Texans 2010 Free Agents: What To Do?
There are 14 players on the Texans' current roster that are going to be unrestricted free agents on March 5th if a deal is not reached before then. These players are Chester Pitts, Kevin Walter, Ephraim Salaam, Rex Grossman, Chris Brown (Hallelujah!), Tutan Reyes, Jeff Zgonina, Chaun Thompson, Khary Campbell, Nick Ferguson, Brian Russell, Dunta Robinson, Matt Turk and Bryan Pittman.
As for restricted free agents, if no collective bargaining agreement is reached, DeMeco Ryans, Tim Bulman, Bernard Pollard, John Busing, Ryan Moats, Rashad Butler, Chris White and Owen Daniels will all be free agents on March 5th as well.
The Texans can retain first right of refusal and compensation rights for their restricted free agents by submitting a minimum qualifying tender to those players by February 26.
In my opinion, DeMeco Ryans needs the most attention on getting a deal done. I'm sure the majority of the readers and writers here would agree. MDC wrote a good post about the Owen Daniels situation and if he should be franchise tagged or not. You know, because Dunta Robinson would be okay with being tagged again this season, by the way. But what about guys like Chester Pitts, Kevin Walter and Bernard Pollard? None of them should be able to command too much money on the market. Not with Pitts coming off of an injury and Walter's production dropping off significantly this season as compared to 2008. Someone might pay Pollard, but I believe the team wants him back and will get something worked out. But DeMeco Ryans needs to be priority number one. Because he is the one player I truly believe might leave and cause us to regret it for the rest of his career.
I'm not the "capologist" guy like MDC is, so he can probably crunch the numbers a little better. But of these players listed above, which do you want to keep most and why?
Discuss.
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Man Kerns
You just always have to be on top, don’t you?
Chester Pitts – attempt to re-sign cheaply, if not, love you but bye.
Kevin Walter – same as Pitts
Ephraim Salaam – Bye
Rex Grossman – Bye
Chris Brown – Drown in Houston channel
Tutan Reyes – Bye
Jeff Zgonina – Depends on FA/Draft
Chaun Thompson – Bye
Khary Campbell – You’re just making up names now
Nick Ferguson – Bye
Brian Russell – Bye
Dunta Robinson – same as Pitts
Matt Turk – Not sure who the other available punters are, but inclined to look at them.
Bryan Pittman – Whatever
DeMeco Ryans – First and third round tender with eye towards long-term deal
Tim Bulman – Smallest tender
Bernard Pollard – Second round tender
John Busing – Reassigned to childrens play ground where missing tackles is a good thing.
Ryan Moats – Like him, but not different enough from Slaton and Foster, no thanks.
Rashad Butler – Not worth the tender
Chris White – Smallest tender
Owen Daniels – First round tender
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my tv
doesn’t get the houston channel
In Canada our balls are bigger
by canadian texan on Jan 11, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Awesome
At least you know you won’t drown in it.
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this is why
i always wear a life jacket when watching tv
In Canada our balls are bigger
by canadian texan on Jan 11, 2010 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
I Have to work
or else Tim will text me asking if I still want to write here.
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I have to agree though
On most of your evaluations. Are there any good punters available?
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Initial lookthrough
No.
Dan Sepulveda is pretty decent but he’ll be RFA and draft picks are way too valuable in this draft with everyone chomping at the bit to get paid before the NFL goes to draft slotting.
Best actual FA is probably Hunter Smith, and I’ve had enough of creative throws by people who aren’t quarterbacks.
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by riversmccown on Jan 11, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
nobody better
at the random 4th down “run for it”, however.
Mount Cody in round 1
Mitch Berger / UFA / Broncos
Jeff Feagles / UFA / Giants
Chris Hanson / UFA / Patriots
Craig Hentrich / UFA / Titans
Sam Koch* / RFA / Ravens
Michael Koenen* / RFA / Falcons
Sav Rocca / RFA / Eagles
Jon Ryan* / RFA / Seahawks
Daniel Sepulveda / RFA / Steelers
Hunter Smith / UFA / Redskins
Matt Turk / UFA / Texans
* means they are 4th or 5th year veterans who will be UFA if a CBA is agreed to by Mar 1
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
did I miss something
why would we let Turk go? On a few of the close games we lost he was the only player helping us get back in it. There were a few games I’d have given him player of the game if we’d won. Of course then Brown would let us down and f*&^ it up
I dunno if someone said let Turk go...
