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It's apparent one player isn't going to turn this defense into the Steel Curtain or anything of the sort, but we need help none the less.  So, channel your inner Smithiak for a day and tell me as GM of the Texans, what would you do before the Tuesday deadline?

A.  Go get a veteran corner or safety who can actually cover.

B.  Go get a D tackle to help with the pass rush.

C.  Fire Frank Bush and change the scheme entirely over the next two weeks and get defensive help

D.  Fuck it.  Trade for Steve Smith and see if we can outscore our opponents every week.

Star-divide

What do I want to see happen?  I think Albert Haynesworth wants to show everyone he can play.  He loves the 4-3 scheme and would love to come to a team who needs his help.  Truth is, I don't care about his character issues are and it's clear he doesn't want to play for the Redskins.  Additionally, the Skins need a back like Slaton to compliment Torrain.  I say a 5th rounder and Slaton for Albert.  It's kind of a win/win IMO. 

If no Haynesworth deal is in the cards, then I'd be fine with getting a decent FS or corner.  Maybe McGee from Buffalo or Godfrey from Carolina for a draft pick.  Either way, we need to make a move. 

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If we do get Albert.

what happens on passing downs? cause antonio smith goes do dt with okoye. Don’t get me wrong i think Big al would help, just don’t see a trade happing.

by southpaw70 on Oct 18, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Fat Albert likes to rush the passer.

His biggest gripe against 3-4 is that he is not allowed to do that.

Assmass alone does not a NT make.

by kaizer on Oct 18, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

My guess, Okoye comes out

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

As soon as that sack happened, I would've killed for some internet access

Before I even started celebrating, I just thought of the reactions here after Amino recorded his sack

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by Autra on Oct 18, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haynesworth would be part of a rotation

Cody and Mitchell would see les playing time.

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 9:16 AM CDT reply actions  

The same Shaun Cody that stepped up when nobody did?

Im usually all for sitting Cody, but he actually did good during the game.

And Haynesworth playing for the Texans? I don’t like the idea at all bro.

I don’t think that anything is gonna happen trade wise. Expect a couple of FA signings to add some depth and that’s about it. This isn’t like baseball where you can just trade for a player and expect them to fit right in and start pitching or bat in the fourth spot. There’s different offensive and defensive philosophies to be considered here. Obviously, Kollar’s DT philosophy is quick, speedy, small. Not big, disruptive, eat you alive.

I don’t blame you though.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm well aware of a learning curve...

when it comes to football, but you do realize a base 4-3 for a DT isn’t considered a rocket science position. It’s a few stunts here and there, but Albert would be brought in primarily to stuff the run and apply pressure up the middle. This is something we’ve lacked since the the inception of the team.

Not only that, but you’re giving the guy two weeks to learn the system as opposed to one. As for a FS position, there’s no secret to a vanilla cover 2 scheme. If you did bring in a guy like Godfrey, then you can simply go man-to-man, have Pollard in the box and Godfrey can be your ballhawk over the top. It would a take a couple weeks beyond the two weeks they have right now to work the kinks out, but it’d be better IMO.

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I already mentioned Bill Kollar's DT philosophy.

I don’t think I need to explain it again. Haynesworth doesn’t fit in to that. We’re not trying to collapse the pocket. We want our DT’s to be small and quick enough to squeeze through OL’s. Just like what Amino did a couple of games back against the redskins if I remember it correctly.

I love how you mentioned our red carpet zone then mentioned our CB’s playing man.

Why bring somebody new to learn the system when you already Nolan or other CB’s than can be moved to safety that are familiar with the system?

I just have a feeling that it’s not really our players sucking it up out there. It’s the way our defensive coordinator is utilizing them. You got to play and put emphasis on your strengths. And Frank Bush is not doing that.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

This philosophy you mentioned...

does it stop opposing offenses from moving the ball downfield without any real effort involved?

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Usually its paired with quick linebackers and quick good safeties

The problem with our D is there doesn’t seem to be any sort of overarching philosophy anywhere other then the line.

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

And even THAT is wildly disconnected from a 4-3 under defense.

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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 18, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a Jimmy Johnson Tampa 2 Cover Under Zone

Remember?

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sometimes

except when in the 2nd half he changes it to something just as ineffective.

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that's why I brought up Frank Bush.

