Texans Continue to Find Ways to Lose Epically
by Mike Kerns on Nov 21, 2010 4:04 PM CST
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Yawn...
I'm serious.
Like I said in the threads and on Twitter, is anyone really surprised? Personally, I think this one is worse than the Fail Mary. Thankfully, as much as Rip Jersey will say I'm in denial, I have no emotion over this due to indifference towards the Kubiak/Bush-led Houston Texans.
But there are many who still live and die by this team. And while many have hopped on the "Fire Kubiak" bandwagon in the past few weeks, I think it is safe to say EVERY Texans fan has now crossed that picket line and climbed aboard...except for Jordann, probably.
For more details and your chance to throw up in your mouth a little (more), dig in after the jump...
When Houston was down 23-7, probably even the most optimistic fan thought this one was pretty much done. But, Houston did what it always does...it pulls us back in and makes us believe that they have a chance. Even when they made their usual 4th quarter push and even took a 1 point lead with about four minutes left, we all figured the defense was about to do their usual choke job. But when Kevin Bentley (Who played a hell of a game, I must say..) intercepted a Mark Sanchez pass with under two minutes remaining, everyone started celebrating prematurely.
I ripped the team on my Facebook account early in the 3rd quarter and after Houston took the lead, I began receiving all kinds of texts about how I don't believe in the team and what not. Just the usual stuff. This was followed up not too long after with a lot of crow eating by said culprits. Because in expected Texans fashion, they found a way to lose the game.
What else can this team do to break the hearts of its fan base? Because while I may not be the only one indifferent to the Kubiak/Bush-led Texans, a lot of others aren't. But by this point they have to be so far past emotionally scarred that they are left feeling numb after the past two weeks.
And for all of those saying the Texans defense played good today...stop. Just stop. 401 yards and 30 points given up. AGAIN. Still on pace to be the worst passing defense ever. And they even got a decent pass rush going today. Mostly by Mario Williams, who looked awesome.
I guess it is our own damn fault for thinking that one of these types of games were going to finally bounce our way. After the Bentley interception, I was guilty of thinking they had finally gotten a break form the football Gods. But when they spit it up, I still wasn't shocked or the least bit surprised.
The only real debate left is which loss do you find worse? This one or last weeks? Well, like they'd say on South Park, that's like choosing between a douche or a turd sandwich.
The silver lining here is that the chances of Frank Bush being fired before the end of the season have never been higher. If it doesn't happen after this one, it just isn't going to happen. You can blame last week on a "Fluke play" and all that, but there was no excuse to give up a 68 yard drive with no timeouts left and only 55 seconds left on the clock. And not a Brady or a Manning behind center, but Mark Sanchez. That is so far past inexcusable that I really don't have the words.
But I know that you guys do. So fire away in the comments below...
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Unfortunately a couple of the games HAVE already bounced our ways
We should have only won 2 games. We got lucky in our comebacks. I’m not surprised a couple games bounced the other direction. I’m more surprised for the couple that bounced in OUR direction.
We’re a two win team.
Barely.
by WhiskeyR on Nov 21, 2010 4:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
You’re right. This is really a 2-8 team. Unfortunately, it’s a 4-6 team. Nothing will change. And even if Bush is fired, will that really change the team? I think Kubiak, Smith, and most of the staff need to be fired. And to the homers who cry that Kubiak gives us the best chance to be a Playoffs team… what the hell are y’all watching??? I really believe Cowher, or even an average coach, gives this team a better chance to make the Playoffs sooner than later. At least, it’d keep fans around. This type of football will kill a fan base
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
On the same line of thinking
We could be 7 and 3. We just find ways to lose.
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 22, 2010 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not on the fire Kubiak bandwagon...not yet.
Fire Bush? Definitely. Easily. Kubiak…I’m borderline. Dunno why, but I am so don’t ask why.
Kubiak’s post-game comments also don’t indicate Frank being fired. I’m not surprised, that’s not the Texans MO.
Eugene Wilson and Brice McCain should be benched. They won’t be.
I dunno, 4-6….technically alive, realistically dead……and Tennessee comes to town next week. How much worse can it get?
"Lord, beer me strength."
VY got benched
Fisher says he is no longer the starter.
How empty you think Reliant will be next week?
Tear off your shirt
and get the tequila flowing
by PassMeTheBleach on Nov 21, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it should make the follow-up to my VY Fanboys piece from last year
Not as exciting as I had envisioned.
Mike Lombardi commented on Showtime's Inside the NFL a couple of weeks ago...
that Young didn’t attend some of his rehab stuff from his injury. For some reason it seems like he’s still immature.
Benched? I know he left the game hurt...again.
Don’t care how filled Reliant is, I’ll take a win over the Titans. Will it happen? (kanye shrug) But they’re not looking like the team they were in September.
"Lord, beer me strength."
You were right. Just read the Fisher things.
Titans fans are now wanting to fire Fisher.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I'd be glad to have him back in Houston
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
In a heartbeat.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
Please do.....
and Mr. McNair and Mr. Smith….you had better be on the phone with him the next day.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Kubiak should be fired.. along with Bush. Who doesn’t force Wilson and McCain to be benched? Kubiak and company don’t hold people accountable… and that starts with McNair. Rick Smith would be smart to start stabbing Kubes in the back, otherwise he won’t be a GM too much longer.
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
change up the sccheme/idealogy, replace Wilson and add an inside presence @ DT and this is a diff team
by theSpaceCityKid on Nov 21, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
It's about time someone finally starts thinking clearly
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
I hope you are talking on offense as well....
to me the “defining” moment in the game (their were many, but this one sticks out to me), we are up by only one; just got the ball gifted back to us by a timely int on the 6yd line. OK, I fully understand running the ball, I was yelling the same thing, but then to run the exact same run play three times? Maybe it wasn’t, but it sure looked like it to me. Then settle for a field goal and put the game in the hands of the 32nd ranked defense in the NFL with 55 seconds on the clock.
To me that is a boneheaded coaching decision. To me you go for it on fourth down right there. Even though it was the same play, we were still getting 2yds per play basically….and if you , ya know, actually change the play (I know, I speak blaspheme there), you might just make a TD. At worst, if you don’t make the TD, you still give them back the ball in lousy field position and they still only need a TD to beat us. If you do make the TD, they have to score a TD and a two point conversion to send the game into OT.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Your maths are wrong.
If you don’t make it on fourth down, you’re up 24-23. A field-goal wins the game for them.
