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What Is 'Wrong' With Matt Schaub?

HOUSTON - NOVEMBER 07:  Quarterback Matt Schaub walks off the field after throwing an interception to San Diego Charger Paul Oliver at Reliant Stadium on November 7 2010 in Houston Texas.  (Photo by Bob Levey/Getty Images)

So, what is the deal with Matt Schaub?

The passing game has been relatively ineffective compared to last year, dropping not very far to 11th in DVOA after being 8th last year, but losing about 10% of its effectiveness to make that drop steeper than it sounds.

There are quite a few theories that I've thrown out and that others have thrown out. But why not take these theories and supply the data behind them to see just how right they are? Because we're lazy? But I have a whole spreadsheet of things and an unlimited supply of free time I edit SB Nation Houston

But dammit, we need to know these things! So I blew off editing for a few hours, delved into a bushel load full of Football Outsiders' charting data, maneuvered the lines, counted on my fingers when necessary, and came up with answers. Answers which may surprise you. I'll tackle them on a case-by-case basis.

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POTENTIAL SOURCES OF SCHAUB REGRESSION

Extra Pressure?

This theory says that because Schaub is facing extra pass rush pressure this year, his stats are suffering. After all, he's picking up 2.63 sacks per game, a big leap from last year's 1.56. So how does that hold up? Survey says:

Schaubpressure_medium

He's facing more pressure, but maybe not as much as you might think:  Only about 2 extra pressures a game so far. But his stats against pressure have actually improved this year. He's completing more of his passes and once you account for the excess sacks, his Yards/Attempt is well in line with what he did last year.

The sacks are, obviously, a trickier thing to really pin the blame on. The offensive line has played much worse in pass protection than they did last year, but Schaub anecdotally looked so much cooler under pressure last season as well. It definitely does seem like he's held onto the ball a little longer this year on some plays. Maybe there are problems with his underneath receivers?  

Drops?

This one goes: Jacoby Jones' crucial third down drops are killing the team, Andre Johnson has been hurt, and Joel Dreessen has also let a few leave the bread basket. I split all of Schaub's incompletions for the last three seasons up into a few different categories: Thrown Away, Dropped, and Defensed are self-explanatory. For pressure incompletions, I mean balls that are tipped at the line of scrimmage, as well as times the incompletion came because Schaub was hit as he threw. Finally, bad throws are just balls that Schaub didn't put on the money. If it doesn't add up totally, trust me, there are rarer types of incompletions. So, what do we have?

Schaubincompletions_medium

Those numbers are going haywire from the past two years, with a big increase in passes defensed and thrown away, and a slight bump in drops, but a corresponding drop off in bad throws. I think the increases go hand-and-hand with the extra pressure. You're more likely to force a ball to a covered receiver or throw the ball away when you're under duress. Drops are playing a factor here, but it doesn't look like it's a huge one. David Anderson and Jones are an interesting pair for Dennison's system: Jones is the better blocker and down-field threat, but Anderson is the better route-runner and catcher. For Jones to stay out there, they need more deep balls for him.

Bootleg/PA problems?

My own pet theory was that Rick Dennison has screwed up Kyle Shanahan's brilliant play-action game by throwing in way too many bootlegs. Does that hold up? Partially, but you might be more interested in another finding:

Schaubpa_medium

PAs have gone up, bootlegs have gone up, but the Y/A has gone down significantly. This, to me, seems like less of a problem with the bootlegs (look at how well they fared in '09 with them) and more a problem with the philosophy of Dennison. Dennison is a run-first guy; he was brought in to fix the run and he did just that. But instead of attacking downfield, the Texans seem very content to settle for medium gains when they run their play-action and not throw deep balls. The Texans have thrown just five PA balls this season that have gone 25+ yards in the air. Last year they had 22. 

I'm not sure how much of this to attribute to Dennison's philosophy and how much to attribute to the pressure. It seems to me like Dennison is much more interested in ball control than long bombs, though. Perhaps he saw a few too many deep interceptions on tape last season. The problem with that is the longer you keep these guys on the field, the more likely they are to turn it over. So while it has good intentions in running the clock and keeping the defense off the field, it's not actually decreasing the turnover risk at all.

