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Oh hush your mouth.  How can you say I go about things the wrong way?  I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does.

Here we are again.  It seems like just last week that I was evaluating Gary Kubiak's performance in light of my analysis from earlier in the season.  After last night's game (or this morning's game, if you live in GMT+3 like I do), the calls for his head are rising to the sky like horseflies from the stinking carcass that is the Texans' 2010 campaign.  

Exaggeration? Maybe so.  In fact, probably so.  But it shouldn't be.  Gary Kubiak is exactly what his record indicates: a .500 coach.  This is clearly a huge improvement over his predecessor, but after five seasons in charge in Houston, I think it's a fair question to ask whether or not Kubiak will ever be more than that.  After all, his record after 68 games at Reliant is 34-34.  Isn't this enough of a sample size to judge him by?  

I know a lot of us are pretty bummed out about this loss, but rather than doing anything rash and heading for the nearest bridge, tall building or freeway overpass, why don't you make your only jump of the day your move across the one below?

Star-divide

I know a few people (such as TexansDC) are more disappointed in this loss than in any in recent memory.  I'm not, and that's mostly because I fully expected this.  How many times have we seen this before, in this season or in seasons past?  Calling the defense sieve-like is an insult to sieves everywhere (and yes, I know that we held Manning, who was playing mostly with backups, to a mere 268 yards, but if this counts as our best defensive performance of the season to date, then it's pretty clear that we have a defense of absurdly shitty proportions on our hands).  

Getting a turnover out of this defense is like watching a statue cry--an incredibly beautiful and moving event that almost never happens, and when it does, is more likely the result of divine intervention than good defensive play.  Show of hands:  How many of you out there watch the defense hoping that we'll get some kind of lucky turnover to stop our opponents' drives because you know our defense can't do it without the kind of help from the gods that usually turns up in Greek mythology?

Ok, sure, the defense sucks.  But what about the offense?  The offense this year is a strange thing.  It is capable of some amazing feats and Matt Schaub, foolish interceptions aside, is an elite quarterback.  But in order for us to win, our offense needs to be perfect.  Every game.  When the defense is busy allowing Matt Cassel to exceed his career quarterback rating by 50 points, you can't afford to have offensive lapses.

The problem, though, is that we do.  We have far too many.  We've won four games, and with the exception of the season opener, our offense has yet to play two solid halves of football.  And with our schedule shaping up to be very tough, our offense is going to have to come up big the rest of the way if we're going to make the playoffs.

This, of course, means a smart game plan by Kubes.  Gary, if you're reading this, pay close attention:

If you've scripted out the first fifteen plays of the game, and the first four of those do not involve the league's leading (by DYAR) rusher at all against a porous run d, you may have the wrong script.  In fact, scripting plays is probably overrated anyway.  Also, Rhonda's rash may or may not be caused by poison ivy like she told you.  Just sayin'.

This team simply cannot afford to start off slow in any games.  Matt Schaub can't continue to pull rabbits out of Andre Johnson's ass if we want to make the playoffs.  If we had, say the Steelers' defense, then we could afford to have the occasional bad series.  Hell, if we had the Cardinals' defense, we could afford to do this.  But we don't.  We have a NCAA D-III defense.

So, what happens now?  For all of my criticism of Kubiak, I must admit that while his teams have an amazingly frustrating ability to lay big fat turds, they also have the equally frustrating tendency to rebound from terrible games and go on a tear.  It's as though once their backs are up against the wall, they come out firing and win.  And that's exactly what this team is going to need to do now.  Because this team, especially on the defensive side, will have to win in spite of their coaching.  Not because of it.  