Who’s to say that our defensive players can’t take us to the play offs? I think it’s the DC that we have a problem with.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both players and DC probably share the blame

Frank Bush cannot tackle for the players. At the same time, Bush’s basic approach, towards addressing issues relating to execution (missed tackles/assignments) by players, has been to simplify the playbook. That indicates that Bush lacks confidence in the players. By simplifying the playbook, he is making the game easier for the players from a mental standpoint, but at the same time makes it easier for the opposing offenses to game plan against us. The defense had a decent, if not good, game against the Colts when we presented different looks, and moved players around to throw Manning off, even getting him to burn a timeout. Sadly, that kind of planning seems to be an exception to the norm for Bush.

Assmass alone does not a NT make.

by kaizer on Oct 18, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously

I question the football intelligence of anyone that suggests fat Albert. He is the exact opposite of what this team is about

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by DaGoaT on Oct 18, 2010 11:03 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

It doesn't apply to our defensive philosophy.

When you think about our DT’s, think of the Colts DT’s.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

So we need to be one step ahead of the Colts

Preferably with that step on Fivehead

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

none?

My body has built a tolerance to bleach. My favorite flavor is Lemon.

by BattleRedHusker on Oct 18, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kick returns

And he rotates on the line. He was very active on Sunday, I must say.

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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 18, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, the million dollar question

How much are you willing to sacrifice in order to win?

You do realize all these high character guys we’ve signed over the years has produced jack shit, don’t you?

I’m not advocating Mr. McNair bring in a bunch of bad apples, but it seems to me our defense is in dire need of an upgrade on the d-line or in the secondary. There just so happens to be a guy in Washington who was the most dominent DT in the game a couple seasons ago and he wants to go back to a 4-3. It’s simple logic. Tell me you knew.

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by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

The problem is

He wasn’t the most dominant DT in the game a couple of seasons ago. That would be Haloti Ngata. Haynesworth was in a contract year that fueled him to play harder. Without motivation, this guy won’t do jack shit.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

My plan includes maximum gain for minimal sacrifice

Just see below

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's my list of possible moves

1. Resign Jeremiah Johnson with Demeco going on IR
2. Trade Slaton & Okam to the Redskins for Haynesworth
3. Trade a 1st or 2nd pick to Carolina for Richard Marshall
4. Cut Paymah
5. Trade Eugene Wilson & a 4th or 5th pick to the Bears for Danieal Manning
6. Sign Dexter Jackson to be our KR.

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Man, just realized how much I've changed my stance on Haynesworth
As much as Haynesworth in Houston makes sense, I just don’t see it happening

Sure, he fits a need. Sure, he’s the kind of player we’re looking for as a NT. Sure at 3 years for $16M/$9M guaranteed he’s affordable. The real question is how much do the Redskins want for him. I doubt the #20 pick would be enough with the possibility of either the #2 or #3 pick being traded for him.

Also the question would be how much effort would we get from him if we did acquire him. He played hard enough to get paid & once he did get paid, the Redskins didn’t see much from him. Also does anyone remember that incident where he stomped on the head of another player whose helmet came off? I’m pretty sure Bob McNair & Rick Smith does. As much sense as it would make from a football sense, there’s no way I see it as a possibility.

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Apr 10, 2010 11:55 PM CDT reply actions

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Chris Johnson CB Raiders is supposedly available

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2010/10/18/1758705/nfl-trade-rumors-deadline-oakland-raiders-chris-johnson-thomas-howard?show_comments=true

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Thomas Howard as well?

interesting….

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rolando McClain, Scrabble, and Michael Huff.

Make it happen now. kthxbye.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Oct 18, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously....

Rick, make a move.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Oct 18, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think I would die.

That would be so awesome.

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by Autra on Oct 18, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

McClain not likely

Howard, Scrabble, & Huff? Now that might work

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

/drools

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-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huff is a strong safety isn't he?

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, Free Safety, Tyvon Branch is their Strong Safety

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well then THAT is the trade

that we should make. A good FS will make a huge impact on our passing D right now.

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

No so fast

according to Jordann it will take years for Huff to learn our system. Don’t waste your time on a proven veteran like Huff.

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh shut up

there is a big fuck difference between simply not fitting a system and having to learn it. As a safety all he has to do is sit up top and provide support. Don’t be a maroon.

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry that was a little harsh

but there is a difference between simply not fitting into the system and needing to learn it.

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was paraphrasing

I didn’t think your comments were aimed at me.

I’m all for a Huff deal. I’d donate a testicle right now if we could get our mittens on him.

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

We left our mittens in San Fransisco

so that won’t work

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Besides

It would be the other way around anyway. He would get on Mittens.

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by UprootedTexan on Oct 18, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't started on you yet

And I really hope that you don’t make me.

I present facts against your speculations, so now your implying that im ignorant?

Oh great. We got a Texans version of BIGBADBRAD in the making over here.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

A philisophy isn't a fact...

