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2009 in Review: The Offensive Line

Apologies for only getting to one of these this week.  I had a fun (but thankfully minor) surgery on Tuesday.  Hit the jump if you're familiar with the series because the next couple of lines are review.

I'm going to look at every player who played more than 100 snaps for the Texans from a number of different angles.  I'll give their regular statistics from this year and last year (except here, where there are none).  Similarly, I will bring in Pro Football Focus and Football Outsiders numbers for the last two years and compare them.  A glossary of FO terms can be found here, and Pro Football Focus operates on a strict +/- system.  Finally, I'll give my impressions on each of them as someone who has spent probably 100 hours each year watching the game tapes and filling in charting numbers for FO.  For players with less than 100 snaps, I'll just give a brief summary.  From this, I hope to give a balanced reading of each player's ability and relative value to the team.

Star-divide

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A fun one at the intersection of statistics and logic, much like Andre Johnson's DVOA rating: Adjusted Line Yards think the Texans got very similar play from the offensive line in 2009, and blames the poor running on the backs themselves.  That running back yardage total ranks ahead of just San Diego and Detroit, good enough for 30th place.  Case closed, let's draft a running back!

As showcased in the backs section, every one of FO's statistics hated Steve Slaton last year.  He was dead last in success rate, DVOA, and DYAR for all running backs who met the qualifying line of 100 rushes; FO also thinks he is a convicted felon in the offseason.  Regardless of how true Slaton's failings were from a scouting perspective (I think you can assign blame to both Slaton and the offensive lIne), it's unlikely to repeat itself again.

ALY says the Texans have struggled to run on the left side of the line the last two years.  In 2008, the Texans had Duane Brown and Chester Pitts on the left.  They were considered the strongest run blockers on the team, which I'm sure made for great media guide quotes while the right side blocked better than them.  In 2009, Pitts was out most of the year, so it made a little more sense that they'd fall off.  Left guard was the gaping hole for the Texans last year--my eyes have seen it, FO's statistics saw it, and Pro Football Focus did as well.  The good news?  Gaping holes are much easier to improve upon than solid parts.  

Duane Brown

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One of the fun things about the NFL season is how quickly things we have learned can be proven untrue.  A few weeks into the season, fans were abuzz about Duane Brown's improvement.  He was blossoming before our eyes.  He was up and down after the first three weeks, then Dwight Freeney spent the first Colts game knocking him up.  Then he got knocked out forty times in a row.  That plus politics.

As I noted in the backs piece, Duane Brown did improve.  The problem is that improving from "the worst left tackle at pass protection in the league" to "one of the ten worst left tackles at pass protection in the league" isn't really the kind of leap that keeps Matt Schaub's jersey clean.  Brown has the size, he gets proper leverage, and he's quick enough once he gets his feet moving to get good downfield blocks.  His instincts off the snap are just horrendous though, which helps lead to both the poor pass protection and the high number of penalties.  

Excuse Brown if you'd like by saying that his numbers are skewed by a bad game against Freeney and playing the second Jaguars game hurt, but most NFL players do look better when you remove their two worst games from the season.  We're on 32 games of him at left tackle and he's yet to be anything more than bad in a season.  Even if I grant that he may improve all the way up to mediocre, is that enough?

I continue to be reminded of Chester Pitts: the skills and measurables of a tackle with the instincts of a guard.  While it really depends on what sort of replacement left tackle is available via the draft or free agency, I think that there are scenarios where the Texans would be better served letting Brown try left guard and picking up a new left tackle.  The Texans can still run a good offense with poor left tackle play, but it really decreases their margin for error.

Kasey Studdard

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The other weak link in the line statistically, Studdard was even worse on film.  While PFF thinks his run blocking was the worst part of his game, I'm going to disagree and say he looked much worse in pass protection.  Studdard's contingency plan for blocking a stunt was only slightly more effective then curling up in the fetal position and wishing Vince Young was behind him so there was a chance he could avoid the sack.  On the other hand, at least when he thinks about Vince Young, unlike a certain twelve year-old who will remain nameless, he doesn't need a box of tissues and five minutes with his door closed.