Conclusions

Gun to my head, I point to the extra pressure on Schaub as the main catalyst of his numbers being down a little. Dennison gets the silver medal, and Jacoby and Dreessen can share a crawfish medal. 

But really, the more I go into it, the less convinced I am that Schaub is having a bad year or that this is a real problem. Look, the guy threw for 4,700 yards last year because we had no running game. Perhaps the expectations were just set a bit too high? For instance, let's look at the numbers Schaub is on pace for and the numbers that FO projected him to reach.

Schaubfo_medium

Seems pretty similar, yes? 

Matt Schaub isn't the problem here. He's not an elite quarterback--he's a notch below that. He might have had his career year in 2009. But he's not holding the Texans back. That would be the defense. 

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Also, DeMeco gives his thoughts on moving Cushing to the Mike.

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by Xetuoh on Nov 10, 2010 6:25 AM CST reply actions  

Great Read Rivers

Interesting stuff. I would have said before reading this that Schaub was not on pace for the numbers you put at the end.

You know... for kids.

by Jake on Nov 10, 2010 7:23 AM CST reply actions  

Good write-up as always.

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What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Nov 10, 2010 7:35 AM CST reply actions  

I don't get it?

You must have not gotten the memo about mentioning Kubiak as the Anti-Christ? Otherwise, nice post.

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by Hugh Jarce on Nov 10, 2010 7:42 AM CST reply actions  

Good analysis. A few follow up thoughts...

I’d be interested to see the distribution of those pressures though. The problem when you talk about “average” is that you don’t know if that’s the most common result or just the mathematical result of a bunch of data points all over the place. For example, if Schaub is facing 9.42 pressures/game, does that mean he’s getting pressured 9 or 10 times each game, or are there a few games with only 4 or 5 and then a few others with 14 or 15?

Perception is driven by variability, so if it’s the latter, then that would explain why it feels like he’s getting more pressure, but the data only shows a slight increase.

Also, going by the ever-so-flawed QB rating, Schaub’s best games were against Washington, Oakland and KC. In the Washington game, Schaub was sacked 5 times, and hit 9 times, but still managed to put up his best stats of the year, so that game alone might be inflating his “pressured” stats.

Lastly, perception is further fueled by our most vivid and most recent memories and is greatly influenced by recent events. We don’t remember that Washington game so much because it happened almost two months ago. The Monday night game against Indy, however, is much more recent and vivid in our minds, so that helps fuel the “feeling” that Schaub is being pressured much more than previous years, even if the data shows only a slight increase.

All told, I agree that pressures are probably the main reason, but I think more important is the fact that pressures, drops, defensed passes, and thrown away (which is likely attributed to pressure) are ALL up. That the entire passing game is struggling may point to the team having difficulty in adapting to the shift in scheme from Shanahan to Dennison.

by Vega on Nov 10, 2010 8:18 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

It definitely varied from game to game.

In both years.

The weird thing about it is that the pressure doesn’t always play out like you think it would, like you noted with the Redskins game. The Chiefs game was one of the few games that we shut down the opposing pass rush pretty well.

If I had to say something about Schaub based purely on observation, it’s that if you can force him to step up, he is still way too slow in getting rid of the ball this year. Which is something I thought he had problems with in 2008 too, (FO didn’t have the same pressure definition that year, so I threw it out) he tends to get strip sacked in those scenarios an inordinate amount of times.

by riversmccown on Nov 11, 2010 12:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I am not sure -

He has less fumbles than a lot of QBs

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 11, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I subscribe to the kubiak mind of thinking

when i say
The problem is
We’re not letting him throw the ball enough.

by Ivan A on Nov 10, 2010 8:27 AM CST reply actions  

Good analysis

Aside from the numbers, just watching the actual film shows the passes seem to be less accurate this season for some reason. Many are high, low, or behind the receiver. I think he is trying to force it, which usually indicates issues with pressure (or his concern about pressure).

by MeMongo on Nov 10, 2010 9:03 AM CST reply actions  

or possibly pain

It looks to me like Matt’s passes haven’t been as crisp and sharp as they usually are. I think he’s pretty beat up right now and likely playing through a lot of discomfort. Any pain in the shoulder, chest, or ribs could be contributing to his throws being slightly off target.