Implying Haynesworth wouldn’t work here is clearly speculation and an educated guess on your part based on a defensive philosophy. There are no facts in that statement. We’re all speculating here, buddy.

You are hell bent on stating the scheme and coaching is broke and bringing in a proven player to bolster the defense is a waste of time. What facts can you provide me with that will back that up? None. I don’t have any facts either. Sorry you had to find out this way.

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you had just a tiny bit of reading comprehension

You would know that I wasn’t presenting Bill Kollar’s philosophy as a fact.

And can you tell me how speculation and educated guess ended up in the same sentence?

Im not hell bent on stating the scheme and coaching is broke. Im simply stating the obvious that our scheme isn’t working. Oh, and it’s spelled with a “N” at the end. Just in case you were wondering

Can you also tell me how Haynesworth is a proven player? Just because he had two good seasons? By your reasoning, Steve Slaton is a proven player because he had a great rookie year so we should be able to trade him for a 1st round draft pick or maybe Darelle Revis?

Do you really need me to provide you facts when you claim to be a Texans fan? You should already know how Albert Haynesworth is if your a “fanatic” right?

And I was aware that you don’t have any facts either. You never had credibility to begin with, and what little respect I had for you just went down the drain.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the grammar lesson, skippy.
You should already know how Albert Haynesworth is if your a "fanatic" right?

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pointing out an error in one of my sentences

and posting an internet meme without responding to any of my arguments (stooping to your level here) is so not full of win.

Congratulations. You’re my new Bryan2193081-542725.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying Haynesworth is going to solve all of our problems...

The guy dominated the line for two seasons which tells me the talent is there. Especially for that position. He obviously has issues between his ears and is a “me” guy, but you can’t deny he is a dominent player when he wants to be.

The difference between Steve Slaton and Albert Haynesworth is the position he plays. I can give you ton of example of RBs who had one and done seasons as producers. Dorsey Levens won a Super Bowl whilst running for 1300+ yards. We never heard from him again. Slaton is in dangerous territory right now, but I wouldn’t say he is done.

 I also wouldn’t compare him to a DT position either. It’s asinine to do so, because one year bad ass RBs are much easier to find than dominent DTs who have proven themselves over a longer period of time. Albert is 29 and far from being over the hill. He’s selfish and not playing for his team with all that money he made via his signing bonus. Sometimes a change of scenery and a defense a player caters to more than the other will fuel a his willingness to play hard again. I could be wrong, but its worth a shot in a non-cap year.

S’all

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by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeebus.

If I can buy some reading comprehension pills for you, I would. But sadly, they don’t exist. I guess you’re just going to have to live with that cancerous tumor full of stupid in your brain.

Im not comparing a DT to a RB. Thanks for pointing that out by the way. I didn’t catch that they play different positions. You keep saying that Haynesworth is a proven player because of two productive seasons. Of course you didn’t consider anything else. You’re forgetting that he’s like that cancerous tumor full of stupid that you have in your brain. You bring him in to the locker room, he’s sure to cause controversy and provide distractions that could derail our play off run.

Everybody in the NFL has talent. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t have made it to the NFL. But it’s shitty work ethics that makes talent irrelevant. That’s the case with him.

Now can you address the rest of my comment? Still not conceding the fact that you have some reading comprehension problems? You don’t have to. Just keep responding because that’s enough to prove my point.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

What else do you want me to reply to?

Everything else you posted in that comment are implied as rhetorical questions.

What else do you want from me? Should I acknowledge that “broke” should be “broken”? Okay…you win.

You derived from my comments that my basis for asserting Albert Haynesworth as a proven veteran was the equivalent to saying Steve Slaton was a proven veteran. I told you in not so many words that you were wrong for making that comparison because RBs should never be compared to DTs as far as resumes go. Basically, I was calling you a douche.

Look, everyone was afraid Fat Albert would pull this shit if/when he got his big pay day. I’m not denying that, but that didn’t stop teams from offering him big money. What if he resigned with the Titans? You think Albert would still be a classless shitbag? I don’t. I think he’d be just fine. Again, I’m speculating.

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Google "Reading Comprehension"

It should help you out.

A philisophy isn’t a fact…
Implying Haynesworth wouldn’t work here is clearly speculation and an educated guess on your part based on a defensive philosophy. There are no facts in that statement. We’re all speculating here, buddy.

You are hell bent on stating the scheme and coaching is broke and bringing in a proven player to bolster the defense is a waste of time. What facts can you provide me with that will back that up? None. I don’t have any facts either. Sorry you had to find out this way.

