Post-Game Breakdown: Texans Stink, Mount Impressive Comeback, Yet Still Lose Game In Heartbreaking Fashion To Jets
I watched yesterday's game with my family. It was a typical game-watching experience--some frustrated profanity, some nervous excitement, some Coors Light, some cheering, some dejection, some more frustrated profanity, some more Coors Light, a slight amount of disbelief, a hefty portion of resignation, and so on. As your Houston Texans erased a 23-7 deficit to pull ahead 27-23, with the Jets having no timeouts left and less than a minute on the clock, I remarked aloud, "It's not over." After the last Neil Rackers FG, I even went so far as to text several of my friends:
"Oh, and the Jets will get the ball back with :45 seconds left. It ain't over."
Many responded with incredulity. "No way," replied no less a skeptic than BFD. "You're so negative," my sister said. "Quit hatin', yo," spat my mother. My father, beaten down by nine years of fandom and season ticket payments, said nothing. My dog was quiet as well, though I could tell he agreed with my observation.
I tell this story not to brag about some supposed awe-inspiring insight on my part. As I've noted on countless occasions in this space, I could not be further from an expert. I am, however, a fan of the Houston Texans. And if that's taught me anything, it's that we should watch Texans games with a constant sense of foreboding. A sense that the the other shoe will drop. No lead is safe. No game is put away. Nothing is won. As noted philosopher John Rambo would remind us, nothing is over:
Yet, for all of that, I just can't turn it off. So here we go with another painful PGB...
At the outset, I do want to mention a handful of positives (and there were several, even with the result being what it was):
1. Especially considering how low the guy must have been after last week, how about Joel Dreessen--4 receptions for 106 yards and a monster TD? Phenomenal.
2. David Anderson got some targets for the second week in a row, which was nice to see. Jacoby Jones is in danger of getting Steve Slaton'd when it comes to being involved in the offense. And like Slaton, that'd be totally deserved.
3. Fumble aside (which occurred on the exact same try-to-swim-the-ball-over-the-defender move that resulted in a fumble earlier this year), Arian Foster continues to show he's no flash in the pan. He had some success running the football and was an even bigger threat in the passing game. He won't be in the discussion because of how Houston's season is likely to turn out, but the guy deserves MVP consideration.
4. Mario Williams almost single-handedly determined the outcome of the game with his play in the second half, much like he did in the win over the Redskins in Week Two. He was so effective that it'll only serve to re-urge the question of why he can't be that guy far more frequently than he is.
5. Matt Schaub had far from a great day, but he put his team in position to win the game with his play in the fourth quarter. Got to dig that.
6. As good as the Jets' defense is, the offensive line did yeoman work keeping Schaub upright for the most part and occasionally springing Foster.
7. I think I've been about as positive as I can be. Well, check that: I'm positive that Gary Kubiak's clock management is as bad as it's ever been. Five years into his NFL head coaching career, I'm not sure he understands that timeouts don't carry over from the first half. Thinking that he was shrewdly maintaining a bonus timeout for the second half is the only explanation I can come up with for his decision not to use his final timeout after Arian Foster's 20-yard reception with more than 20 seconds left at the end of the first half in NYJ territory. Instead of putting together some sort of planned strike, the Texans were content to flail around, wasting time, a strategy that ultimately and all too predictably resulted in zero points. Again, five years in, that situation has to be managed better. You could chalk it up to growing pains in '06; it's simply inexcusable in 2010.
8. Now, for a word about the defense. I can't write anything that you haven't already read before. The words we often use to describe the Texans defense--bad, horrible, terrible, awful, abysmal, inadequate, lamentable, pathetic, contemptible, rotten, horrific, worthless, wretched, crappy, deplorable, abhorrent, abominable, detestable, disgusting, pitiful, vile, ignominious, shameful, embarrassing, appalling, repugnant, atrocious, reprehensible, noxious, miserable, heinous, loathsome, revolting, horrid, iniquitous, reprobate, defective, unacceptable, unsatisfactory, slipshod, stinking, putrid, godawful, dreadful, lousy, ruinous, wanting, paltry, execrable, odious, loathsome, offensive, scurrilous, nefarious, beastly, opprobrious, grievous, vexatious, irksome, galling, calamitous, pestilent, pernicious, toxic, catastrophic, Frank Bushesque--don't do it justice.