Studdard was adequate blocking on screens, which makes sense given that he probably gave up 50 pounds to every player he was trying to block up front.  Other than that, the only part of his game that was good were his post-sack gestures, which were top-notch.  The optimist can look back and see that his last four games were the best of his season and say that he needed time to adjust.  The pessimist can look back and see that those games were against the Seahawks, Rams, the non-Ferguson Dolphins, and the non-Wilfork/Warren Patriots.  I just don't see enough here to warrant a roster spot past the practice squad.  Studdard seems like a good character guy, but when your calling card in the NFL is screen blocking and you're an offensive lineman, it's not a good sign.  If D. Brown isn't moved here, this is the highest priority area on the entire offense.

Chris Myers

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FO and PFF both seem to think that Myers is doing a credible job run blocking.  Color me unconvinced.  This is probably the one offensive player I disagree with the stats for the most vehemently.  Myers is a horrendous pass blocker.  Everyone around here knows of his exploits against Kris Jenkins, so I don't think I need to do too much convincing on that.  Does his run blocking make up for his pass blocking to the point where he's a top 10 center in football like his PFF performance says he was last year?   I'm gonna go with no.

Myers is technically sound, like most Texans linemen.  He does a decent job on screens and pulls as long as you keep him away from the big boys, but his body and size dictate that he just simply isn't going to win against nose tackles very often.  I charted him for sixteen games and mentioned him poorly in run blocking as much as any of the other Texans linemen.  Not only does he provide no push, but he also is terrible at holding his blocks out front.

I'm comfortable with Myers as a backup center/guard.  He fits the scheme and brings enough to the table to not be a total disaster.  Letting him start again would probably be a mistake, particularly since there is a certain in-house candidate with natural center skills who was forced to play guard last year.  

Random note on the PFF center ratings: They rated 11 centers +10 or better, as compared to 12 tackles and 12 guards.  Given that there are two more tackles and guards starting on each team, that seems like quite a weird split.

Mike Brisiel

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Brisiel, asides from having one of the strangest silent "i"s in the NFL, is known best as a run game mauler.  Unlike Myers and Studdard, he actually has the weight and size to back that up on the field.  While the PFF stats reflect poorly on his run blocking for the bit of last season that he did play, the pass blocking line is a really good sign after his poor 2008.  Combine Brisiel's first couple of seasons and you have a player who has shown flashes of everything but hasn't been able to throw it all together into one really stellar year yet.

Hard to add a whole lot of scouting reflections of someone who didn't really play that much (and played early when he did), but asides from the standard season-ending injury caveat, Brisiel should be a decent enough right guard next year and has the potential for more.  Whether the Texans let him meet that potential is another story.

Eric Winston

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Eric Winston is never going to be a lockdown right tackle, but he's very solid in just about every area of the game and that alone makes him the best offensive lineman the Texans have.  He did have his issues in run blocking last year, like pretty much every Texan lineman, but he made fewer mistakes than most.  Unlike Brown, I think Winston has enough speed to stop people rushing him outside.  What hangs Winston up the most are spins and double moves.  In the run game, he gets decent push and holds his blocks well.  When he fails in run support, it's usually because he just didn't get to the spot quick enough.

Winston is probably never going to be invited to a Pro Bowl, since he's not a quarterback and he doesn't just win games, but the Texans should be set at right tackle for the next few years as long as he stays healthy.  The tools, performance, and skill are all there, and he hasn't missed a start in 3 years.  

Antoine Caldwell

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Caldwell played competently for someone who was out of position and forced to the spot by injuries.  His biggest weakness is that he is terribly slow off the snap, something that would be much easier to deal with as a center.  Unfortunately, Steph brought up yesterday that the Texans think he profiles better at guard (and McClain has been saying it for months now) and they are likely to keep him there.  Which really throws a monkey wrench into my idea that he should just shift over and start Caldwell over Chris Myers.

I see no upside in letting Myers keep the center job unchallenged.  We've seen the stats.  We've also watched the games.  He just doesn't have the physical skill-set to be an every down NFL player against the physical tackle specimens lining up across from him.  Committing to putting Caldwell at guard permanently points to complacency, unless they're planning to use another high pick on a center.  

