Post-Game Breakdown: Giants Embarrass Texans
Two days later, I'm still not sure how to describe what we saw transpire at Reliant on Sunday. Rivers deemed it "easily the worst loss of the Schaub Era, and probably the worst loss of the Kubiak Era." I think that's a fair analysis, particularly with regard to Matt Schaub, whose play was simply detestable in every possible facet. Unfortunately, we could probably spend a great deal of time dissecting whether this loss was the worst one of the Kubiak Era, as there are a handful of other deserving candidates for the honor.
The most disappointing part, to me, is that entering this season, I thought the Texans had passed the days of getting totally blown out. I really thought that eggs in the form of what was laid against the Jets in the 2009 season opener (PGB for that pathetic display here and here, if you want to subject yourself to the pain again) were history. And yet, we're treated to debacles like what we witnessed against the Giants on Sunday and the Cowboys in Week Three. 40% of the time this season, your Houston Texans have looked totally unprepared and completely failed to execute. Games like that, where we wonder if the Texans even got the memo that they weren't on a bye that week, make me wonder how a team that looked so good against Indianpolis can transform into a squad that looks like an homage to the 2005 Houston Texans. Inevitably, I have a whole lot more questions than answers right now. The inquisition begins after the jump.
1. What happened to Matt Schaub? He looked skittish and unsure of what to do with the ball. When he did manage to get rid of the ball, it found a Texan less than half the time. I also can't recall seeing a 6'5" NFL QB getting so many passes tipped at the line. Since his arrival in Houston, I can't remember him ever looking as bad as he looked on Sunday.
2. How can the Texans not hand the ball off to Arian Foster on their opening drive? On their first four (4) possessions, how does Foster only get four carries?
3. What happened to the offensive line? Was their failure predominantly inspired by the Giants' excellence?
4. Why is Steve Slaton still returning kicks?
5. Not to disrespect the Giants, because they looked like world-beaters, but how does an offense as talented as the Texans' post less than 200 total yards?
6. Andre Johnson did not look right. As great as he is, and as profound an impact as he has on opposing defenses who have to account for him, I really question the wisdom of letting him play last Sunday. This Sunday too, for that matter. Was it just not feasible to rest him through the bye week to allow him to attack the remaining 10 games of the schedule as close to healthy as possible?
7. The lone bright spot from the offense's perspective was Owen Daniels. He looked more like the pre-injury OD than he has at any point this season.
8. Troy Nolan wasn't lighting the world on fire or anything, but I fail to understand why Eugene Wilson got as many snaps as he did.
9. Interceptions for Sherrick McManis and Kareem Jackson. They were akin to someone scooping water off the deck of the Titanic with a teacup.
10. Here's an idea for Frank Bush: Blitz 11 on every snap. Not like your secondary can keep anyone from catching the ball anyway, and you might occasionally get to the QB before he can get rid of the ball.
11. I like to think that every Sunday, in a bunker somewhere at an undisclosed location, Glenn Earl, Petey Faggins, Will Demps, Lewis Sanders, Eric Brown, and Jason Simmons gather to watch the Texans' secondary and say, "I could not possibly be worse than that. How do those guys have jobs and I don't?" At the same time, though in different cities, C.C. Brown, Dunta Robinson, and Phillip Buchanon all laugh nervously and refresh NFL.com to make sure they're still on active rosters.
12. The problem with benching Kareem Jackson is that it means you have to pick another Texans CB to replace him. None of the options strike me as palatable.
13. Looks like someone got a little carried away predicting the impact Brian Cushing would have in his return. I'm the "Do" of Texans fans.
14. There's a whole lot to question about Gary Kubiak, Rick Dennison, and Frank Bush right now. I'd like to narrow the focus...can someone explain to me why, trailing 24-3 early in the third quarter, Kubes would elect to punt from the NYG 38? I know it was 4th and 13, and I know it ultimately meant nothing, as Kareem Jackson picked off Eli Manning on the next series. But if you're trying to win the game there--I know, I know, suspend your disbelief for a second--why are you giving the ball back? Why not go for it?
The roller coaster continues on Sunday, when the 3-1 Kansas City Chiefs come to town. Will your Houston Texans be playing the part of Dr. Jekyll? Or Mr. Hyde? I haven't the foggiest. All I know is that I'll be sporting my "Houston Texans Away Team" patch.
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The late punt made me sigh.
But then again, nothing in that game (or on 90% the season, for that matter) could have possibly given Kubiak any confidence in his offense in that situation.
You are right...