No way do you give them that luxury, no matter how bad your defense is.
I never jumped on the bandwagon
To fire Kubes. However, if it stops anywhere near me I will step on.
Super bad clock management at the end of the half – not calling the D players together to give them obvious instructions (they need it obviously)
Next week – we fall behind by 17 in the first half – we come back and then epically lose in a new way we have yet to see.
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 22, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
I'm a little torn
On the one hand, I believe Kubiak is a much better offensive coordinator than he ever will be a head coach, but you can’t discard the fact that his offensive schemes are pretty much the only thing we have going for us at the moment. I can’t see a situation where Kubiak leaves and our offense doesn’t suffer for it. So the only way it’d make sense at all is if you’re bringing in a coach whose defensive prowress matches Kubiak’s ability on the offensive end and hoping that the weapons we have on offense translates well enough in the new system…
Personally I would like to keep Kubiak and his offensive staff, but pay a consultants fee to a reputable defensive brain like a Cowher in the search for the new DC and take that responsibility away from Kubiak. He’s already shown an inability to make those decisions effectively, it’d be to the best interest of the team to get insight from a proven defensive mind… This also has a drawback, as it could create tension within the coaching staff and front office, but I think that’d be about the best way to get the best out of both offense and defense in the years to come.
Alot of people complain about Bush’s defensive schemes, but it’s not the scheme that’s the problem. There have been many really good defenses in this league relying heavy on the cover2 and an aggressive front 4… The problem is Bush, or whoever else was responsible for creating the defensive roster, did a pisspoor job of fitting talent to the scheme. We have pretty good talent overall on the defensive line, it’s just that some of that talent is better suited for read and react 2 gap principles than the aggressive 1 gap “attacking” line that Bush’s scheme calls for. We have a solid linebacking group when healthy, but they’re also better ‘read and react’ than the cover2 pursuit, pursuit, and more pursuit type of linebacker. We actually have some decent corners for the cover 2, unfortunately due to our problems at safety we’ve been mixing in more cover3 and man defenses than I think we were intending to and we don’t have the versatility at corner to play anything but cover2 effectively. Safety is kind of a mess, none of our safeties are cut out for the cover2, and when your players are playing outside their skillset they’re going to look alot worse than they actually are… I just think this defense has been a whole lot of fitting square pegs into round holes, we’d have been better off having a clear defensive plan and built the roster to fit that scheme rather than ‘hey that guy looks pretty good, lets sign him!’.
by Bryan72076 on Nov 21, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I would love to keep Kubes as OC
even if he stays as HC all we need is a good DC
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by Joe25 on Nov 21, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd agree with that
But I don’t think that is a feasible option. I know if my boss wanted to replace me from part of my job, I’d get pretty dis-gruntled.
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by distant_texans_fan on Nov 21, 2010 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
There are an abundance of issues...
Jacoby makes me long for Steve Slaton on returns..and that is sad. I would think they could get Slaton in at slot WR ala Reggie Bush at least. He cannot be any worse than Walters/jacoby/Anderson If your defense sucks like ours does, then you have to outscore evryone and we do not have the bullets except for AJ and Foster. I wish they would have signed TO just to have another WR out there demanding coverage….Also..the clock management and coaching is crap. How do you “play for the field goal” down inside the Jets 10 yard line after the pick? Kubiak should know this defense and know he needed a TD in that situation to be comfortable. How do you not have a better play in your pocket on the kickoff return or the weak ass hail mary attempt by Schaub? You had 8 seconds left and field goal range was visible on the Tv screen . I would start looking at impending free agents or even the UFL if you have to to find some DB’s.. I am sick of the draft being all defense all the time and getting ZERO results..play the old Run n Shoot if you have to but do not put anymore games in the hands of the defense
by mjlecompte on Nov 21, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Newb rec
Welcome, mjlecompte.
Kubiak’s clock management is laughably bad. Hasn’t anyone bought him Madden yet?
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thanks for the welcome
long time reader but after the last two weeks i could not keep quiet anymore
After the Int, we needed to run clock
running the clock was more important than scoring a TD. If we had passed and had an incompletion, then we would have gifted them a Timeout. Or worse, an INT, we wouldn’t have had a 4 point lead and they would have had more time to mess with.
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by distant_texans_fan on Nov 21, 2010 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
I would have rather them run it again on 4th and Goal
than kick a field goal. At least at that point they are way deep in their territory. Instead Kubes goes for the FG, then kickoff which they got a decent return out of.
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Nov 22, 2010 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
Respectfully Disagree
I think the Jets had a 15 yard penalty which put them between the 25-30. Texans played it by the book correctly in my opinion. If you go for it, Jets just need to get in FG range to win. I think forcing them to get the TD is the smart play.
I know people will say they should have done this or that (with the clock mismanagement at the end of the 1st half, etc.) but the fact of the matter is you should NEVER ALLOW A TEAM TO DRIVE 70+ YARDS IN 45 SECONDS WITH NO TIME OUTS!!!!
Sorry, I don’t think I can shout that enough. Not meant to shout at you, just…the more I see it, the more I still can’t believe it.
Playing "by the book" is why the team is .500..
all the time . Kubiak should never feel good about a 3 point lead when there is nearly a minute on the clock. Even if they rolled Schaub out on that series, he could have looked for a wide open receiver or tuckd it and ate clock. Then kick the field goal if you have to. The fact that i was worried we left too much time on the clock is sad…I knew Sanchez had the slant open all day long and he missed big on 2 or 3 deep middle routes that would have been TDs ..if i am a nobody and can see that , an NFL head coach should as well
On another subject, why am i always SO nervous when the texans have the ball at the 2yard line or so? I have seen fumbles, 4 runs for no gain , etc. I cannot ever remember thinking “easy td for out back” or whatever. i dont even think we have a had a guy go over the top since David Carr v Cowboys. Was glad to see Foster reach for end zone on his run.
Foster on this team last year
and we win 11 or 12 games.
He is money inside the 10 yard line. That’s the one saving grace.
So if we’re piling on, Foster WAS on the team last year, but Chris Brown was deemed better by the talent evaluators?
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
I'm not against the run only....
but it looked to me like it was the same run play and as HT beat me too, I would rather they have gone for it on 4th down. At worst you hand them the ball in lousy field position and the game is still in the hands of the 32nd ranked defense in the NFL. The still
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Editing fail....
hit post instead of preview….