9. Props to Thesauraus.com. When you're looking for a new way to say "suck," it's an invaluable resource.
10. Glover Quin, Kareem Jackson, Brice McCain (who for my money is in the lead for "Worst DB On The Roster" at the moment, which means he probably wouldn't be allowed near any other NFL team's locker room), Jason Allen (despite his recent acquisition, fitting right in seamlessly), Bernard Pollard, and Eugene Wilson comprise the worst secondary you'll ever see. The last two receptions, to Braylon Edwards and Santonio Holmes, would have been busts of shocking proportion to any other team. For the Texans, it was business as usual.
11. 2nd and Goal from the 4 yard line? You better make sure to give your man an 8 yard cushion. We can't afford to let him beat you deep!
12. If you were an opposing offensive coordinator, wouldn't you be tempted to run nothing but slants? If for no other reason than to see if Frank Bush ever caught on to what you were doing?
13. The Jets went 72 yards in 49 seconds. With no timeouts. I have a hard time imagining there's another defense in the league that would have allowed that to happen.
14. And yet, there's very little doubt that Frank Bush will be "leading" the defense again on Sunday when the Titans come to town. Indeed, during the game, the broadcasters mentioned that Gary Kubiak was shaking things up by insisting that Bush call the plays from the sideline. Any other team would have shaken things up by canning Bush weeks ago; Kubes shakes things up by giving Bush a better seat.
After a 3-1 start that engendered so much hope, your Houston Texans have dropped four games in a row and five out of the last six games. While not mathematically eliminated from the playoff chase, dreams of the franchise's first postseason bid are circling the drain. It's late November. Sounds like we're right on schedule.
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Didn't respond to that last text
I was talking to a cute Ravens fan at the bar who took pity on me. I told her this defense would find a way to lose. Her jaw dropped at the Holmes reception. I was just like, “And there it is.”
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Nov 22, 2010 5:26 AM CST reply actions
The Losing Edge
At this point the only solace I can find stems from convincing myself that the Texans are really a performance art troupe that is on a season long interpretation of the South Park episode “The Losing Edge.” The coin flip banter must be with the Texans stating that there’s no way they can win as the other team is a real winner. Clearly the Texans are now practicing the art of losing; perfecting it in a way that is breathtaking. Truly my main complaint now that our team is so committed to their craft? We don’t have a Randy Marsh vs. Batdad in the stands. This ones for you Texans….“you’re the best around, nothing’s ever gonna bring you down.”
Rob Schneider was an animal. Then he was a woman. And now Rob Schneider is... a stapler! And he's about to find out that being a stapler is harder than it looks. Rob Schneider is… "The Stapler". Rated PG-13.
by benbiggles on Nov 22, 2010 5:42 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Yes, yes I am
And as luck would have it I actually have an Adam West style Batman costume from Halloween a few years ago. I won’t be an exact copy of Batdad as I’m missing about 100lbs but it might just work. So look for me at the BESF’s game next Sunday!!
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Cushing showed up, so did the run D...and Mario was the monster we all know him to be...
And it was good to see that we can move the ball on a good run defense. Seeing Arian juke Revis was awsome
by BleedBattleRed on Nov 22, 2010 7:15 AM CST via mobile reply actions
The run defense did show up...
I know it’s grasping for straws, but that was nice to see.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Don't forget Bentley
For the positives: Bentley play a great game, was all over the field, and had an interception.
For the negatives: Why did we have to endure the Cushing at MLB experiment for two weeks, Kubiak? Seriously?
Gary Kubiak, Head Coach of Houston Texans 2006-2011
And for a rookie
I thought Sharpton did a good job. Diles should never touch the field again unless there’s an injury. Of course I firmly believe he’ll be in the backfield next week.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 8:08 AM CST up reply actions
Gary says he's going to Pro Bowls
Sorry, Darryl.
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by riversmccown on Nov 22, 2010 8:31 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe he'll break his leg
In practice again while wearing no pads and with no contact.
Frank Bush delenda est
Does that mean we can shoot him?