…but I’d definitely look to see if there were upgrades. You have to consider all options.
Well, he could retire as well, he's getting up there in age
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Jan 11, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
He wasn't terribad
But there were defenitly some bad punts this year, such as the one(s?) in the first half against the Jags in the 2nd game.
www.manningface.com
There were 26 punters who punted in all 16 games...
Turk was tied for 14th on fewest touchbacks, 15th on most inside the 20, and 7th for most downed.
That’s support for nolander’s statement. He’s not bad, but he’s not great.
personally I wouldnt tender Ryans or Pollard, I’d pay them and get the deal done without letting them hit the market and send a message to the players about rewarding the outstanding. Especially in a cap less year. Then I’d tie Dunta to Chris Browns nuts and throw them in the Bayou like an unwanted pair of nunchucks.
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by DaGoaT on Jan 11, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I tend to agree on Ryans
Pollard may deserve a tender.
If the first half of 2010 is as good as 2009, 4 year deal mid-season.
Ryans has earned it, and it would indeed send a message.
Mount Cody in round 1
pollard
deserves a deal. If he’d have played the first 4 games he’d be up for def player of the year.
Pollard As DPOY?
Slow down there, dude. Pollard was a fine player and all, but he was not DPOY material. Not even close.
Even Kerns thinks you should tone the Pollard love down a notch.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Jan 11, 2010 10:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Why does the word "Pollard"
Always have my name attached to it?
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thats like asking your mother why she named you “Awesome” or something.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
Come on...
I like Pollard, but don’t think he’s Jesus or something. We all know that Jesus is Morlon Greenwood, right MDC?
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by Mike Kerns on Jan 12, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nah, it's just MDC
He can take it.
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Technically
Morlon Greenwood circa 2006-2007 is Jesus. Morlon Greenwood circa 2008 is fat and shitty.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
Who doesn’t want a pair of nunchucks?? Unless nunchucks is slang for ahole players that tried their best to keep us from a winning season…
Oh, and pay DeMeco his damn money!
Demeco needs to get Dunta's "Pay Me Rick" shoes fitted for himself
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Jan 11, 2010 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
DeMeco will never put those shoes on!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I'm real glad
OD, CaptMeco, and Pollard are RFA’s.
There’s no way we can lose that talent without compensation.
Mount Cody in round 1
Doesn't that depend on the CBA??
If a CBA is agreed to, then they are UFA?
by distant_texans_fan on Jan 11, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
RFAs – attempt to sign – Chester Pitts, Kevin Walter, Dunta Robinson, Matt Turk
RFAs – allow to seek other deals and not interest in matching, unless it is below the team’s value slot - Rex Grossman, Chris Brown, Jeff Zgonina, Nick Ferguson, Brian Russell
RFAs – just let them walk – Ephraim Salaam, Tutan Reyes, Chaun Thompson, Khary Campbell, Bryan Pittman
UFAs – Attempt to sign – DeMeco Ryans, Tim Bulman, Bernard Pollard, Ryan Moats, Owen Daniels
UFAs – Do not sign – John Busing, Rashad Butler, Chris White
My thinking on the RFAs and UFAs that I would attempt to sign is that they have real value to the team with average or better than average NFL player value. All the players on the allow to seek other deals or do not sign, I consider to be less than average NFL players and the Texans can replace that player with another player off the street and most likely improve that position. The chance that they are signed by another club is a chance I am willing to take with the possibility if they are not picked up by another team, they are still available on an as needed basis by the Texans.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
If we don't re-sign Tutan Reyes
I quit sports.
The Texans.
by tehGrindCrusher on Jan 11, 2010 11:43 AM CST reply actions
Even if Tutan signs with the Falconry team?
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by riversmccown on Jan 11, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Well, certainly big anyway.

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by riversmccown on Jan 11, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
I guess I see why...
I always helped Shaun with his environmental science homework, I didn’t have a choice.
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I remember this game.
You can kind of make me out, the fuzzy white guy behind him.
I was going to tell him that he was using the wrong hand during the pledge of allegience here, but he’s always so excited about the pledge. I just didn’t have the heart.