As I was saying, Jax still just needs a TD to beat us. If we had made a TD, it would have required a TD and a two point conversion….and more time burned off the clock.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
going for it on 4th down
is just a bad call in that situation.
A play takes 7-10 seconds, and then the clock stops on change of possession.
They have 40 seconds and only need a FG to win, instead of a TD. 32/32 NFL coaches kick a FG there. Fire all those coaches, and the next 32/32 coaches also kick a FG there. Going for it there is a Madden move.
I think with the 3 plays we had, we could have been more creative with the run/high percentage pass plays that were called.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
I envy people who say they don't care/are not surprised
Because I am still sick in the stomach.
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Don't worry, you'll get there
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
VY might be done for the year
we might actually sweep the Titans then
by goingforthecorner on Nov 21, 2010 4:12 PM CST reply actions
Doesn’t matter… I guarantee who ever that QB is will have his career day. Come on… 401 yards to the JETS!
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
About 80 in 40 seconds
Last week 50 in 8 seconds.
Ownage.
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by RocketsAstros on Nov 21, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Washington didn't get shredded by him....
So, there’s a chance we don’t?
/won’t admit defeat to Tennessee.
"Lord, beer me strength."
no they aren't
seriously have you paid any attention to their season? Collins has been crap. VY has been the better QB when healthy.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
because they are methheads?
I doubt you could find one person on MCM who thinks Collins has outplayed VY at all this year.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
thats easy
like when the t-shirt slingshot chicks come out, they are cheering for VY to throw them his pads…
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
Might as well add Childress to that winner of a suggestion :p
"Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
So he isn't a downgrade then?
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by distant_texans_fan on Nov 21, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I do not understand
how we are following a “you just dont do that in the middle of the season” mindset when we are on pace to be the worst D in NFL history. I think its far past time to think outside of the box. There are only 16 precious games in an NFL season and I look forward to them like its the night Ill lose my virginity. Its INSANE to throw away half of a season on meaningless coaching and half hearted play. I hope that Bob McNair can recognize this as a bad business situation because sometimes I question how big of a football fan he is.
by theSpaceCityKid on Nov 21, 2010 4:13 PM CST reply actions
Mcnair has a top 10 most valuable franchises in all of sports, that is the bottom line for him. Everything else is just gravy.
by PassMeTheBleach on Nov 21, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Yep. Why change anything? If there’s a lockout next season, people will comeback the next season with renewed hope – and Kubiak as Head Coach.
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
a smart business man doesnt wait for th enumber to tell him to change up
He watches the product and tries to “right the ship” before he shows ANY negatives
by theSpaceCityKid on Nov 21, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Um… the Texans only have ONE winning season… probably will have a losing season this year… and were somewhat lucky to have a winning season last season… why didn’t things change already? McNair stuck with Carr too long… who’s to say he won’t stick with Kubiak stays too long? Not only that, people will continue to go for the next season or two.
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
not for long he doesn't.
Ticket sales start nose-diving now.
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by TexansForever on Nov 21, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
I can't imagine why not
Those of us who have been there from the beginning are starting to lose faith so there’s no way ticket sales won’t suffer
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
McNair won’t fire Kubiak. Maybe Bush or some other sacrificial lamb, but not Kubes. It ain’t happening. McNair stuck with David Carr for Christ’s sake.
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not on the Fire Kubiak wagon yet
But I’m firmly on board the Fire Frank Bush & Cut Eugene Wilson wagons
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Offense ain't been the problem, defense has
Which is why I say Bush & Wilson need to go now
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Kubiak HIRED Frank Bush.
That fail enough for you?
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by TexansForever on Nov 21, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
Remember when that happened? And everyone thought it was a bad idea? Sean Payton hired Gregg Williams. Kubiak hired Bush.
Frank Bush delenda est
Kubiak is the biggest problem. This team has changed defensive coordinators and it’s still the same.. actually worse. Kubes has to go.
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Eagles fan here
Im definitely routing for you guys to make the playoffs this year, so this really sucked to watch. Not to mention Jets fans annoy the hell out of me since they are already getting measured for their Super Bowl shirts.
Make sure you don’t hire Brad Childress as a head coach next season lol
The Jets will lose before the Superbowl. They’ve been winning games they’ll lose in the Playoffs.
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
I don't care whether Kubes stays or goes
But Bush, the entire defensive staff and several players need to be gone tomorrow.
D Line actually showed for a change
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Not several players, just Eugene Wilson
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I think he accidently put on Kareem's cleats today
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
The most productive change they could make right now...
Would be firing Rick Smith and finding a competent GM. Nothing is going to make this team competitive this year, but they can at least start prepping for the draft. It’ll be a relatively high draft pick this year; no sense in wasting it.
Fire Kubes… Smith… and the rest of the lot. Hire a GOOD coach. Only firing Smith or Bush isn’t going to change things. Kubes is the common factor.
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
Take personnel decisions out of his hands & give it to a new GM
That’s a start
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
But how much of the personnel decisions are on Smith and/or Kubiak? From what I’ve read/heard, Kubiak is the one who got Smith hired.
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
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by distant_texans_fan on Nov 21, 2010 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
VY for defensive coordinator.
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by riversmccown on Nov 21, 2010 4:20 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Congrats, Rivers!
You may have found the only possible downgrade from Bush. HAHAHA!
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It’s how to halt an offense.
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by riversmccown on Nov 21, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and beating up strip club bouncers
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
I prefer Jamarcus Russel
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by RocketsAstros on Nov 21, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
Russell is more versatile than VY
He can still block while on codeine
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
How do you........
Keep giving up over 400 yards of offense and 30 points a game and not make some MAJOR change somewhere on the defensive side? (other than bringing Bush down to field so he can witness up close the debacle which is the defense). Im not sure if firing Kubiak, Bush or even benching Wilson will help, but something has to be done. You can’t just not do anything and stick to the same old formula that is keeping this team from progressing, we have actually regressed with a team that seemed to be better than last years 8-8 team!
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can someone edit this and put Texans colors
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
by Joe25 on Nov 21, 2010 4:22 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
As I was watching that defensive battle....
that was the Nebraska – A&M game I was telling my wife, we need to draft that guy (Prince) and a couple other defensive players on either side of the field.
That game was the only thing that took some of the sting out of Sundays debacle. A&M actually has a defense again.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
SOMEBODY NEEDS FIRING!!
Terrible waste of talent, like the Longhorns.
One of the things that particularly infuriates me
is how wasted is AJ’s talent on this team. He deserves better.