Either way, Caldwell deserves a big role in the offense next year.  Give him a full year in the system and I think it's not out of the question he finishes 2010 as the best non-Winston offensive lineman on the team.  I'd just much rather see it come at the expense of Myers rather than at one of the guard spots.  

Chris White

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Pee Pants, as he's affectionately known, was probably the best interior lineman the Texans had for the last half of the season.  Damning with faint praise, but he got the most push and was the best of Myers, Caldwell, and Studdard at taking stunts.  Unfortunately, he gave most of it away by being the most jumpy interior lineman in the NFL, and he seems to be very streaky compared to the rest of his linemates.  One of the greater mysteries of the 2009 season, right up there with "Why is Chris Brown on the team?", is how the Texans managed to field four interior linemen over the last eleven games of the season and rotate the two of them that were actually doing their job well.  

Long-term, White has little chance of being more than a backup plan again next season if Caldwell stays at guard, but he's proven to be relatively effective and should be an asset there.  Enough to justify the smallest RFA tender, in my mind.  

(F*** it, I'm) Going Deep

Chester Pitts - It was a good Texans career, but between the microfracture surgery and the acres of guards in his path, I'd be surprised to see Pitts back with the team.  I'd love to give him a small prove-it deal, but I wouldn't have my hopes up about him actually proving it.

Rashad Butler - He played competently in the Rams game when Brown exited, but I don't have enough tape on him to say much more than that.  Particularly given the quality of the competition.  He also got a few snaps in the goal line set and wasn't too impressive run blocking there.  The staff seems pretty sold on him, so I'd be surprised if he wasn't reprising his third tackle role next year.

Tutan Reyes - I believe this is a politically correct way of listing a boulder on your roster.  

Ephraim Salaam - When Brown was hurt, the Texans looked far and wide for a replacement tackle with upside.  Just kidding.  They signed someone old who knew their system, then told him to have fun on the inactive list while he was collecting his game checks.  I wonder if he ever actually showed up.

Adam Stenavich - Doing research on this guy yielded scouting report phrases like "struggles with speed rushers" and "built like an offensive guard".  He's listed as an offensive tackle.  MDC might be a better source of knowledge on this one as he's an ex-Wolverine.  I would be surprised to see him make it past the practice squad, personally.

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The overall consensus on the line seems to be: “They get the job done, but someone gets the job done better.”

I don’t get how Myers gets so much love from PFF. Big strong NT treat him like a bitch.

I don’t get how Studdard is so beloved by the coaching staff. He must help out the “beloved” Brown boys on giving them massages or something.

I wonder who will get added to the line since there’s some FAs on this list.

After the 2nd Jacksonville game, the entire line played better. I don’t know if it was the opponents or the move to Foster on the run game, but I know Schaub’s decision to get rid of the ball quicker helped them on pass blocking. I hope that success continues in 2010.

by TexansDC on Jan 22, 2010 11:54 AM CST reply actions  

Schaub is one of the best QB's when hurried/under pressure

Statistically. So that helps everyone.

Realistically I think the Texans could add just one offensive lineman and be fine. But they have to sort through the internal choices correctly to really make that work.

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by riversmccown on Jan 22, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Schaubby certainly improved in that aspect

His decision-making, his reading of the defenses, his finding the open man, his not throwing into too many double-coverages all improved.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jan 22, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Gotta take it in context

Brown looks terrible in pass protection statistically, but I wonder how he’d fair if Schaub could confidently step up into the pocket to avoid pass-rushers off the edge without getting flattened by whichever DT ran right through Myers and Studdard.

by Nashmeister on Jan 22, 2010 12:00 PM CST reply actions  

The entire line needs to be rebuilt.....

Start with the draft. Can’t expect immediate positive results. Learning curve. Somehow get to the playoffs and attack it again in the next off-season.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jan 22, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I can circumstantially see your point

But I don’t think Schaub comes into games worried that he can’t step up in the pocket.