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by UprootedTexan on Nov 22, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
maybe you can help me with this
I always hear about how this team isnt equiped to run a 3-4 but after a draft and free agency period to add depth, is the LB corps of Demeco and Bentley inside and Connor Barwin/Pollard and Cushin outside and a front 3 of Mario, Shaun Cody/Mitchell (bc i think they are both better than Amobi) and Antonio Smith not a valid option? I would personally love to see that combo and as far as the secondary we would let Troy Nolan play SS like originally planned (bc Pollard is just a mess in coverage) and draft/sign a new FS in the offseason. This also opens the door to gettin Wade Phillips in here as DC. If not please explain what you want in that personnel.
by theSpaceCityKid on Nov 22, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
If Shaun Cody/Earl Mitchell are your nose...
that will be a worse defense than this season.
"Lord, beer me strength."
3-4 defensive linemen are mainly run-stoppers
Occasionally there’s a beast like Richard Seymour, but for the most part you want your linemen to be able to be strong enough to hold the point of attack first and ask questions about their pass rush second.
Essentially, for a 3-4 defense to work in Houston, you’d have to move Mario to OLB. Mitchell and Cody wouldn’t fit in a 3-4 in any form, and Okoye MIGHT be good enough to be a rotation DE. You’d have to build a new defensive line from the ground up. I’m not sure that passes the cost/benefit analysis sniff test.
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by riversmccown on Nov 22, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
i think mario and antonio could be the 3-4 ends, with a true NT
LBs consist of cush, meco, diles/bentley, barwin.
you would want someone better next to meco, but for a year this would work
draft th kid from auburn, or ……………wait for it…………… use free agency to HELP your team
i say trade mario for picks and keep antonio, but rest of dline starts from scratch
and i hate to say this, but pollard has got to go
Mario's pass rush skills will not get utilized as a 3-4 end
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Never know, being a 3-4 DE didn't hurt Bruce Smith too much
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by The Night Owl on Nov 22, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
what about Demarcus Ware?
arent him and Mario similar builds and skill sets?
by theSpaceCityKid on Nov 22, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
You said "with a true NT"
lol
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
Id say Mario and Smith
do pretty well against the run on a consistent basis. I would be in favor of drafting a nice FS No.1 and bringing in a nice nose through FA. If that was done could we have a serviceable 3-4 to build on? It just seems like a scheme that has more versatility than a 4-3 to me. With the passing game becoming more and more a part of the NFL playbook it seems like you want to have the most “all around athletes” on the field as possible and LBs best serve that role.
by theSpaceCityKid on Nov 22, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
what I would like to see
is more of a hybrid approach. Mario is a rare building block in that he is one of the few DEs who can play run and pass, most are lightweight pass rushers these days. You could play him as an outside technique at OLB/DE with a 300+ lb guy next to him for a run stopping alignment, and then flip him inside (with a faster OLB outside him) for the pass.
Even though most 3-4 DE’s aren’t good pass rushers I really think this alignment could cause some serious pass blocking issues (or at least more than we do now). If Mario is playing somewhere inside the tackles inside shoulder with a LB outside him rushing the passer it’s difficult to scheme how to block that combo. Mario’s best (and maybe only) move is definitely the bull rush, which fits better in this technique, so there is a good chance of him either blowing through between the G and T or tying up the T so that the OLB gets free. The other benefit to this is making it easier on our rushing LB, who would likely have to be Barwin or a non-1st round rookie—since they desparately needs to go to NT or FS. Ironically that is the type of pass rushing “help” Mario has long needed and never really got.
I know that’s just one small subset of a scheme but I hope it shows the type of defense that could be employed using the resources we have, if we only had a coordinator with some creativity.
OOhhhhh
Your next text had me confused. I mean, “No way it’s over,” not “No way they’ll score.” I figured, with 49 seconds left, they could go up and down the field on us twice with ease.
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jet fan here
Was at the game, brilliant finish. Really enjoyed reading the open thread a couple of posts down this morning. Some really funny comments after that INT. Talk about emotional swings!
Glad our misery brings you pleasure.
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by riversmccown on Nov 22, 2010 8:05 AM CST up reply actions
Jet fans know EXACTLY how you feel ...
Except our frustation goes back about 40 years. Two years ago, there is no WAY we win a game like this – no way. All Jet fans knew it. It is amazing what a change in attitude brings. Rex Ryan has turned it around.
To Mario Williams – my opinion, he was shutdown in the first half by D’Brick Ferguson … Woody (Jets RT) got hurt near the end of the first half, they switched Williams over to the left side and he had a field day against Woody’s backup. Great adjustment by Houston, but give props to Ferguson.