If we're going to continue to run the same easily exploited defensive schemes, then our defensive linemen are going to have to play with a chip on their shoulder and pressure the quarterback with some consistency.  This means that Bob McNair is going to have to get out in the media and question Mario Williams' desire (because Mario himself has admitted that this is the best way to get him to play well).  It means that Antonio Smith is going to have to hide Amobi's Miley Cyrus CDs again.  It means that someone is going to have to tell Antonio that shaolin has burned and he is going to have to avenge his master.  It means that Brian Cushing is going to need better masking agents to get that cockiness that we loved last year back.  It means that Troy Nolan needs to put LSD on Eugene Wilson's mouthpiece so he goes crazy and wanders off before game time.  You get the idea.

Likewise, if we're going to continue to limit our offense's ability to play with wack play-calling, we're going to have to expect super human feats from Matt Schaub, Andre Johnson and (if he should ever get the ball) Arian Foster.  At least on this score, there is hope for optimism.

But ultimately, this team is going to have a bunch of shootouts.  We will win some and we will lose some.  But the end result is likely to be .500.  Just like Gary Kubiak's career.

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Isn't part of the problem

That EWWWW already wanders away from the game at any given time? So how would giving him LSD to do the same thing be any kind of change?

Just thought I’d ask.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!

by UprootedTexan on Nov 2, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

We want him to wander off before they get on the bus to the stadium

so he gets left behind.

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

by nolander on Nov 2, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate as much as anyone

But from what I saw EWWWW had a pretty good game last night, I saw him pull out a couple good plays

Pollard on the other hand… yeeesh.

by Dramatika on Nov 2, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

except

I’m pretty sure I saw eugene get blocked by 18 on an already failed tackling effort by the team. Sigh, why us?

by silentassassin on Nov 2, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

It’s Peyton Manning. . . he just added to his mystique.
He can throw.
He can turn no name rookies into household names
He can run the ball.
He can slide.
He can tackle.

LOL he is just inches away from completely overshadowing Patrick Willis in demi-god hood.

Eugene didn’t have a prayer against #18.

But yes, aside from that embarassing moment against Peyton Manning, Eugene Wilson was playing with alot of heart in that game.

by BattleRedFan on Nov 2, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

JJ is gonna have to take this team on his back

against the chargers

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

by nolander on Nov 2, 2010 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Saw a highlight reel

of Jacoby’s drops playing in my head after reading that.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 2, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair..

Most of them this season have been pretty horrible throws.

However, he still needs to come up with, oh, I don’t know… One out of every three, perhaps? That would be an improvement.

by Nashmeister on Nov 2, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Special teams

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

by nolander on Nov 2, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

If two weeks provided this latest game plan....

what can we expect with a short week in the hands of these coaches?

"I looked up redundant in the dictionary......it said; 'see redundant' " ~ Robin Williams

by MeMongo on Nov 2, 2010 1:32 PM CDT reply actions  

If I had to bet...

I would assume something written in crayon, possibly with a bunch of misspelled words. You know, something Freddy could do better than.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!

by UprootedTexan on Nov 2, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they won't have time to script

"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 3, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Say what you want about the defense cuz it's probably true.

I liked how much we blitzed. BUT, if you show blitz….and Manning sees it and audibles then that means he’s got your number. If he audibles, why would you stay in the same blitz package?

If he audibles out, then he’s basically saying “check.” And yet our Special Olympics crew of Def Staff stays in the same position and does nothing to protect the king.
 
Am I wrong here? Can someone explain that to me? Shouldn’t we audible on his audible? (…and possibly make him audible again for our audible of his audible…..) We should be getting in his head, right?

by CowboyH8ter on Nov 2, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Correct

And we actually did a little of that in Week 1 against Peightaun. I specifically remember DeJesus changing (or at least pretending to change) the defensive call TWICE on 1 play….leading the Colts to try & change it 3 times. It was fantastic.

But the Colts would have been expecting us to do that this week. So fuck doing what worked before.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Nov 2, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like running the ball?

"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 3, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

MLB is responsible for this

I imagine. And Cush appeared overwhelmed with the responsibility in game one.

I don’t think that transition is easy, so its understandable that this type of change didn’t happen.

I just wonder what plan A was if Meco went down in a game earlier in the season? I don’t care what y’all say, I think Frank Bush has risen to his level of incompetence.

