Houston's Not The Only Winning Team With A Struggling Defense
When talking about defensive rankings, most people, media especially, use a defense's total yards allowed per game average to talk who can and cannot play defense.
Using these rankings, there are six teams ranked in the top-16 who have records under .500. In fact, two of the top four defensive teams, San Diego and Dallas, are sitting in last place of their division. Additionally, two more last place teams, San Francisco and Carolina, are ranked 10th and 12th. For all their defensive prowess, these teams have a combined record of 4-18.
On the flip side of these rankings, 11 of the bottom 16 defenses are at or above .500 for the season. Additionally, eight of those defenses, along with New Orleans and Miami, are also in the bottom 16 in terms of defensive DVOA.
Do you see what I am getting at here? Aside from the fact that yards allowed aren't the be-all, end-all for determining success, the Texan defense is bad, but, in this flukey year, it's not an isolated case of "bad defense, good team." Using these rankings, good defenses are on bad teams, and a number of good teams have average-to-bad-to-very bad defenses.
Yes, the Patriots are lauded as a top-five team with legitimate Super Bowl aspirations while they have the 30th-ranked defense. At the same time, Houston isn't inspiring any confidence with football analysts or fans with their 31st-ranked defense. Heck, people talk about Washington as a NFC playoff contender, but no one is even mentioning their 32nd-ranked defense.
At this point, the questions have to be asked: Why is the New England defense good enough for a contender while the Houston defense keeps the Texans from being in that conversation? What is the difference between the two defenses/teams? Could these be the reasons while the Patriots get a pass for their defense?
- Reputation? It's likely since the Patriots are proven champions with a defensive mastermind as a coach. Talking them up as an elite team has become common practice.
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People are afraid of backing the Texans after years of let-downs? Possibly; the trendy pick hasn't come through to make the media look like geniuses.
- The Patriots having a better offense? No, the Texans are gaining more yards while offensive points are roughly similar.
- The Patriots must be dominating with sacks and turnover differential, right? No, the Texans and Patriots each have 10 sacks, and Houston is only behind 3 in turnover differential (-1 to +2).
There may be truth in the first two reasons, but the substantial difference is...well, nine points in per game scoring differential.
Behind some special teams touchdowns, the Patriots average 30.8 points per game to Houston's 25.5. Defensively, the Patriots allow 23.2 ppg to Houston's 27.8. That's what is keeping people off of New England's defense - some timely special teams plays and holding one of an opponent's scoring drives to a field goal as opposed to a touchdown. If you're wondering, Washington's defense allows 19.8 ppg despite being dead last in total offensive yards allowed.
Below there is a comparison of the 4-1 New England defense, for the "elite contending" team, and the 4-2 Houston defense, for the team that people aren't so sure about. Before you look at the comparison, here are the questions I pose to you about this: Are fans and media putting too much focus on the yards and not the points? Given the offense's deadly balanced attack, if the defense could improve ever so slightly and limit teams to a Patriot-like ~23 ppg over the last 10 games...would you feel better about Houston's chances? Is allowing four fewer points per game the difference between a garbage defense and doing just enough for the offense?
| Team/Stat |
Points Per Game Allowed |
Rush Yards Per Game Allowed |
Pass Yards Per Game Allowed |
Takeaways |
DVOA (Rank) |
DVOA vs. Run (Rank) |
DVOA vs. Pass (Rank) |
| New England |
23.2 (25th) |
109.6 (17th) |
273.4 (29th) |
8 |
14.3% (27th) |
-3.6% (18th) |
27.2% (27th) |
| Houston |
27.8 (t-30th) |
104.3 (12th) |
306.2 (32nd) |
6 |
28.6% (31st) |
1.8% (23rd) |
47.3% (31st) |
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I think the concern is that...
The teams we’ve beaten have the 20th, 21st, 22nd, and 32nd ranked defenses, while the teams that have beaten us have the 2nd and 4th ranked defenses.
The Patriots have beaten the 3rd, 9th, 13th, and 29th ranked defenses, losing to the 14th ranked.