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by RocketsAstros on Nov 21, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
He doesn't have the heart for it, literally
The stress might kill him
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Not so sure Rhodes would even matter – not just because his bad heart. Supposedly, he helps Frank Bush out a lot. Not saying Rhodes wouldn’t be a better option, but it’s a moot point anyway.
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Ray Rhodes hasn't coordinated an above average pass defense since the 2000 Redskins
And Champ Bailey and Deion ain’t walkin through that door.
There is nobody on this defensive staff that deserves to call themselves a coordinator.
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by riversmccown on Nov 21, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
THIS. NO MORE promoting from within.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Nov 21, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
for real
Maybe Johnny Holland but that’s even a stretch. And what would he know about being a play caller?
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
last week....
i got a text from a friend that just said “fuck the texans”, and I laughed. This week, i didn’t expect anything else. Being a sports fan in Houston SUCKS hard!
It ticks me off
-the fact that i’m not more upset about this loss.
-that when they were making their comeback, my thoughts were the defense will F this up.
- that i wasnt surprised when the defense gave up a big play with the game on the line.
- that no actual staff changes will be made this season.
The best we can hope for is a new DB coach, & that's about it
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
what the hell hapenned to Gibbs??
I mean, he was supposed to be a solid coach that could squeeze production out of young players. Last season we finished strong with mostly the same bunch but this years they all suck. Every last one of them.
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Not the same players.
Other than Quin, at least, who, despite having a bad couple games, has been pretty similar to last year.
McCain still gets a bit of PT, and he was awful last year as well. Kareem, despite what people will say about Dunta, is considerably worse. Pollard is what he is… The only difference I see is that Eugene Wilson is playing worse. But the blame still goes to the front office for going into this season thinking he was a legitimate starting free safety.
Defense or Offense?
I know what the defense gave up in this game and others and I am not a Bush fan, but the offense was the problem this week. The defense played well considering the scheme they are playing until they got tired. Just think about it how many times did the offense go only a few plays and out in the first half. The offense only showed up late in the third quarter. I am sorry but I put this one on the offense. I know people will disagree but I think the defense does not give up those kind of yards if the offense drives down the field every other time thet have the ball for some points.
Still put it on the defense
Why? Look at what the jets did with their defense. They’re offense was sputtering at first and not getting much done, and we actually were up 7-3 at one point. Their defense played good enough to allow the offense to get on track and held us scoreless in the First and Third quarters. Jets offense scores just enough and the defense is able to hold the other team (even in one of their losses the opposing team only scored 9 points). If the defense could just hold a team to at least one less touchdown than they’ve been averaging (that’s 22pts instead of 28pts which is second most to Ari.) then our offense which averages 24 points (10th in the NFL) would win most of the time. Simple math there.
Every game is an opportunity to measure yourself against your own potential.
But
I can same the same thing if our offense scored one more touchdown we win. The fatal flaw in your reasoning from my prospective is that the better Jet unit, the defense , kept the Jet offense in the game. Our better unit, as far as talent is concern, did not keep our defense in the game. Our defense needs to be kept off the field by our offense driving and scoring.
Asking a lot.....
for any team to consistently score 30-31 points a game (except when they play us)……..It’s not a stretch to ask a defense to hold a team to just three touchdowns…… Or is it?
Every game is an opportunity to measure yourself against your own potential.
No its not
It is not asking a lot of the defense to hold a team to 3 TD’s except they are not very good. When your offense is supposedly high powered scoring machine and your defense is not very good you have to outscore your opponent. Think back to Indy when they went to the Superbowl they had a terrible defense the offense just out scored everyone. I do not believe it to be a stretch to say if our offense played in the first 2 quarters and had 2 additional long drives for some points that the defense would not have allowed that many points. The defense was wore out by the second half. The offenses job is score every time they have the ball and the defenses job is to stop the other team from scoring every time. In the first half the defense did there job better than the offense and in the second half the offense did there job better but h**l the defense was exhausted by then.
You could probably go round and 'round with this...
but why accept failure from the defense and only criticize the one good thing about this team, the offense? How about fixing the defense and bringing it from league worst to below average?
I can not believe this
happened. We should have won. We are almost had that game. Kubiak is such a great coach and he will win a SB for us im sure….plus the D played great until the end….ugh, sigh. they will beat the TITANS next week. GO TEXANS. Yeah!!!
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YEEBEEDABA our D is DOO DOO
my facebook status is
“the Texans are the most spectular losers I’ve ever seen, smh”
this dunce coaching have far exceeded their welcome.. bob mcnair is bordering ignorant also, especially if he continues to praise pubes
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. the Astros have gotten back into my good graces so theyre allowed back into the elite club... GO 'STROS, 2011 NL Central Division Champs!! you heard it hear first!
Did anyone else notice
The epically blatant holding on the jets last touchdown? Someone on the defense (Cushing?) got tackled from behind as he was rushing up the middle
by SATexan on Nov 21, 2010 5:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I don't think it was a hold
Cushing slipped out of his stance and went down. You can dive on top and it’s all good.
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Didn't see that one....
but there were several others that saved a sack.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
This came down to...
1. Offense being unproductive until the 4th quarter
2. Kubiak and Schaub not managing the clock better in last 5mins (should have burned more on last TD drive.
3. Secondary still worst in NFL history
Only positives were we finally got some pass rushing, and Foster still gets it done when Kubiak doesn’t panic and abandon the run.
I put this loss more on Kubiak not managing the clock to win, and the offense failing to give the defense a break the first three quarters.
Sorry, but...
…anytime your offense puts up 27 you should win if you have even a modicum of a defense. The Jets have a great D, one that we could only dream of having, and we put up 27 on them, no fault there.
"Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
The problem is...
they decided to show up in the 4th quarter or sometimes not at all. They have yet to play a full 4 quarters and I believe they won’t until they bring in a new head coach.
Only on thing left to do....
win the whole damn thing division
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
that won't last
and we get two shots against the titans, who have shown the begging of their season to be a sham, the colts can’t stay healthy, etc etc. Here comes Texans Forever in 3…2…1
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The AFC South is a comedy of errors.
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What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Nov 21, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How awesome was that flash of optimism??
You know exactly what you were thinking…….
OH MY GOD, we actually pulled another nearly impossible come back out of our ass!!
WAY TO GO D!! You finally pulled off a game changing turnover in a clutch situation!!