There is no Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. The truth of the matter is that our O-Line, even against the Raiders, sucked. I don’t care about sacks. A sack and an incomplete pass are the same in that no progress is being made. Schaub has thrown more passes into the grass this year just trying to keep his ass out of the grass than I can recall in a long time. He seems skittish back there too like David Carr from the constant harassment.
Luckily, I came to this conclusion after the Raiders game. So last week didn’t bother me at all (after the first quarter when I saw the direction the game was going). We have won 3 games by the skin of our teeth, two with some pretty darn good luck and one against a team that we were able to get to from the D-Line (and stopping the run of course). And with ALL of that pressure we put on Peyton, he was still able to throw for 1500 yards and throw 54 touchdowns on us in that game because our secondary blows! Everyone wants to blame the D-Line for not helping the secondary by getting pressure but as you can see in that example, it really doesn’t help much except on the rare occasion when the QB ends up with the ball in his hands and on his ass.
The only way I see the Texans winning much this season is by grinding it out in the running game. Keep our offense on the field, and keep our defense off of the field. And we have to score in the redzone. But let’s be honest folks, with a good defense lining up in front of our offense and a decent offensive unit opposing our defensive unit, we’re screwed. Period. No way we beat the likes of the Jets, Ravens or Steelers. Two good defenses (Cowboys and Giants) two blow out losses. Those boys have to nut up and play like they are fighting for their lives or we can hang up any thoughts of playoffs.
Game not on FOX.
We win.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
I was thinking the same thing on Sunday.
We need a law. NO MORE GAMES ON FOX!
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Does this mean we can create a mob to kill Joe Buck too?
Cause if so, I’m in.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Oct 12, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't have helped Sunday. Kenny Albert was calling the game.
But maybe the problem Sunday was Moose Johnston or The Goose.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
I beg to differ
Joe Buck is always the problem.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Oct 12, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How can he be the problem in our game if he's not calling it?
Sorry, but I don’t understand your logic.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Joe Buck is evil incarnate
His very existence harms the greater good that is football.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Oct 13, 2010 3:12 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Baseball too
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/
Do we need an excuse?
Let me know when you’re ready, lets tar and feather that MFer.
by DisplacedTexan on Oct 12, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Which MFer are you referring to? I'm confused.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
good news
i just looked at our schedule and none of our remaining games are on fox
Awesome
14-2 finish, here we come.
A Texas Wannabe, born and raised in New Zealand. Currently located 7343miles South west of Houston.
by distant_texans_fan on Oct 12, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That's your last game on FOX actually
Unless you make the Super Bowl, which is on FOX.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
A mute point by that time.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
when are we going to be able to do in game adjustments
It seems like we can’t adjust during the game we’ll adjust at half time and hope it works when it doesn’t we are screwed we adjusted our defense at half time and we seemed to stop them then they adjusted and we didn’t
by jags52982 on Oct 12, 2010 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It drives me crazy!
I just want to scream sometimes: WHY ARE WE STILL DOING THIS? IT’S OBVIOUSLY NOT WORKING!!
I read somewhere (don’t remember the source) that the definition of insanity is repeatedly doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
That was part of the letter to Frank Bush posted a day or two ago.
A Texas Wannabe, born and raised in New Zealand. Currently located 7343miles South west of Houston.
by distant_texans_fan on Oct 12, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually I read that several years ago.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Indy, Washington, Oakland...
They outscored their opponents 27-7 in the third quarter in those three games. Hell, they even outscored New York 7-3 (although the game was already over by that point).
They’re quite capable of making adjustments. But in a game like that… What do you even do? Their first-half game-plan (with help from ineptitude on the part of the players) got so completely and utterly destroyed, they were in a pretty rough position. Run it? Failed. Quick passes? Batted down at the line. Long passes? Schaub got pressured and/or made awful decisions.
To make adjustments that are going to succeed, I think you have to have something to build on from the first half. In that game, there just wasn’t a single thing they did right that they could have replicated on a larger scale to turn things around.
It would have helped if they had considered ahead of time...
what to do in the event that things were not proceeding according to plan. I believe that’s called “having a backup plan”. Having one of those that they had practiced seems to be a smart course of action.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Worst loss is sort of relative
I’m speaking purely in terms of the Texans getting completely fuckstomped, not in terms of a heartbreaker or a demoralizing loss.
The only two losses I could think of that were near this one under Kubiak was the Jets game in 09 and the Cowboys game in 06. I’m sure there are others I’m forgetting, but those were the ones that came to mind first.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
Re: Dallas '06
Weren’t the Texans leading that one at half? I was there, and I seem to remember having a very uneasy feeling despite the fact that the Texans were up by a score of something like 6-3.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Yep.