Our offense hasn’t shown us that it can beat an above average defense yet. I think it can and I hope it will, but we haven’t seen that yet. In games where the opponent’s defense has played us tough from the get-go, our defense can’t hang in long enough to let our offense get into a rhythm (and our offense can’t stay on the field long enough to rest the defense, in New York’s case).
by Karsh on Oct 21, 2010 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Good Point
Rec’d.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
That's a good point, rec'd
The offense gets their chance against San Diego…who will be a good test for this team on a short week.
As for the other part, if you go by DVOA Defense then the Texans have beaten a stronger defense (KC at 12th…were 5th before playing Houston) than New England (Baltimore at 13th who rose from 15th).
"Lord, beer me strength."
DVOA already opponent adjusts anyway.
Although 6 games into the season, those adjustments aren’t too reliable yet.
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by riversmccown on Oct 21, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
i would like 17 pt per game defense
but i will settle for 21 pt per game defense at this point…
But to answer your question people are not putting to much on the total yards per game, it is how many points we give up. I’m speaking for Houston Fans, not ESPN.
Is it to much to ask for the defense to try and help us win a game?
I don’t get it…all we lost was Dunta and I know our defense didn’t get this bad because he is gone. I have to put all the blame on the sheme, which means our coach’s.
Don't ask me! Ask Google, you dumb Yahoo!
Well..
I think losing Conner Barwin really affected us on 3rd down defense. We can’t get off the field, because we have zero pass rush. Now that Meco is gone, not really sure what to expect.
3rd down's not a huge issue....
Texans are 16th in 3rd down percentage…at 39% which is the same percentage as they were in 2009.
They are allowing near 24 1st downs a game though – a league worst. Comparison to New England continued, it’s only 1 more than them.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Oh, you couldn't be wrong on this one...
91 passing 1st downs allowed (31st)
38 rushing 1st downs allowed (23rd)
Roughly, the ratio (measured against highest, average, and lowest) between passing/rushing 1st downs is ~2 passing 1st downs for every 1 rushing 1st down. We’re, obviously, above that.
"Lord, beer me strength."
4 points is the difference between a TD and a FG
That’s fairly significant IMO. Add to that the difference on the offensive side (5), and it looks ugly. Point differential for NE is +38, while we are sitting at -19.
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Just a point of clarification...
The scored points per game is total points, not offensive….the Patriots do have 5 non-offensive touchdowns (3 from the Miami game alone) which translates into 7 PPG less.
They’re stiffening up on one drive per game….and then getting a big play from, mostly, the special teams (insert I hate Slaton comment here)
"Lord, beer me strength."
That makes me a sad panda
I can’t even remember when our last pick 6 was.
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
by kaizer on Oct 21, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't Pollard have one last season?
Damnit, Bernard…what happened to those pick sixes!
"Lord, beer me strength."
Sad part is that he had to have done that in either man or flat zone coverage
neither of which he really does often with the scheme the way it is
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 22, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd for southpark reference
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by samtheram on Oct 21, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
de-lurk successful!
Welcome!
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by HoustonTransplant on Oct 22, 2010 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Red-zone defense has been atrocious.
I remember bending and not breaking last year. This year though, we’re allowing what… TDs 85% of the time in the red-zone? They have to tighten up on coverage in the end-zone. And say what you will about scheme, but that’s where DBs prove their worth. I’ve seen probably half a dozen plays where a CB or safety just had zero awareness and stood there looking like an asshole when they could have gotten a hand on the ball.
O/T
Anyone else feel as if it is off-season? Texans don’t even seem too concerned about signing the LB they desperately need.
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
What is it with you guys and this LB crap
IIf they sign anyone it will be as depth. Why are we freaking out about not signing a guy who is going to be number six on the depth chart at his position?
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Clearly this means the GM and coaches aren't interested in winning.
Just like when they spent that precious seventh-round pick on Trindon Holliday. I mean, street free agents and 7th-rounders just win games.
Dickerson was 7th
Holiday was 6th I believe
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Oct 22, 2010 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions
He's not getting playing time soon apparently
But I’m pretty sure they’re hoping he turns into a faster version of Kevin Walter (also another 7th round pick)
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Oct 22, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Well if Holiday learns how to catch
he will be a big help because we are all sick and tired of seeing Slaton returning kicks or Anderson returning punts.