The Titans and Jags are losing, so if we can hold on and pull the upset here we’re actually right back in the division race!! OUR SEASON CAN STILL BE SAVED!!
WAIT!! These are the Texans we’re talking about here……don’t get ahead of yourself here. We can still fuck this up.
OH MY GOD!! We were so close to a sack there. That would’ve ended it but now they’ve got another shot. Dear Jesus, are we gonna blow it again?!?!
Yup. Way to go shitheads.
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RUSTY SMITH
is starting for the Titans next week probably.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Take the probably out
Collins is still hurt, VY’s hurt and benched…..it’s Rusty Smith’s show.
"Lord, beer me strength."
lmao
This is going to be a hilarious game, one way or another.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I hope it is just hilarious one way (our way)
I bet today’s game was pretty hilarious for Jets fans. As I also lol’ed when Schaub hit AJ for a long 4th and 10 TD vs WAS or when Amobi sacked Cassel to end it vs KC. Yeah, I miss that type of hilarity.
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by RocketsAstros on Nov 21, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
Another career day.....
For another QB against our defense….LMAO!!!
Every game is an opportunity to measure yourself against your own potential.
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee coach Jeff Fisher said after Sunday’s overtime loss to the Redskins that quarterback Vince Young has lost his hold on the starting job.
Fisher’s comments follow an emotional day for Young in which the the fifth-year signal caller was booed, injured his thumb, threw his shoulder pads into the stands and and stormed out of LP Field without talking to the media.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Finally. VY done.
In other news….anyonehave the link to Kubiak’s post game presser?
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by TexansForever on Nov 21, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
WOW
Honest opinions here: is this benching deserved because of his play? Because VY still has the emotional maturity of a 12-year old? Any guesses?
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His play has been better....
The torn thumb ligament is another cause for the benching, but Fisher seemed absolutely disgusted with his attitude.
"Lord, beer me strength."
But he was benched after the thumb injury
and thats why he got pissed.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
McNair........
And Kubiak should be beaten in downtown Houston. I don’t care whose fault it is. There has to be a sacrifice.
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by jahunter221 on Nov 21, 2010 5:50 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Crazy game
As a Jets fan, just wanted to say great game and tough loss. We’ve endured a lot of heartbreakers here, but I think you guys cornered the market the last couple games. Once you guys can get any secondary help, you’ll be on your way. Williams is just a beast, and the offense is obviously solid.
I don’t really get the dig on Sanchez though in the recap. He’s played well this year, and those last two passes he threw were things of beauty. Give him some credit. He’s a second year QB, and he has a 15-6 td to int. ratio, plus 2 playoff wins on his resume. That’s not too bad for a 24 year old.
Thanks
One of my best friends is a Jets fan, and he called within a minute of the catch and thanked me for the gift.
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He didn't really have a very good game IMO
When you play our secondary you should, by default, put up 350 and 3 TD’s. That’s all.
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by riversmccown on Nov 21, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
Colts just lost a heartbreaker........
If we hold on for a win, we have a chance to compete with the Jags in the divison with the Titans and Colts losing today. Talk about missed opportunities!!!!! SMH…….
Every game is an opportunity to measure yourself against your own potential.
FML.
Pass the bleach guys.
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Like I said when I stopped by after last week...
if it can’t be us, I want it to be JAX.
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WTF?
Thanks a lot, buddy!
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by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 21, 2010 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry
I’m just ready for somebody else to have a turn.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Nov 21, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
I hate you
oh and congrats on being in first place
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
As an aside
Is there anybody else who wants to buy Richard Seymour a beer?
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by Kiratomi on Nov 21, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Breaking down the coverage on NBC
Jason Allen: Bad technique. Should’ve played Braylon outside in, not inside out…
Eugene Wilson: Stupid. Bad recognition.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I was just going to post the same thing...
Did you hear what a real coach sad though….the Coaching staff had the players in the wrong position…..If Coach Dungy says it, I believe it. Enuff said,
Every game is an opportunity to measure yourself against your own potential.
I like what they both said...
Someone on that defense needs to lose their job.
"Lord, beer me strength."
You forgot to mention the best part
Rodney Harrison- this is unacceptable for two weeks in a row, someone on the defensive side of the ball needs to be fired
by PassMeTheBleach on Nov 21, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
But we all know that won't happen
No one will lose their job, the offense will sputter again next week until the game is outta reach and whoever the QB for Tenn is will post big numbers and look like the best thing since Joe MontainYa!!!
Every game is an opportunity to measure yourself against your own potential.
you are correct
nothing will happen this week, but if Rusty F-in Smith beats us next week, Kubiak should not be allowed to talk to the press, he should be too busy cleaning out his office.
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Rodney Harrison is my new hero
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you!
Allen was just as abused as anybody not named Brice McCain today. His technique against Edwards was terrible. Wilson, though he sucks, still has inside responsibility. Allen has outside. He allowed Edwards to beat him outside where there’s no way in hell Wilson can help. If Allen forces the pass inside, then there’s at least a .5% chance Wilson can get there in time.
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Allen is allready our best CB
And it’s not close. Thats how bad we are
by AllenOU on Nov 21, 2010 6:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think I agree
I DO think he would be a HUGE upgrade at FS, which would improve our secondary play drastically. I also think replacing SHZ with a lamp post would improve our secondary play drastically.
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The thing that makes my blood boil
We gave ’em slants all day…except for the time where they needed to be forced inside.
/facepalm
"Lord, beer me strength."
I Don't Think So
Wilson had over the top deep coverage on that play. He just could not decide who to take.
Is it possible that Kareem was the least sucky of our DBs today?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 12:44 AM CST up reply actions
I thought he looked not that bad
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I think he's slowly begun improving
while McCain and Quin have begun to suck it up.
"Lord, beer me strength."
They absorbed the suck right out of him
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
by Joe25 on Nov 22, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We need someone at the top of the depth chart to bump everyone down....
/prays for Johnathan Joseph.
"Lord, beer me strength."
yeah he would help a lot
too bad this franchise wont offer him a nickel
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
We offered a legit contract to that guy who went back to NE
don’t be that guy.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Quins recent play has been....
disturbing.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
What are the odds someone gets the axe this week?
My guess is no one gets the axe… or it’ll be someone insignificant (i.e. other than Bush, Smith, or most of all, Kubiak).
by Crazy Eye Killa on Nov 21, 2010 6:41 PM CST reply actions
About the same as
Me having a threesome with Christina Hendricks and Alessandra Ambrosio.
