Trade Now, Rick
Lord, I wasn't born a gamblin' man,
Being complacent and doin' nothing' I can,
When it's time for tradin', I hope you'll understand,
That I wasn't born a gambling man.
As has been oft mentioned in these here parts, the Houston Texans have put together quite the collection of young, outstanding talent. Now, not next year, NOW, is the time to start taking advantage of our unique opportunity.
However, I seriously doubt Bob McNair, Gary Kubiak, or especially Rick Smith see the opportunity presented to the Texans. Even with our execrable coaching, we are 4-2 and sit atop the AFC South.
First, let me take a step back. Especially when this blog started, I harped constantly on the need for nothing but talent acquisition, regardless of position, but especially along the lines. To a large extent, this has happened. Just for fun, we get to toss in Matt Schaub and Arian Foster and Brian Cushing and other talented, young players. Like the mule with the spinning wheel, what are we going to do with this talent?
Nope, I'm not saying we cash it in. I AM saying, however, that now's the time to cash in a little of our future for today.
With few exceptions, the window for playoff opportunity is relatively small for most teams. Simply look at the turnover of playoff contenders from 2008 to 2009 to this year as examples. You take advantage of opportunities when you can, and I'll be damned if I'm not willing to sacrifice H-Town Fanatic's right testicle to make it happen. We have gaping holes, which are apparent to everybody on the planet not named Frank Bush. Something must be done to fix our problems. Capn' 'Meco's injury yesterday further complicates matters.
What I would like to see us do is trade some tomorrow for today by sending 2011 and 2012 draft picks to fill a couple of holes. First, we can talk about Troy Nolan all day, but he's still essentially a rookie. I want a free safety who can help our young cornerbacks, especially against the pass. Remember the jump from Dominique Barber and John Busing after we acquired Bernard Pollard? BEST DEFENSE EVER!, amirite? As poorly as EWWWWwwww as played, we should expect a similar impact at FS, though probably not as strongly.
We need to acquire a true middle linebacker, if either to replace or supplement the position. Zac Diles, while even more cost-effective as a MLB, simply does not have the requisite skills for the position. The best current option at MLB is Darryl Sharpton, who also happens to be a rookie with limited experience. As far as signing somebody off the street? Why are they on the street? 'Nuf ced.
Speaking of "off the street," the signing of Adewale Ogunleye hasn't exactly worked out, unless you like costly personal fouls. We still haven't adequately addressed losing Connor Barwin and replacing him with somebody, anybody who can get to the quarterback at least occasionally.
I won't even mention nose tackle, though Shaun Cody was probably our best defender yesterday.
But, in football, trades just don't happen. I don't know if there's some unwritten rule or secret society or what, but meaningful deadline deals almost never happen. Moving Braylon Edwards to the Jets was the only major deal last year, and that one had "other" undertones.
Sadly, we won't make a strong move. Smith has proven to be complacent with our horrendous FS play. With our youth, we can afford to sell out the future to a certain degree, but I very seriously doubt he'll "risk" trading future draft picks (insert a present value joke here). NOW is the time to make a statement, to make a push. We cannot afford complacency right now, Rick. Make a deal.
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You don't understand the genius of Rick's plan!
Just wait four more years, we’ll have everything addressed then!
(This is a bell I’ve been beating for at least a year and I’m glad someone else is on it today.)
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somewhere at team HQ today...
Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak are reading this and saying to themselves: “wait – we’re allowed to make trades? I don’t just have to wait for Denver to cut a player?? Cool!”
by grungedave on Oct 18, 2010 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Potential targets:
1. CLeveland – Rumor has it that Shaun Rogers is up on the block. He would fill the center of the line nicely with Okoye and maybe give us the edge we need for the ends to get free. Cleveland wants a WR or CB.
2. Raiders – They have said that anyone, including Asomugha (and his billion dollar contract), are up for grabs. They want market value for Nnamdi. I say give up a pick for him in a heartbeat. The big contract is the real problem though.