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by riversmccown on Jan 22, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

It would seem

From everything the coaches have said that we will be targeting a center in the draft or FA. They obviously felt Myers long term wasn’t the solution when they drafted Caldwell, and now that they have decided Caldwell isn’t the solution, I would imagine they are looking for a C, maybe one of the Florida twins?

Unless a) they are blowing smoke up our skirts about Studdard b) Dennisson comes in and slaps Kubiak upside the head and tells him that he is completely wrong about our O-line personnel.

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by nolander on Jan 22, 2010 12:04 PM CST reply actions  

yeh

The one who is is the center though, I just couldn’t remember his name.

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by nolander on Jan 22, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Bring back Jordan Black.

A Black Salaami reunion is in order!

by Jordann on Jan 22, 2010 12:26 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I approve of this post

and so do all the ladies of the greater Houston area

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Jan 22, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I think you mean all the ladies

not currently being boned by LVJ.

Which is to say none.

I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.

by MDC on Jan 23, 2010 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Studdard vs. Myers

I know we disagreed on this through the season, but I really only had a couple “Oh fuck” moments with Myers, especially after the Jets game.

Studdard, OTOH, killed me dead nearly every single snap, and Brown had me worried more often than not.

No point to this, really. Just random thoughts.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 22, 2010 12:52 PM CST reply actions  

So...

If you were targeting a center, who would you want and in what round?

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by Tim on Jan 22, 2010 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

And what free agent centers are available ?

Whenever I bring up a list of free agents they just call them all lineman, so can’t tell who are tackles, guards, or centers.

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by CFHTim on Jan 22, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Or if they do break them down by position

They don’t break them down by level of suck. Not even to tell you who was a starter and who was a backup.

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by nolander on Jan 22, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

FA Centers; Listed in order of suck

Sorted by PFF Ranking (25% snaps taken; out of 34 centers)

  1. Chris Spencer (SEA)
  2. Rudy Niswanger (KC)
  3. Kevin Mawae (TEN)
  4. Justin Hartwig (PIT)

Back-ups include (names taken from anyone who’s taken a snap at C this season): Ryan Cook (MIN), Jason Spitz (GB), and Nick Cole (PHI)

by TexansDC on Jan 22, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Dunno why that messed up

20 – Spencer
29 – Niswanger
31- Mawae
34 – Hartwig

by TexansDC on Jan 22, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Draft Prospects (In case the FA list sucked)

Prospect (School) – Projected Draft Round

Maurkice Pouncey (Florida) – Round 2
Matt Tennant (Boston College) – Round 2-3
J.D. Walton (Baylor) – Round 3-4
Ted Larsen (North Carolina St) – Round 4
Jacob Hickman (Nebraska) – Round 5-6
Eric Olsen (Notre Dame) – Round 6-7
John Estes (Hawaii) – Round 7
Kenny Alfred (Washington St) – Round 7-Unsigned FA
Erik Cook (New Mexico) – Round 7-UFA
Jim Cordle (Ohio State) – Round 7-UFA
Chris Hall (Texas) – Round 7-UFA

Not the strongest of draft classes as the OT and OG positions are.

by TexansDC on Jan 22, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

According to the SI article Rip posted elsewhere...

John Estes had, arguably, the best week at the East-West Shine Game practices. Despite his physical shortcomings, he looked great, by all accounts, and bumped himself up a round.

by TexansDC on Jan 22, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Trick question

The center I want is on our roster already. The Texans just think he’s a guard.

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by riversmccown on Jan 22, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Dr McCown

Wonderful, insightful (and sometimes inciteful, if that is a word) report. Certainly confirms what most of us saw on our TV sets. Just, we didn’t watch it over and over again as you did 9 or 10 times…. I appreciate your observations. Certainly reinforces in my mind that the O-line needs to be addressed in the offseason and I’m sure Smithiak will. I think we also have to expect that the cure for this ill will not be accomplished overnight. This will take at least 2 to 3 seasons, IMO. I think I have seen written many times, that the O-line is one of the hardest positions to just walk into from college. It takes several years for an O-lineman to mature into an above average NFL player. I would like to hear your comments on this subject. How long will it take?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jan 22, 2010 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not the Doctor...