"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK

by texanphil on Nov 2, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ludicrous speed!

should be the call, but instead we’ll probably get:

“Abandon ship! Women and Mogs first!”

"I looked up redundant in the dictionary......it said; 'see redundant' " ~ Robin Williams

by MeMongo on Nov 2, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeMeco

wouldve done that.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 2, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Chargers have come up with the ultimate game plan

to keep Kubiak and the team from even getting to Reliant stadium, by installing a toll booth at Kirby and Old Spanish Trail. Here’s the video to prove it:

"I looked up redundant in the dictionary......it said; 'see redundant' " ~ Robin Williams

by MeMongo on Nov 2, 2010 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbWg-mozGsU

"I looked up redundant in the dictionary......it said; 'see redundant' " ~ Robin Williams

by MeMongo on Nov 2, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's okay

We’ll head ’em off at the pass!

Head them off at the pass? I hate that cliche

/gunshot

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!

by UprootedTexan on Nov 2, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK

So far 4 years of Capers = losing record, 4.5 years of Kubiak = .500 record. I think its obvious we need to fire Kubiak so the next coach can = winning record for team and playoffs

by Biggity B on Nov 2, 2010 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Herm Edwards, please save us

Bring back Baby Shan while you’re at it

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 3, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

What constitutes elite to you, because I think our definitions differ by a wide margin. I think Schaub is a good QB and all, but Peyton Manning and Tom Brady he is not. Hell, he’s not even close to Drew Brees’ status yet. Lobbing balls to Andre Johnson doesn’t count as elite, sorry guys.

You should read 12th Horseman. Do it.
I also have Twitter.

by KingRichard on Nov 2, 2010 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

How about throwing for 500 yard and shooting FIREBALLS FROM YOUR ARSE?

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Nov 2, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I think that constitutes elite status.

You should read 12th Horseman. Do it.
I also have Twitter.

by KingRichard on Nov 2, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool. Because he threw for 497 against the Redskins. I think I saw a flame at some point to, but I can't confirm that.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Nov 2, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Normally I'd disagree.

But since he has played about twice as many god-awful games as good games his season, I’ll let it slide.

And I get it. He took some hits yesterday, Duane Brown didn’t do his job, etc. But until he gets past the point of getting rattled and letting each hit effect his next five drop-backs, he’s average.

by Nashmeister on Nov 2, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word, I’m just keeping it real. If someone were to run their mouth to me about Peyton being a choker pre-2006 Super Bowl championship, I’d probably give them a shitty look, but once I turned around I’d tear up like a bitch because they were right.

Thank fucking god that is not true.

You should read 12th Horseman. Do it.
I also have Twitter.

by KingRichard on Nov 2, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Schaub has good protection, he's an elite QB.

When he doesn’t (about 80% of the time)..he still can be effective but can also look very bad. The book on Schaub is get pressure in his face early and often..when that happens, he doesn’t look elite.

Tom Brady literally stands still in the pocket for 5 seconds before passing. I’d like to see Schaub operate with that kind of protection.

by leacheatsbabies on Nov 2, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

when did Dungy take over the Colts and how long did it take him to get y'all into a Super Bowl?

I do still remember some kind Colts fans last year reminding us that once upon a time in ancient history, the Colts too used to see defeat on a regular basis. (maybe last century ;-) but still )

by BattleRedFan on Nov 2, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I may not call hime elite

But then again I wouldn’t call Brees Elite either

Schaub is damn good – but smother him in D linemen and he cannot perform – like any QB

"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 3, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

The genius

Of Kubiak’s mediocrity is that it won’t get him fired. The tragedy is Frank Bush.

by JimboTexan on Nov 2, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't have the technical skill for this but.....

Isn’t it about time for some to take:

1. Kubiak Press Comference
2. Autotune
3. The beat from R. Kelly’s, “You remind me of something”

And produce what may turn out to be the only enduring, quality material to emerge from the Kubiak era?

