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Kubiak's Wish List For New Offensive Coordinator Has Some Familiar Names On It

As Kyle Shanahan is purportedly all but signed, sealed, and bound for delivery to our nation's capital, the eyes of Texans fans turn to the playoffs search for a new offensive coordinator. John McClain says the list of candidates has at least four known names on it:

Kubiak didn't disclose any names on his list, but at the top are, in no apparent order, Munchak, Dennison, Musgrave and Gailey.

"I want somebody with me I'm comfortable with calling the plays," Kubiak said. ""We're going to spend a lot of time working together, and we have to be on the same page. He's going to be a guy I'll be dealing with every day."

Kubiak worked with Dennison, Musgrave and Gailey in Denver. He's never worked with Munchak, who has spent his entire 28-year playing and coaching career the Oilers/Titans.

Munchak has never been an offensive coordinator. He's coached the offensive line since he retired after the 1993 season.

Musgrave, a former NFL quarterback, coached Matt Schaub at the University of Virginia and with the Falcons.

Kubiak tried to bring Dennison with him from the Broncos in 2006, but Mike Shanahan wouldn't let him out of his contract.

Of the four names, Munchak's name intrigues me the most for a couple of reasons. First and foremost, the guy has experience coaching the offensive line, and doing it well to boot. This point is particularly salient if Alex Gibbs decides he's not coming back for a third year in Houston. Although the Titans may not rely as heavily on a zone blocking scheme as the Texans do, every team runs some variation of zone to some degree, so it probably wouldn't be asking too much. Plus, given the problems the Texans had running the ball this year, perhaps a move away from a pure zone blocking system is worth considering. Munchak could assist in that endeavor.

With another head coach, I'd be concerned about Munchak's lack of experience as an offensive coordinator. With Kubes, however, it's much less of a problem, as this offense is and will remain Kubes' show. Even with Kyle Shanahan calling the plays, Kubes has maintained veto power. Doubt that would change, no matter who the new OC is.

The question of whether that's a good thing is a separate issue entirely. As head coach, should Kubes delegate the play-calling to someone else? I mean really delegate it, too; not just have an offensive coordinator in title only. If so, Chan Gailey and/or Rick Dennison make more sense, given their experience.

Plus, they have history with Kubes in Denver. That factor alone might mean that Mike Munchak will not be the next offensive coordinator of your Houston Texans.

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After reading that

after a long, exhaustive search, the Houston Texans hire Dennison as their OC for 2010.

Its over. It sounds just like the Bush story.

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Jan 4, 2010 8:40 PM CST reply actions  

Re: Dennison

I fear you’re right, though there was talk about Dennison joining Shanahan The Elder in D.C. That would likely mean he’d have to take a demotion, as Lil’ Shanahan would seem to be slated for the OC gig there.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Jan 4, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

without the comment by BabyShan

I would say this rumor would be saying PapaShan wouldn’t poach his buddy Kubiak’s OC out from under him.

But since BabyShan is on record that he’d go, I’d say Daddy wouldn’t NOT hire his son, would he?

And BabyShan wouldn’t say he’s following Dad if he hasn’t already been asked, would he? That kinda puts himself out there if it hasn’t been discussed.

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Jan 4, 2010 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Re: Lil' Shanahan

I would think it has to be a done deal.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Jan 4, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope its Dennison.

After reading that, he’s the one I most feel comfortable with if he knows the system.

by TexansDC on Jan 5, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Because

He hasn’t lived in Denver. That’s a prerequisite for getting an interview with Kubes.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Jan 4, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

You say that facetiously

but, of all the consistent gripes people have about Kubiak, the level of nepotism he displays probably irritates me more than everything save his clock management skills.

Jim Caldwell delenda est.

by MDC on Jan 5, 2010 8:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought the same thing this morning

I don’t see any reason why Jim Zorn wouldn’t slot into the OC position very nicely.

by distant_texans_fan on Jan 4, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm

He’s not the guy who called that really weird shift of the entire offense twice in a row, is he?

Cause yeah. I was so glad it wasn’t Kubiak.

by WhiskeyR on Jan 4, 2010 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

technically that was special teams

"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.

To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.

by TexasHoosier on Jan 4, 2010 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

You mean the Swinging gate play?

That is awesome, they just couldn’t execute it.

by distant_texans_fan on Jan 5, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah,

we need more of that here next year.

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Jan 5, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Personally...

I think it was just a big FU to Snyder.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 5, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

if so

then that play should be a good thing on his resume. Alas, the world may never know….

by nolander on Jan 5, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

and probably a

you don’t want me calling the plays? ok, see if you you like this play your boy called.

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Jan 5, 2010 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously, Tim

You and EHTR really need to consult each other….you’re damn near synchronized like 2 high school chicks getting their period on the same day each month.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Jan 4, 2010 9:20 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I like the idea of Munchak and Matthews teaming up again in Houston

Great things happened when they were the anchors of the Oilers’ O line in the Run n’ Shoot era. Gibbs is getting old, and if he does not want to come back Munchak makes even more sense. Also as you pointed out, Kubiak may prefer an OC that “suggests” plays rather than has the final say. Schaub was beyond superb this year, and I’m sure that Shanahan deserves at least part of the credit there, so finding a good QB coach is a must if Munchak is hired. Musgrave could possibly fill the same role that lil Shanny did, and if Gibbs wants to come back in 2010, that would be a good combo too.

It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!

by oiler-texan diehard on Jan 4, 2010 11:10 PM CST reply actions  

plus

It sounds like the idea of those two coaching the Texans would make Methopotamia cry

by nolander on Jan 5, 2010 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Some thoughts.