“There’s two kinds of coaches, them that’s fired and them that’s gonna be fired.” ~ Bum Phillips
by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions

You first stated the fact that philosophy isn’t a fact. You were claiming that im using Kollar’s philosophy as a fact when you’ve clearly understood that im not stating his philosophy as a fact. Im presenting the fact that Kollar subscribes to that philosophy. Unless we make any changes with our coaching staff, your man-crush for Haynesworth will never be realized. No matter how much you speculate and repeat it in your head.

In your original post, you told me to channel my “inner rick smith” and I did. Rick Smith would never trade for Albert Haynesworth because he does NOT fit in our defensive system. Even if our defensive system is a defensive failure. Introducing an unknown element to it is not the right way to fix it.

And who the fuck is stupid enough to trade for Steve Slaton. Who the fuck thinks that he and some lower round draft pick would warrant a decent player? Oh that’s right. The same stupid fucktard that thinks bringing in Albert Haynesworth is a good idea and Steve Slaton is the perfect compliment for Ryan FUCKING Torain.

Seriously dude. There’s a fine line between speculation and plain stupidity. And you’re obviously not stuck in the middle of it.

Then you stated that I keep asking for a coaching change but I don’t think that bringing in a “proven player” can bolster the defense.

It’s true. It’s not going to fix anything when the scheme is broken. So why not bring in a different defensive staff first before bringing in a huge gigantic lazy fuck DT. If we wanted a planetoid for a DT, we wouldve drafted one. But we didn’t. Why? BECAUSE IT DOESN’T FIT OUR D-LINE PHILOSOPHY. WHY DO YOU KEEP IGNORING THIS? WILL A STRING OF CAPPED SENTENCES MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS EVEN BETTER? WOULD IT BE BETTER IF I BOLD IT FOR YOU?

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn.

You got me.

Isn’t his speed like 97 in Madden 09?

Im pretty sure we can convince Al Davis that it’s still 2009 right?

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

what is also significant about what just happened

is that I got to say “The Raiders FTW” for the first time ever.

by Bobbythegreat on Oct 18, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Feels weird doesn't it?

Even people in the bay area don’t say or type that.

/shrugs

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ssssoooo what are trying to say?

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the response.

Im soooooo going to have fun not acknowledging your pathetic existence anymore.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Enjoy it

Your little rant there tells me everything I need to know about you. All it took was me ducking and dodging your original point for a couple of posts and you went off like a dirty shirt.

Dude, I just played you like a merchant kike plays a fiddle. Keep flailing away, cupcake.

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's all I needed.

For you to acknowledge that your brain doesn’t have the capacity to formulate coherent responses when people call you out.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reminder To All Parties Involved

Here.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Oct 19, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Understood and rec'd

Thank you.

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 19, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're the one who went to the grammar smack.

Remember?

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine was a force of habit.

Yours was a result of poor public school education. Do you live in Methopotamia? Because that would explain your want of Albert Haynesworth.

Still waiting for a relevant response.

Which I know im not getting.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Force of habit or not...

you KYOA’d on that one with your own little error. Next time you go that route, you might want to proof read your own shit about six times before hitting the submit button. It’s blog/messagboarding 101. I’m here for you, man.

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The depth charts have him listed as FS

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The real question is how much would we have to give up for these guys?

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

4th rounder for huff?

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

For Scrabble, we probably talking about 2 1st round picks

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol..

i picked up huff on madden after my first season i tried to get scrabble but the raiders no deal :(

I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Oct 18, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dare is say this...

Phillip Buchanon for Steve Slaton?

Anyone…anyone?

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

And THIS

is the comment that I was waiting for.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, just no

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too soon?

"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips

by H-town Fanatic on Oct 18, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

100 years from now is too soon

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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 18, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly

There are a lot of potential trade possibilities out there, many of which would genuinely help the team.

I put our chances at making a deal just under 0%.

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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 18, 2010 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Nah,

I say it’s exactly at 0%

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need a saftey who wants a new contract.

who is a solid above average free safety. He would be worth a second or third rounder. Next year free saftey has to be adressed early in the draft unless Nolan improves all year into a solid f.s. I think adding a solid pass defending saftey for the next 4 years would be well worth a third or second round pick.Such a presence would dramatically improve some of our horrible stats and percentages pertaining to the pas defense.

by kmartinez on Oct 18, 2010 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

If we didn't pursue a reliable FS during the offseason

I don’t see us doing that now.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would say we where more comfortable

before watching all 3 of our FS suck.

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

But if we play all three of them in a rotation,

that would hide their level of suck right? Or will their collective amount of suck explode into a big ball of fire?