Add to that a hobbled Andre being just a step off of his normal route running, and a shift in offensive plays called and they all add together for the end result. With that said it speaks a lot that he’s still on pace for a very respectable season.

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by Hydroshock on Nov 10, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

You'd think so

But when he came out of the locker room in the Jags game last year after separating the shoulder, he actually performed fairly well. As he did the rest of that season. For this reason, I’m really hesitant to label his problems this year as pain threshold problems. I know he may have a different injury spot, but I think there’s enough evidence to make me think twice about bringing that up as a reason.

by riversmccown on Nov 11, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions  

That's a good point about the injury he got at the Jags last year

maybe we should jump his ass and rough him up a bit before they fly out to Jax?

by MeMongo on Nov 11, 2010 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I've thought that Dennison was responsible for part of the drop off earl in the season

I think Schaub has to take some of the blame, but he has never looked comfortable this year. One reason the sack numbers were good last year was because Schaub got the ball out on time. That’s a result of being comfortable with the design of the offense. That hasn’t been there this year. I’m not saying Dennison is doing a bad job. His improvements to the run game (and yes I think he deserves some of the credit) are enough to say he’s done a good job. For whatever reason Schaub just looks a half a beat slower and a little less sure of what’s going on.

"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair

by papabear on Nov 10, 2010 9:03 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

good post

I agree that Schaub looks out of his usual comfort zone this year. The scheme is fundamentally the same under Dennison but the play calling is different. I think that definitely has to be taken into consideration.

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by Hydroshock on Nov 10, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Dennison has lucked out coming into a situation with Arian Foster

What Foster has done, he did last year when he had the opportunity. This season is just a continuation of that. I give Dennison credit for not messing that up.

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 11, 2010 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

What happened to the screen game?

It was a MAJOR part of Shanny’s play calling when he was here and it was very dangerous. Not only that but it keeps those DE’s from teeing off. They run maybe one a game and it usually goes for 30 yards. I think this is actually a major reason we are seeing so much more pressure.

by TexanRudeboy on Nov 10, 2010 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

good question

I “think” it is that screens are less effective vs 3-4 defenses, so they have held back in using them when facing 3-4.

by MeMongo on Nov 10, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

So basically out of this whole post about the QB what you're saying is

is that our defense sucks?

It’s a sad thing when QB charts and stats can STILL lead to the conclusion that our defense blows.

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by CowboyH8ter on Nov 10, 2010 9:15 AM CST reply actions  

I think its all probably due to the fact that we didn't get dez bryant...

..what do your fancy numbers say about that? Sorry, I can’t help regretting it. But more on point, is it me or are our reciecvers simply not making the plays they were making last year? I recall a lot of passes that were behind our guys, but they managed to make the catch…I don’t think I’m seeing so many good catches this year. Aside from the Dez stuff, am I wrong here?

by Smittybaby on Nov 10, 2010 9:16 AM CST reply actions  

The "clutch" factor seems to be missing

Every season up til now you could count on Walter, Anderson, and Daniels to be clutch on 3rd downs when A.J. was covered. This year we’re not seeing that…..Walter is non-existent, Anderson doesn’t even get to play, and Daniels is still hurt. And since Jones hasn’t seized the opportunity that has been laid at his feet we’re still looking for someone to step up.

Personally I think they need to get Anderson back on the field (I haven’t heard anything about him being hurt) because he fills that Wes Welker role. Also, keep Daniels shelved until he’s 100% and let Casey get most of the looks. And finally, the dump offs to Foster are money so we need to keep looking for him in the short game.

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by Hydroshock on Nov 10, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Can we start a “Free David Anderson” movement? He was so clutch for us so many times over the past two years. Now he’s not even on the field.

by swiftwords on Nov 10, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Great Post, Rivers

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Nov 10, 2010 9:25 AM CST reply actions  

Schaub will still have 4000 yards passing at season's end

Which is still the barometer of a good QB right?

The thing though, is that this team needs a #2 guy next to Andre Johnson. Walter is better suited as a slot guy, and Jacoby Jones (love his potential but hate his drops) is more special teams than #2-3 receiver as well. Is Dorian Dickerson going to see the field this year? I know he’s a 7th rounder, but wasn’t Colston a 7th rounder too?

