NFL Trade Deadline Open Thread: Where The Prayers Of Texans Fans Go Unanswered
by Tim on Oct 19, 2010 10:30 AM CDT
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PrintDespite the pleas of many Texans fans (e.g., here and here), it's highly unlikely Rick Smith makes a move, much less an impactful one, before today's 3 p.m. CDT trading deadline. For all the sense acquiring fill-in-the-blank-with-player's-name-you-covet-here (personally, I drool over Nnamdi Asomugha, and he could be available) might make, history and smart money say the 2010 Houston Texans aren't going to prominently feature any new blood after the bye week.
But we can dream, can't we? This is your open thread for all things NFL trade deadline. Go.
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Can we trade Frank Bush
for a six pack of Zima’s and an Amobi Okoye fathead for Tim?
by Mike Kerns on Oct 19, 2010 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
A Six-Pack Of Zima
Is worth more than Frank Bush.
The Amobi fathead would look beautiful next to my fatheads of Travis Johnson and Jason Babin.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Oct 19, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
HAHAHA!!
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd -- made me laugh!
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
I'm officially on this campain band wagon
Who is Houston Working out today?
Rumor has it Houston is trying out LB’s and RB’s who are they and will they be the defensive fire starter we need to jump start our poor secondary?
LB’s and RB’s
fire starter we need to jump start our poor secondary?
wat?
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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yes jump start one of the most porous defenses in the league. We need a fire starter like we got with Pollard last year to get things rolling again.
Yes but...
Pollard helpes our RUN game because we used him as a 4th LB. How are RBs or LBs going to fix this secondary?
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Because if and i use IF, we get a RB to replace Slaton, we can then HOPE for trade bait to get a decent CB. It was rumored that we were auditioning LB and RB, I am not there so I was just asking, and hoping something would come to light.
Ok but thats not what you said
thank you for clarifying.
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I can't imagine Slaton has any trade value
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
6th round pick
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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I love Slaton
And I wouldn’t make that deal if I were a different team.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
I was mostly being sarcastic. Its hard to say Slaton doesn’t have it any more, just because he isn’t a good kick returner. I thought he had been looking better as a rb recently, but he got no carries sunday cause of ward. Also SCREEN PASSES MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT? /addressed to Dennison
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We can trade Slaton for Nnamdi
Or that’s what I heard at least.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
honestly, we seem to screw up the screen about 80% of the time we try it
It drives me nuts. I don’t know why. Our lineman should be amazing at screens.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Haynesworth?
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 19, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Haynesworth
Hate Haynesworth but for a 3rd round pick… I would rather see that jackass in a Texan’s jersey rather than a Ten or worse Colts… Manning is onboard with him going to the Colts.
by Mark in Kingwood on Oct 19, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I also read the Titans might try to get him back.
YUCK!!!
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
SMH
This is gonna be protocol for me from now on if I don’t disagree with something.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
We could totally convince the Raiders that he is a 1000 yard rusher...
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
if we could do that we might have scrabble in the line up against Indy on MNF, but I think the raiders are slowly wising up. I am no raider fan so dont think I am
I really hope they aren't
I like having them to laugh at.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I like to laugh at fans of teams that lose to the Raiders
Do I need to remind you of the Chargers baby & kid
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 19, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Rumor has it...
The Houston Texans are auditioning former Arizona Cardinals running back Alphonso Smith today, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.
I don’t really understand this one. I thought we needed DEFENSIVE help, not another RB.
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depth
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I got some depth for you
wink wink nudge nudge
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
dammit my astrix
turned my action text into bold!
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
They gonna plug him in at TE
Texas. Gods favorite country.
by CoolBreeze3 on Oct 19, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
TE !!??
That’s what they use the draft for….
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
thats what i was hoping.
Texas. Gods favorite country.
by CoolBreeze3 on Oct 19, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I am definitely OK with this idea.
Lord knows Slaton hasn’t done much this season. I flinch everytime I see him on a return.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
SCRABBLE SCRABBLE SCRABBLE
three way trade! or a #2 and Okam…. I would rather Slaton go somewhere he is going to get playing time than sitting on our bench only to come out and make horrible KRs
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
I would trade for Scrabble in a heart beat
Give them draft picks, because no one on our team is getting younger and we need to win now. So I don’t buy the picks are too valuable crap. They are valuable, but when will we ever come across another Dre, Schaub and so on. We don’t have time to let rookies develop. Were trying that now and its a sad sight.
by Jahon on Oct 19, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
my incoherrent thoughts
If Champ Bailey can be had for a 4th, do it NOW!
That being said, I have to say I’m not opposed to taking lumps it if helps Kareem Jackson’s learning curve. With #59 down for the season, I’m going to shelve my SB hopes for this season and settle for targeting a playoff berth. And a win in the first round. KJ and GQ are the guys Kubes is determined to develop and rely on for the long haul. Let’s keep getting them experience.
I’m in complete agreement with the opposition to the zone pass D. Let’s play press-man and live and learn with it.
I had expected with Ray Rhodes on the staff, we’d be seeing more improvement in the secondary.
I thought David Gibbs was a better secondary coach than we’re seeing.
Here’s hoping Mario’s groin heals during these two weeks before the next game so we can have a pass rush. And along that line, I think what we’re seeing is that Frank Bush in developing his strategy for this season must’ve been relying tremendously on Connor Barwin and the wide range of uses his athleticism provided. All that went out the window with Barwin on IR and Bush hasn’t found an alternative to bring creativity to the Pass D.
The offense needs to learn from the Giants game. Our O will have to grind clock from here on out. We cannot leave this depleted D on the field against, well, anyone, especially the team we face in the next 8 games in particular.
Oct. 18, 2010 7:26 p.m. – Coach Gary Kubiak said the team is comfortable with its decision not to pursue veteran cornerbacks such as Nnamdi Asomugha and Champ Bailey. “We think (our guys are) the best to go with,” he said.
"best" – I do not think that word means what you think it means….
I could go with cheapest, or easiest, but best? I think not.
This quote hurts my feelings
It's hard bein whimpy
by WhimpyJimmy on Oct 19, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
"Cost Efficient" comes to mind.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Oct 19, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
this is why I <3 meco
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
A true leader
I think he could have a good coaching career after his playing days are over.
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there is no way meco
doesn’t end up a texans coch after he retires
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Everyone just needs to start "over-training" with Cushing.
Surely 2 weeks is enough time for “over-training” to take full effect.
Texas. Gods favorite country.
Yeah I mean other than them being the worst in football
I think the best course of action is do do nothing, I mean when you are the absolute worst the only direction you can go is up……
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
that has to be Kube’s thinking. Someone want to tell him our schedule gets alot tougher now that our secondary could not be on the field and have the same effect. i mean since they can’t tackle or cover.
Texas. Gods favorite country.
Seriously though
When the Texans do nothing to help their secondary today I will be really really disappointed and it will show that they really don’t care about competing as much as they say they do.
any team that really wanted to compete
wouldn’t stick with the worst pass defense in football.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Thread jack...
Just saw that the NFL will begin immediately the process of suspending players for what they’re calling “flagrant hits.” WHAT??
This is football, every hit is a flagrant hit! Little sissy whiny diaper baby DeSean Jackson… I wish him all the best though.
by pattymcgee on Oct 19, 2010 11:16 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I have to say
I really don’t understand this either.
Part of the reason football appeals to the LCD is for hits like that. And you want to take it away?
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by riversmccown on Oct 19, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Lowest common denominator
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Losing Confidence Disorder
(a normal affliction of BRB members)
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Ah, ok-
I was thinking Lost Cause Defense. I was way off!
by pattymcgee on Oct 19, 2010 11:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Loose Cover2 Defense
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
I think there should be more ejections from games
for helmet to helmet hits before the jump to suspensions.
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I couldn't disagree with you more
These are people. It’s bad enough what the average player turns into after their career. Add on a couple of concussions, and some can barely take care of themselves. These aren’t crash test dummies here for our amusement.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well said BFD
It will not be much of a game when the best players are all on the sideline.
Here’s hoping the quality of equipment can catch up to the modern advancements in physical training.
Yup... I'm anticipating little flag belts for the skill positions any day now...
…all that nasty hitting has just got to stop.
by DilloTex on Oct 19, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like the steroid bargain to me.
I’m all for erring on the side of safety when it comes to the general populace, but if a highly specific compensated portion of America (the football players) wants to gamble with their after-NFL livelihoods with the potential to gain millions of dollars as the motivation, I’m absolutely fine with it. And it seems like more than anything, players are complaining about the policies rather than embracing them.
Now of course, if the union wants to come out and be fervently pro-safety, then that’s all well and good. I do think they should chase post-NFL benefits for their clients either way, because even toned down, it’s probably the most dangerous sport.
My reasons for wanting the hits to stay are purely selfish; this league is turning into the Arena League with every rule change. You can’t continually dis-incentive-ise defensive rules and expect the game to have any semblance of balance. But even beyond that, I’m not going to have a problem with it as long as the players know the risks.
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by riversmccown on Oct 19, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
But how has the game changed for the worse?
The more injuries = the more chance a Matt Leinart gets to start.
Helmet to helmet, defenseless receivers. You’re not taking away from the essence of the game in the least. I’d rather have the DeSean Jacksons on the field rather than getting MRIs.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
You can have viscous hits without scrambling a dudes brain.
