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Kareem Jackson - Good Player - Bad Decision

So I decided to look at how other "elite" corners in the AFC fared early in their careers.

Want to guess what I am about to tell you?

Yep, Kareem is doing a good job for what he is being asked to do.

Antonio Cromartie did not start his first year.  That's right, he got to spend a year learning the NFL game.

Nnamdi Asomugha started only 8 games in his first TWO years.  When he finally did start for an entire season he had 14 passes defended and NO interception.

Darelle Revis did start his rookie year and had 17 passed defended and 3 interceptions.

Kareem Jackson has 5 passes defended and 1 int through 5 games. Putting him on pace for 16 PDs and 3 Ints....in other words.....He is matching Darelle Revis' rookie stats right now.

Consider also that Jackson is on a MUCH MUCH MUCH weaker defense that Revis was, and has very little support, unlike Revis.

 

Oh and Dunta Robinson this season?  3 Passes defended and no ints.....ya, just sayin.

 

Kareem is in a position that VERY VERY few rookie corners have been asked to fill, starter.

CB and QB are the two positions in the NFL where starting as a rookie is almost always a bad idea, with few exceptions.

So my point in all of this is, lay off Kareem.  He is a good player who has been the victim of a bad decision.  CBs need to sit for a year to learn the NFL game.  He does not have that luxury.

 

Yes, he is going to get burned.  The idea of a "shutdown" ROOKIE corner is not just absurd, it's criminally stupid. 

 

Kareem Jackson will likely end up being a very good CB by his second or third year, just like the other elite corners in the NFL.

 

Expecting anything more is just setting ourselves up for disappointment.


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Good points

But I ain’t gonna lay off. :-)

We haven’t put KJax in a position to succeed. I’d rather wait a couple years to make a decision about him, as I normally do. He’s been about as good as can be expected, but he shouldn’t be starting every game.

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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 13, 2010 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

For some reason

This front office loves to start rookie first round picks, no matter how poorly they play.

by SATexan on Oct 13, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

They like to start them because we need talent badly

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is in regard to our secondary

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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by nolander on Oct 13, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because before this year

Smithiak’s highest drafted corner was Molden. The highest safety? Off the top of my head I’m not sure, but I think Barber- 6th round.

by JimboTexan on Oct 14, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

5th round - Brandon Harrison in 07

Of course…can’t blame anyone for forgetting him since he was cut before the 09 season.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Oct 14, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't entirely think that was that bad of an idea

When you are going against the Colts twice a year. The theory is obviously that the only way to stop them and all their weapons would be a consistent pass rush, and of course to stop freeney.

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by nolander on Oct 15, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh

Does anybody have some sort of update on Dunta this year? I haven’t watched the Falcons since the first game, and he was torched repeatedly. I did see him make a tackle last week.

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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 13, 2010 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

See...you didn't even read my story. N0W I R SADZ.

Froom above:

Oh and Dunta Robinson this season? 3 Passes defended and no ints…..ya, just sayin.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Oct 13, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I did!

But, like Nash said, that doesn’t tell the whole story.

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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 13, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

The DVOA for #1 WRs against the Falcons is terrible.

That assumes Dunta, their mega-free agent, takes the #1 guy all the time.

28th-ranked DVOA of 38.7% with 78.8 YPG allowed.

For comparison: The Texans against #1 WRs and #2

  1. - 16th ranked DVOA of 1.3% with 52.3 YPG allowed (this is also about 6 yards lower than last season with Dunta on the team)
  2. - 26th-ranked DVOA of 23.5% with 72.8 YPG allowed.

Judging by comments from The Falcoholics…..he was overpaid….not lockdown…..has been burned (would be worse but WRs drop passes)…..but he’s tackled fairly well and bumps other CBs down on the roster which has made them better. Of course, they’re winning so they’re not going to be super critical.

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by TexansDC on Oct 13, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

.but he’s tackled fairly well

So he is actually trying now?

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Their words

I wouldn’t say that unless I’ve seen it myself.

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by TexansDC on Oct 13, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not disagreeing with you...

But PDs and interceptions are not an accurate way to gauge his performance thus far.

by Nashmeister on Oct 13, 2010 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

The other stats like TD surrendered are important, but when he has no support as a rookie, they become almost meaningless as a measure of talent.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Oct 13, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kareem Jackson is obviously not an NFL caliber starter right now...

But that doesn’t mean he won’t be one in the future. It takes corners awhile to learn the speed of the game. I think you make some good points here.

That said, it really just goes to show that the decision to make him the starter from the get go was flawed and incompetent.

by riversmccown on Oct 13, 2010 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Which is my point really.

He will be a good cornerback in this league. But not next week. He should be on the bench learning and coming in for nickel/dime plays.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Oct 13, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

well I dont think Kareem really is that much worse than brice and sherrick

so i guess getting burned and learning from his mistakes is better than sitting on the bench.

living the Texas dream

by Joe25 on Oct 13, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good post

I especially like the comparison to Revis. I’m using that on every K-Jax hater from now on. :)

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by 5stringJeff on Oct 13, 2010 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Personally

I’m not too upset with Kareem for the reasons mentioned above. Sure, I was cursing his name during the Giants game, but I cursed everybody’s name in that game.

What does upset me, however, is that our defensive coordinator seems unable to come up with a scheme that minimizes his exposure and our front office doesn’t seem willing to surround him with players good enough to compensate for his being a rookie.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 13, 2010 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Especially at FS

Man, Otogwe would look beautiful out there right now.

So would a fire hydrant, though.