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by TexansForever on Jan 11, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
RE: Tutan
If he were to change the spelling of his name to “Tootin’” I’m all in.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Number of seconds in which Chris Berman would call him "Rootin'"
<3
The Texans.
by tehGrindCrusher on Jan 12, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
If our backup OT is getting on highlights...
That’s either really awesome, or really shitty.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
If I ran things
Ryans and Pollard would get long-term deals. The defense was improving, and those two played well all season.
Who I want to return if cheap enough:
Pitts, Walter, Dunta, and Daniels (2nd round tender if we can’t work anything out).
Who may or may not return based on what’s available out there in FA or the draft:
Grossman, Zgonia, Ferguson, Turk, Moats, and Pittman.
Who’s 100% gone:
Salaam, Brown, Reyes, Thompson, Campbell, Russell, Bulman, Busing, and Butler.
Re: Daniels
You can’t do a second-round tender with him because the cheapest tender he can get is 110% of this year’s salary, which puts him automatically in the 1/3 tender slot.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
broken record
but I would allow OD to go every day, if we were to get a 1 and a 3.
Mount Cody in round 1
I'd drive to Houston
and help him pack.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
I'd split mileage with you.
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Last year, maybe.
But not coming off that injury.
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A 1st and a 3rd is a lot to ask.
I don’t think another team would go that high, except maybe Dan Synder.
by distant_texans_fan on Jan 11, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
AL DAVIS BABY.....AL DAVIS.
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by TexansForever on Jan 11, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
ok thats the Texans
now a list of all the other teams, sorted in order of our priority of needs, so we can begin shopping.
ready, go.
Mount Cody in round 1
by texanphil on Jan 11, 2010 1:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be...
by distant_texans_fan on Jan 11, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
Its not that it isn't full.
But it is two years out of date.
by distant_texans_fan on Jan 11, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
DeMeco and Pollard
We get those two done and I’m happy. We can’t afford to lose DeMeco.
He's no Mr. Mittens.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
Who is?
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Derek Zoolander
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
Sex Cannon has everything Mr. Mittens has, except for two things
Sex Cannon doesn’t have the hair
Mr. Mittens doesn’t have the itchy trigger finger
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Jan 11, 2010 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
Wow
We’re better off than I thought were were. Out of all of our unrestricted free agents, none would really break us if they left. I’d resign Pitts, Walter, Robinson, and Turk if we can get them with reasonable contracts. If a team is willing to pay massive $ to get them however, let them have em.
Having restricted free agents really isn’t as big a deal because if we want to keep them on roster, we can without much risk of losing them or getting awesome value in return, which also makes it more likely that we keep them. Ryans, Daniels, and Pollard we should keep. Bulman too for that matter, give him a 5th round qualifying offer then if another team chooses to sign him we have the otpion of keeping him on or having an addition 5th rounder.
No such thing
as a fifth-round qualifying offer. RFA tender offers are set so that you get right of first refusal at all levels, plus either a pick from the round the player was originally drafted in, a second round pick, a first round pick, or first and third round pick (depending on tender amount). Players who were originally undrafted (like Bulman) don’t have a corresponding pick for the lowest level.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
not true
since he was undrafted, if we lose him, we have the right to sign another free agent to fill his spot.
Its true, I looked it up.
Mount Cody in round 1
Huh?
We’d have the right to sign another free agent anyway. And there is still no 5th round tender offer.
[Apologies if you were being sarcastic and I missed it.]
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
It's phil
I’m pretty sure it’s sarcasm
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Yo' right...
party on, Garth.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
by MDC on Jan 11, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait
Just why the fuck do I have to be Garth?
OK, fine. I’ll be Garth on 1 condition. You must ignore any pleas from Cassandra that I’ve been tea-bagging her while she sleeps.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
yeah, sarcasm
but still wrong, since you said “pick”
I have a lot to work on during this offseason
Mount Cody in round 1
Is this place Horseville or something...
Because I’m surrounded by a bunch of cotton pickin’ NEIGH-SAYERS!!
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
It's really very simple, IMO:
Do what must be done to ensure that Demeco, Owen, and Bernard are Texans next year and lock them up with long-term deals.
Dunta’s been humbled by the cold reception to his demands last year. Maybe he’ll be willing to redo his deal for the chance to keep these three…..yeah, right, and Oprah Winfrey’s gonna put me on the cover of her magazine…….