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by nolander on Oct 19, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares
/SCIENCED
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You're asking a defensive player to hesitate every time he tries to make a tackle
In that split-second, you could lose the tackle. All this is going to do is pump up defensive supsension rates.
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by riversmccown on Oct 19, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh come on
I can name you a long list of hard hitters who rarely if ever hit dirty.
Nobody deserves the Darryl Stingley treatment because of a cheap-shot asswipe like Jack Tatum.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because by making that exchange you unbalance game theory even further.
KC Joyner grouped the coaches, historically, into four different groups: Talent – Scheme, and Athletic – Hitter. If you get rid of the hitters, you’re going to see a bunch of teams playing the same game. I prefer strategic balance. Part of the reason the Chiefs game was so good was that we had a hitter/talent team versus a scheme/athletic team.
Put another way, would the 2000 Ravens have won any of the last four Super Bowls? Probably not. They don’t have a good enough quarterback to compete when you take away the advantages their defense had.
To fight single player arguments with single player arguments: Kurt Warner. I know that’s not exactly fair, and that injuries do weaken teams. But where exactly is the study claiming that injury rates have gone down with the defensive rules we’ve changed already?
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by riversmccown on Oct 19, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Tough question to answer
The NFL still denies the seriousness and long-term implications of concussions.
I’m not saying don’t play tough. You can still have hitters. But do you need helmet-to-helmet hits? Do you need to hit defenseless receivers? Go after QB’s knees? These are neither integral parts of football nor important facets to a “hitter” team.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahhh but if you take away the fear (offense) and instinct (defense), then the hitter group becomes less effective.
Not to mention, you’ll just be trading injuries for defensive suspensions, which will favor the offense further.
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by riversmccown on Oct 19, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
Football players should be scared for their lives and livelihood? Is that the fear?
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
That's why they make millions of dollars.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
But they don't!
The average is heavily skewed by a few elite salaries. Look at the Texans. The average salary is $1.93MM. The MEDIAN salary, however, is $633K.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh
Over half the team makes less than the median.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't you mean exactly half?
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
The average military salary is a fraction of that
and they end up with far more “life altering” effects due to the nature of their selected job path. Just the same the players of the NFL could chose to make a fraction of what they make now and not risk any injury at all and join the workforce. They chose to make the money and play a game they will not get sympathy from me.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
As a disabled vet
I have a sort of unique perspective on getting life altering injuries in the line of your selected profession.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude really?
Did you just compare joining the military to the decision to play football?
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My point is
that you assume risk in any profession you chose. It’s a risk/reward sort of situation. They risk getting injured in order to be in the NFL, if it is too much of a risk, they should do something else. Of course they won’t because playing in the NFL puts them in the top 10% of salary in this country.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the history of the game, is it not?
Lawrence Taylor wasn’t out there to pick daisy chains.
I’m not saying that it’s a particularly enlightened history. I’m just arguing from the perspective of game theory.
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by riversmccown on Oct 19, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Anybody ever accuse LT of being a cheap hitter?
I can’t remember an example. He was a hard hitter, though.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd assume you could find someone who callled him cheap.
I mean for chrissakes, he played in New York.
Anyway, good argument sir, off for lunch.
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by riversmccown on Oct 19, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Not cheap.
Definitely brutal…the Theismann video is tough to watch.
Wait for the next guy to get Theismann'd
Then they won’t be able to go after the legs. It’s already in place to protect QBs because of Pollard shredding Brady’s ACL
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 19, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Also
Concussions end careers. Suspensions don’t.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
What's the statistics on "vicious" hits anyway?
3 people received fines from the past weekend. 3 players for three hits, one hit per player.
There’s 53 players per team, 106 players in a game x 7-8 games per Sunday is almost 850 players. (Granted all players don’t play.)
Then there’s what, ~150 plays per game. 150 plays in a game x 7-8 games = ~1200 plays on any given Sunday.
~1200 hard hitting plays with between ~850 players and there is only THREE “vicious” hits?
My math could be all wrong, and please correct me if I am, after all I did go to UofH, but…
…seems like muchado about nothing.
I’m surprised there’s not more. Am I the only one who sees this as rather stable?
Except now you're getting into subjectivity....
what exactly is a “defenseless receiver?” What exactly is a flagrant hit? This is starting to put the game in the hands of the refs and I don’t like it for that reason. I am all for safety, but such subjective rules bug the crap out of me.
The subjectivity is exactly why the rules committee got rid of the inbounds/out of bounds call. Either you come down with it in bounds or you didn’t….none of this “Well he might have come down with it in bounds if the Earth had stopped rotating for a split second.”
A player interviewed made the comment “You know it when you see it.” Well the same thing was said about pornography and how well is that going?
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
How much subjectivity is there on roughing the passer?
95% of the time, there’s no question. I don’t see how the defenseless receiver question is any different.
Officiating a game, by definition, is subjective. Just ask Chiefs fans.
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Someone posted a series of clips on here somewhere....
and there was a hit on Reggie Bush that to me I would have called a “defenseless receiver” hit…..I’ll guarantee that if 10 other people watched it there would not be 10 people agreeing with me.
There are also roughing the passer penalties I don’t agree with either. You’re right, 95% of them there is no question, but when one of those 5% makes the difference in a game (and I mean really makes a difference in a game)…..I would say there needs to be some sort of definition…..not just “You know it when you see it.”
And I know how it is to officiate, I officiated soccer for awhile….in the flow of the game it is difficult to see everything.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
And I couldn't disagree with YOU more, bfd...
That’s exactly what they are, and there is a HUGE pay differential associated with it.
And the rumors of “ex post facto” enforcement just piss me OFF. To say that you are going to suspend players for hits that happened this weekend is total crap.
I’m hoping for injury-free football, but without the contact, I might as well be watching baseball [shudders].
Ex post facto sucks
Agree.
The pay differential is less than you think. The average player lasts three years. The LTs and Schaubs and Marios are the exceptions salary-wise, not the rule. If you’re 30 and can’t think straight, what does your future hold?
Personally, what I hate the most is the marked decline in quality of play.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
If you’re 30 and can’t think straight, what does your future hold?
Working from home doing investment stuff 10 years later?
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"He tells me he’s playing, he’s playing." --Gary Kubiak, on Andre Johnson
Fucking. Son. Of. Bitch.
I just got pwn3d.
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Mumbling things like...
“Covered Calls”, “Strangles”, “Candlestick Patterns”… over a bubbling pot of witches brew while picking toe jam…
Okay, I see the tragedy… I’m convinced.
Head Colts Blogger.
TV Color man.
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by riversmccown on Oct 19, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
When I joined the Army, noone put a rule in place to prevent the enemy from landing "devastating blows" on me...WTF?!?
Oh, that’s right! I CHOSE TO JOIN AND PARTICIPATE IN A RISKY VENTURE AFTER WEIGHING THE RISKS.
Seriously, FUCK OFF LEAGUE.
These are grown men making a CHOICE to play in a violent sports. It has risks. Those risks are a PRIMARY factor in making the sport what it is.
This nursemaid bullshit is dumb.
This stuff self regulates anyway. I GARAUNTEE Dunta Robinson NEVER hits a guy like that again. Not because of the suspension, but because he almost liquified his own brain.
People CHOOSE to take the risk because of the reward. WELCOME TO LIFE.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 19, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Sooo...
These are just dogs fighting for your entertainment?
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yeah basically.
I’m sure we don’t want to think of it that way, but that is exactly what it is.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
OK
Let’s take TF’s military analogy and run with it.
Didn’t we used to line up infantry in a line, at close range, and have them shoot at each other with muskets that shredded the human body?
Then, we built barricades. We dug trenches. We built the Maginot Line. Wait, forget that. We created body armor, armored vehicles, and we give our troops counseling on how to deal with the mental aspects.
What do all these things do? They keep soldiers safe. We’ve learned that it’s a helluva lot better – on every level – to improve from the Napoleonic Era “let them die in the fields” to equipped medical teams. We know more NOW about keeping soldiers safe – and happy! – than we did then.
I don’t see how wanting to keep football players safe is any different. Better equipment, better knowledge, not lining up in front of cannons. Silly little things like that.
Because, Durga knows, the weapons are better, bigger, faster, and stronger, and you’ve got to keep your troops safe.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am all for giving them better padding
But their job is to hurt eachother for our amusement and they are well compensated for it. As to the military, we have come up with new methods of doing so, but a soldier’s job is to kill people and break things on command. Both of these professions come with risks and you have to make the choice as to whether or not it is worth it for you to assume that risk.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't find concussions amusing
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I can say
I have never, for a moment, looked at football like that.
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The difference is...
…that these are human beings with a CHOICE.
And if the nanny-state mentality of the NFL chooses to keep softening things up, I’m not going to stop watching… probably.
But let’s not lose track of the fact that these guys go into this with full awareness and control of their actions.
Increase the equipment protections all you want to. Make them wear helmets that make them look like “Dark Helmet” for all I care. Just don’t add some more subjective nonsense to an already complex set of rules.
by DilloTex on Oct 19, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd for the "Spaceballs" reference
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
BFD, you slightly misinterpreted the nature of my comment
My issue is with the terminology, not the principle. It’s a great game, and part of the reason these players are paid so godawful much is that they’re forced into retirement far earlier than your average office jockey.
The league does have a responsibility to protect their players, and I’m proud to support a league that is proactive in doing so. However, let’s be particular enough in our phrasing that this rule won’t take away from what makes the game so great.
by pattymcgee on Oct 19, 2010 11:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Then there should be nothing wrong with taking away flagrant, helmet to helmet hits, right?
