneath completions (condoms) to avoid touchdowns (pregnancy).
There isn't a cornerback in the NFL who would thrive under that setup. In my charting experience thus far this year, when the Texans do have someone in a short zone on the blitz, it's usually a DL who has pulled back as part of a zone blitz, and that DL is often Mario Williams because Frank Bush is an idiot. And when they don't blitz? It's usually that same Richard Smith stuff you all remember and love, zone coverage with the front four rushing. Which, somewhat surprisingly to Frank Bush I'm sure, still doesn't work. Particularly when half the players in the scheme can't defend a pass to save their lives.
If you wanted to know the difference between this defensive scheme and say, Rex Ryan's Jets schemes from Week 1, it's all about complexity. We are a few solid players in the front seven from matching their personnel, but we have a DL who demands double teams and we have playmaking linebackers. Part of the difference is that the 3-4, IMO, is easier to blitz from because you have less of a clue where the rushers are coming from when you only have 3 down linemen. But the bigger difference is that the schemes don't take too much undue risk while still creating matchup problems, and they are deeper than "lets rush the cornerback". Ryan's schemes involved tactically exploiting the worst pass protectors on the line (Chris Myers and Duane Brown) by sending multiple men at the same spot, which often left Eric Winston blocking invisible robots. By doing this, he got pass pressure with fewer players than the Texans are using to get no pass pressure at all. The Texans have run only one wrinkle blitz all year that I've charted: when they sent Xavier Adibi on a delayed blitz on Mark Sanchez. Result: Incompletion. Most of Bush's blitzes are strictly Green Eggs & Ham level of simplicity. See quarterback, get quarterback.
So as easy as it is to watch the game film and see Fred Bennett next to a player on a complete pass and say "Fred Bennett is klling us," there really is a lot more to it than that. Fred Bennett is mostly still playing zone and most of those zones are deep. I'm not saying Fred Bennett had the game of his life, or even that he's been good so far this season, but he's managed to keep his men in front of him and is doing an acceptable job; hardly "off the charts bad" as bfd put it. In fact, I think the high expectations placed on him are dragging down his perceived performance simply because he was once thought of so highly. That Fred Bennett isn't coming back, he was someone who couldn't hold up to the film study. Accept that he's a credible NFL corner instead of a star, and these results aren't really that out of line.
And no, he is not "killing us". After the two hugest problems: the massive NT/SS holes and a defensive scheme that makes the Wildcat look like the West Coast offense in terms of big-play potential, Bennett might come in around 7th or 8th on the list of defensive worries. Somewhere between "Somebody wake Amobi Okoye up and tell him he's allowed to play a whole half now" and "Brian Cushing is a two down linebacker". To say that Bennett is the thing between us and a good defense is like saying that the biggest problem with public schools today is that you aren't allowed to pray in class. Speaking of praying, it's the only thing that's going to keep teams out of the end zone against the Texans until one of those two big problems are fixed.
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I love being put in my place by a good, thoughtful argument. When I re-watch the game, I’ll keep this in mind. I DO know FO gave Bennett not so good grades last year, too, so the argument is becoming somewhat chicken and the egg: scheme or suck.
Also, I noticed we were dropping Barwin into coverage more often instead of Mario. You’ll know more from the charting, though.
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We're years from it not being chicken-egg on defense.
Coaches film, and then also even knowing the scheme you can never be positive about moves. I don’t think Bennett was THAT bad last year either.
Dropping Barwin is also a disgrace in my mind. You blitz with your pass rushers. Drop the NT into coverage.
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by riversmccown on Sep 28, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that the blitzing schemes are TOO simplified. Its one thing to dumb it down a bit so all your players know where they are supposed to be, but its another to dumb it down so much the offense can read exactly what you are going to do and exploit it. We need to have more fluid movement from the linebackers and more safety blitzes.
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disagree....
on that point. i watched the game a couple of times… and the thing that sticks out the most is the fact that Fred missed not just tackles, but 3rd down tackles. that more than anything, speaks to the player not being aware of the situation. besides the fact that his feet was stuck in mud on ANOTHER 3rd down play. hey, at least dunta broke up a pass, and caused a strip (to go along with HIS missed tackles) yeah, u can blame a lot of people… but Freddy got fingered yesterday… again.
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by chrisd21 on Sep 28, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You can count the number of great tackling CB's on two hands
There were a few awful tackles, yes. I never said he dominated the game or anything, but his skillset is more cover and less tackle. It’s not a big shock that he “struggled” in this system.
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by riversmccown on Sep 28, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The Texans as a defense are making more mistakes on 3rd down than any other, so Bennett missing 3rd down tackles really doesn’t seperate him from any other Texans player at this point. My theory is that the Texans have too many young players making young player mistakes and mental gaffs during plays, and the reason we’re seeing so many 3rd and longs converted against us right now is that most of those players are playing even more aggressively on 3rd down trying to make a big play for the defense which makes it even more likely for them to make those errors and gaffs.
In short, or maybe "in long"...
The Texans are playing with blind agressiveness right now, they need to play with more controlled aggression or we’re going to continue seeing them give up huge plays all game.