But what I always see is that LT and C are the two hardest positions on the line. This is due to LTs facing elite pass rushers and Cs needing to be able to “quarterback” the line calls, so to speak.

Most prospects start at the OG or (in the case of some LTs) the RT.

As you say, it’s not going to be an overnight fix. However, according to Rivers, the interior is what needs fixing. If Smithiak focused on that, we could see improvement next season espiecally with Brown healthy and Brown/Winston getting more experience.

That’s just my take. I’m sure Rivers will put it down correctly.

by TexansDC on Jan 22, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait, we will do

I know there is no magic wand you can wave and fix this. Players can play upwards of expectations. Duane Brown sounds like he is below average at his position, but if he moved in, he might be above average. So one potential direction to go is to get either through the draft or free agency, an elite LT. In a couple years, the left side could be above average. On the right side, Winston is adequate but will never be elite. At RG, perhaps an upgrade can be found in the draft or free agency. And, Caldwell moves to center. Based on that scenario and barring future injuries, with two new players on the interior, the plan is in motion. The players that are displaced by this become the backups or are cut. Okay, that is one answer and maybe not much different from what Rivers already stated and I did it in just one or two seasons!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jan 22, 2010 3:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I actually think

O-Line is a position you can come in and play well right away at. Look at the last couple of years of tackles: Joe Thomas, Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Marcus McNeill, etc. Cream rises to the top fast.

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by riversmccown on Jan 22, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

nice post. gj!

I say.. we draft a tackle and move Brown to LG. And our line will be..

LT: Anthony Davis/Bryan Bulaga/Bruce Campbell
LG: Duane Brown
C: Someone not named Chris
RG: Antoine Caldwell
RT: Eric Winston

I think that’s solid..

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by zala on Jan 22, 2010 5:13 PM CST reply actions  

I'd LOVE Davis

I think he’s going to be pretty great.

I just don’t know that I’d sacrifice a chance at a real NT for him.

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by riversmccown on Jan 22, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

what about

a guy like Jay Ross from East Carolina. Put on a little more weight, and he could easily be a NT.. and we could pick him up in the 3-4 round?

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by zala on Jan 23, 2010 5:33 AM CST up reply actions  

This might be crazy

But how about Trent Williams with our first rounder. He can play all 5 positions and was a beast at cemetery against Stanford

we need some first round takent

by AllenOU on Jan 22, 2010 11:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

On Duane Brown

I remember reading somewhere that most of his sacks came when Schaub held the ball for around 4s. Is it possible that some of Brown’s stats are skewed by the tendency of Schaub to hold the ball too long, or to wait for plays to develop.

by kaizer on Jan 23, 2010 1:07 AM CST reply actions  

I noticed the same thing...early in the season.

But as it wore on, it was less and less Schaub and more on Brown’s hands.

Schaub can lollygag with the ball sometimes, but that doesn’t excuse Brown from giving up pressure as much as he does, let alone sacks.

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by riversmccown on Jan 23, 2010 3:34 AM CST up reply actions  

This is something I am looking to Smithiak to fix

And, I’m not talking about coaching Duane Brown up, although I won’t completely discount that that can be done. The Texans have had two seasons to coach him up. I’m talking about making the move that you suggested, Rivers, and that is to move him to guard and pick up a real LT. Rivers, you have expressed your doubts about his abilities based on your game-watching. I trust your opinion. That is part of being the head coach, making these kinds of decisions. I am adding this to my Coach Kubiak watch list. This warrants watching.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jan 23, 2010 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

If You Move Duane Brown To LG

Who are the targets to replace him at LT?

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by Tim on Jan 23, 2010 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

You'd have to think

It’d be a draft pick because LT’s don’t enter free agency unless they are:

1.) Bad
2.) Old

by b0ng on Jan 23, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

And It would have to be a 1st rounder to make it worth it I think. Charles Brown or Brian Baluga might be available when we pick?