That’s not what makes the game great, but it does lead directly to more injuries.
I was taught to never, ever lead with the helmet, and I believe in that philosophy.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Helmet-to-Helmet is not what they are talking about tho...
Dunta’s hit was entirely legal shoulder-to-shoulder contact…
I’ve got no problem with suspending helmet-to-helmet… They are suspending for hard hits… I have a problem with that.
He could have gotten lower
and avoided the dudes brain. I have a hard time calling it a purely shoulder to shoulder hit when they both left the game because of a head injury.
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I think you have some unrealistic expectations at game speed.
And adding still one more subjective call that the refs can make is going to lead to more and more games decided in a ref’s head. I don’t like that.
This isn't on the refs if it suspensions
we are talking about giving the league the right to review game tape and make a decision.
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Worse still...
You’ve got the ilk of Goodell sitting around on Monday, deciding whether or not to gut your defense for the next n weeks.
You’ve got defensive players hesitating, which causes injuries as well, by the way.
I just think it’s a disastrous path to go down.
Manage the cheap shots other ways…
Throw murderous thugs out of the league (Fat Albert) and the rest will get the message.
But what triggered this reaction is a legal hard hit within the flow of the game and that is what is troubling to me. They make a big deal out of this and let thugs like Haynesworth et al keep getting rich.
Throw murderous thugs out of the league (Fat Albert) and the rest will get the message.
That is completely inconsistent with the rest of your argument.
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Then perhaps I wasn't clear... sorry...
I think that they need to firmly and consistently deal with acts of violence that happen on the field that are flagrant VIOLATIONS of the rules before they obsess over hard hits that fall within the rules. I think that it is SHAMEFUL that a player gets one of the biggest paydays in the history of the game after trying to stomp a man’s head in after a play.
And I think that refusing to deal with that type of conduct while hypocritically pretending to care about the safety of the players by introducing a “that hit was too hard” variable into a fast moving contact sport will kill it.
All the rumors
have had them saying they will do suspensions for FLAGRANT violations. So you are saying you agree with them basically.
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Of course the problem is
what constitutes flagrant?
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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What constitutes a "violation"?
Again… according to the rules, the hit that triggered this discussion was NOT a violation. They have to define THAT term before dealing with the qualifier “flagrant”.
...and what REALLY frosted me was...
…them saying they were going to apply their “new standard” to hits in the previous weekend.
That just gets all over my “fairness” nerve.
I definitely agree with that
I hate that defensive players are being further handicapped, but you can’t lead with the helmet…can’t launch yourself like that.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Right, BUT
I compare the potential impact of this to that of the horse collar rule-
Great in theory, but you have a lot of refs unclear on the definition calling ticky-tack fouls when contact is made with the shoulder pads.
If they want to ban just helmet to helmet hits, the refs need to be WELL trained.
by pattymcgee on Oct 19, 2010 12:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ugh
Well, that’s another problem altogether.
“That’s another problem.”
/Airplane
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
as long as they dont take these hits away im okay with the ruling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jgP1brUn8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGsutVPOXw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82pO-l4o5LQ&feature=related
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 19, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately....
the one on Bush would’ve been called a hit on a “defenseless” receiver by some refs.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Freakonomics radio on Safety.
Nice episode, deals with the NFL and Helmet to Helmet for about half of the episode.
http://freakonomicsradio.com/the-dangers-of-safety.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:freakonomicsradio(Freakonomics+Radio)&utm_content=FeedBurner
oh, that sucks
i heard it was the CB we were looking at. hope it is, cause i think at RB we are set, especially if ward gets in a little better shape. he is killin it being this slow, imagine if he gets a little more speed back
I agree, porous defense means offense has to work harder. I am not objected to a little more from the offense just wished it was not due to lack of defense.
by R. B. on Oct 19, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah makes sense.
as we know we are stacked at the CB position and have absolutely nothing at RB.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Has to be because there is a slaton trade in the works!!
no other explanation
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
well if that is the case
I would want it to be for a corner, but it will probably be a linebacker. Who am I kidding, it will be for a TE.
Trey Stross cut.
Are we making more room on our rooster???
ARE the Texans yanking my dick?
Are we actually going for a trade??? someone text me when this comes to fruition my number is ninezweiochotreiuncerozweicincozweiseis
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Am I wrong
For thinking that the actions today or lack there of, could be more defining to this season as any game we have played all season?
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions
Very likely true
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
I will be back for updates gotta go to class
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Here's something to chew on...
Slaton trade value might actually make sense to a few good defensive teams -
Tampa Bay
Green Bay
Washington
All teams that have some issues at RB depth. They are also teams that have some depth and/or choices at LB and/or CB. I doubt we can get a HR either position, but I do think we can get something better than what we have.
On a completely homer side note – I wish the Texans made a 6th or 7th round pitch to the Bengals for Quan Cosby, who would significantly make our KR/PR game better and then would totally free up Jacoby to focus on WR.
I do think that if the Texans are serious about going all in for the playoffs this year, they have to do something. Maybe not Randy Johnson to the Astros deadline quality, but a couple of moves nonetheless…
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Like a fart in a swimming pool
Anything else will exceed my expectations.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
we are say slaton is gone i think owen might be leaving.
i really think we could get something for him. Now question is do you do it or not?
I would b sad to see od leave
but with two quality tes sitting on our roster it would be understandable.
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
He's gone next year, regardless
It’d be nice to get something for him, but I don’t think it’s likely.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't do it
right now Schuab has a comfort level with him, and we need all the offense we can get right now.
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I think if we found a way to pick up Nnamdi and fat albert
then we would have a much better pass rush and at least one CB making it easier for the offense.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm of the Branch Rickey philosophy
Always better to trade a guy a year too early than a year too late.
But you have an excellent point.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
If OD brought back a good
corner or elite safety sure, but thats not going to happen unless we get picks and then flip those picks for players. Anything short of that I say no. We can’t beg for help for the team saying our window is now, and then make trade for the futures.
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I say No,
not when he’s just now getting back to form.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
that didnt taste good
I just threw up in my mouth a lil bit…….
– Coach Gary Kubiak said the team is comfortable with its decision not to pursue veteran cornerbacks such as Nnamdi Asomugha and Champ Bailey. "We think (our guys are) the best to go with "
by rowdytexan81 on Oct 19, 2010 11:49 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah
That is a dangerously stupid comment. I hope it is not reflective of their actual thinking.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah...
DisplacedTexan and I had a long discussion about it last night. He’s right in the Kubiak is a politician first, coach second. The guy watches everything he says, and he’s not about to throw a single player under the bus, Adibi excepted.
However, they have shown absolutely no interest in dealing with S since they (Smith and Kubiak, to clarify) have been here. They’re happy with whatever scraps are laying around, and we got a gift with Pollard.
It’s hard not to believe what he says, but there’s a good chance he’s blowing smoke up our ass.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
What good does it do to say, “We tried to get those guys because our guys suck so bad, but they just wanted too much and we couldn’t get a deal done”
People get way to upset about Gary Kubiak’s sound bites. That’s all they are. He’s not going to say anything to undermine one of the guys in his locker room.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
and that is why we extended his contract during the offseason, for decisions like that, we were stupid to start a rookie cb after letting dunta go.
We did try to bring Bodden in
And re-signing Dunta would’ve handcuffed this organization financially for a couple of years. All things considered, it was the right choice.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Hindsight is 20/20....
I wanted Leigh Bodden, but I am glad we didn’t sign him. Isn’t he out for the rest of the season?
Nope!
That was the day we cut Carr
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle
Rec’d
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
STOP THAT!!!
:-)
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
DAMN the suspense is killing me
WTF are we doing? The deadline looms, were auditioning, trimming roster and nothing has come to light yet.
prepare for a slow death then
Can’t you just already hear Kubiak saying how we are really happy with the players on the roster, we just need to play a heck of a lot more better.
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
There's no suspense.
We’re not doing anything because Kubiak is gutless.
Which time?
It’s the same script told every week
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 12:02 PM CDT reply actions
Trade Bait anyone?
7 minutes ago – QBs Dan Orlovsky and Matt Leinart split reps Tuesday morning, and Matt Schaub was rested. Coach Gary Kubiak said Leinart continues to push Orlovsky for the backup spot.
I hear the Raiders need a QB
1st and 3rd for Scrabble?
Yay or Nay
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Yay!
But it will NEVER happen
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
only because we are too dumb to do it
With the way Scrabble’s contract is set up it makes a lot of sense for the raiders to trade him.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
hell yay
How about Leinart and Slaton for Scrabble?
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
The raiders would have more interest in Leinart than O
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
who cares?
We can’t win with either of them.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Orlovsky is a great QB
If you are the oakland raiders
Could you imagine...
Quin on one side and Nnandi on the other. Have Kareem learning from Nnandi…
That type of imagination
Is setting you up for heartbreak here in a couple of hours
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I went to the monday night game last night
and after watching the Jags, I felt much better about our D
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
He almost looks over-trained
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is everyone really sitting around waiting on the trade deadline?
This is the NFL. I would be shocked if there was more than a handful of minor deals for back up type players and late round picks.
Oakland is only a game out of first in a weak division. Does anyone really think you could pry away an elite corner from them for less than a Herschel Walker type package? I know it’s the Raiders, and Al Davis is crazy….but he’s crazy enough to think they are going to the Superbowl.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
happens
when the trade deadline lands on the team bye week, and the defense is sucking ass
by ketchuppants7 on Oct 19, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes?