I wish we signed Atogwe.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, collective suck

Would only create a worm hole in the space time continuum with a gravitational pull so powerful that even light itself would not be able to escape. I still think the worm hole would be better than Eugene Wilson, though.

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by UprootedTexan on Oct 18, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right.

Then we’ll just stick with our semtex plan for Jerruh’s stadium.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

"We're sticking with the goru we have. We have to play better football."

Anyone want to bet AGAINST me on that being the response of Kubiak?

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Oct 18, 2010 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like the actual excerpt

from one of Kubiak’s pressers.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will

You forgot the part where he says “It’s on me, guys.”

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by UprootedTexan on Oct 18, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would say our needs are

DC > FS > MLB > DE > CB

A solid DC could improve the healthy players on the roster. I know thats a stretch, since we’re actually 33rd in defense right now.

FS is the biggest glaring need, and then somehow getting Pollard to try for the ball instead of the hit.

Capn Meco will be missed, I think we have to tryout some MLBs this week.

One of our DEs we have signed recently has to work out. I don’t see much movement there. CBs are probably set, but should improve with experience and the law of averages.

Our needs probably won’t be addressed in this order, but I feel thats where we are.

We have some trade options, but I believe the posters who say it prolly aint happenin. I think we’ll see a FA MLB signing, and maybe another try at a FA CB.

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by texanphil on Oct 18, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

wat no wrong

DC > FS > CB
ftfy

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn Albuquerque Isotopes

having a better defensive rank than we do.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

TCU has the best defense in Texas right now

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

False.

Bill White does.

Did you see those commercials? MAN! A thing of beauty.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have their hat

but why the hell are we talking about AAA defense?

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because we have a pee-wee caliber one.

Does that make sense? No. But in my head it does.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you know they are a real team?

They are the AAA affiliate of the dodgers, and yes they are named for the team in the Simpsons.

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by nolander on Oct 18, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had no idea.

I mean I had an idea that the dodgers suck balls, but yeah.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question

Is it trolling if you go to the cowboys site and just read their posts? I’m only laughing on the inside.

It takes a big man to cry, but it takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man.

by Remember the Alamo on Oct 18, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

No

Laugh away.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Oct 18, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want to trade a 1st rounder and Matt Leinart to the Raiders for Namdi.

Before you say they would never do that trade, remember I am talking about the Raiders here and who they would actually pick up with a 1st rounder would be no better than Leinart to begin with, so they would basically be getting 2 1st rounders.

by Bobbythegreat on Oct 18, 2010 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah me too

That would mean that we would have at least one CB and significantly improve our pass D.

by Bobbythegreat on Oct 18, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heck yeah.

A CB that can cover half of the secondary? Even Eugene Wilson can look like a viable FS is that were to happen.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Oct 18, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

which is why

if there is any way it can be done, it needs to be done. Without some kind of help in the secondary and or pass rush this season is likely to be a bust.

by Bobbythegreat on Oct 18, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we afford him?

He gets like 16Mil per year and while this year is cap free will we be on the hook once the new CBA is reached?

It takes a big man to cry, but it takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man.

by Remember the Alamo on Oct 18, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

The Raiders screwed his salary up

but I’d do it in a heartbeat.

I’d also trade a 1 to Carolina for Richard Marshall and give him a good deal.

I’d trade a mid-round pick to Buffalo for Terrence McGee.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Oct 18, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

also

he only makes 15 and not all of that is guaranteed.

by Bobbythegreat on Oct 18, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we should afford him no matter what

I want to win this year and if we have to let someone go next year than so be it.

by Bobbythegreat on Oct 18, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we get Tim to post a rumor about a trade of Scrabble to Texans?

From a “reliable source, close to the team”.

Assmass alone does not a NT make.

by kaizer on Oct 18, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Does Tim look like BBS to you?

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by UprootedTexan on Oct 18, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

My bad. I should have elaborated.

The purpose of the post would not be to get hits, but to get Texans FO the information that such a thing is possible.

Assmass alone does not a NT make.

by kaizer on Oct 18, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'ed for purty picture

As I was harping on all last year, aside from the Colts, we played horrible offenses. We stuck 8 in the box and dared the likes of JaMarcus Russell to beat us.

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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 18, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think all of our mistakes on offense (i.e. pick sixes, hb passes)

really masked our ineptitude on defense. The other teams could score on us before our defense hit the field. Oh and btw, i did remember you liked shitty charts so consider it your birthday present.

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"Its always good to have the same number of takeoffs as you do landings."
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by BabyBeezy03 on Oct 18, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

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