3. Skins – Haynesworth. We all know about this one…..is it worth it?
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
I would trade a #1 for Namdi, only if he restructures his contract. Front load it, so it wont affect the cap next year.
As for Haynesworth, I would trade Slaton and a 5th round pick.
Nnamdi only has 27 mil guaranteed
if he is traded he will only have one more year left under contract.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 18, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
For Haynesworth, I'd give up Slaton & Okam, no picks
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
He didn't to shit....
until it came time for contract negotiations.
If I remember right the season he was coming up for free agency he played his ass off, so Tennessee gave him a RFA offer loaded with performance incentives. Base was crap, but if he met performance levels he got more money. They got one more good year out of him because he wanted to meet those incentives.
Then when he hit UFA, they didn’t want to pay the money he wanted….Washington did and look what they got. He has played like shit the whole time there….all the while taking every bit of money he can.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
NOTHING! NOTHING! NOTHING!......
is worth giving up for that low-life, over grown baby Albert Haynesworth. I don’t know you well, TexansForever, you have a cool screenname and all, but if you mention Haynesworth again, I will track you down and insult you in front of your mother………
"...and if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surely means that I don't know". SL
by Southern Lion on Oct 18, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Haynesworth is a douchenozzle, no doubt.
But maybe in OUR locker room, he learns a thing or two.
Think of where he has been. Titans and Redskins….not exactly the most character filled organizations.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 18, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Point taken...
..but I just don’t see him as worth the risk.
"...and if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surely means that I don't know". SL
by Southern Lion on Oct 18, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeff Fisher isn't a coach you'd say isn't in control.
And he didn’t seem all that sad to see Fat Albert go.
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Because even HE....
only saw Haynesworth really produce when a contract was on the line.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Haynesworth is not coming here
If Shanahan won’t put up with him, no way Kubiak will want him. I would trade a #1 for Scrabble. The Raiders don’t have a #1 from the Richard Seymour trade.
A #1 for a PROVEN Corner back is a good trade in my book.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 18, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Sadly...
Even with all the would be’s and could be’s, in the end it is the NFL. Front Office’s are afraid to make big splash moves, and in the NFL you rarely have two organizations willing to make them at the same time. Sure, you might be able to grab Shaun Rogers, but would both Cleveland AND Houston make the deal?
If you look at the last few years, most trades are simply straight picks for players, with the ocassional mediocre talent plus a pick for a really great player. I’m not sure why it’s that way in the NFL, but it really needs to change. The one thing in baseball that makes it fun to watch is the trade deadline trades. They change the entire landscape of a team, and they pan out more often than not (for both teams even). I suppose the MLB’s developmental minor league teams help with that a lot, too.
It’s time to realize that the chances of draft picks panning out from the second round on are worse than the chances of a currently good to excellent player staying good to excellent. Injuries cancel each other out as a draft pick can injured just as likely as any other player. Really, the only difference is potential, and if you’re willing to sacrifice known commodity for potential…well, then you belong in the NFL I guess. Teams value draft picks too too much, and as such, I say we should leverage our picks and take what’s out there.
We won’t…but we should.
how come very few people think like this?
I agree w/ u Texans4ever… Nnamdi should be sportin Steel Blue in week 7. If money and draft picks is all it would take to get the best corner in the league, it’s ridiculous to watch this trainwreck w/o trying to compromise a slice of our “future.”
Buffalo’s Terrence McGee (if healthy)
Oakland is open to deal any and everyone: Michael Huff….Scrabble…..both legit options due to age.
Carolina’s Richard Marshall
Denver’s Champ Bailey
Washington’s Albert Haynesworth
Options are out there….
"Lord, beer me strength."
I wonder what it would take to get Huff and Scrabble?
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1st, 2nd, 5th, & a crap load of money
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
So
You want Kareem Jackson, Ben Tate, and Sherrick McManis and Bob McNair’s money? Sold.
Hell Scrabble has a huge contract & Huff is still making 1st round money
That’s why I say a lot of money is needed
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 19, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
scrabble's contract won't be so bad if he gets traded.