Because, well, I’ll be in front of the damn computer, anyway. Turned on Tweetdeck for the first time in two months.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 19, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
????
What time is the deadline again?
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Oct 19, 2010 12:39 PM CDT reply actions
And that's Eastern Time
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
I am still waiting and hoping
I know it is a fantasy to think Smith-iak will actually attempt to do anything, but am still hoping.
If we don't
It should fall straight on Smith. I find it hard to believe that Kubiak wouldn’t like more play makers and could care less of the cost
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I really think if we dont do anything
Then the bottom just might fall from under our team later on that could cause Kubiak his job.
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Oh thats a definite, Bush is gone already
But what im sayin is Kubiak being stupid or stubborn, is not tryin to get help.
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Smith is the GM
He’s the one who would have to pull the trigger on any trade. Gary would have plenty of input, but working out any trade is up to Smith.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Yea but smith isnt goin anywhere
Im putting the blame where everyone puts the blame first; on the head coach
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Smith isn't going anywhere?
So that’s reason to blame Kubiak for the job Smith did or didn’t do? That makes no sense. Just because everyone puts blame on the head coach doesn’t mean that’s right.
We have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. Kubiak could be begging Smith to make a deal, but Smith isn’t willing to give up the picks or pay the salary. You’re going to go ahead and just blame everything on Kubiak even though he doesn’t necessarily even have control over what you are bitching about.
I’m not trying to defend Kubiak, I just don’t understand people getting angry at him when we have no idea if he’s the right person to get angry with.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
I don't understand
Like the trinity, I thought Smithiak consisted of two separate parts of the one Texans godhead.
At the end of the day they are all accountable
Assuming that Kubiak is the reason why we wouldn’t make a trade because he’s stubborn (based on nothing more than a soundbite about sticking with their guys) is just silly.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Im not really blaming Kubiak
As much as helpin him pack his bags. Shit i like the dude, think he’s decent but if this is supposed to be "the year’ one would think they would try everything in their power to make it so. They probably are tryin, who knows but still i think he’s gone at the end of the season without a playoff game played.
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Stubborn
He (and Rick Smith) are very stubborn. I wouldn’t call them stupid.
Why not take a shot at Scrabble?
The raiders are only looking for a 2011 first round pick, and a 2010 second round pick, seems like a fair trade for pure talent.
agreed, but when you can have a shutdown corner to help fire up a lowly pass defense and make yourself a legitimate contender how could you just let that pass you by?
Two words, Houston Texans
Where other teams make deals that we wish we would have the balls to do
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Other than Randy Moss how many big trades have gone down at the deadline over the last few years?
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2010/10/14/1749000/nfl-trade-deadline-cowboys-patriots-vikings
Ask and ye shall receive a good compilation of most of them.
Did you mean to link to the thread we're already in?
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
you have to copy paste
because he posted it in the title
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so 3 or 4 in the last 3 or 4 years
that where of any significance? Consider me underwhelmed by how ballsy the rest of the gms are compared to rick smith.
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I was supporting your case there...
Lol. NFL GMs consider Free Agency the safer, simpler option.
The NFL doesn’t need the trade deadline to be flashy, the league is plenty fun enough to watch (save last night’s Monday Night College Football Rivalry Game). Why would the commissioner want to break a working formula? Just to appease the hardcore fans? Same with the GMs.
The reality is if a GM wants his team to be different, than he should make it different and be a risk-taker.
What from this F.O. leads anyone to believe they would be remotely capable of taking a risk? It’s beyond me.
/hugs
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And to add to this...
It’s been said time and again (by our own coach no less) that this team is built mostly to beat Indy, because they have been the division leader. How often have the Colts made deadline deals? Once…in 2002. For Booger. BOOGER. Granted, the team went onto the championship that season because Booger helped shore up their run defense…
But that doesn’t sound like our F.O. unfortunately. They draft the players they want, or trade in the off-season to get them. They’ll sign for depth, making a single splash of minor proportions. They’ll bring in incompetent defense coordinators because the Head Coach wants an offensive team.
When you have an offense minded head coach, you’re focus is on offense. Look at Chicago during their defense-only seasons. They were so focused on the defense that they made horrible decisions regarding the offense, and sadly, just like it’s hurting us now, it hurt them, too.
Teams in the NFL need a balance, a good balance, to be better than just good. The offense is elite, but if the defense can’t stop the opposition then what happens when the offense struggles?
It’s the NFL Coaching and GM Paradox, and it rarely works out properly.
Shit we wouldnt even be sittin here worryin about who they get
If they would have made a few low cost moves
Josh Wilson cost = conditional 2011 Draft Pick.
OJ Atogwe = was there too
There was help out there in the offseason but this FO has no balls and people cant dispute that
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
I just did
why did NO ON ELSE trade for OJ Atogwe? Apparently no one in the league has any balls either other then 2 or 3 gms. Context, get some.
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Dude i get it i really do
All im sayin is that with no moves the season might fall and along wit Frank Bush, Kubiak will be gone.
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Are you changing your argument now?
I’m disputing your opinion which you said can’t be disputed.
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No im not
If this season is to be succesful they should’ve or should do at least one thing to help the team. If you CLEARLY see a part of the team struggling and you just decide to not do anything about it, well either you have no guts or nothin was available. But the history of this front office leads me to believe they just dont want to part with the draft picks
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
That's the history of 90% of the front offices in the league
There’s way more than one area of the team struggling. Our LB’s have been horrible in coverage. All of them….and that was with Demeco. Safeties have been just as bad. TEs and RBs have killed us in the passing game. One or two trades is not going to fix that. This isn’t the NBA or MLB where one player can drastically make over a whole team.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
by papabear on Oct 19, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd.
It’s entirely the truth (except for the QB position).
I don't like looking at it
from the perspective of “well one player won’t fix everything, so let’s do nothing.” If we had even one real CB our pass d would be much better, it wouldn’t fix everything, but it sure would help.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
THIS
Look, just because no other GMs are willing to do it means I’m not? Groupthink never works.
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Me neither
but I’m not going to call him ballsless and a shitty GM solely because of it.
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Two 2nd round picks for Schaub was very ballsy
He was on the market for what, Two years before Smith pulled the trigger. Just with that I’ve got more evidence that Smith is brave enough to make big moves than the Smith is a coward camp.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Thats a ballsier move then 99 percent of the other gms
in the last 4 years. BOOM
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Charlie Whitehurst
Begs to differ. But he’s cheaper too.
That's fair
…but the tone of most of this “We have to get so and so” is that they are some kind of magic bullet. All three position groups with primary coverage responsibilities are weak when it comes to defending the pass. I think our CBs will get better eventually. I’m not sure if our LBs will. The safeites most definitely won’t until they bring in new players.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Yeah, if they were to go after one position...
I’d hope it’d be safety. But they won’t.
I don’t like it, it’s just the reality of this NFL.
Cheaper
Than proven veterans. See, Diles, Zac.
I'm just going to throw it out there...
Kubiak said “veteran” players. There’s always guys like Devin McCourty who can’t be considered veterans.
Yes…this comment was merely meant to make everyone laugh.
Also, Miami cut LB Bobby Carpenter. I don’t care to look up his stats or know how much he sucked to be cut by them, but hey, one extra body right now wouldn’t hurt. Just sayin’. And, it wouldn’t be a “trade” situation.
Bobby Carpenter
Is Brian Cushing without the talent but with all the overtaining.
My ammeded trade prediction
We do trade Slaton to GB, but for a 5th round draft pick and we don’t bring anyone in. Would that surprise anyone?
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 1:08 PM CDT reply actions
That would be awesome
Wouldn’t help our secondary much, but the idea of next year’s LB corps being Hawk-Ryans-Cushing makes me drool.
True, it wouldn't help the secondary much,
but we need LB help now. Might be worth looking into.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Yeah
I am starting to think there will be no moves. We are committed to having the worst pass defense in the NFL and that’s just the way it is.
Is that optimism?
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
There probably won't be any major moves by any team
…Like just about every other year. A great corner would certainly help, but that’s not going to help us stop TEs and RBs in the passing game. They have done just as much damage to us as WRs have. We still wouldn’t have a safety.
I just can’t get upset about not weakening future drafts for one player when the defense is far from one player away.
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The deadline is Eastern time, not Central
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They act as if we can out score all of our opponents…
by Mark in Kingwood on Oct 19, 2010 1:16 PM CDT reply actions
I'm going to explain WHY the F.O. is smart NOT to pick up a secondary player at this point in the season...
If they don’t fire Frank Bush this week, then they should wait for the pro-bowl caliber secondary.
Do you really want to see Frank Bush’s scheme and inability to coach players and utilize their athleticism and Durga-given abilities break any future pro-bowlers? Do you really want to see Asamoghu come here and become so pissed at Frank Bush that he demands a trade in the off-season?
Until they resolve the coaching issue on defense, I don’t think any defensive recruits (save the DLine) are worthwhile.
While, I might agree with you about this Frank Bush defense showed some sparks of life last season, and I would believe that we would have left off where we were last season but that was a few months off, and now we need to knock off the rest of the rust and move on to where we were at the end of last seaon, obviously with out a couple key players, but individuals don’t make the team.
I'm not saying they shouldn't make moves,
I’m just saying they have to balance the worth of the move now and it’s overall effect on the team versus letting Bush sit with what he has and forcing him to coach better.