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by nolander on Jan 23, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

So on the money b0ng

Listed LT FAs with PFF rank

#50: Marcus McNeill (SD)
#6: Jared Gaither (BAL) [RFA]
#62: Donald Penn (TB)
#69: Jermon Bushrod [RFA] OR former All Pro Jammal Brown [coming off year long IR] (both are Saints)
#46: Chad Clifton (GB)
#70: Alex Barron (STL)
#68: Mike Gundy (ARI)

by TexansDC on Jan 23, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

I think Gaither was relagated to RT duty once Oher came on in Balty. McNeil had 1 good season followed by what happened to that dude. Penn is probably going to be re-signed as well as Bushrod. Brown might enter FA but his injury is a big ?. Clifton is old, Barron is responsible for getting Bulger killed and Mike “Gandy” is probably going to be re-signed unless I missed him sucking somewhere.

by b0ng on Jan 23, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Oher was playing RT until Gaither got injuried I believe.

Gandy is more of a OG than a OT. In fact, he used to play OG until forced to the OT by injury.

by TexansDC on Jan 23, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

McNeill's a 6 year...so he makes the cut I think.

Brown’s the interesting point. The Saints have to handle Bush’s contract and re-sign Jahari Evans among other things. Brown can void the final year of his contract and grab a new one. The Saints, obviously, weren’t hurt by him being on IR most of the season but his replacement (Jermon Bushrod) is a RFA. So the Saints can re-sign Brown (who’ll likely void his contract) and get something for the RFA, or let the All-Pro Brown walk and re-sign Bushrod (who’ll be cheap) and use that money elsewhere.

by TexansDC on Jan 23, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Uh, no...

McNeill is part of the ’06 draft class, just like Daniels.

I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.

by MDC on Jan 23, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Im on my handheld right now

Look at my FanPost about BRB/Smithiak about one week or so ago. I mentioned about 5, 6 or 7 prospective LTs coming out of college. Some of them may be playing in the upcoming East-West Shrine game or other all-star games. There are already reports coming out on the practice week underway for the E-W Shrine game. Take a look at thise guys. In my FanPost I suggested drafting one of these players and putting him on the field as next season’s LG, but perhaps the plan could be to transition that player to 1:19:47 PM to start the season or the following season. I believe this kind of plan isn’t groundbreaking in the NFL.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jan 23, 2010 1:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Scenarios

The lone FA I’d be interested in is Jamaal Brown, and he’s a buy low guy, not a sure fix.

Draft-wise, I went over my love of Anthony Davis earlier in this thread, There are probably a few separate 2nd-3rd rounders I’ll get over once I get my draft scouting completely on instead of first-round on.

I guess right now, most of the scenarios where Brown moves to LG involve the Texans trading their 2nd/3rd for Shaun Rogers/comparable NT, cause I still think that is the biggest hole and there will probably be good value there at 19/20.

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by riversmccown on Jan 23, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Not that fixing known holes has ever stopped the Texans from taking anyone before

Damn bastards taking Brian Cushing over MIchael Oher!

…wait, that worked out well for us? Damnit, stop making me look bad, Smithiak.

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by riversmccown on Jan 23, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Rivers, sitting here on my handheld

I can’t remember if you reviewed the defensive line yet. I will have to look later. Anyways, I see you are leaning, deadset, or somwhere in-between on getting a NT because you see that as the biggest hole that needs to be filled. Am I right?

I differ with you on that point. Pretty brave words because I haven’t seen a fraction of what you have seen. I think the Texans need to address the O-line most of all. I think, with your analysis, you have laid out a good case to support why I can have that opinion. Until I read your analysis, I was just concerned with the interior O-line. Now, I have to add LT to my concerns. So, we are talking about 4 of 5 players that work as a unit. I feel that outweighs the need of getting a large/mobile run-stuffing, pass-pressuring NT. If the Texans don’t address the O-line, that is 4/5’s of that O-line unit that is deficient, especially when it comes to the running game. Sure, at the end of the season we saw some success, but in that last game, the Patriots were going small and the Texans just took advantage of it with their game-planning.

Anyways, let’s continue this discussion. In reality, I don’t think the Texans can go wrong by addressing either of these areas, so long as they make then priorities #1 and #2.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jan 24, 2010 9:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

thes dang handhelds and their autoformatting

I think I was waying transition to LT. Ha! It did it again….caught it this time….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jan 23, 2010 4:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

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