The guaranteed money in his contract isn’t too crazy.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Kubiak on the live presser just said they not lookin for secondary help
Said “You wont see us chasing some veteran guys out there. We’re goin with what we have”
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
I am hoping against hope that that's a misdirection play by Kubiak
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
The only misdirection play Kubiak knows...
is taking it in the pooper
by HTown4Eva on Oct 18, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously
hope he is just saying that to throw people off. It’s clear, windex clean clear, that we need veteran help in the secondary.
Well Scurfield tweeted this
Kubiak said he and GM Rick Smith are “talking, looking, everything” to try to replace Ryans & help the defense
Hope Scurfield is correct.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I direct you to the following prophetic comment I posted at 1:35 pm today:
“We’re sticking with the group we have. We have to play better football.” Anyone want to bet AGAINST me on that being the response of Kubiak?
I will be accepting sports bets and reading palms all evening.
Ok…so not like it was hard to predict.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 18, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He would be right.
They do have to play better football. Plugging in Asomugha doesn’t change the fact that everybody else misses tackles, Mario and Antonio Smith only show up every other week, McCain, Kareem, and Pollard still can’t cover, and that I wouldn’t trust Eugene Wilson to bag my groceries (I said paper, not plastic! Hey, don’t just let that item on the conveyor belt go right by you).
Why, I say I say, we’re just lookin’ all sorts of awful this year.
HA!
If EWwww, the Stone Handed Zombie, Eugene Wilson didn’t have some fine nicknames already, I’d toss out: Clean Up on Aisle 9 as a new one.
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There's room for more.
Didn’t Idi Amin have like, thirty nicknames? Wilson is responsible for a few crimes against humanity as well, so it seems justified.
by Nashmeister on Oct 18, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kareem would be fine as a nickel
corner I think. Adding a real FS also will help. I really want to believe Frank is so timid because he knows the players aren’t very good, and if we gave him talent he would actually pretend to care.
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How is EWWWWWW young?
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Compared to dirt, water, the universe and that package of Twinkies I just found under the bed.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Oct 18, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
My choices?
Get scrabble for our first and slaton
Get Rodgers for jacoby
by AllenOU on Oct 18, 2010 3:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
That leaves us too thin at WR,
and we all saw how punt returns looked last week.
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Sorry, I think there are more half-decent options left out there at WR than corner and defensive tackle.
no way
Jacoby is extremely useful for this team in special teams. It’s time to trade Slaton. Ward is providing excellent relief for Foster and Slaton’s start/stop excercise on kickoffs is just painful to watch.
Plus we can always sign Jeremiah Johnson to be the #3 RB for this season, & we still have Ben Tate for next season
So Slaton is very expendable
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 19, 2010 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Or promote Chris Ogbonnaya.
If he can pass-block, he’s a great option as a 3rd-down back. I would prefer Johnson. I don’t know why he had to be cut, he looked great in preseason.
Cut due to injury
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 19, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Personally, I'd only be interested in some Secondary help
But we already know that Kubiak has said he is going forward with what he has.
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by distant_texans_fan on Oct 18, 2010 3:45 PM CDT reply actions
cause he's a kiss ass who doesn't want to give up his cushy job
without all the Texans “info” he breaks people would never talk to him
Since we're talking trades
Could we trade Frank Bush to Methopotamia for…I don’t know, maybe a sandwich or something?
Hey! I can dream, can’t I?
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by UprootedTexan on Oct 18, 2010 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
For Futurama Ref.
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by distant_texans_fan on Oct 18, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
For rec’ing (is that a word?) a Futurama reference, even when I didn’t recognize it!
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by UprootedTexan on Oct 18, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd because you mentioned trading Frank Bush.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Hey, if Jon Gruden can get traded to Tampa
and Bill Belichick to New England, why not Rice Cake? Heck, he’d be our secret weapon against the BE-SFs on the inside.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Oct 18, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't Herm Edwards get traded once for draft picks?