Until Bush gets better with his coaching, it’s useless to bring in better players. I for one don’t want to see some pro-bowl caliber CB or FS come in and takeover and have no difference in our pass coverage abilities. Sure, we’d for sure have no Frank Bush at the end of the season, but overall we’d feel the effect of it for a while.
Don't get me wrong though,
If I were the Front Office, I’d be canning Bush this week, right this minute. I’d be hiring a college defensive coordinator, and I’d give him two weeks to install his scheme, while bringing in Asamoghu and other defensive players, so they’d have time to adjust.
he is just crap, he coaches off of players weak points not there strong points, if he let them play the way all the fans know they can we will be a much better defense.
He is utter crap.
Hell, he makes crap look like a polished turd straight from the donkey’s hind quarters.
Our CBs are still NFL caliber players, and the only reason they have struggled so much isn’t their youth, it’s their coach. Playing 5-9 yards off the line, rarely blitzing, the list goes on and on and on and on and on…et al.
It’s sad, but it’s the fact of our defense. Coaching breeds a better defense, and with a better defensive coach, this defense as it is would be pretty darn good.
Frank Bush deserves all the criticism he gets
But is it his fault that no less than five players failed to bring down Charles when they had him stopped for a big loss only to let him gain 8+? Was it his fault that two players completely whiffed on a tackle to let Bowe turn a short catch into a TD. Is it Bush’s fault that we have no one on the roster who seems to be even remotely capable of covering a TE.
Criticize all you want, but you have to look at all of the parts. Not just the ones that are popular to blame. I think most Texans fans have a decidedly over rated view of the ability of our defensive players.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Do mistackles by 5 guys count on all 5?
Yes, but also, when you look at the sum of the parts, you note an existing and common trend. It’s not like we haven’t seen this from a Bush scheme before (a la weeks 1-3 of last season).
As the F.O., if you believe that Bush IS the problem, and that your defense is good enough to compete were it not for Bush, then you stick with the players you have and either wait until the end of the season to give Bush his walking papers, or you get rid of him now and bring in someone else.
You do not blow up a decent cast of players with true talent (and don’t tell me they don’t have any). It’s just not worth it in THIS NFL.
Besides...
They haven’t been horrible at missed tackles this season. Not great, just not horrible either. So suddenly they get sloppy. Blame it on the players if you want, but I think that’s coaching. 4 weeks of semi-decent tackling followed by 2 weeks of inconsistent tackling = coaching.
I'm not just talking about the tackling
I do think Bush is part of the problem, but the LBs and S are just flat out not good in coverage. Our defense is supposed to be pretty basic…but they continually fail to even execute “basic” right or flat out don’t have the skill to stay with the guys they are supposed to cover. The defense does have some talent and a savvy DC could get more out of them, possibly even a lot more…but ignoring the deficiencies in personnel doesn’t make them go away.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Yes.
We need better players, in the long run. But just like you said earlier, in the NFL, one player won’t make a huge impact on a team. It requires many moves to change the direction the defense is going. A single better player would be nice, but with Frank Bush, he’s not going to improve the shit we see stinking up the field week in nad week out.
Bring in a Hot Secondary Player
just to show Bush, how jacked up his coaching stlye and schemes are.
Haynesworth
Haynesworth next to Mario would be a hell of a pass rush. Don’t like the guy, but I want to win. If we’re not going to improve the DB’s then we have to be in the QB’s face every play. Excellent point Fuzion.
by Mark in Kingwood on Oct 19, 2010 1:20 PM CDT reply actions
They say he can be had for less now, too.
Meaning a 5th or 6th even. I just don’t think he’s the “type” of player Kubiak or Smith want as a representation of the Texans off the field. But Durga would we love the F.O. to make the trade.
Hey bring him in
If it doesn’t work out just cut him before the end of the season
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh...
I’m surprised this thread has so many people waiting. I’d be very surprise if we made any moves.
I have work in 30 minutes...
And I work from home, so I have time to kill sitting in front of my PC.
I work from home too, and I'm working now
So, I have time to kill sitting in front of my PC.
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I am at work
i monitor screens all day, so figured i would watch this forum to see if anything actually happens.
Thanks for hanging out in the forum
Instead of the Penthouse Forum.
Heh.
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If it wasn't for my work VPN
Blocking game sites and SBNation, I’d be on here all the time. How sad is that? Oh wait…sorry bfd.
Sad.
Basically, the only sites banned on our network are YouTube (too much bandwidth, I think). But I do have to be careful that my boss doesn’t walk into my office. Hurray for browsers with tabs.
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Actually, I now have to correct my comment previously...
BRB is accessible, it is Facebook that is not. So I’m not logged in, able to read, but not post. Kinda sucks in a way.
WTH is
DopeHouseBlue RT @houstontexans: Texans are off for the rest of the week, says Coach Kubiak.
supposed to mean
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Most NFL teams on their Bye Weeks
Give their players a week of rest.
They're also going to practice in pads on Mon & Tues next week while most teams are off.
Only problem, is that the Colts are also off this week.
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Man, the schedulers REALLY didn't do us any favors, did they?
They have to give the Colts the same bye week just before we have to play them on MNF? WTF!!!
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it means our team is so
shit hot on both sides of the ball we don’t need to run those extra reps when we are not playing on sunday or monday.
Yeah, wouldn't THAT be appropriate...
“Frank, you and the secondary will be running wind-sprints while the rest of us go lie on the couch.”
No...
It should be Frank and the secondary minus Eugene Wilson running wind sprints. Eugene Wilson should have footballs shot out of a throwing machine until he catches 90 out of 100 passes thrown at him.
/laughing... Not where I THOUGHT you were going with that...
I thought you were about to say “Eugene Wilson should have footballs shot out of… his ass”
Your version was MUUUCH more appropriate… sorry…
No,
SHZ does that already. He needs to practice NOT doing that.
Ewwwwwww
I do suggest the balls should be shot out of a cannon.
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hah
But that would make sense, so it wouldn’t happen
by rowdytexan81 on Oct 19, 2010 1:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not sure how credible Sprint NFL Mobile is...
But a guy on Texans Talk posted this:
On my Sprint NFL mobile program on my phone it mentions Steve Slaton to the Redskins. Rumor is Albert Haynesworth for Slaton and 2nd round pick.
I still can't see Uncle Bob approving this move.
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Not when ESPN has already said...
The Redskins lowered Haynesworth’s price to a 5th or 6th round pick. Slaton + a 2nd is WAY too much.
I don't even mean from a cost perspective
I mean from a locker room perspective alone.
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Oh I agree there.
Uncle Bob, Smith, and Kubiak don’t like players with histories or bad lockerroom/team antics. While I’d love it to ultimately be true (but cheaper), it’s not their type of play or player.
yeah
but we could use another DE to make up for the loss of Connor Barwin.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, Haynesworth would allow Smith to stay outside on passing downs
Two birds, one stone.
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Haynesworth will probably get his ass suspended
for a flagrant hit
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Couldn't be any worse than Ogunleye's penalty
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Just remember even in Haynesworth's best career years (read contract) he rotated out quite a bit
He’s not the type of player who’s going to see 80% of the snaps and be effective.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
I have been posting this same thing over and over....
Haynesworth is NOT WORTH EVEN A 5TH OR 6TH ROUND PICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I watched the tits while he was there! He didn’t do jack until the last year of his rookie contract. Since he was good that year tits either franchised or RFA him (I don’t remember) and LOADED his contract with performance incentives. If he didn’t do jack, he didn’t make jack! He still took plays off as papa pointed out, but he played out of his mind most of the time.
He then wanted WAYYYYYYYY more money than tits wanted to pay because the were afraid of EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN WASHINGTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He got the money and quit playing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry for all the caps….this “trade for Haynseworth BS is getting under my skin.” He is a non-performing waste of air and space douchenozzle that won’t play unless there’s money on the line and he has so much now he will NEVER play well again.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
I wasn't commenting on his motor on the field
I’m saying he was rotated in and out of the game. The Titans were deep on the defensive line then. They rotated all of their lineman to keep them fresh, but I seem to remember that Haynesworth only saw about 60% of their defensive snaps one year (I could be completely wrong about that).
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
You're pretty accurate.
Allot of that was him tapping out also.
Call that a reply fail….the thought of trading for him chaps my ass and I just responded blinded by the hate of 1000 burning suns.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Finally some rumor involving us
Tho i think its bullshit
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Where?
I need a little excitement. Withdrawals from Sunday are a bitch.
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Nothing particularly "legit"
It’s always some random sports site that attributes it elsewhere
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Dont do it. Not for a 2nd
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Exactly, well a 2nd and a 3rd maybe
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
A good defensive lineman for a 2nd? Do it.
He wants out of Washington, he wants in a 4-3, he wants to get sacks…do it.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Exactly
Other than Capt Meco, when was the last time a 2nd rounder started for us?
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Hard to do when, of the last 4 years since Meco, 2 picks were traded and the other 2 players are IR’d.
"Lord, beer me strength."
2 picks traded for Schaub and 2 picks on IR
So, we do better when we trade ’em?
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Somewhere In Michigan
Bennie Joppru weeps at the callousness of your commentary.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Trading for Nnamdi isn't the issue...
It’s his contract that will pay him about $18 Million or higher next season. That’s the issue.
…..I’d still do it though.
Me and you both
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Easy to do when it isn't our money, right?
That’s why you jacked up my season ticket prices, Bob.