You can play aggressively on defense with either aggressively play from your players in a vanilla defensive look, or precise play in an aggressive defensive scheme, but not with both aggressive play and an aggressive scheme as you’re currently seeing out of the Texans. With aggressive playcalling and consistently sending multiple players on blitz, if your players aren’t playing exactly as the play calls, there’s going to be holes are over the place. When players are allowed to play aggressively they’re going to go “outside the box” a little at times and if you’re relying on 4-5 players in coverage it only takes 1-2 to be out of position and you give up a TD in the blink of an eye.
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Agree with a lot of these points
Don’t think it has much to do with the young players…most rookies are either NFL ready or they aren’t. But yes, this is vanilla aggression that is not doing any good since it just brings our weaknesses to the forefront.
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by riversmccown on Sep 28, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I don't get...
We’re playing more agreessive up front, but in deep zones on the back end?? Should we not be in press with one or two over the top, if we’re going to try to get the qb to either go down (easy, bfd) or throw a pressured duck?
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I heard someone ask Koobs that question.
He said they played alot of press coverage, sure didn’t look that way to me. Why do they have coaches shows where the coach just says same old bullshit and no actual information comes out of an hour long show.
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am I the only one who doesnt think the schemes have been all that aggressive? I mean sure we are blitzing more, but honestly we could blitz twice a game and it would be more than before. The blitzing just seems so plain and predictable and we dont do much of it on 3rd down.
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We blitz a lot more
And we’ve actually gotten more pressure on the qb than we did last year, even if we haven’t gotten to him as much.
It’s just that we don’t blitz well or tackle well. Or cover well, for that matter.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 28, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Over the long run
The difference is maybe 3 blitzes a quarter. So I don’t think you’re too far off in thinking it’s not all that aggressive. It’s not Rex Ryan aggression, for instance. But it’s definitely a lot more aggressive.
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by riversmccown on Sep 28, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
And the only sliver of I hope have
…is that, as he learns the ropes of being a d-coord, Bush will learn to mix his blitz schemes up a little (or a lot, actually). Of course, it’s far from a given that he will, and it’s far from ideal that we’ve given a team with borderline playoff-caliber talent a brand new defensive coordinator who has to spend time learning the ropes.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 29, 2009 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
We do
blitz more but in the process we are playing so damn soft that it’s an easy check down for a 10-13 yard gain.
Need to do more overload blitzes
and try to get a defender coming free to QB. We blitz now, but they are easily picked up, need to try something different.
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Haven’t heard this guy’s name all year. Junior slump?
It's not "Fred Bennet is Killing us"
It should be “The secondary is killing us”.
I understand why Captain Meco and the linebacking corps like this scheme a whole lot better than Richard Smiths. It’s because they get to go rabid dog crazy against the opposing offense but that leaves our horrible secondary exposed. We all know that our secondary is equal to dog shit. The whole league knows that. And now that we have our LB’s blitzing (I admit, I was drunk but im 50 percent sure that I saw all 3 LBs blitzed with no result) on passing downs, it’s like easy pickins for the opposing offense. They can beat us with short, intermediate, and long passes. Im just glad that we haven’t faced any real QB’s that can make all those passes. And when we do(FUCK the indy game is coming up) it’s gonna be a long day for the texans defense and the texans fan base.
And this is a memo to everybody in this blog and other fans. You would make it so much easier for yourself if you came into terms that our defense is going to give up one big play for a td every game. As bad as the raiders are,(Jamarcus Russel=A break for Texans secondary. I hope) I can see McFadden breaking a long run for a TD this coming week.
At some point...
I think that it’s statistically impossible to give up any MORE yards per game. I mean, it’s TD drive after TD drive, with no punting or turnovers. How much worse could we look against a good offense?? Maybe they score in 3 plays, as opposed to 9, but the yardage is the same.
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It wasn't TD after TD Beefy.
I remember the D stopping a couple of drives. Which resulted in punts. Which resulted in me losing my voice for screaming “DON’T MUFF THE FU*KING PUNT THIS TIME JJ!!” at the top of my lungs while drunk.
I remember that...
and did the same.
Didn’t really fit the theme of my comment, though.
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You can see McFadden breaking a long run for a TD?
I can see 4.
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by riversmccown on Sep 29, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Fred Bennett is killing us.
That is all.
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by riversmccown on Sep 29, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed my friend...
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by TexansForever on Sep 30, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 30, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I prefer
Thinking Fred Bennet is killing us to thinking our defense is hopelessly inept…..can I cling to my ignorance?
I haven't been able to rewatch either the JAX or TEN game
But I seem to recall Fred not only missing tackles (and sure, all of the defense is doing that, but that shouldn’t make his misses have less impact), but he’s also getting turned around repeatedly, which gets down to a basics and fundamentals problem. As a corner, if you get turned around, then you’re putting yourself in a bad position. Making a mistake is one thing, as is getting burned – but to repeatedly get beaten because of bad fundamentals – I think that’s less forgivable.
…and I do think he’s killing us, but certainly not any MORE than our DT or safety play is.
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by HoustonDiehards on Sep 30, 2009 9:39 PM CDT reply actions
And Dunta
It’s also a matter of expectations. We expect DT and S to kill us. I’d like to see Fred “regress” to being good again. But, what I see is he’s getting burned on coverage fundies.
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