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 19, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
the hell with kubiak
Reverend Pimp Daddy
by jahunter221 on Oct 18, 2010 3:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah! Fuck that guy!
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the hell with kubiak
Reverend Pimp Daddy
by jahunter221 on Oct 18, 2010 3:53 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
oh did i mention..............
The hell with kubiak……..
Reverend Pimp Daddy
by jahunter221 on Oct 18, 2010 3:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Stop being such a tool
you aren’t being whitty or funny just a tool
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Reminder
here.
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We Are Trading - We Need MORE Tight Ends?
Just saying – don’t be surprised
"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach
trading is a pipe dream
Its like free agency period all over again when everyone thought we should sign Peppers or Brandon Marshall. Its unrealistic and impractical, and it wouldn’t solve our problems anyway. Our problem is we have a non aggressive, passive zone defensive scheme with no creativity to the pass rush. I doubt Frank Bush will get fired sadly, so what would be best for the team would be for Kubiak to sit down with Bush and say, “look, what you are doing isn’t working. If we are going to improve you are going to have to change, and change now.” Bush needs to stop worrying about inexperience or ‘keeping things simple’ and just start unleashing the dogs. I wanna see less zone coverage, I wanna see jailbreak blitzes, I wanna see corner and safety blitzes, I wanna see a 5 man defensive line, I wanna see the whole front line on their feet and moving around instead of being in a stance. Bush has to look at it and say, “it can’t get any worse than what I have been putting on the field so far, fuck it let the dogs out.”
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by DaGoaT on Oct 18, 2010 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
^^Totally agree with this.
“… I wanna see jailbreak blitzes …let the dogs out.”
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Indeed
We should grow some balls and blitz a lot more.
My dream Super Bowl XLV: Houston 52, Dallas 3.
PLEEEEEAAASE
Heard rumor Denver wants 4th rounder for Champ . Kubes pick up the freakin phone call your buddies in Denver and MAKE. THE. FREAKIN. DEAL. PLEEEEAAASE
That's irrelevant..
Champ Bailey’s ball sack could play corner better than Kareem Jackson right now.
by leacheatsbabies on Oct 18, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
faint praise...
I passed a couple of traffic cones today that had better reflexes, balance and I swear one of them shouted “ball” and the other turned and looked.
by DilloTex on Oct 18, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I still like Stroud
Marcus Stroud is currently living the hell that is being a member of the Buffalo Bills. He’s currently playing in the 3-4, but I’m sure we’re all familiar with his days as a member of the Jags. He knows the 4-3, he knows us, and he can play both DT and DE. He’s old enough where the Bills can’t really say he’s part of their future, and he’s been pretty solid this year, but has missed one game. His contract is a bit hefty but still do-able I think. A solid pass rush would do wonders for our secondary.
I’m also open to Rogers from the Browns but he has had a few attitude problems in the past.
Any DB at this point is also welcome, but I think payroll is starting to be a concern. The talent we have on offense is going to get really expensive in the next couple years if we keep everyone, so that might be a factor also in any trades.
Not that I have any faith in any sort of trade actually being made, but it’s nice to dream.
Stroud is a good pull
he has some health issues, but he could be a good pickup for a late round pick.
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Safety or bust.
No single trade is going to make-or-break the defense. If they get things turned around, it’ll be because of improvement from within. However, adding a legitimate free safety would really make a mid-season turnaround considerably easier. Perhaps it’s just because we’re in the midst of an important season, but Eugene Wilson is really putting himself in the running for worst single-season performance in franchise history.
by Nashmeister on Oct 18, 2010 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
looking at detroit corners.
i like all of them chris houston alphonso smith and jonathan wade, think any of them would help now? would like to see huff here or scrabble.
Scrabble
would fix ALOOOOT of problems imo. Sometimes the pass rush is helped by coverage and vice-versa. In essence, we’d simply be sacrificing a couple of draft picks and some money (he’s in his last year newayz) for a shutdown corner. I don’t see y Rick Smith and Kubes aren’t on the phone for this one.
what?
one of the worst secondaries in the league is the answer for us? Seriously?