Also – Nick Mangold has a short little radio show/interview on our local ESPN radio station. He said Houston’s d-line was outstanding – he had a ton of respect for them. He expected a battle of lines, and he was right.
by SpaceForThePoppa on Nov 22, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
We switch Mario around all the time
He rushed from both ends of the line, and in the fourth he was just as good working against the LT as he was against the RT.
Personally, I think he’s better at LDE than at RDE.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting thing about the defense
They’re totally mixing it up. Instead of leaking seven-yard gain after seven-yard gain, they decided to keep the same average per play, only bunch it up in a series of big plays sandwiched in between decent play. So instead of the Jets going 5,4,7,6,8,5,3,7,7,4 yards per play like teams have in the past, it was more like 2,3,12,1,4,16,3,22,1,35.
You know why they did that? Just to give us false hope.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 8:11 AM CST reply actions
they did it
so Gary could say there were a lot of positives things that justify why the worst DC in NFL history will remain employed.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I watched with family too
and after that touchdown everyone asked me why I wasn’t more excited. I said, “Even if we win this game, they’ll just get our hopes up and crush them later.” They understood my pessimism 49 seconds later.
Dear me
Schaub on 610 just now says (RE: the last drive) “We weren’t trying to score. We were trying to use as much clock as possible and make them burn their timeouts”.
Queue mass hysteria claiming “PLAY FOR TEH WIN STUPIDAK”!!" :(
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Yet it worked.
They did exactly that.
And still lost.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 8:31 AM CST up reply actions
If they had scored quickly
then resultant lynch mob would have been for that.
"Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
This quote reveals as much about what the coaching staff thinks of our defense as anything else.
It’s a given that with a lead you want to run the clock down in the fourth quarter as much as you can. But it seems like they were actually afraid of scoring too quickly because there was no faith that the defense could hold with like three minutes left, even if they were up by eight.
Say what you will about Rex Ryan, but could you imagine him doing that?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
LOL
They did what every other team int he NFL would have done. I was more surprised, especially given our defense, that Ryan didn’t call up an ole D just so they would have more time to come back.
And they still would have found a way to win
"Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
score a TD quickly
and the worst case scenario obvious thing our defense does is give up the game tying TD and resultant two point conversion. Taking us to overtime an onside kick scenario followed up by a hail mary that is knocked down to send us to OT into the arms of Santonio Holmes.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
You run the clock but
3rd and 4th down coulda been more creative. Well at least 3rd. 4th woulda gotten Kubes hung if they went and didn’t make it.
Just cause you’re running the ball doesn’t mean you go gut 3 times in a row
"Just cause you’re running the ball doesn’t mean you go gut 3 times in a row"
this.
Creatively run the clock while trying for 6. I want a pass, but a high, high percentage pass on one of the three downs, and the runs should be creatively designed to score, not just kill clock.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
LOL
and when that pass falls incomplete you would have slated them for not running more clock off knowing our D! hahha I love Monday morning QB’ing – it’s too easy :)
Or if Matt throws another P6 like he did in Arizona? Dear me, the things people say.
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nope, sorry
I said as much in the thread.
I wanted 6, at any cost. But, yes, run on two of the three downs to kill their timeouts. Very conservative, but not 100% by the book conservative. This defense needed 6.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
In a game, 60 won't be enough for this defense
Considering that they need under 8 mins to score that for the opposing team.
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Of course monday morning QB'ing
is easier and I wasn’t asking for a pass but shit a counter/misdirection/sweep/something that’s not try to get a great push which is not what our line is designed to do. You can have safe and try to score at the same time.
Know your personel.
1. good running back…check
2. solid TEs (god knows we’ve had enough to pick from)…check
3. Undersized but quicker o-linemen picked for zone blocking scheme… check
4. Smash mouth run!!!!! Fail
5. Defense able to defend the pass for 45 seconds!!!!! FAIL
Our personel gave us the best chance to win by going for the score. Read the game thread to see that it’s not monday coaching. It’s real time.
We play for the loss
Consistently. Punting on 4th and 2 against the Skins in OT? Playing for the loss. We do this weekly. I’ve never seen a more by the book coach than Kubiak, but yet, he still doesn’t understand clock management.
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Playing for a loss?
We won that game. And running the ball and kicking the FG was the right thing to do too.