They have 5 healthy LB's
How many do you want them to carry? Do you legitimately expect them to sign a player of Demeco’s caliber off of the street? Anyone they sign will almost definitely NOT be active for the Monday night game so why would they be in a hurry?
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Butter
First, excellent job crunching the numbers, making the comparisons, and asking why the general opinions differ so much between similar scenarios. On paper, I totally agree with the paradox on why one team gets support and recognition, and another is ignored.
I’m just speaking in generalities here outside the numbers, but ALL the Texans games this year have shown a defense that is lacking focus & discipline filled with missed assignments, unable to disguise anything, and barely able to stop the other team consistently. Maybe if the other teams were slowed down some instead of ripping gaping yardage and endzone parades at will, we’d all feel better.
The two losses were absolutely disgusting in all three phases of the game, and three of the wins were by the absolute skin of their lucky rabbits foot. The only real game the Texans showed a dominant role was the opener against the Colts. After that game, they got a LOT of attention and recognition nationally and locally. If they had not been blown off the field in the two losses, and didn’t look so fragile in three of the wins, I am confident the media and all of us fans would have a different opinion about the “fear factor” for this team the rest of the season.
They need to beat Indy and hold them to less than 24 points to show improvement from the first meeting. With a sweep of the Colts, the confidence and media/fan support would positively explode! This next game is the most important game in franchise history.
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I will not!" ~ General Patton (should be Frank Bush's motto)
by MeMongo on Oct 21, 2010 5:42 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Echo your sentiment
Don’t want to sound pessimistic, but we are a SOFT 4-2. We need to beat Indy again to not only gain the upper hand in the division, but restore confidence to both the players and the fans. The Texan players all have the PC speak down pat, but I’m sure that their confidence on the defensive side of the ball cannot be high. A convincing win in Indy could start to change all of that and will restore that feeling we had at the start of the season.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Oct 21, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
See, there I'd disagree....
and side more with Nashmeister’s statement below. I have to believe that winning these come-from-behind games build confidence and chemistry within the team.
You hear the phrase so often…“A year ago, two years ago, we don’t win this football game. We didn’t know how to win. We would panic, and that’s not the case this season.” Knowing that, whoever’s on the field, will not stop battling….I think it helps.
Some people say “soft 4-2,” but I wouldn’t…
- Beat the defending AFC Champions at full health
- Beat a team who had a coaching staff who knew everything about their schemes and personnel…on the road….coming back big.
- Won on the road when a bunch of key players were hurt/out.
- Came back against a division-leading team in the 4th quarter.
Maybe it’s me, but I think these experiences inspire confidence in that locker room. They all need to step up their games and play consistently minute-to-minute, game-to-game, but I can’t see the locker room filled with doubts.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I've never seen people be so unhappy with being in 1st place
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I think it is mostly because
as fans we expected more after the end of last season. We see our deficiencies and feel like the coaches aren’t doing anything to adjust/fix the team to at least cover the shit with perfume. I am happy we are #1 in the afc south… It has been a long time coming. But, unless our d plays at perfection for the next 10 games our d will fail us like in the nyg, cowbitch games
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
We have "expected more"
every year and been let down, and now we are actually in a position to deliever on that, and people want to act like the apocalypse is here. Yes there is much to worry about, but I’m damn happy right now with my Houston Texans.
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by nolander on Oct 22, 2010 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thing is, because of those let downs...
I think a lot of people can see another one coming due to how poorly the defense has played all season and how the offense seems to vanish for long periods of time. They’re just bracing themselves for what they deem to be another inevitable disappointment.
It hurts that much more when your expectations are high.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
I always say...
Hope for the best, prepare to be gang raped by a group of bikers with syphilis…
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
I am not going to act like it is the apocalypse...
I just wish that the Schemes Bush ran for the colts game get to be a highlight for the rest of the season, I like seeing P8un burning TOs…
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
that is supposed to be
But, unless our O plays at perfection…
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
I agree with this
Im more upset with the fact that the coaches arent doing anything different they just keep babbling that we just need to get better. News flash guys talent doesnt just increase. Smart coaches put their players in the best situation to succeed.