With the first pick in 2011, Houston select’s Andre Johnson’s “Reggie Wayne” as a compliment. Besides, Dressen and Casey look like a solid 1-2 TE punch.

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by Nitroberg on Nov 10, 2010 9:32 AM CST reply actions  

Sorry... Tight Ends in rounds 1, 2 & 3

First! I win!
…and here’s a little beating dead horse love for my own bad self…

by DilloTex on Nov 10, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

4,000 yards doesn't do it for me.

I want a 2:1 TD:interception ratio, at least. That, to me, is the mark of a good/elite QB. You get your team into the end-zone, and avoid giving your defense a short field.

Schaub nearly did it last year, at 29/15 (but for the sake of comparison, Rodgers was at 33/7, Favre at 33/7, Brees at 34/11, etc. And I think most would agree, that despite all the yards, he still wasn’t in that “elite” QB group due to a few horrible interceptions, and some red-zone failings.

As for this year… If anything, his stats are padded from garbage time. He was nothing short of awful when the game was within hand against Dallas, NYG, and Indy. But ultimately he managed to pad his stats with underneath routes against prevent defenses when the game was sealed.

I’m baffled by the regression though, truly. There were times against San Diego when they would blitz a couple extra and we’d pick it up, yet Schaub would still hold onto the ball and wind up throwing it away. I just don’t believe that nobody is open with 5-6 rushing the QB. I’d like to have “Schaub vision” for some of those plays to see what the issue is.

by Nashmeister on Nov 10, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Like I said

I think the receivers we have are fine, I just don’t think Dennison is doing a good job platooning them.

Too much Jacoby on third and 4-8, and not enough deep balls to take advantage of his skill set.

by riversmccown on Nov 11, 2010 1:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Seriously.

Haven’t seen a single deep ball to Jacoby this year.

Come to think of it… Seems like I’ve seen about three deep balls thrown all year. I suppose Andre ailing has something to do with it. We really need to get Jacoby involved in that regard. Or if they don’t have any faith in him, let Dickerson try. Or even Andre Davis, if he’s still on the roster.

by Nashmeister on Nov 11, 2010 1:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Indeed.

The longest ball to Jacoby this year has gone just 18 yards.

by riversmccown on Nov 11, 2010 2:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Andre Davis

is on IR with hip injury. He’s done:

A recovery timetable has not been released. Davis is already out for the season after being placed on injured reserve earlier this month. Considering he’s due $4.7 million in 2011, his Texans career is likely over.
Source: Nick Scurfield on Twitter

by MeMongo on Nov 11, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

David Anderson plzzzzz

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 11, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice one Rivers...

I like the fancy numbers and book-larnin’ ’n sh1+…

by DilloTex on Nov 10, 2010 9:32 AM CST reply actions  

I like Schaub a lot

In my opinions he is one of the headliners for the second-tier QBs. Seeing how hard it is to get a first-tier QB these days I’m more than content with our situation at QB.

"...and Kareem Jackson will fall down..."

by .Bonzo on Nov 10, 2010 10:09 AM CST reply actions  

Schaub

Something just feels off. Last year when he stepped into a throw I was 90% confident it was going to be a completion (watching on TV). This year I’m hoping its a completion.

Also, what happened on that intentional grounding call? I look at it a couple ways
1) He was trying to get the ball to the receiver (Dressian?) and just missed it so bad they called intentional grounding
2) He didn’t know he was in the pocket still? I find this one hard to believe.
3) He was trying to “throw it away” without throwing it away

Regardless I think he should’ve made that throw. This game felt like last year when we could/should have won, and a bad play (fg miss/hb pass/pick to the house/stopped at the goaline) ruins the day.

PS Great analysis

by VAnumba80 on Nov 10, 2010 11:16 AM CST reply actions  

I'll repost my theory on why Schaub doesn't seem to be doing as good as he was last season
I remember someone saying Schaub looks like a rhythm QB, can’t remember who
My theory is that once he gets in that rhythm, he’s dangerous, but if he doesn’t he suffers greatly. One pattern I have noticed is that Schaub has not had the greatest of games when Foster has gone off on defenses. The irony is that Foster’s effectiveness seems to be having a negative effect on Schaub’s rhythm when conventional wisdom usually dictates that a strong running game take pressure off a QB. As much as Kubiak has been preaching about a balanced offense, it seems like the offense goes from pass heavy to run heavy, but never really that balanced.