SL
"...and if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surely means that I don't know". SL
re: the cunta question
The only way I’d even consider bringing him back is if he came out publicly and said he’d do whatever the coaches asked of him (special teams, relegated to nickle back (not the band, Tim)) without question or comment, because all he cares about is Texans’ victories. Otherwise, I don’t even make him an offer, even if it’s a spiteful one, if I’m Rick.
This guy can do just as much, or more, damage with his mouth in the locker room as he can with his body on the field.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Jan 11, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd
for the dig at Tim.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
It Fits
I suppose whipped house-husbands who converse as if they were 14 year old girls would like Nickelback.
I’ve learned a lot about myself today.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
what i would do
Sign Demeco to five year deal Pollard to four year deal And F-Tag Owen, then sign Richard Seymor to three year deal N get Carlos Rogers
living the Texas dream
Richard Seymour
to play what position?
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
Seymour weighs 310
No gracias, amigo.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
He looks more than that, though
But using him at NT wouldn’t be the answer.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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Yeah
that was more my point, anyway. He’s not a NT, so we really don’t need another UT, especially one who is on the wrong side of 30.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
who do you got thats a real option
dont say wilfork because they gave up seymor to keep wilfork
living the Texas dream
Casey Hampton
Dan Williams
Terrence Cody
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
Agreed
But if it was Kenny Rogers, then fuck yeah!
Islands in the Stream, motherfuckers.
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by Shake on Jan 12, 2010 8:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
had to rec it
it made me laugh
what does tim call it? lollerskates?
Mount Cody in round 1
Indeed
And then I let out a girlish squeal and paint my toenails.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
wtf?
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the Raiders gave up a first round pick to get Seymour, what makes you think they will let him go.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
a Raiders first round
is another team’s ~4th rounder.
So he may be on to something.
Mount Cody in round 1
who to get...?
RB Jerome Harrison UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent > I think he has some potential..
PK Jay Feely UFA New York Jets Free Agent > Ok.. i’ll take every kicker over Kris Brown..
OG Bobbie Williams UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent > He’s so mean!
DL Casey Hampton UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent > Would he fit in a 4-3?
DL Vince Wilfork UFA New England Patriots Free Agent > No chance, but would be nice.
FS Antoine Bethea UFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent > admitted.. he’s a colt, but he’s a ballhawk!
CB Will Blackmon UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent > very underrated corner, but did have a serious injury.
FS C.C. Brown UFA New York Giants Free Agent > NO WAY IN HELL!
CB Terrence McGee UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent > Here’s a good corner?!
Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!
Mcgee is a good corner
Injured alot though, and with his speed no way Al Davis doesn’t snap him up IF he makes it to the market.
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Casey Hampton....sue he would fit.
I just don’t buy the 3-4 to 4-3 DL can’t be done argument.
Your job is essentially same. Be a giant fatass and plug up the middle. Command the double team so guys like Mario and Barwin can go off.
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For the record...
I’ve never heard this “3-4 to 4-3” argument you reference.
I’m thinking you’ve misunderstood something people were trying to tell you, which… isn’t any surprise at all.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Isn't there an argument like this
With respect to DL and OLB? I don’t see why it would make a difference if you’re Al Haynesworth or someone like that, but it is relevant for a guy like Dumervil or Orakpo.
The Texans.
by tehGrindCrusher on Jan 12, 2010 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe so
But not for Patrick Willis.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Patrick Willis is a pioneer
So far he is the only person who has succeeded in the 1 defensive alignment. He just lines up by himself and plays every position.
The Texans.
by tehGrindCrusher on Jan 12, 2010 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
more like plays the only position, he plays Patrick Willis.
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by DaGoaT on Jan 12, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Correct.
And you can have that discussion all day long, but that don’t make it applicable to Casey Hampton or any other NT on God’s green earth. NT’s are NT’s, regardless of scheme, and are needed by everyone. They’re just the centerpiece of a 3-4.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
agree
Resign Pollard, OD, Meco, and only cheaply – Pitts, Walter, Moats, Turk, Bulman
then go after reggie nelson and quinten groves from Jax (who they have been rumored to possibly cutting) and then get Wilfork!
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jan 11, 2010 7:41 PM CST reply actions
One size fits all
Mr mittons. You’ll be smittin. Or start bitchin!
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