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
Yup... the WORST secondary in the league...
…ASPIRES to improve to just being ONE of the worst secondaries in the league… That’s pretty much how it works.
Baby-steps.
A journey of less than 350 yards passing per game begins with a single pass deflection.
by Nashmeister on Oct 18, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Suh has more INTs than Wilson
Just sayin’
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Oct 18, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Disagree with your premise
I think one of the reasons the NFL is so volatile is because teams are largely similarly talented. When talent is equalized games are won based on the taking advantage through scheme, bounce of the ball and minimizing errors. It seems like many teams are blind to their own weaknesses. The Bills should be looking to fix their O line before drafting another running back for instance. With this said, the teams that consistently win (i.e. Steelers, Colts, Eagles, Pats come to mind) A. have good quarterback play (check), B. have superior coaching (Reid is a bad game coach, Colts coach themselves at this point) (offense, check; defense, questionable), and build through the draft.
In the end, I voted for stand pat more because I don’t like the options. Like always, Rick Smith should be looking for undervalued or properly valued players that fill the holes we have. We should not sacrifice any of our hard earned valuable players or valuable draft picks unless we are getting something more valuable in return. Dunta’s injury set us back in the secondary and they didn’t do enough in the offseason to fill that hole. Now that we are in season the market is largely closed for acquiring players. We should accept that, do what we can to fill holes and definitely not sell the farm to improve our chances this season.
The Bills should be looking to fix their O line before drafting another running back for instance
That was their goal going into the draft, as publically stated. However they didn’t want to blow a #9 pick on a guy they were not big on.
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what significantly changed between now and the last 4 games of 2009 season?
Did we have Connor Barwin, Duane Brown, Brian Cushing, and Demeco Ryans in the last 4 games of 2009 season?
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think we did (honestly can’t remember if Duane Brown was there last year.)
Were all 4 of those games just squeakers where the offense saved the day?
Here, were’re relying on my memory, but I don’t remember feeling like our defense was horrid in those last 4 games. And was Frank Bush really coaching for those last for games? To hear BRB talk , that was some other DC that pulled that off.
Or did the late 2009 defense play up to the level of their competition and keep us in the game?
I honestly don’t remember.
What I’m baffled by is why Frank Bush seemingly had to start from scratch this year. I thought he had done a decent job last year in the last 4 games of 2009.
Is he covering info in short-hand that he should be going over in more detail? Is he trying new stuff? Older players in new places?
Am I just imagining that the last 4 games of the 2009 season were decent for the defense? Or was it just that the offense is so awesome that it carries the game for the defense and has been since late in 2009?
wow yes I know that four has a U in it . . .
/spelling fail
by BattleRedFan on Oct 18, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Eugene Wilson took some aging cream
Kareem right now is arguably worse then Dunta was, but I maintain will in the long run will be better.
Barwin was a big loss.
Cushing is still a bit rusty.
Reeves was cut so we could have McCain and McManis play nickel and Dime.
That is a lot of shake up.
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I don't get why Eugene is so much worse...
He’s 30. He should be playing the best ball of his career, by all accounts. Hell, when they signed him in 2008, I thought he was (albeit a stop-gap) a big upgrade that added a lot to our defense. But now, he just can’t seem to do anything right (except for the coverage on their 3rd-and-2 pass at the end—gotta give some credit where it’s due, I suppose).
ok so given all that shake up
Bush might be doing the best he can with what he’s got?
There might be some unknown injuries like back and neck, that are slowing some down?
I say send them all to the chiropractor! Might loosen up some joints and help them see the field better. People may not take chiropractic seriously but issues with the spine can definitely cause a person to lose their stride. Of course I don’t KNOW that they’re not seeing their chiropractors regularly but I’m now more suspicious of drop-offs in productivity.
And thanks for clearing up the big changes.
by BattleRedFan on Oct 18, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
While the defense can use upgrades,
the talent level is not so low that Frank Bush should be forced use a playbook that has as many pages as a Kindergarten picture book. I agree with what DaGoat said earlier. Bush needs to start having some sort of confidence in his players and show some variations to give the players a better chance.