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Nov 2, 2010 4:07 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Coaching > Combined Player Talent

Matt is enough of a QB to take us to the Super Bowl. But to do that, everything else needs to be pretty great. He can’t hoist a team on his back like Peyton or Montana, but he is as good or better than most Super Bowl QBs. Seriously, go back to years and look at them – Matt is at least average in that elite group. So, the one position that MUST be good enough is good enough.

The rest can be coached to excellence. Witness the the goddamned Patriots. With the Galactic Emperor on the sidelines in his strangely familiar hoody and Darth Brady chucking the rock, they could just eeny-meeny-miny-moe on draft day and still win.

The Texans are just the sort of team that a Cowher or a Gruden could take from .500 to conference championship in one year. Enough talent is there. The coaching is not. I sooooooo hope I’m wrong, but I just don’t think Kubiak has what it takes. And his assistants sure don’t.

by smokehaus on Nov 2, 2010 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Matt Schaub can put the team on his back

but only for portions of a game. The Patriots comment hits the nail on the head. You look at their team and tell me how many players they have better than us? I mean obviously Brady but look at the offensive weapons he has, Wes Welker is it. And their defense is number 31 in the league just ahead of us yet they are 6-1 and we are 4-3. Coaching can make up for a lack of talent in some areas.

by Biggity B on Nov 2, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Driving the "Kubiak Bandwagon" here.

I gotta be honest. I wasn’t paying much attention in the first half so I can’t bitch about the lack of running game or the play-calling like everybody else in here.

What I did see was the offense trying(and failing) and the defense improving from horrible to just plain bad in the second half.

Im not going to try to make excuses for Kubiaks incompetence(that’s what Rhonda is for), but I am going to point out the fact that this is his first time as a head coach. He’s still learning and making mistakes just like every other head coach out there in the league. It’s unfortunate that he’s too damn loyal to throw the defense under the bus but that’s what makes his players play hard for him. The locker room is 100% behind him, can you guarantee that with another head coach?

And did anybody honestly think that our offense can keep churning out the same numbers with a different offensive coordinator?

This team is getting better with Kubiak as the head coach. Although it’s obviously taking a while to reach the promise land, I see it happening eventually. Why can’t we just call off the dogs and see how this season plays out?

Firing him would be a Jerry Jones move, so I don’t see Mr McNair doing that in the middle of the season.

There’s still plenty of football left to be played.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 2, 2010 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Firing him now would be bad

No argument there. Yes, he’s gotten better. But he seems to lack the asskicker that is usually needed (Dungy and Vermiel aside). I’d say that anything less than 10 wins at the end of the season and McNair would not be a fool to fire him.

Firing him now would definitely be an Al Davis type of thing to do.

And, to be honest, I really like Kubiak and the whole Texans class act organization. But the Steelers have been a class organization for a long time. 6 Lombardi’s (one by a coach younger and less experienced than Kubes).

by smokehaus on Nov 2, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Besides having Chaz The Emperor

as their head coach, how were the steelers able to do that?

Stability.

I mean, it also helped that they had the best defense in NFL history, but still.

A little bit of stability can go a long way.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 3, 2010 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree mostly.

Except where you said this:

This team is getting better with Kubiak as the head coach.

Though there are clearly different ways to measure that, I’d say that progress came to a complete halt after the first game this season. We griped about this team being unable to play four quarters of football last year. This year, they haven’t done it since week one (if you even count that game). And while they’ve taken a big step forward with the rushing offense, they’ve taken two steps back on defense and throwing the ball. Last year, they were within one score in all but one game on the season. This year, they’ve been blown out and embarrassed in three of seven games already.

I’ve been a Kubiak fan for a long time because I’ve seen visible improvement every year—even between the two consecutive 8-8 years. But even though this team has a better record at this point than they did last year, they strike me as considerably worse.

by Nashmeister on Nov 2, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've reached the end of my patience with Kubiak

We need someone who understands how to impose your will in football, not a pansy who tries to “outthink” the opposition.