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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 13, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

but how cost officiant would that fire hydrant be?

Diles-ish? or Dunta-ish? or perhaps Rashad Butler-ish?

by Draco on Oct 13, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fire hydrants are too short to play FS.

I think THIS GUY is available though.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Oct 13, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Atogwe. Cromartie. Kerry Rhodes.

So many options… But god forbid we give up one of our crap-shoot mid-round draft picks to get an established player in a season when our team is on the cusp.

by Nashmeister on Oct 13, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lay off Kareem and deflect blame to management

you’re totally right, but the hate will seem to be aimed towards KJ since he’s the one on the football field.

by goingforthecorner on Oct 13, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Cornerbacks and Quarterbacks are essentially on an island. So every mistake is amplified and has greater consequences.

People will focus more on those guys than anyone else because of their visibility.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Oct 13, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you for posting this

maybe people now can stop calling him a bust and learn to be patient with him

living the Texas dream

by Joe25 on Oct 13, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Brandon Flowers

had a trial by fire his rookie year in KC and came out his second year as a damn good #1 CB. let’s hope huh?

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by BattleRedHusker on Oct 13, 2010 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Well Wade Smith's apparently the CB Whisper
On Brandon Flowers: “I’m not surprised [Flowers is playing so well]. B-Flow was my locker neighbor. I knew his rookie year that the was going to be very good. I had [Jets CB Darrelle] Revis up in New York in his rookie year and I knew he was gonna be real good. I didn’t know he’d be as good as he was now . B-Flow reminds me a lot of him — ow they play the game and go about their business. B-Flow, if he stays healthy will be a perennial Pro Bowl type of guy.”

- Interview on the 610 radio

Revis, Flowers….next up? Jackson?

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by TexansDC on Oct 13, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where TF

do people come up with these nicknames? B-Flow? That’s about as unoriginal as it gets.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 15, 2010 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

My guess is....online nickname generaors.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Oct 15, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

they have those?

I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Oct 15, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just going to call everyone Huggy Bear from here on out.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 16, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Before I read....

any of the other comments I would like to say “Thank You”. Not like I have a man crush on Kareem, but from what I have seen, he is making rookie mistakes, but learning quickly and actually has made some pretty nice plays. And to continue to beat the dead horse, allot of the plays he has gotten “torched” on, he released his guy to the safety zone only to realize the safety was not in position. That’s on the safety, not Kareem.

I just think we ought to give the rook time before we bring out the pitchforks and torches. (insert “we don’t need torches he’s already been torched enough” joke here)

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Oct 13, 2010 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

excellent stuff

honestly, when I’ve watched kareem, its definitely been a rollercoaster. I see him tackling fairly well, missing some stuff, but really making strides every half. second half of the giants game was night and day compared to the first half. tall WRs do give him trouble, and honestly we’ve hit a stronger than ordinary crop. of our remaining schedules WR strength:
- KC – not worried; gonna be kareem’s best game; i think we improve our TE coverage with cushing pack
- Indy – they did a dece job on wayne last time, indy doesnt have those overpowering receivers, just a lot of slants (against us at least); maybe they change it up; i think kareem does fine here
- SD – malcolm floyd just might have a career day
- Jax – not worried; its all about stopping MJD and gettng something on garrard
- NYJ – braylon scares me, santonio doesnt;
- Tenn – kenny britt might break out;
- Phi – i think kareem matches up well with d-jax and maclin
- Balt – boldin is a matchup nightmare (for anyone)
- Denver – not worried;
- Jax – ditto above

basically, he’ll have to improve against the bigger WRs, but i think he’s done a decent job on the smaller speedier ones he can bump more effectively against at the LOS; he’s living and he’s learning – i just wanted to see an improvement, and he’s shown me that. but god, do i wish we had at least 1 long corner like cromartie to at least have a chance against the 6’2+ receivers.

KP

by stanfordkp on Oct 14, 2010 2:24 AM CDT reply actions  

It's better for him to make his mistakes now than later.

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by bone31crusher on Oct 14, 2010 4:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Another thing to look at...

I was checking out the Texans DVOA versus types of receivers (http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef) and was surprised to see that they are remarkably average against #1 WR’s but terrible against every other spot. That probably has to have some connection to KJ

by Jason Brown on Oct 15, 2010 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

WHO CALLED IN on 610 RADIO yesterday at 5:30???

was it you Texans Forever?

Because someone called in with entire POST word for word on the show and followed with a question.

Don't ask me! Ask Google, you dumb Yahoo!

by Andre4000 on Oct 15, 2010 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Haha yep that was me!

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Oct 15, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also called in this morning after "Larry" and I went off on Frank Bush and Titan Rick.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Oct 15, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want both clips meow!

I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Oct 15, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of calling in...

I called into 1260 The Zone here in San Antonio and asked what was up with the D-line not getting any pressure…the hosts were like “They just aren’t executing, bottom line.” I was good with that, and then not 10 minutes later they had a live interview with Antonio Smith where they said “This guy named Calvin wants to know how you guys are going to get more pressure on the QB?” while I’m thinking great, Antonio Smith is going to come to my house and assault me.

FYI, he calls his sack dance the Ninja Assassin Dance of Death or something like that.

by Calvin Paquette on Oct 15, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

So when you stop posting....

we know you’ve been Ninja Assassinated?

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Oct 15, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's if Antonio can get to him

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by H-town Fanatic on Oct 16, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

lol his dance. His "raise sword and then sheath it" dance?

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Oct 16, 2010 5:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

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