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
We have tons of talent at LB and on the line
Pollard and Quinn have shown they can blitz. Does he take advantage of this? Rarely, if ever.
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Sherrick McMannis
where is that guy btw?? he showed some serious promise in the first couple of games…where is he??
Playing dime I think
if he was doing anything else you wouldn’t be saying anything about promise.
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lol, well...
we just kinda gotta put some lipstick on this pig and go the dance…that’s kinda where I am when i say “promise.”
Injured?
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No freakin' way!
That guy’s never injured!
/eye roll
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by UprootedTexan on Oct 18, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
thought he was ok.
i really would not know if he would be a upgrade over jackson anyways.
Anyways when we go to nickel does brice go outside and glover take the inside recevier?
He made the only play by a corner that whole game..
a one handed break up of a pass intended for Dwayne Bowe I think…looked way better than anything else i’ve seen from our corners this year.
by leacheatsbabies on Oct 18, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
When is the Monday night thread going up?!?
I want to start talking trash about the BESF’s now!!
"LoL
Why am I even wasting my time responding to a "Salad". Ugh. Yeah… shit team"
I just looked at that picture again.
Is it just me, or does Eugene Wilson look unusually happy in it? Seriously, who smiles when they’re getting burned like that?
He's probably thinking...
“Damn, I’m glad the FO will never draft a safety to take my job!”
"LoL
Why am I even wasting my time responding to a "Salad". Ugh. Yeah… shit team"
I had no idea he ran off a cliff here in Carlsbad. Its strange because there aren’t many cliffs here. So I question the height of the cliff.
Yeah, I think "cliff" was used to get the click-thrus on the interwebz...
In the article I read they said “embankment” and mentioned 30 feet… non-trivial, but not like something off of “The A-Team”, if you know what I mean…
Kubiak added that he and Smith aren’t probing the market for veteran cornerbacks, reiterating that he’s sticking with Quin and Jackson.
Why are we so arrogant
Split Seahawks/Texans fan. Don't like it? Don't care.
Winning Strategy
Hitler added that He and Tojo aren’t probing the market for more allies, reiterating that they would stick with Italy and “play better war.”
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 18, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
The Texans are just like Hitler
They can strike quick, but they can’t fight on two fronts.
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by riversmccown on Oct 18, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
Any history reference gets a rec from me every time
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Gotta add my love for these as well...
Though I’m pretty sure Mussolini just got his feelings hurt. I heard he was great in man-to-man.
by FreeRange on Oct 18, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Which makes no sense
becuase they ARE trying to trade for LBs. REALLY GUYS? They need more help then the secondary?
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Between Sharpton, Bentley and Adibi..
we should be able to account for Demeco’s loss with those guys. However, our secondary has proven it can’t hang with the like of Matt Cassel and Bruce Gradkowski…you tell me which is the more pressing concern?
by leacheatsbabies on Oct 18, 2010 7:10 PM CDT reply actions
You remember that time we gave up two 2nd rounders for Matt Schaub?
That worked out pretty well. Especially considering our last two 2nd rounders are currently on IR. So yeah, trade from someone competent in the secondary.
sickening
That I can’t expect a move to improve the defense tommorrow. Gonna be a long 10 games.
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by jahunter221 on Oct 18, 2010 8:40 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Ya' know...
I’m anxious as well. And I’ve been disappointed several times by things that haven’t worked out the way I thought they should.
However, in an effort to avoid a Clorox cocktail, I choose to remind myself of the following:
1. Kubiak doesn’t care about the checkbook and will press for whatever talent he thinks he needs at a given point.
2. Kubiak likes his job.
3. Contrary to some opinions expressed here, I don’t think Kubiak is a stupid man, quite the contrary.
4. Kubiak and company are looking at the talent daily and know all of the details about where people are at a much finer level of detail than I do.