I don’t see Munchak as being a great fit given Kubiak and Winston’s comments. There’s a lack of familiarity, and I think Bud wouldn’t let Munch go in division. I think anyone outside the system would be a distraction—you want to improve on what they are doing without creating a learning curve that makes the players go backwards before they can go forwards.

Out of McClain’s list, I could see Dennison or Musgrave. Dennison has lots of Denver experience, and Musgrave has the connection to Schaub and to Shanahan/Kubiak. I don’t see Chan Gailey as a fit because his experience with Denver was not on the offensive side of the ball.

One name not mentioned but should be considered is current TE coach Brian Pariani. Knows the system very well. Worked with Kubiak since 49ers and then Broncos. Knows what needs to be done with both the running/passing game well because of the nature of TE coaching. (offensive line/blocking coaching, also pass throwing/catching). It would be a very easy transition, and Kubiak and Pariani are close. The only downside to that would be replacing the work that he currently does—he did a nice job of making the TE position credible every year since he came on board.

by StephS on Jan 5, 2010 12:04 AM CST reply actions  

That's a great thought

…and it makes sense. Replacing Pariani as TE coach would be the most difficult part of it. How many coaches are out there ready to move up into TE coach for Kubiak?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jan 5, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I really want Munch

in the worst way, but it seems like a big pipe dream. I am expecting an internal promotion unless Kubiak gets an extension to his contract.

by b0ng on Jan 5, 2010 3:02 AM CST reply actions  

No matter who they hire

I have full confidence that he will lead run our offense very well.

Sadly, this is not something we can say about the other side of the ball.

The Texans.

by tehGrindCrusher on Jan 5, 2010 6:23 AM CST reply actions  

Death from above!!!

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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 5, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

What can I say

I was a bandwagon fan. Now that they’re in a slump, I’m thinking about supporting the Bahrainis instead.

The Texans.

by tehGrindCrusher on Jan 5, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

You sound more like a Cowboys fan

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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 5, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Beat me to it

Damn your premature commentation

Jim Caldwell delenda est.

by MDC on Jan 5, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

The Bahrainis

Are the Cowboys of Falconry. The Middle East’s Team.

The Texans.

by tehGrindCrusher on Jan 5, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

IMO.

the offense is pretty much set, regardless of who comes in. the beauty (and genius) of our offense is that at any given time, AJ, OD, KW has at least 3 option routes they can run on any play. because of the level of familiarity between shaubby & the crew, the defense is always on it’s heels, cuz the routes are read & react, which is why we had so many big plays this year. that is more a testament to shaubby and AJ and the chemistry they have, and the ability to always be on the same page, seeing the same thing, sharing a brain. same with OD. while i would love to see munch, im thinking we may go with the guy who coached shaubby in college. (forgot his name that fast) lol

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by chrisd21 on Jan 5, 2010 8:31 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I lean Munchak

Mainly for the potential applications of his name with the word “butt” in the event that he’s a failure.

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by riversmccown on Jan 5, 2010 9:10 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

Off topic

and I know I usually dig for a link (or two) but, what was Dave Andersons injury that kept him out after the hit he took? Was it precautious or more serious?

by Xetuoh on Jan 5, 2010 3:08 PM CST reply actions  

MIKE LEACH!

Haha, only kind of kidding, lots of rumors the Raiders want him as their coach.

After all is said and done, more is said than done.

by ayleein on Jan 5, 2010 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

Hey ayleein

How do you feel about the whole Leach/James thing?

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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 5, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

personally(as someone not named ayleein)

I feel it makes him the perfect candidate for the Raiders.

by nolander on Jan 5, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Al won't hire Leach

b/c he’s afraid he’ll lock him in a closet and he wouldn’t be able to ruin the team as easy as he does now.

Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".

by Bobobigbro on Jan 5, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm Craig James, BITCH!

I made a New Year’s resolution to not pass up any opportunity to use this phrase in 2010. Damn I miss the Chapelle Show.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Jan 5, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I just keep picturing the R. Kelly video

for “Trapped In The Closet,” but with Mike Leach and Adam and Craig James involved.

Jim Caldwell delenda est.

by MDC on Jan 5, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice

You could have also gone with the R. Kelly “I’m Gonna Piss on You” video, and still received credit for your answer.

I mean, isn’t the old-school treatment for a concussion the same as for a jellyfish sting?

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Jan 5, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

pee on it?

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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 5, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely

R. Kelly approves of this method to save lives

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Jan 6, 2010 7:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Yup

Little known fact: The 14-year-old getting the golden shower had just been stung in the face by a jellyfish AND had a concussion. R. was just performing emergency first aid.

Jim Caldwell delenda est.

by MDC on Jan 6, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Leach was boned by the admin and Adam James is a bitch and ESPN has about as much journalistic integrity as the National Enquirer — occasionally they get stuff right, but they don’t even care about accuracy as much as they do controversy.

That said, if we (Tech) can get over our unfounded adoration of Art Briles and move past the emotional connection to Ruffin McNeill, Tuberville is waiting for an offer. Tubs says he wants to keep the offense because it works and you’d be an idiot to mess with it, and I have no doubt he’d improve the defense. Plus, if he keeps McNeill on, those two would be a recruiting machine on defense.

After all is said and done, more is said than done.

by ayleein on Jan 6, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

As a UT grad and fan

I’d love to see Tubs there. Briles? Not so much. I think Baylor under Briles is going to be dangerous.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 6, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

national football post

Has Alex Gibbs likely going to the ’skins also

Mount Cody in round 1

by texanphil on Jan 6, 2010 11:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

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