DO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTT!
But not when the askin price is 5th or 6th you dont bet against yourself
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I don't think the Titans really need him
They look pretty good already
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey
It’s not like I’m happy about it or anything
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL, just fuckin' with ya
Funny how the VY nut huggers are talking shit today…
Didn’t Kerry Collins play 3/4 of the game last night?
Those assholes would be talking shit even if he didn't play at all.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I was in the nose bleeds
but from what I saw the Jags just looked like crap. But the VY meat smoochers were there in full force
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Were you 1 of 5 people there?
Impressive.
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There werer at least 7 of us.
I took a picture of the stadium at the begining of the 4th. It was really sad. The place was packed in the first quarter, but started empting out before the half
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't mind...
seeing the Jags move to San Antonio.
Though I figure they’re off to L.A. sooner rather than later
Jags will never play in LA
unless the Chargers/Raiders move there.
If they moved….San Antonio seems a better match.
"Lord, beer me strength."
It's only gonna get worse
I only keep up with it cause i’m stationed here, but The fans actually bought tickets this year. After last night I heard a bunch of people say they weren’t coming back. We even say a couple of jerseys in the parking lot laying on the ground. I was telling them to just go to the Cowboys boards and they would feel much better about their situation. It sure makes me feel better.
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Kerry's not sure
He had a blackout at halftime.
Touche. Still think a 2nd is a little too much but i would do it to keep him from the rest of the division
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Even though it won't happen
Freeney – Haynesworth – Some dude – Mathis
Would cause half of the league to punt on first down.
"Lord, beer me strength."
No
Teams would just run and every single down
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
don’t see it either. i would love that trade. better us than someone in our division
by Mark in Kingwood on Oct 19, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not just get Rodgers
for way less and not hate ourselves?
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Self-loathing
Is a key element of the Texans fan creed.
True Story!
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
2nd round and Slaton? No way. Hell I could negotiate a better deal than that.
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What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 19, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Truth is
The NFL trade deadline is the quietest one in all of sports. I don’t see it changing today…(Hoping my reverse psychology works…)
by Mike Kerns on Oct 19, 2010 1:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Deadline Question
Doen anyone know if the deal has to be inked and fully complete by 3, or just submitted to the NFL front office?
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions
Just submitted.
Although I think they can even call ahead and let the NFL types know “hey, we’re working this out”, and usually the NFL will allow it.
If that's the case
I could see multiple deals happening, Although I truely DO NOT think anything will happen, I’m just keeping up hope
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
NSFW
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
+1 for making me laugh
-100 for linking to Limp bizkit
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Ok
first of all… It is probably the only Limp Bizkit Song I like, Second of all, Wes Borland is the man!!! third of all i deduct an extra 10000 from myself as well
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I'm not going to lie
I bought the faith album back in the day. I thought it was a joke though…like the next generation of Weird Al. I didn’t really think they were trying to be a “real” band.
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NSFW
ok This is a song we can all enjoy... (kinda weird but listen to the lyrics.)
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Go Texans!
ok with one hour and ten minutes left...
Why not drop a 2nd round draft pick dan o or leinart to the Raiders…. I mean there isn’t going to be football anyway next year…. DO IT NAO PLES!
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I would think
that the Raiders would be ready to pack things up after losing to the 49ers, why not trade Scrabble and save a lot of money
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Throwing it out there...
Duane Brown…He’s MFing BACK!
yay left side stretch!!!!
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Go Texans!
I wonder if he can defend the pass
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
he defends for he pass.
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Go Texans!
On that note.
I’m too lazy to make a fan-post, but I think some props for Butler are in order. He had a rough game against New York, but who didn’t? Hell of a job by him to come in at one of the tougher positions in football and keep our offense rolling.
Only allowed 3 sacks...
Not bad. Needs to work on run blocking, but nice to know we’ve got legit depth at the T.
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You think they would go for this one.....
Fuck! This Sucks!
My attitude is like a virgin......I dont give a fuck!
This just in......
Houston Texans trade mobile home for scooter……………straight up!
My attitude is like a virgin......I dont give a fuck!
GReat trade...
you can’t ride a mobile home it just sits in a lot and then you have to deal with wino’s
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does anyone think that the defense can flip the switch after the bye week?
I mean we had a lot of new guys in the secondary and constant rotations of suckitude. Maybe all they need is a chance to keep their heads from spinning. I’m trying to find a positive here because that defense has been nearly non existent for 6 weeks. also we play the colts after the bye week so maybe we’ll see some of that aggressive defense that we saw in week one. oh and hopefully tons of drops by the colts receivers.
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 19, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions
Not me
Not unless Frank Bush wins the lottery and retires.
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
by kaizer on Oct 19, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
definitely not
If nothing is done, and that looks like the plan they have decided upon, the Texans will have one of the worst defenses in all of football and the worst pass d in the history of the game.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
well i am with you in hoping that maybe this bye week will correct their current funk, and hope we don’t go onto MNF and look like a little leauge team playing in the pros. I am hoping after six weeks of ball a week off, that all the rust is knocked off and we are ready to play some real d and become legit contenders.
so has the deadline passed?
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 19, 2010 2:12 PM CDT reply actions
Another 45 mins
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
I suggest we trade
Usain Bolt to the Raiders for Scrabble.
I know Bolt doesn’t play football and even if he did, the Texans don’t have him. But I’m willing to bet that Al Davis is so far out of it, and drools so heavily for fast players that he’d take that in a second.
I would say he’d take it in a heartbeat, but I’m not entirely sure that Al Davis hasn’t been dead for the last six years.
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I think Bolt's busy trying t get a deal done with Manchester United
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Well, at least we could claim then that he's a football player.
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by UprootedTexan on Oct 19, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
on the off chance that the front office is searching websites for trade possibilities.....
what are three realistic trades? Here are mine:
1) 2nd rounder, 3rd rounder and a 5th next year for Scrabble. I’ll throw in EWWWW and Leinart because we have to pretend it’s an even trade.
2) Trade a 4th rounder for Whitner in buffalo and throw in EWWW and Leinart because they need them. (Jedi mind trick)
3) Trade a 3 or 4 to carolina for chris gamble, richard marshall or charles godfrey. throw in a 5th if needed along with EWWWW and Leinart because they need them.
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 19, 2010 2:28 PM CDT reply actions
EWWWWW?
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Eugene wilson
the stone handed zombie
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No way we can get Scrabble without giving up at least a #1 plus other picks
Al Davis may be old and senile, but he hasn’t reach Casserly level yet.
Well we would certainly give them a #1
IF we wanted to make our team better. That clearly is not the case.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, so who is Scrabble?
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Is it just me or
does it seem like safeties do real well when they first get here and then meh?
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by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 2:33 PM CDT reply actions
We'll trade with 21 seconds left on the deadline
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Houston Management needs replaced
For not making any legitimate offers on the trade deadline to attempt to make the team better.
are there any rumors out there for any teams?7
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 19, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions
From Football Insider Post:
Texans to trade steve Slaton and their next three first round picks to Green Bay for IR’d Tight End Jermichael Finley. Kubiak, a believer in the versatility of tight ends said that this will ensure that they don’t experience the drop-off next year that they experienced last year after Daniels injury. When asked what they were doing about THIS year, specifically the defense and what they were doiing to address it via the trade, Kubiak responded, “Huh?”.
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by TexansForever on Oct 19, 2010 2:41 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Sadly I can see this actually happening.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Oct 19, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't he didn't include enough draft picks.
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 19, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Trading for tight ends is a good strategy
If we can stockpile them, we won’t have to cover them.
by cubic on Oct 19, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm still amazed at how many people actually seem to think a trade is likely
For any team…not just for the Texans.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
This just in from Yahoo! Sports
Texans trade Andre Johnson and a first round pick to Jacksonville for…Tony Boselli…again??
/ultramegafacepalm
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
All this waiting, speculation, and hope for something good...
and nothing happens. Today is life as a Texans fan in a nutshell.
Nothing happening was always the most likely scenario, league wide
I’m really more entertained by all the people waiting on pins and needles.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
I really thought we would at least pick up Richard Marshall
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Just In:
Texans trade a winning season and any semblance of effort for mediocrity and a first round pick.
Ok…so maybe that wasn’t so surprising after all.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
well
there will be nothing mediocre about our pass d, it would have to improve to be that good.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Mediocrity is not acceptable
when the team is 4-2 and sitting atop the division. It’s not like past seasons when the Texans are 0-2 in the division and the Colts are 6-0 with a 2 game lead on everyone else.
What is this Slaton for Haynsworth BS
Any validity?
It takes a big man to walk away, but a bigger man to break his freaking jaw!
probably none
I haven’t seen any legit sources say anything about it.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
OH...MY....GOD....
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/19/texans-trade-for-raiders-cb/
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Oct 19, 2010 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 9 recs
I hate you.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 19, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Anathema!!!
In other words, BANNED!!!
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Oct 19, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Sigh, reply fail again.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Oct 19, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude... seriously..... REALLY! THAT HURT MAN
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
It hurt my soul
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man.
by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm at work. It's blocked (YouTube is blocked here.)
Why do I have a feeling that it’s a good thing I can’t access it?
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
I can't believe it took that long
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Gotta have some fun.....
Laughs are good for everyone…especially when 3 hits with no news
"Lord, beer me strength."
"Hey, Rick! This is your cousin, Marvin, Marvin Astley!"
“You remember that mediocre generic sound you were looking for? Well, listen to THIS!”