Exhibit A: 3rd and 2, Arian Foster had not had a carry go for less then 4 up to that point..and the genius Kubes dials up an incomplete pass. THEN, we decide to go for it on 4th and he dials up..YET ANOTHER incomplete pass. If you plan to go for it on 4th and you have a 3rd and 2..does it not stand to reason that the top rusher in the NFL can pick up a yard or two for you?

by leacheatsbabies on Nov 2, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

But you did see an improvement.

Even if it was just for that one game. That means it’s possible that Kubiak and Co. to find a way to bottle up that magic. Because it’s there.

And did anybody honestly see the Texans sweeping the Colts a season after they made the superbowl? They’re just too good of a team.

We’re obviously not improving at a constant rate. But the improvements are there. Give it some time is all im saying.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 3, 2010 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody expected a sweep.

But I did expect them to compete.

Again, to go from a season in which you were in nearly every single game, to a season in which you’re getting blown the fuck out on a routine basis, does not speak to improvement.

by Nashmeister on Nov 3, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we had a competent defense,

It wouldn’t have been such a bad game. The offense stumbled quite a lot last season as well, but the defense was there to pick up the slack until the offense was up and running.

We don’t have that luxury this season. It took a years worth of film for the rest of the NFL to figure out Frank Bush. It really is time to bring the ketchup out and try different things on defense.

Oh, and fuck punting. Why give the ball back to them anyways when we’re down in the fourth quarter. So we can give them a lot of room to run the clock?

Time for kubes to go in gunslinger mode.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 3, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which he will NEVER do....

thus my cries for his head.

To use a very time worn cliche….he just doesn’t have the killer instinct.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Nov 4, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go in gunslinger mode that is.

He doesn’t know the meaning of that word.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Nov 4, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrong

The play calling was horrible. A team that is known to be weak against the run, and we don’t run it down their throats. We don’t come up with anything new. Rather – we run a bunch of pass plays….

Oh, and, do a crap job at pass protection. Did our coaches not watch ANY film and say “Dwight who?”.

The Colts limited themselves in pass yardage with dropped balls. Clark and Collie in the game, Payton passes for 400+ yards again.

No sacks. No turnovers by the defense. Hell – Payton even ran for a first down for the first time in 6 years or something. How pathetic is that.

After we go 4-12 this year, they need to fire the entire coaching staff and start over…..

Kubes will be a good offensive coordinator somewhere.

by Kidaster on Nov 2, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love your optimism, guy.

4-12? Seriously? Get the fuck out of here.

And thanks for responding to my post by dismissing my points and flat out telling me that im wrong.

High five douchecanoe.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 3, 2010 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kubiak is in his 5th year as a head coach

How long do you want to give him? He has a enough talent and has had enough time to put together a playoff team and he hasnt done it. He is a mediocre coach and has plateaued.

by Biggity B on Nov 2, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The season hasn't over

so you know, lets wait to fire him till we do or don’t make the playoffs

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

by nolander on Nov 2, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well im by no means calling for his firing now

there isnt any better option in house right now to be interim head coach anyway. But Id fire Kubiak playoffs or not

by Biggity B on Nov 3, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Till the end of the season.

Did I not say that above?

Having all the talent in the world don’t really mean shit. Team USA says hello.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 3, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I rec'd your Kubiak Bandwagon there, pardner ;-)

I was the most disappointed in the outcome b/c I think we have the MOST potential than we’ve EVER had. But I’m not ready to fire Kubiak.

I’m hoping that he and the other coaches are NOT the idiots they’ve made themselves out to be in this season of 7 short games.

Would we be rattling sabres if we’d won all 7 games? Even if 6 of them were mostly stinkers?

We’ve got 11 games to go and yeah this last bitter loss to Indy was not one to inspire confidence but we DID see “progress” on the defense, however slight. That has to count for something.