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 10, 2010 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

You may ban me

But I believe Kubiak also recognizes this. I believe that was the real reason the Texans went to no-huddle w/ 5 minutes left in the last game. Matt was much sharper in that, than normal. Maybe we should go no-huddle more, but with more running plays mixed in.

"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 10, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

This is the truth

Schaub is a smart an accurate QB, but he lacks the wow factor that the great QBs have..namely athleticism, great arm strength, and the ability to extend plays with his legs. This means Schaub relies heavily on timing and chemistry with his recievers and the ability to diagnose coverage and make the right throws at the right time. This is the definition of a rhythm QB and it’s nothing short of amazing that Schaub, being one, amassed 4,770 yards passing last year.

by leacheatsbabies on Nov 10, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Amazing?

Lack of athleticism, arm strength and mobility? You basically just described Phillip Rivers. I’m pretty sure there are more great QB’s without what you are describing as the “wow factor” than there are with. Strong arm + mobility almost always = Inaccurate QB

by Jason Brown on Nov 12, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I figured yards would go down...

with Arian Foster eating some of the pie.

The lack of screens is hurting the completion % since we’d have a few easy throws per game last season.

It would be nice to see him spread the ball around and attack the defense vertically a bit more. Also would love to see the offensive line stop looking like crap on pass blocking.

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by TexansDC on Nov 10, 2010 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

Great Analysis

I was just thinking about this in a different way. Like most, I feel teh Schaub is a little off on his throws more this year – not sure why. I have always thought that teh Schaub is a really good QB, in my opinion, the only thing keeping him from being elite is wins.

The Middle of the field seems to have been taken away from teh Schaub a bit. Maybe it is the JJ, Dreesen factor, but I think either the play calling has gone away from middle of the field throws, or that defenses have managed to take it away. It seems a lot of successful throws have been to the middle. Not all but a lot. I do not have the “film” or recorded games to check out my theory, but it just seems that way.

Walter seems to have disappeared after the Redskins game basically. I have no clue what has happened with that.

"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 10, 2010 11:34 AM CST reply actions  

Love the analysis

Personally, I think most of this is a function of us actually being able to run the ball. When you don’t win all the games yourself, you seem less impressive. That said Schaub seems a bit less polished this year, and that’s probably a result of the pressure.

Frank Bush delenda est

by JimboTexan on Nov 10, 2010 4:29 PM CST reply actions  

easy

this year, there’s no threat of the halfback pass.

This year, going into the last game, we were #1 in the NFL in TD efficiency in the red zone. That was the major complaint against this offense in the last 2 years, fixed. Largely because we have a RB that actually punches it in, yes, but the offense was getting it done.

After the Skins game I thought we used up all of our “just do it one time” wishes, but then we came back and actually beat the Chiefs. If we converted one of our two chances to beat the Chargers, we’d be in first place in the South. With 4 division games to go, and the NFL’s worst defense at our disposal, the South is our oyster.

I say lets go 4-0 in the division and see how it all shakes out. Indy is bound to lose a couple games.

"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK

by texanphil on Nov 10, 2010 11:20 PM CST reply actions  

Love your optimism.

It’s true: we were in all likelihood one play away from being first in the division.

However, we’re eight games into the season. What you see is what you’re going to get, by all accounts. When we squeezed by the ‘skins and Chiefs, there was this hope that between Cushing getting back and the secondary growing up, the defense would tighten up and give the offense some room for error. But obviously, that hasn’t happened. And while we had hope for change earlier, they seem set in their ways now (particularly with no DeMeco).

Real shame, too. Indy is indeed vulnerable now. If Tennessee takes care of business and takes one from Indy, I think 10-6 wins the division. But alas, I think we’re looking at 9-7 best case scenario; a game short of the division and the wild-card.

by Nashmeister on Nov 11, 2010 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Yay optimism!

I mean, why not? What’s it going to hurt to hope wish? When I become as convinced that it’s over as many seem to think, I’ll just stop watching… But while I continue to invest the time in watching, I choose to expect a positive outcome, even if it involves lucky bounces, bad calls in our favor and rabbits pulled from… hats.

by DilloTex on Nov 11, 2010 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

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