5. Even following this board closely, which I think keeps me about as informed as any “outsider” fan can be, I’ve been surprised by some moves they’ve made… e.g. the Pollard signing last year. My point is, I don’t know what all is “in the works”.
6. Even though I think they have followed a fairly wise “build it to last” philosophy through the first few years of Smithiak, I think that they all know that they need to get to the playoffs this year and that now is not the time to emphasize long-term growth over immediate needs.
After I go through that list, I take a deep cleansing breath and scream “FireFrankBushAndGetSomeDamnTalentInHereInTheSecondaryLinebackersAndDefensiveLine!!!”
The crowd?
At least they can draw a false start or delay of game.
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by riversmccown on Oct 19, 2010 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Kubiak learned at the feet of Shanahan
how to hire a DC.
Why exactly did Shanny get run out of Denver again?
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
The Broncos played some good defense, even in Kubiak's last days.
Kubiak’s problem isn’t WHAT he learned from Shanahan, it’s that he won’t let anyone in the organization who doesn’t share that connection.
Is it sad...
that every time I get on the internet, I hope we made a trade for someone to help our defense? Among other things.
No
I just hope something happens before 3 PM tomorrow.
The offense, as great as it is, cannot do this alone.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I agree...
really gonna pissed if we don’t make some kinda move. No more street free agents, there is nothing out there.
Me too dude, me too
But i’ve come to the conclusion we wont do shit. I would never be happier to be proved wrong tho
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by uh713texans on Oct 18, 2010 11:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It's absolutely maddening
that Kubes said they are not going after any secondary help. I have no idea what kind of speed Nolan has but that is exactly what we need. A FS with some serious range. That alone would greatly improve the secondary. A good FS can cover up the weaknesses of corners.
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Oct 19, 2010 12:52 AM CDT reply actions
If i wake up tomorrow and I see
Scrabble (or any other competent CB for that matter) traded to the Texans I am going to drive to houston and Kiss BFD! on the mouth, with tongue, and then cross swords. and skeet on Rivers couch.
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Awesome
however, bfd is in Austin.
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Oct 19, 2010 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Ummmm
Rivers volunteered to cover for me!
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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From flagstaff
Austin is on the way to houston, I would kidnap BFD and take him to rivers house duh..
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Although is it kidnapping
if he comes willingly?
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Is it rape if they enjoy it?
only if they’re underage
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 19, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
The thing that really concerns me
is the rest of our schedule. Of the remaining 10 games, only two of the teams we will face currently have losing records. Those teams are San Diego and Denver. We’re 1-2 against the NFC East so far. And both those loses we got hammered by big, physical defenses. We still have the Jets and the Ravens to deal with. As much as hate to say it, I think I understand Kub’s reasons for not going after a DB and why he is more concerned with the LB corp. Even though we’re giving up huge amounts of passing yardage, it’s still more dangerous to throw the ball than to run it. A lineman can tip it, the reciever can drop it, someone could jump a route and get a pick (not anyone in our backfield of course), etc. At least with solid LB play you can hope to stuff the run and force them to go to the air. Once in the red zone you tighten up and make them kick field goals while our powerhouse offense scores touchdowns.
The biggest problem with trades right now is there really aren’t many stinkers in the league right now. There aren’t many teams who can say that they’re out of it in their division right now so most teams are going to be hesitant about trading people away. Any team with three wins right now is still in contention. And there are currently 21 teams with three or more wins. With all those teams sniffing around one-win-or-less (of which there are only five), deals are going to be mighty tough to come by
Oct. 18, 2010 7:26 p.m. – Coach Gary Kubiak said the team is comfortable with its decision not to pursue veteran cornerbacks such as Nnamdi Asomugha and Champ Bailey. "We think (our guys are) the best to go with," he said.
“best” – I do not think that word means what you think it means….
I could go with cheapest, or easiest, but best? I think not.
Nice cock.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
watever
maybe bringin them in will hurt the development of our young ones.BUT WE GOTTA MAKE THIS 2010 TEAM BETTER NOWWWWWWW not next season

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