If we argue that they’re a young team, and I bet you that we are (even with Turk on the squad severely skewing our average age). We’re still learning. Kubes is still learning and hopefully Dennison is figuring out what doesn’t work so that he’ll finally LEARN what DOES work.

Heck, even Frank Bush is new to the position of Defensive coordinator. This is only his 2nd year.

by BattleRedFan on Nov 2, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad to know that I at least have somebody riding shotgun with me

in the bandwagon. Felt a little lonely there for a minute lol

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 3, 2010 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

=)

anyone who read my post was pretty generous not to point out that I fudged the number of games left …

math check for the win:
4wins + 3 losses = 7 games

16 game regular season – 7 games = 9 games left in the regular season.

unless that 11 more games was my female intuition sneakily telling us how many games we get to play after this loss =D.

I’ll play it as an oversight and honest math mistake. But if we get that far in the playoffs =D I called it ;-).

by BattleRedFan on Nov 3, 2010 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sitting in the back

eyeing the door trying to figure out how much it would hurt to jump out while the car is in motion. If we absolutely shit the bed next week I’ll be on the fuck Kubiak bandwagon, until of course we end the season with a 6 game winning streak. If we come out, play hard, and barely lose, I’m full onboard with teh Kube

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

It happened before.

When the team is backed into the corner and Kubiak is on the hot seat, they respond and go on a tear.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only he doesn't seem to be.
Dennison is figuring out what doesn’t work so that he’ll finally LEARN what DOES work

Like several people have said before….the run worked in week one….now we’re not going to run it the first two series? We won’t run the ball on 3rd and 2 when we have a back that was averaging 8.8 yards a carry? Someone posted all 16 runs Foster made and only 1 yes 1 was for no gain and none for a loss. If I remember right other than the stuff, his next shortest yards gained was……wait for it…..you guessed it, 2 freakin’ yards. And the Colts in an obvious pass rush.

double facepalm*

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Nov 4, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec for swimming against the current.

I don’t really buy the ‘first-time head coach’ angle. He’s had 68 games in charge of the team. He’s anything but a n00b.

Also, I’m not entirely sure that the team is continuing to get better with Kubes as head coach. I think we’ve reached a point where we’re leveling off. There has been some improvement on offense, particularly in the running game, but the offense was already operating at a high level (something Kubiak does deserve credit for). But do we see any improvement in the defense? No, and in fact the defense has gotten worse since last year. At least we were solid against the run last year. We’ve gotten worse at stopping the run this year, or teams are realizing that they don’t need to run on us when they can throw for 8 yards/play on us.

If we found out that Kubes was going to stay but McNair was going to hire a stud defensive coordinator I would be ok with that, because I could tolerate a few hijinks on the offensive side of the ball if we had even an average defensive coordinator. But I just can’t stand how he seems totally fine with a defensive coordinator that makes mediocrity look good.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 3, 2010 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I still want to know (but I'm too damn lazy to google for myself) if Dungy had to peel the Colts off the pavement when he got there

and if so, how long did it take him to get them to respectable?
and how long did it take him to get them to SUPER BOWL?

I’m considering Sean Payton? Is that the Saints coach? I’m considering him an anomaly not a norm for NFL coaches. I’d love it if Kubes became that productive as a coach, I think he can still figure it out. I’m just hoping the Texans get to asking the right questions sooner rather than later so that they get the right answers sooner also ;-).

Did Sean Payton have to get rid of every one of the original Saints in his tenure? Kubes had to get rid of every original Texan. . .We may be forgetting how bad Kubiak’s starting point was.

by BattleRedFan on Nov 3, 2010 3:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

"If we found out that Kubes was going to stay but McNair was going to hire a stud defensive coordinator"

That’s what needs to happen next season if there is one.

And there’s just no excuses for our non-existent defense. The good thing is that there’s only one way to go but up for them. But im pretty sure that Frank Bush is out there somewhere trying to make me eat those words.

"Eff you mothereffer!"

-Bernard Pollard-

by Jordann on Nov 3, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Flawed Logic 101 by our great coach Kubes..