Last year we were all pissed off at the rush defense but after 4 games we started seeing a change. This year we are seeing the same problems over and over again with no semblance of change. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. You cant continuously give this big and/or fast WRs a 10 yard cushion and expect them to be stopped.
I can see both sides of the coin, and while winning close games in come-from-behind fashion is fantastic for the now
Looking forward, yielding 400+ yds and 28 points per game while recording very few sacks or turnovers is simply not a formula for sustaining a winning record.
Regarding your points above, I fully agree with 2-4, but the Colts were NOT at full health for the week one game. Starting OLineman Jeff Saturday and Charlie Johnson were both nicked. I think Saturday played, but Johnson did not (at least he didn’t start). Anthony Gonzalez was also hurt and had just one catch. Bob Sanders was hurt early in the game and did not return recording 0 tackles.
On the plus side for the rematch the Colts will be missing Clark, Collie and Addai who accounted for 28 of the 40 receptions in the first game. Of course Manning still has Wayne, Garcon and a healthy Anthony Gonzalez. Brackett and Donald Brown are also expected to return from injuries. We will have our hands full.
Again, I reiterate, I don’t want to sound pessimistic, but I think my perspective is realistic. ND Kalu pointed out on the postgame 610 radio show after the KC game that a defense is easier to rebuild/reorganize/improve midseason than is an offense. In fact we did it last year with a few notable substitutions. I remain hopeful, but I still believe that our D simply cannot be feeling good about where they are as a unit. The bye week could not have come at a better time. The schedule makers gave us Indy at home week one, and now a bye to prepare for the rematch. We could not have asked for more favorable circumstances. Now we need to suck it up, play like we are division champions and sweep the Colts.
GO TEXANS!!!!
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Oct 22, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
We may not be winning pretty but we're developing something infinitely more important
Confidence that we can win any game against all odds. Lets be honest, our offense has been horrible at times and at best maddeningly inconsistent and our defense hasn’t even been taking the field, we’re injured beyond belief (our 2nd best pass rusher, our 2nd round pick RB and now our defensiv captain), we’ve been without the defensive rookie of the year on defense AND our 1st round starting OT for 4 out of 6 games, our QB has been inconsistent as well and of course our defensive backfield is dead last in the league. It doesn’t get much worse then that and to post 4-2 through it all is exciting to me.
I’m not going to say i’m not terrified about the rest of the season (because naturally being a Texans fan, I am), but I think we’re going to get better because of that confidence and swagger we’re building as a team.
by leacheatsbabies on Oct 21, 2010 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Well put.
Last year, they could play 58 minutes of great football, and still blow it in the end. This year, they’ve won two games in which they played completely lousy for entire halves.
Yes, their record does not reflect the way they’ve played, and they’ll probably finish poorly of they continue to play like that. On the other hand, what if they suddenly start actually playing well? Then we’re talking talent, fundamentals, and confidence, and that hot streak might even continue into January.
Time will tell. But whether they win or lose next week in Indy, they have to at least show up. No more blow-out losses.
by Nashmeister on Oct 21, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd because you make SO MUCH SENSE!!! Thank you!
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
This is different than last year
I’m on record that stats are misleading.
Last year, I think we played better defense than our stats indicated, as a whole. I only saw a couple instances where our defense did not play well enough to win. Statistically, we were middle of the road. What pisses me off is when people say Schaub gets a ton of his stats during garbage time (last year and before) but then turn around and throw stats out that we suck(ed) as a defense. All plays always count, or none of them count, just pick one.
This year, however, I don’t care what the stats show, my eyes show me that the defense is the sole reason we almost lost v. the Skins and the Chiefs. Those are wins, however. The Indy game our defense statistically sucked, but I was very happy with that performance, and would take it again every game. I’ll take our chances with our offense v. that defensive performance.
Now our losses are a mixed bag of suck on both sides of the ball. So, statistically and otherwise, our defense has been pretty bad since week 1.