/Holds phone out
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Oct 19, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Family Guy comprehension fail, Mike.
/shakes head in disgust.
"Foster - Texan for Score!" ~ Rip Jersey
which was a Back to Future reference
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Thank you, Cptn Obvious.
With that logic, we should have 2 SB wins like the Broncos.
"Foster - Texan for Score!" ~ Rip Jersey
now you're getting it
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Family Guy, FTW!
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Eat any random mushrooms and plants you find lying on the ground. Nothing can go wrong with that.
You shall be flogged SIR
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
How is it that all of us over here at BRB...
..a community comprised of engineers, teachers, plumbers, gay escorts, corporate clowns and any other profession OTHER than a member of the Houston Texans FO, can clearly see that although this team is 4-2 thru 6 games and sits tied for the top spot in the AFC, does NOT have what it takes as a complete team to make a LEGIT run at the Super Bowl? But the people that we have in charge cannot see that. Or are we just shooting to have a better record than last year? Because if thats the case then this organization sucks.
by theSpaceCityKid on Oct 19, 2010 2:58 PM CDT reply actions
By your logic pretty much every other organization in the league sucks
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/
Thats not true
Our situattion is unique. We just extended our unproven coach, we have been trying to get over the hump for the last 3 seasons and have the talent on the field to have a shot THIS year. A year before a possible lock out or a hard salary cap. We are in a division that has three teams tied for first place int he AFC so a 10-6 record might not even get us a wildcard spot. After the vye would have been the first time we could have played as a full team with Duane Brown and Cushing both back, now we lost Demeco and are still with Connor Barwin. Its not rocket science that our defense is an absolute joke and we do NOTHING schematically to change that. Now that Kubiak has been signed on for a few more years does he think we are willing to wait until the end of his next contract to be dominant?
by theSpaceCityKid on Oct 19, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
There is nothing unique about our situation
There are plenty of teams off to a decent enough start to think they can make a run at the playoffs with obvious holes to fill on their roster…you could make that argument for nearly the entire league. As for Kubiak being extended, so what? His contract isn’t guaranteed. McNair could give him the AX tomorrow if he wanted to.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/
I want to hear the other teams (especially in the AFC) that are in the same situation as us.
You cant name one bc the other 4-2 or better teams in the AFC are either average or better in Total O and Total D so far except Pittsburgh with Offense and they just got Rothlisberger back adn that includes TWO teams from OUR OWN DIVISION. However WE are not even close to average on defense we are DEAD LAST. I would say that is a unique position.
by theSpaceCityKid on Oct 19, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
How did you know about my escort business?
(kidding)
It takes a big man to walk away, but a bigger man to break his freaking jaw!
WE have ZERO knowledge of what the Texans are trying, or not trying to do
Everyone is assuming since their grand plan isn’t being followed that the guys in the FO just aren’t trying.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Maybe they can see it
but there’s nothing to do about it. For all we know, Rick Smith called all 31 other GMs in the league to see what he could get for a FS or CB, but he couldn’t get a reasonable price. And personally, I’d rather stand pat than mortgage our future on a stopgap player. It takes two to make a trade, and it’s perfectly possible the Texans just couldn’t find a taker.
or maybe they can't
but hope we are all uneducated enough to think we would believe them when they told us they tried, but no news outlets will post any thing to prove that they attempted anything.
Why would the Texans admit anything?
Telling the whole world that they tried to bring in players sends the message to current players that they don’t believe in them. Even if you don’t believe in them it’s not a very good motivational technique.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Whats more motivating than the possiblity of losing your job?
Whos feelings are we protecting? If our guys (coaches and players alike) havent realized that the defensive play our team has put out will not cut it then they need to know ASAP. And if it isnt known in our organization that there are too many talented people in this industry and this is too big of a market with too much money put into it for us to go ONE SUNDAY with someone at a position that doesnt deserve it.
by theSpaceCityKid on Oct 19, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
There are only five players
who are safe from having their feelings hurt… The Great One!, Arian “Mr. Undrafted!” Foster, Matt Schaub, Mario Williams, and Brian Cushing. Anyone else can be legitimately replaced at any time. The only reason I say Mario is because even if you brought in a better DE, he would go opposite Mario not replace, Cushing is safe because of LB default he is just the best damn tackler of the corps.
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
You just hurt Derrick Ward's feelings
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Derrick Ward has been a great asset.
so i apologize… he is safe, for now!
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
If a guy's in danger of losing his job he already knows it
He’s likely been getting his ass chewed in the film room on a weekly basis. There’s no reason to bring it up in public so him and his teammates have to answer questions about it constantly. There’s a big difference between what is said to the media and what is said in the locker room. It’s not about protecting feelings, it’s about keeping those things “inside” the team.
On top of that, it is just poor marketing to admit you tried to get someone but failed. There isn’t one good reason a team would ever voluntarily admit they tried to trade for a player but couldn’t get it done. There is zero benefit to it, and will only hurt the effort to sell the fans on the team and keep them coming out and buying $7.50 beers.
You here rumors, but very rarely will you ever hear a team say anything other than we explored our options. Now if they end up signing the guy as a FA down the road you ALWAYS hear about this is a guy we have been trying to get for years kind of talk.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
what papabear said
If you fail to make a trade, don’t ever admit it. But I’ve seen the Texans do too many things right to suddenly think we’re being run by a bunch of incompetents. And after suffering through the Casserly era, I think we should all be familiar enough with what that looks like.
by cubic on Oct 19, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
^^AMEN TO THIS !! Can I get a Hallelujah!
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Have any trades been made today League wide?
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man.
by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 2:58 PM CDT reply actions
Havent heard much... maybe someone else has
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
ITS 3!!!!! PLEASE LETS HAVE A DEAL ABOUT TO BE REPORTED
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
I'm convinced
That a very large percentage of Texans fans turned into Mr Crazy trade proposal radio call in guy from the Bud light commercials today.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Tonight on the 10 o'clock news
Houston Traded no one for no one, which will give them the exact same problems on defense they had before going into the bye week. Even though there were options available to them and all teams in the NFL no team took advantage of it, especially the TEXANS. Well lets hope Smith, Kubiak, Bush, whoever we choose to blame can finish out this season better than 9-7 and make a presence in the playoffs.
I don't care
Because I am still listening to the musical perfection that is Rick Astley
Stupid Texans suck ass
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 19, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 10 recs
I would suck that ass
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Hellooooooooo, nurse!
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Oct 19, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
is your boss not human?
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 19, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I just hope my wife doesn't see this.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Oct 19, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
This pic officially switches me from boob man to ass man
Does that make me gay?
"Foster - Texan for Score!" ~ Rip Jersey
No, that doesn't make you gay.
What you do with bfd on Wednesdays nights after Church makes you Gay.
by Mike Kerns on Oct 19, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
NSFW somehow
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 19, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Can I trades for hers?
"Do you ever feel more like you do now then when you got there?"
"Its always good to have the same number of takeoffs as you do landings."
-Wise words from a dude named Tim
She kind of looks like Sasha Grey
…with Boobs
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
I thought the same thing!
The Super Bowl is in Dallas, and an AFC team HAS to go. Why not the Texans?
by Christopher Allen on Oct 19, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that Misha Campo?
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/
I want that delivered to my bed
PRONTO!
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
What can you do to an ass like that?
Suck
Eat
Tap
Nail
Ride
Smack
Did I miss any?
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 20, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
It's ok guys.
No trade happened but we kept our draft picks. Based on our draft history, we will be getting the next Ed Reed and Deion Sanders with the fist two picks. weeps
Didn't demeco just make room for him, until another LB is signed
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man.
by Remember the Alamo on Oct 19, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
That's correct
Waiving Nixon makes NO sense right now.
Ryans will be IR’d…..so a spot was open. Nixon was on the roster….so that’s 2 spots?
"Lord, beer me strength."
Well apparently we have a LB on the way
Just wondering who?
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Nick Scurfield
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
No real source but why cut Nixon?
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Doesn't he work for the texans?
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Oh yea theres is the source
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Brown activated
and Adibi and Sharpton are supposed to be healthy next week
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/
Two
Assuming Dunta is moving to IR
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
I mean Demeco
you can ban me for 2 mins for that mixup.
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Are you okay?
"Do you ever feel more like you do now then when you got there?"
"Its always good to have the same number of takeoffs as you do landings."
-Wise words from a dude named Tim
I was debating Fuck Dunta vs Fuck Bush in my head
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Ahh I see.
"Do you ever feel more like you do now then when you got there?"
"Its always good to have the same number of takeoffs as you do landings."
-Wise words from a dude named Tim
Someone maybe coming Off PUP
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Anthony Hill is our only PUPpy
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
snicker, snicker
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
would have to agree, nothing has come to light yet.
But other sites, say they were looking at many possibilities, just might have not yet leaked out to the public yet. I will be watching the news and internet the rest of the day now.
taken over now and off topic.
but this is who we are rojected to take in first round next year what do ya’ll think so far of the kid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDFNtXzoGAY
projectin the draft at this point is pointless
All the draft experts aren’t right the about draft projections the day before the draft. Why would they be any better 7 months sooner
….going to watch the video anyway.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
I don't see that happening
He wouldn’t want to take a pay cut to come to Houston
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 20, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like we are setting ourselves up
to pick up someone else’s garbage to play with our garbage.
I vote our new catch phrase shall be Fuck Bush
to replace the obsolete Dunta hate. All in favor?