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I’m down if you are.
/crosses fingers/
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by riversmccown on Nov 21, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
The details regarding the VY fallout ....
are delicious.
Apparently, he told off Fisher and ran out of the locker room.
"Lord, beer me strength."
From Jim Wyatt (Tennessean)
jwyattsports . .. Young’s reply to Fisher, and I’m paraphrasing: “I’m not running out on teammates, I’m running out on you”
HAHAAH!
I’m going to prove I’m mature by acting like LDJA12.
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I miss the good 'ole days....
week 1
GO TEXANS!!!!
Our time will come...
by Texanmaniac on Nov 21, 2010 7:14 PM CST via mobile reply actions
felt pretty good
after the skins game, I must say. I felt we were destined…
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
I think the last bit of my soul died
I never get the Texans games up here in Oregon, but CBS cut to our game right after our last touchdown. I got so excited that I’d actually get to see my team pull one out. . . and then. . .
and then. . .
/sobsuncontrollably
/theycuttotheendoftheJagsgamelastweektoo
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Alvis bless us, everyone!!
You take the guy who can get outta bounds!..
The inside guy gets tackled and the clock runs, which woulda probably left time for them to clock it, but they woulda had only one play left, at best..
True..
But there’s no excuse for the way Wilson played it, though… Or the new guy, too (#30.. Allen?).. Both failed miserably..
That’s my point, is these guys have no clue what to do.. Like the clock mismanagement at the end of the 1st half.. They CAME OUT OF A TIME OUT and ran the screen, knowing (or at least I hope they did) there was a good chance he gets tackled in bounds, yet they have no 2nd play called, and nobody thinks to call a time out, and they let the clock basically run out..
They’re amateurs, period.. The Mickey Mouse Club..
I wasn't making excuses
I do wonder how a defense that’s premise is not giving up the big play (hence our frustration at allowing offenses to walk down the field 8,10,15 yards at a time) always gives up the big one in clutch moments.
Just watched the replay
after that play Schaub mouths “Why didn’t we use a timeout.”
On the previous short pass, Schaub is the one that took the timeout. So either he’s cussing himself, or he was being told in his helmet to go run a play.
Cuz he’s obviously allowed to make the timeout call, he just chose or was told not to.
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Very Sad must get some Bleach!
I still love this team but man this is painful! The cards are worthless with DA so I dont even bother getting my hopes up cause I know its gonna be a slaughter but to come back and then lose it like this makes me quite ill. then on top of it I think there was 2 snaps that looked a lil on the low side to me I was so bummed! lol thank god the kicks were still good though!
Michael Vick
is gonna pop our eye out and skull fuck us. Not looking forward to that in the slightest.
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by Hugh Jarce on Nov 21, 2010 7:55 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I don't know
I expected us to get fuckstomped in this game and we had it. So I’m sure we’ll have a 34-7 4th quarter lead in Philly only to lose 35-34 on a 99 yard Michael Vick run as time expires.
HAHHAHAHA!
That’s pretty damn perfect, Kernsie.
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no no..WE will be down 34-7 in the 4th
and then we’ll storm back to take our customary 4th quarter 35-34 lead…only to, of course, lose on the 99 yard dash from Vick.
I’ll now be watching the games for one reason only…the hope of watching Eugene Wilson die a slow painful death on the field.
by leacheatsbabies on Nov 21, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
If there was ever a better time for
Cushing to prove something it’ll be against the Eagles. So far he’s been ok but less than spectacular. If he doesn’t show up you’re right, a skull fucking will ensue.
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I don't know, he looked good to me today
Can’t blame him for Wilson biting on Smith instead of Edwards
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Are you kidding.
Cushing was just standing there watching his “very good friend” run on by on Sanchez’ 2 big first down runs
he also stopped LT on the 3rd and 1
and caused the fumble. Those are two of the most important plays of the game
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I'll give you the fumble
but I don’t know how LTs 3rd and 1 was any more important than the 3rd and longs we gave up to Sanchez scrambles. Especially since they were both early scoring drives. If your not behind to begin with getting the stops, a fumble, and scoring late are not posting a comeback, they’re extending a lead.
People associate plays that happen at the end or in change of momentum as more important when really early plays steamroll and have more impact. Don’t need to change momentum if you have it from the start
the fumble was impressive
Considering it wasn’t a strip. He straight up bear hugged Greene and made his arms lock up.
Greene is a big dude so that’s some pretty impressive strength, even if it’s artificially enhanced.
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Nah, he won't do that to us
He’ll be too busy having us strapped down on his rape stand
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by The Night Owl on Nov 21, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Rape stand??
Who is this implying to? Vick? or Cushing cause if Cushing had one I’ll take it for the team for sure! hahahahahaha
Of course it's Vick
Didn’t you pay attention to all that shit in his backyard when he got arrested?
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by The Night Owl on Nov 22, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
I was trying to be optimistic!
Because Cushing gives me very happy thoughts! Now if only they were happy endings! LMAO!!!!
soul crushing
This defense is such a fucking embarrassment. When I saw Mccain fall on that Santonio Holmes touchdown(I believe it was scored in the 3rd quarter), I just couldn’t imagine how these guys even live with themselves every time they step out onto the field. It is so ridiculous to see that the FREAKING JAGUARS are leading this division, and teams like Kansas City and Tampa Bay have winning records after being terrible last year. Also, lol @ Kubiak moving Frank Bush down from the booth onto the field to “change it up,” hoping it would change something on the field. When I heard Dan Dierdork and Greg Gumbel using that as a serious talking point, I lost my mind.
"We're goin with what we got"
he was just preparing him for the FAN STOMP at a Home game
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I gotta say
We’ve had some new commenters lately, and this is another case of excellent analysis from one. Nicely said.
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that was a pretty epic way to fail
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
With our defense
You can’t say that you didn’t expect that to happen. They’ve been killing is with their passing game. Even when they were shooting themselves on the foot, our pass defense always found a way to give up yardage en route to a first down after a 1st and 23.
Im trying to be as HIV positive as I can be, but you can’t say that you didn’t see that happening.
I know I did.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
well sure
its still ridiculous even for a defense as bad as ours to fail that hard.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Frank Bush
will prove you wrong when we play the eagles. Or maybe he’s speeding down the freeway right now. And when he hits 88mph, you’re gonna see some serious shit, or just a worse way to lose than the Q-tip.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
I'm just curious, Jordann
Who exactly was it that hired (and continues to retain) Frank Bush as our DC?