-Have undersized and quicker offensive lineman so we can effectively zone block.
-Have a runner with great vision and burst who can find the lanes created by our small quick offensive lineman in the zone scheme
-Drop back and pass in minimum protection as much as possible with this small, zone blocking offensive line

hmm one just doesn’t seem to belong..

by leacheatsbabies on Nov 2, 2010 7:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Well I guess I am late to the bandwagon.

I’m a Gary Kubiak fan. I think after inheriting David Carr and a 2-14 team, he’s done a fantastic job of making us at least a respectable team.

I think he took on quite a lot and has done a great job drafting and has turned our offense around entirely. If nothing else, we can thank him for bringing us Matt Schaub and developing him into a great QB and leader.

With that said though, I think that after this season it will be time for him to go. I hate saying that as I have never yet doubted that he’s the person to lead us to and through the playoffs and eventually multiple championships. Every year he’s brought us a better team and even though its slow going, I’ve believed for a couple of years now that we’re building a team that will be a perennial Super Bowl contender.

But this year, even while we have a winning record, I just don’t think Kubiak is the man for the job. I don’t know who is, but I just don’t believe anymore that Kubiak can lead us to a Super Bowl – or maybe even the playoffs.

I’ll be sad to see him go when he does. I think that will be a tough day for our team and our fans. But letting him go after this year will probably be the best decision.

As for Frank Bush – I’ll be as happy as can be, the second he is gone.

by WhiskeyR on Nov 2, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

yes

Give me Gruden or give me death.

Reverend Pimp Daddy

by jahunter221 on Nov 2, 2010 8:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Gruden would be worse than Kubiak.

He rode a Tony Dungy team to a super bowl win in Tampa, then drove the team into the ground in a matter of only a couple years. He talks a good game, but he is not a good coach.

by WhiskeyR on Nov 2, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need a defensive coach

I’d be down with Cowher but theres no way he’d come here. Maybe Rob Ryan (seriously) or Perry Fewell.

by leacheatsbabies on Nov 2, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know I'll get banned for this....

but Jeff Fisher’s contract is up at the end of this yr. I think….don’t have time to ck right now.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Nov 4, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leslie Frazier

would be perfect, except Childress will probably be gone leaving the Vikes to Frazier.

by jxjx on Nov 2, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Surrounded by STUPID'S ASS COACHES !

KubiAPE, Dennisuck, and F’%#"!! Bushy Football IQ is no smarter than a house’s mouse!
CowDungboys Game- BLOW OUT LOST
gi ANTS Game- BLOW OUT LOST
PONYColts- BLOW OUT LOST (2 weeks time given)
The bigger the stage, the more lousy they played ! Does anybody out there still think he is a good Head coach! It’s time to FIRE them all ! Heck, you & I probally can coach a lots better than they all combine ! Why is kubi APE afraided to RUN THE DAMN BALL ? Heck, in all 3 big games, the result were about the same,…PATHETIC, nothing short of PATHETIC !

by TexanTool on Nov 3, 2010 12:18 AM CDT reply actions  

You win the award

For cleverest use of the ‘shift’ key.

But not much else.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 3, 2010 2:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey GUYS

after drinking gallons of bleach, i thought about this.

Doesnt Kubiak do most of his winning during November and december?

Alright playoffs here we come…

[Oh great i’ve gone insane… are you happy now?]

by Ivan A on Nov 3, 2010 1:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I am not on either Kubes Bandwagon

But for now, it is a moot point.

I find it interesting that “the fun is gone” I do not mean that you need to run these plays in “key situations” but occasionally you do

What happened to flea flickers, reverses (end arounds) hah!, fake punts, real surprise onside kicks – even a halfback pass – just maybe not when the game is on the line (and with Foster it would probably be effective if he can throw) I don’t mean one game with all of those? But when players are having fun – they play better.

The fun part is not real important, but it does give defenses something to think about.

"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 3, 2010 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

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