"Do you ever feel more like you do now then when you got there?"
"Its always good to have the same number of takeoffs as you do landings."
-Wise words from a dude named Tim
So ordered
/Gavel slam
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Oct 19, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me test it out.
FUCK BUSH! Okay, i love it.
"Do you ever feel more like you do now then when you got there?"
"Its always good to have the same number of takeoffs as you do landings."
-Wise words from a dude named Tim
giggidy giggidy
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
There's plenty of haterade to sip
No need to ration it
by cubic on Oct 19, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Let me just say
Even with all the wild speculation, less action on the trading front than my marriage bed…
We’re almost at 600 comments on this thread. And I think that’s pretty awesome.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
Yeah but every comment I didn't make is stupid
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/
That made no sense at all
"Do you ever feel more like you do now then when you got there?"
"Its always good to have the same number of takeoffs as you do landings."
-Wise words from a dude named Tim
yeah just saw that. why did no one mention that earlier?
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 19, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
We are too busy creating representations of Frank Bush and Smithiak to burn tonight
"Do you ever feel more like you do now then when you got there?"
"Its always good to have the same number of takeoffs as you do landings."
-Wise words from a dude named Tim
Well at least it was Dunta
Fuck him
"Do you ever feel more like you do now then when you got there?"
"Its always good to have the same number of takeoffs as you do landings."
-Wise words from a dude named Tim
Geez is it Goodell's time of the month?
Ftw?!
"Do you ever feel more like you do now then when you got there?"
"Its always good to have the same number of takeoffs as you do landings."
-Wise words from a dude named Tim
Does that mean we get Clooney as our Wingback?
I’d love for him to get his face smashed in by Ndamakong Suh or Mario…
"Do you ever feel more like you do now then when you got there?"
"Its always good to have the same number of takeoffs as you do landings."
-Wise words from a dude named Tim
Yeah, then everyone could get a concussion on every play!
Sounds like a great idea! I can see the lawsuits now! The PI attorneys are licking their chops!
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
No one's going to lead with their head then.
They do now because of their helmet “protects” them.
"Lord, beer me strength."
THIS
It’s the obvious solution.
Wake up, things might get rough. No need to stress, keeps you down too much. Wake up, I heard they found a solution. Where will you be for the Revolution?
You are naive.
“More protection” is the reason they got away from leather helmets in the first place. The only way they stop leading with their heads is if they are coached not to from a very young age.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
I see no evidence anywhere that players are actually coached on the fundamentals of tackling at any age
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
wait what?
i thought Duntas tackle was picture perfect in comparison to what we were taught at every level. Get low, put your facemask into the opposing players chest and explode upwards. I get teh defenseless WR rule but helmet to helmet contact should only be illegal if it is the INITIAL contact, and what if the offensive player lowers his helmet and hits a defensive player coming in to tackle him?
by theSpaceCityKid on Oct 19, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
He put his head down/ kind of tucked his chin into his chest
Hit what you see, see what you hit. If you go back and look at most of the serious neck injuries they often happen when a guy has his head down like that. I cringe every time I see someone do that.
He did lead with his shoulder. Which is good, but that wasn’t what I would call a textbook tackle either. I don’t think it was dirty by any means…but if he had led with his head in that position he might not be walking right now.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Definitely not dirty
He didn’t wrap up nor was his head up, but not dirty….just taking advantage of the pads.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Yes....
but then you see what evolution brings: helmets made of tougher materials…now its akin to putting a concrete block on your head which players are using as weapons because, as theSpaceCityKid is saying, players are coached up with: Bury your facemask and explode upwards.
Yes, Dunta did it correctly, and there’s more people who do it right than don’t, but there are headhunters, and there is a fearlessness when you’re in these big pads. While players have gotten bigger and faster…the pads have gotten tougher and tougher. Add it up and it’s a car crash.
Leather helmets may be extreme, but, right now, they do just as much harm as they do good.
"Lord, beer me strength."
It's not protection
If it was protection there wouldn’t be 6 players with concussions on the Eagles. I’ve never seen that many in rugby. They are just weapons.
Wake up, things might get rough. No need to stress, keeps you down too much. Wake up, I heard they found a solution. Where will you be for the Revolution?
There would be less concussions
Players wouldn’t lower their heads. I’m not sure what the lawsuits would be for either.
Wake up, things might get rough. No need to stress, keeps you down too much. Wake up, I heard they found a solution. Where will you be for the Revolution?
ya theree would be less first downs too
by theSpaceCityKid on Oct 19, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Not if players are taught fundamentals
Wake up, things might get rough. No need to stress, keeps you down too much. Wake up, I heard they found a solution. Where will you be for the Revolution?
Where did you see this?
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Dunta got the same thing as Merriweather
Merriweather’s hit was helmet to helmet. Dunta’s really wasn’t. It’s not right…even though I hate seeing guys go into tackles with their heads down like that (for their own safety as much as the guy they are hitting).
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
There was a trade today!
@Adam_Schefter
Adam Schefter
There was a trade today! Kansas City traded former third-round pick, defensive end Alex Magee, to Tampa Bay for draft conditions.
Well I guess Tampa Bay has the best GM in the league because he has the balls to pull off trades
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Can anyone tell me how this makes sense?
HOUSTON (AP)—The Houston Texans have released tackle Ephraim Salaam and waived linebacker David Nixon.
The 6-3, 225-pound Nixon played in the second half of Sunday’s game against Kansas City after All-Pro middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans ruptured his left Achilles’ tendon. Nixon, in his second season, made seven tackles in Sunday’s 35-31 win over Kansas City.
I can understand about Salaam, but I do not understand about Nixon. He played well from what I saw on Sunday. Don’t we need LBs?
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
My guess would be...
… that between the three injured LBs that should be back by Indy that they think they have it covered.
My hope would be that they are clearing a roster spot for some BOFFO free agent pickup.
/holding breath in anticipation
/resuming breathing as a sense of defeated realism sets in
I think I'm going to give up trying to figure out this team.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
...and just float along with the current.
It’s starting to tire me out.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
there's a corresponding roster move
We just don’t know what it is. These kind of end of the roster moves happen on a weekly basis throughout the NFL.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Just don't overreact to things before you have the full story
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/
He was only signed becase
a) Adibi hurt
b) Sharpton hurt
and c – Bentley hurt
Those guys getting healthy means he goes.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/
well thats not the only reason he signed
but thats why he is going.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/
Where is Andre Davis?
Last news i saw on him is that he got placed on injured reserve it would be nice if they cut nixon to bring davis back to return kicks
They can't bring back Davis
Once you are on injured reserve you are done for the year
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
technically yes
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 19, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
yes he's listed on the roster
…but once you hit the injured reserve you can’t be active for another game that season.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
at least not for that team
Merriman can sign with another once he’s healthy since the Chargers will be forced to cut him. Don’t see him coming here though, he’d be crap in a 4-3 Defense
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 20, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
is it too much to ask to have a top tier offense
AND a defense that is at least NFL worthy?
Yep cause as Smithniak put it "nobody was willing to make a deal at a price the Texans deemed reasonable."
“What I meant was that when I always approach things, I want to fix it with who I’ve got,”
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
OK, now I feel better...
I just read a commentary by Jerome Solomon with the Chronicle that ended up making me feel much better.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Well, maybe not MUCH better, but at least a little better...
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Here, to help add to the good feelings
Schaub has a career completion percentage of 65.2. That ranks first among all active NFL quarterbacks and third in NFL history behind Chad Pennington (66.1) and Kurt Warner (65.5).
- Nick Scurfield
That’s a positive…
"Lord, beer me strength."
Solomon
is a moron, nothing he says could have an effect on how I think.
by Bobbythegreat on Oct 19, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I still think he a moron from back when he was on ESPN Radio
He was riding hard on Tom Brady’s dick when the Patriots when undefeated going into the Super Bowl against the Giants. Of course when the Giants beat the Pats, Solomon came on the radio the next day coughing so badly he couldn’t even speak, sounding like he had the worst case of Athlete’s Throat (cause when your foot get shoved down your throat) I’ve ever heard of
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 20, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a pretty high-brow quote from Haley...
…certainly a lot more sportsmanlike than the whining that we’ve been subjected to from some of the Chiefs fans post-game.
Think of this
Either McCain or bentley will be on the field every play. With sprinkles of ewwwwww.
Not good
by AllenOU on Oct 19, 2010 5:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I just can't believe
that nothing was accomplished. there is hardly talent in FA right now guess we will continue to have a shitty secondary, along with D since Frank doesn’t want to spice it up… his wife must be happy with vanilla, cuz you know it transfers to the bedroom to. “No honey i don’t want to lift your legs above my shoulder. Though i’m not getting any penetration in missionary, there is no reason to change what i have been doing since we first consummated this marriage.”
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Too much information!
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
But good visual
And pretty accurate analogy to the D.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
by bigfatdrunk on Oct 20, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
and instead of
bringing in linebackers and safeties to workout they are trotting in anybody who thinks they can be a running back
HAHA!
I love the only comment so far on the page.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
by bigfatdrunk on Oct 20, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I just don't get their "logic" in bringing in all these offense players.
I was under the impression that we needed help with our defense. Did I miss something here?
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
They did bring in a DT to work out today
Good news about him, he weighs 325 pounds
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 20, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
way too big to be a DT for Kollar
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Oct 21, 2010 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe it's a sign that they're starting to look for a planetoid NT
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 21, 2010 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions
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