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
not mathematically eliminated yet
so we’re set to lose a few more heartbreakers.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
lost four in a row then won four in a row last year
so it’s not out of the realm of possibility
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by The Night Owl on Nov 22, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
Jacoby
What has he contributed to this season? I’d really rather see DA out there as our 3
not much
He’s not a natural kick returner and he’s no longer a game breaker at punt returner either, so he hasn’t contributed shit to special teams. Add all the critical drops he’s had and I’d say he’s been the least productive WR on offense too.
I’ve been campaigning for DA to see more time all season and it seems they’re finally listening. He’s tough as nails and gives us a spark, plus he seems to know where the 1st down marker is on 3rd and long.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Kubiak firing Bush
would put the blame on Bush, and Kubiak wants everyone to know its “on him.”
I call Bush keeps his job until the meeting with McNair next Friday, when Rusty and Vick combine for 1,000 yards passing en route to our 4-8 record.
Bush is fired, we go 8-8 and Kubiak keeps his job. Pathetic.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
After the Eagles game....
Our coaching staff will be fired. The Eagles defense is sick and shutting down the Giants so far. Vick and Company will exceed 600 total yards with ease. It is scary to watch them against the Giants right now. If his receivers could catch the ball, the score would be 21-3 and it’s only the second quarter and they are still winning 13-3 despite their drops in the endzone.
I don’t wanna watch because I know it’s going to be ugly, but then again it is gonna to be a record breaker.
Just another day
It all started going downhill after the foster non touchdown touchdown non touchdown
by AllenOU on Nov 21, 2010 9:04 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Dear McNair
Fire Bush and Kubiak. The team is following their lead. As you can see, Kubiak is down in the dumps and has no confidence or motivation. RIP Kubiak and Bush
Anyone else want to punch this guy in the throat if they see that damn “airplane arms” shit again?
Classless.
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I did wonder
how that was not considered a team celebration. If two guys making (trying to make) a longhorn sign is team celebration then the whole friggin team running around with wings should definately be
I don't think that was the penalty...
I believe the penalty on that TD was Miles Austin hurdling over Roy Williams head.
No it was on Bryant who imitated Williams
but he screwed the hand gesture up. He was on a C’Mon Man for it
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Nov 22, 2010 5:28 AM CST up reply actions
It wasn't Bryant
it was Hurd. And the officiating crew explained that it wasn’t the hurddle but the dual hand signal that drew the penalty.
Anyone else want to punch this guy in the throat if they see that damn "airplane arms" shit again?
Classic.
Don't ask me! Ask Google, you dumb Yahoo!
by Andre4000 on Nov 21, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Classless?
No, a grown man running around like a two year old who thinks he is an airplane in a professional football game is classless.
If I’d of called him a cock-loving douche nozzle, that MIGHT have been classless. But probably closer to accurate than classless.
by Mike Kerns on Nov 22, 2010 7:19 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Leave Mark Sanchez ALLOOOOOONNNNNE
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Classless? No.
Doing the airplane arms is classless, having the entire damn team do the airplane arms is classless. Doing it for longer than 10 seconds is classless.
Hell, I think airplane arms should be prohibited by NFL rules.
BECAUSE…THIS. IS. NOT. SOCCER!
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by UprootedTexan on Nov 22, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Defense by the numbers......
30.1 – Avg points given up in the Texans six losses
301.3 -Average passing yards of opposing QBs
30 – Number of touchdowns given up (22 passing, 8 rushing)
68.6 – Oppossing QBs passing pct.
110.2 – Oppossing QBs passer rating
108.3 – Average yards rushing a game.
409.6 – Average total yards given up a game (2nd only to Was)
It all equals up to……..Being perhaps the worst defense ever assembled! EVER!!
Every game is an opportunity to measure yourself against your own potential.
I'm glad that you used the word "assembled".
I think it’s very telling.
Indeed
Sort of how some hobbyists “assemble” small airplane models and then have the nerve to act surprised when they fly it into a tree and destroy it. Unless said hobbyist works for McNair, who would obviously spend the next few days trying to convince the watching fans that small planes take time to learn to fly and trees are just part of the challenge.
Bringing new meaning to the word indifferent
Mike Kerns.
Also, aiming your venom at me will hardly give you credibility. But, so be it. Whatever………..
The only fitting part of this for me is, I learned of the Texans demise through the words of Mike Kerns ritght here, right now. It brings balance to my life. I had a glorious day and I knew that things were going just too swell. Thank you for that.
I dub the Jets..... over-exposed
by Rip Jersey on Nov 21, 2010 10:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Did you bring any meat home for me?
I’m down to only one back-strap in the freezer.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 21, 2010 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
If you like yellowfin tuna steaks, yes, I've got your meat
I dub the Jets..... over-exposed
by Rip Jersey on Nov 21, 2010 10:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dunno what to say guys....
I love cheering for the Texans. I mean, I don’t watch them religiously… I’m a Saints fan first. I was lost for words after what happened to you guys last week. This week is similar, though I found some words this time. It seems the defense leaves alot to be desired. Do you guys think it’s more the players or the coaching? Ya’ll might here this alot, but the Texan’s remind me of the Saints from 2 or 3 years ago: an offense that gets the job done but a defense like Swiss cheese. Turns out we just needed a new defensive coordinator. I think it would make more sense to relieve Frank Bush of his duties and try someone else for the rest of the season. Who knows, stuff might start clicking. If all else fails, even after firing Bush, they could hire a new head coach next season. After all, if they are like the Saints, a new/rookie coach means an automatic playoff bid.
"Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
I think the general consensus here is it's mostly a coaching issue.
I can see how someone reading this blog from the outside might get the impression that everyone blames Frank Bush for the failures of the defense but it would be an injustice to completely exonerate the players.
In fact, I tend to believe that a decent coverage free safety could go a long way toward improving this defense to merely terrible.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
It's the perfect storm
of clueless coaching and players who have a hard time standing on their feet.
The one thing worse than a cold toilet seat is a warm toilet seat.
by RocketsAstros on Nov 22, 2010 1:57 AM CST up reply actions
The secondary is just unbelievably bad.
Honestly, the first for rounds of our draft needs to look something look something like this:
CB
FS
DT
best remaining DB
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
Of course, we'll get something like this:
WR
OG
undersized DT
TE
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
Don't you mean
Kicker
Punter
Back up Kicker
PAT Holding specialist.
Houston Texans - Once again proving it's possible to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Should be...