I can remember vividly being excited about that one in the UH dorms, only to watch the Cowboys bend them over in the second half and leave me to put up with a bunch of douchebag bandwagoner* Cowboys fans for the next week.
*-As bad as this is…well, everywhere, I assure you it’s much worse when you’re getting razzed by people who are dating Cowboys fans and don’t know anything about football. And they’re in college.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Oct 12, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Slaton
Everytime I see him back there about to return a kick I get a screeching sound in my head and its Nancy Kerrigan screaming WHY! WHY!
Be happy when we lose....
because then we’re due for a win…..right???
I just don’t know anymore
GO TEXANS!!!!
Our time will come...
by Texanmaniac on Oct 12, 2010 4:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
The biggest problem I saw Sunday was that the team had NO FIRE.
Most of the day they seemed to be Zombies.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Night of the Living Dead
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
And it's not even Halloween yet!
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Brett Favre is not a zombie
Jenn Sterger has proof.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Oct 12, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
god damn that hurt
And it still does. Don’t know what else to say that hasn’t been already been said. I guess its too early to give up and chug bleach, but its not too early to be deeply concerned.
by doctexans on Oct 12, 2010 4:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
/still banging head on desk from Sunday's game.
Ooooooh, look at all the pretty birdies…
Houston Texans...forcing me to question my sanity and endangering my marriage since 2002.
by UprootedTexan on Oct 12, 2010 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm snickering over that one!
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Well
I’m of course joking, Champ Bailey is going to stay in Denver forever probably but having a real CB would be awesome even if they could mix up schemes or whatever.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 13, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey, he's a Denver guy!
That means he already fits in!
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
On any given Sunday
This season, those words, have new meaning for the entire NFL, based upon what I have seen. For Texan fans it means, we have no idea what Texan team is going to show-up. The good news is we are in first place in our division. Ah, let’s just leave it at that for now.
Tim, good post!
MrMr
On a lighter note
I got a text from my mom during the second half, “Go help em out”
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Oct 12, 2010 5:10 PM CDT reply actions
regarding Nolan...
Yesterday while flipping around the radio stations I stumbled upon the Bernard Pollard show (610 maybe) and wanna say Nolan was at the remote location as well. I could have sworn that I heard Nolan say that Cushing collided with his helmet during the pregame “getting-riled-up” huddle that you see teams do and caused Nolan to bite his own tongue…so much so that it was bleeding for awhile. I can’t image that helped him focus on the game.
Hey!
At least Chris Brown’s not on the team anymore!
Or Kris Brown
"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
You get 4 carries....
when you only get 3 yards…..and your offense only has 12 plays…….and find yourself down 21-0 in the first quarter.
"Lord, beer me strength."
nOOb here...
Longtime lurker, love what you’ve done with the place.
I have to wonder what it’s like to be Matt Turk on the sidelines watching an ill-fated rushing attempt about to transpire. I imagine it may happen something like this…
MT: “Hey Gar, looks like they’re bringin pressure. Should we take a T and re-”
GK: “STFU TURK!! YOU’RE A PUNTER! I’M A COACH! I’M A MAN!… Get your helmet, you’re up.”
by pattymcgee on Oct 12, 2010 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd and welcome...
I hope to hear more Matt Turk thoughts….sounds like a logical kind of guy.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I don't know if anyone heard...
The 49er faithful were chanting “David Carr, David Carr, David Carr….” at Candlestick last weekend.
….I’m wondering if he is a fantasy option for the Whoopie Cushings. I mean, it’s either Matt Cassell against the Texans or what is the other option? Hmmmm, I think I’ll take my chances with Matt Cassell giving the WCs his best Peyton impression.
I dub the Giants..... New York City glamor-boys
I heard that chant.
It made me happy in all the wrong ways.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
Yeah, and Matt Cassell having his Peyton moment against the Texans will make me happy in all the wrong ways....
I dub the Giants..... New York City glamor-boys
Read about it and couldn't help but snicker.
Now THAT’S a desperate team!
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
I re-watched the game today
and I feel even worse about it. I don’t know how many of you have seen Baseketball, but there’s a great moment at the beginning of the movie where the good guys lose the championship. Matt Stone says, in an interview, “Well, it was a team effort, and it took all of us working together to lose this one.” Pretty much all you can say about the Texans on Sunday.
by cubic on Oct 12, 2010 10:20 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That is a great movie
I love the start where it shows the out of control TD celebrations.
A Texas Wannabe, born and raised in New Zealand. Currently located 7343miles South west of Houston.
by distant_texans_fan on Oct 12, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions

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