So my whole point is, we don’t need a huge improvement from the defense to make the playoffs. We need that side of the ball to manage the game, and hope and pray that our offense can score 27-40 a game. Cuz I don’t think we can expect to give up less than 17-28 from this scheme, until Frank Bush is shown the door.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
Bush
I agree. Critics to this challenge on Bush will be quick to respond with the question; “It’s the same defense and defensive coordinator from last year, did he all of a sudden get stupid?”
Who knows for sure. All we can observe is that last year the defense was getting rolled by every running back until they picked up Pollard and the whole defense tightened up and did pretty good. At least good enough to keep them in games most of the time, and became one of the best in the league against the run. This year we’ve been missing players from last season (Dunta, Cushing, Barwin, and now Ryans), and our secondary is getting torched worse than Rome when Nero was at the helm.
Despite spending mountains of money and first round picks, this defense is a joke. The schemes are simple, poorly disguised, and players keep missing assignments (lack of discipline) which result in huge plays for the other team. Every aspect of that belongs to the coaches, and that starts with Bush and his defensive staff.
Things that need to happen for Bush to redeem himself before Game 8 (mid season):
Pass Rush – There is none. Mario needs to learn technique, and stop “patty cake”. SPIN! It would be great if they could get Mario some help too.
Coverage – Kareem is actually getting better every game, but why the hell does he fall down so much (usually all alone)?!! Give the man some shoes that fit him Rick!
Disguise the D!! (Hide the “MIKE”) – The Giants dominated the Texans because they disguised their defense so well. A very high percentage of the plays that busted for us were because the OL all had the wrong blocking assignments, most usually when they lined up and threw off the assignment to the middle line backer, who later turned out to be the “SAM”.
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I will not!" ~ General Patton (should be Frank Bush's motto)
by MeMongo on Oct 21, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
agree
the only improvements we can hope for are Cushing returning to form (he has already helped a little on the pass rush) and Kareem playing better (should not be difficult).
The point on disguising the D is a well-documented flaw in our defense since oh about 2004. I think that or 2005 we actually had a decent defense.
Not time to give up on the defense, I don’t think. Especially looking at our record, and their improvement over the course of 2009. I just hope they return to the 2009 form soon, cuz right now I don’t see it.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
Correct!
I can not believe we have to listen to the same old same old after each game in the Coache’s press conference as how “our D has to get better, we have to execute better, stick with what we have” and all the other blah-blah that we have to listen to. Is there a journalist out there that will ask the coach WHAT he is going to do to fix the problems on the D? Like get a direct answer that’s to the point and involves action of some kind .They are all running scared and stick with easy to answer questions. Cannot believe Bush or K still have their jobs. Andre Johnson has thus far saved two jobs that I know off. Theirs. Johnson is an animal , he gives 100% every game.He seems to be one of only a few on which coaching staff ‘s indecisiveness and insecurity hasn’t rubbed off on. Did anybody else notice how scared Slaton looks when he handles the returns?
avanderstoep
by EINSTEIN.DREW on Oct 21, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
You Expect The Coach
TO reveal his plan? I haven’t seen a coach on any level to that
"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 22, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
The Defense just needs 2 maybe 3...
three and outs and we can beat anyone.
GO TEXANS!!!!
Our time will come...
I would settle for any three and outs...
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
I remember at least 2
In the Chiefs Game
"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 22, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
They've done that every game, including Dallas and New York.
The trick is, coming back and scoring points off of those three-and-outs instead of going three-and-out ourselves.
I remain skeptical that we can score on a good defense.
by Nashmeister on Oct 22, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope this Season Trends as Usual
Kubes tends to have the team get stronger and better towards the end of the season. I am not defending Bush – but I think he knows the D sux. He and Kubes are not going to publicly say this.
I actually believe that we have been one step here and one play there away from a decent defense – in reality about 3 plays per game. I have been encouraged by seeing our D backs actually turning to the ball on occasion the last couple of games. This is why I believe only one or two guys can make a big difference on a defense.
As a Texans fan, I feel as good as I can about this team – Yes, I have plenty of doubts and fears of this team falling apart, but right now I am cautiously optimistic.
"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 22, 2010 10:35 AM CDT reply actions

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