DT
FS
Kick Returner
But we’ll get…
TE
WR
OL
Late pick TE
FA backup QB to dump in preseason
Actually I agree with you with the exception of
What it really should be is trading off our draft picks for experience. We have a young enough team, and it’s actually very skill rich to spite the presentation of the contrary. But, it lacks emotion and proper coaching schemes. Most folks here blame the losses solely on defensive aptitude, I agree to a certain extent. But the offense shares the burden. Not so much as the D and their lack of execution, but primarily in the clock management aspect. This once again leads to the common denominator (never thought I would actually use that term in real life, thanks schooling system) of the coaching staff. Fact of the matter is, players do what the coaches tell them to do. Although I highly doubt that the coaches tell the secondary to miss tackles, but at the same time, many of the tackles they miss are on running backs. Corners aren’t SUPPOSED to tackle RBs. That’s why the good Lord made Linebackers. But when they are lined up as deep as the safetys…I kinda think the rest speaks for itself.
Houston Texans - Once again proving it's possible to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
I agree
Failing to drain time off the clock in the drive during final five minutes is what cost the game the most (Kubiak owns that).
Offense failed too many “three & outs” before the 4th quarter, and didn’t give the defense time to rest. Sure they racked points later, but they have to stay on the field more often and extend drives to give the defense a blow.
Final nail was Bush failing to scheme the secondary outside and force plays inside and in front of them to ensure the clock expired vs letting a deep and outside like they did.
Bush is gone tomorrow. No way they can keep fans without a profound reaction to spark change.
I can't believe I thought our defense would be a strength this year
I consider myself an optimist about this team..but when i’m sitting here looking at quite possibly the worst defense in the history of the world..I have to wonder whether or not I become mildly retarded every offseason and believe this team will actually be better.
by leacheatsbabies on Nov 21, 2010 11:34 PM CST reply actions
Breaking News!
The French Army now fans of the Texans and very supportive that the title “worst defense in the history of the world” is just a few weeks from being reassigned after nearly a century.
Man, we are gonna be good next year
I say at least 8-8. That should land us another top 15 pick to pave the way for another interesting offseason.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
by texanphil on Nov 21, 2010 11:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
We are playing like it's the off season.
Houston Texans - Once again proving it's possible to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
I would start lookin foward to the draft
But i think the downfall to the season started secretly from the 3rd round on in the 2010 draft (i think kareem will be decent in a better system.) Cant really get excited for somethin you kno we will some how fuck up
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Don't Forget
There won’t be football next season. So says everyone.
Sharpton
How do you guys feel about his play today?
And to back that up....
Dustin Keller had a very quiet game….the Jets only averaged 3.3 YPC…..and the LBs forced a fumble, recovered a fumble, and intercepted a pass. It was easily their best game, and those 3 should get the start from here on out…especially because Zac Diles sucks.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Nov 22, 2010 12:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wanna put some money on Diles starting again next week?
Because I would be massively surprised if he didn’t.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 12:48 AM CST up reply actions
No thank you
I know he will…even though performance dictates he should be a special teamer at best.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I think since it'll piss off most of us
its gonna happen
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Bentley stood out to me
You could see some veteran fire coming from him and he was popping dudes pretty hard. He was disruptive and seemed to help raise Cushing’s play.
I didn’t notice Sharpton as much but I did see him in on a few plays.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
He's a Rookie
And in the future he’ll be good. But he really got thrown to the wolves this season. Trial by fire. But that’s not going to unfuck any of the coaching staff’s ill-advised calls. Assuming somebody in the front office has half the brain of a retarded frog, they will keep him and COACH him.
Houston Texans - Once again proving it's possible to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
My bad, misread that one. I was talking of "Fall Down" Jackson.
Houston Texans - Once again proving it's possible to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
NO FUCKING WAY
YOU SHOULD EVER ALLOW A TEAM TO DRIVE 72 YARDS IN 45 SECONDS WHEN THEY HAVE NO TIME OUTS LEFT!!!!!!
Sorry for the caps. I just…I mean…its baffling. I think Peyton Manning is one of the best qbs of all time and I didn’t think even he could do this. To allow it to a scrub prima donna like Dirty Sanchez? Sickening. The only thing that could have been worse would have been if it was a VY led Titans comeback.
Of course we now know that will never happen again. Though my hope is that Satan fires Fisher and keeps VY. Then we hire Fisher with Wade Phillips as DC for the next season they play football. This is all I have to look forward to.
The Katy High School QB
would likely be able to drive 70 yards in a minute against our defense. I give Sanchez absolutely no credit for that drive whatsoever.
by Bobbythegreat on Nov 22, 2010 1:30 AM CST up reply actions
In fact
Any QB who doesn’t put up at least 275 yards against our defense should be benched immediately.
by Bobbythegreat on Nov 22, 2010 1:32 AM CST up reply actions
We fudged the coverage
but he made two very good throws.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
They weren't that special
if we had a defense, they would almost certainly not scored.
by Bobbythegreat on Nov 22, 2010 1:37 AM CST up reply actions
If we had a stack of DVDs
they would have almost certainly not scored.
Or… if we just blitzed JUST LIKE we did the drive before that.
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by RocketsAstros on Nov 22, 2010 3:20 AM CST up reply actions
They where practically the perfect throws to make in those situations.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I'm down wif dat!
Then we hire Fisher with Wade Phillips as DC
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
At least we can look forward to instilling false hope into Titans fans
After their 3rd string QB posts a 100+ rating on us, the fans and the coaching staff will flock to him as the answer. Then it’ll take a few games of third string worthy play for them to realize that he was just playing a historically bad defense. Hopefully in that time they’ll have lost enough games to be out of contention.
^^^This.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
This team
is the Cleveland Browns v.2.0 this team won’t make the playoffs for atleast 3 years even with a new coach.
Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
U guys just wait...
AJ will probably truly want to leave this team…again! Its not the Offense but the lack of the ability to have a formidable winner.
You nailed me
they have to be so far past emotionally scarred that they are left feeling numb after the past two weeks.
Make it the past three weeks Ain’t that the truth
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 22, 2010 10:08 AM CST reply actions
Is it just me
or is Turk sucking every bit as bad as the defense. I’ve had girls kick their panties farther than he has punted the last 3 weeks.
by sick&disgusted on Nov 22, 2010 12:21 PM CST reply actions
agreed.
send those women this way please.
by Danpassurweenie on Nov 22, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
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