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by distant_texans_fan on Nov 22, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
I disagree....
as others have said…..go for the score….that takes a two point conversion to to send the game in OT.
Nope, this coaching staff goes for a FG and hopes the 32nd ranked defense in the NFL can hold for 45seconds.
And even though I wasn’t in the game day thread, I said the exact same thing sitting there on the coach on Sunday afternoon.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
If that's truly the case...
Then winning that game doesn’t matter at all, because you’re not going to finish any better than 8-8.
Much like last year when they couldn’t punch the ball in from the one yard-line given 3-4 attempts, if you can’t trust your defense to hold 80 yards in 45 seconds with no time-outs, then just forfeit the game, because your team is fundamentally flawed.
It's called....
playing to your strengths.
We the fans knew it was allot to ask of this defense, the coaches should have as well. I wish I knew football as well as some of the others on here, then I would be able to site team after team that have had some pretty glaring faults, but their coaches knew how to minimize those faults and or maximize their strengths. The Baltimore Ravens come to mind, but I can’t remember the yrs when their offense truly sucked, but the coaches knew how to use what little offense they did have and maximized their defense.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
IMHO
Exactly. You maximize your strengths and minimize your weaknesses. As common sense as that sounds, the Texans don’t do this well.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 22, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
wait...
BFD said “no way”???
I blame BFD for everything. Including this hangover. I certainly can’t blame Eugene or Brice… it’s not their fault they suck.
See my comment above
You should know my cynicism better than that!
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I blame bfd as well
for premature apologization about the FG decision after the comeback.
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HAHAHA!!
I’ve got no chance on this one, do I? :-)
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Lets be real
Whoever keeps throwing Eugene Wilson out there in crucial times needs to be fired.
Whoever doesnt throw all DBs out there for the final 40+ seconds of a game to stop deep passes needs to be canned.
Game over. Dips#!t you’ve f***ed us over long enough.
Why do we use press coverage
on the hail mary last week, but give up the slant on the 4 yard line v. the Jets?
Why does any defensive coach still have a job as of 9:30am this morning? That is why Kubiak should be fired by noon.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
and yet in today's presser Kubiak said that Wilson will be starting again Sunday
the beat goes on
to the question of why not a cover 3 instead of a cover 2 on that last long pass play? he responds that it doesn’t matter what scheme you play, only that you execute it well. I think Kubiak is lost. He knows Wilson has been getting beat deep all year yet he does nothing to try to protect his weakness. So frustrating these Texans are.
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by oiler-texan diehard on Nov 22, 2010 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
Wilson's starting
but Nolan’s snaps are now up to 30.
Not to say it’s better…but just clarifying.
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Numb but not stunned
I think this re-run was just numbing. I love the Texans but it is like being an abused spouse. I keep hanging out keep watching them.
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#11
i was shouting at my TV….WTflikity flark is that….are you waiting on the fade? that DB would never ever see the field or a texans uniform after that…or should it be BUSH….these guys are world class athletes…why do they look so bad…..they were DRAFTED, they cant be that atrocious.
RIGHT?
so it has to be BUSH, its always been BUSH…bush bush bush , freaking bush….how did he fool us last year….was daunta that great, that made up for bush being bush?
the rest of the season is WIN, WIN….we win and that is always good, and if we lose, then that is a higher draft pic, pubes and his girl friend (errrrrrrrrrrrrr, R. smith) being fired, and THAT is always good.
YEEBEEDABA our D is DOO DOO
Defensively, is it the coaching or the players?
Not a Texans fan, but was rooting for them. Texans have some great players in certain positions.
Outside of Mario
We aren’t exactly brimming with talent. But we were much less talented in years past and didn’t have the worst pass defense in NFL history. I suspect this team is, overall, slightly below average talentwise, but not the least-talented defense ever. That’s why I blame the coaching more than the players.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
Also...
We simply don’t develop players. I can’t name a single Texan with the possible exception of Mario who has gotten better after his rookie year. This is a huge problem with our coaching staff I believe goes over-looked.
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Schaub
Foster, Leach, Dreesen.
Oh, defensively? HA. Nevermind. We should just have our offense play both ways. They are better coached.
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Oops
Thanks for catching my error.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 22, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
The jets are
a top 5 NFL team. And we outplayed them at their house. But lost.
Sounds like us v. the Colts every year. This is on Kubiak. We are talented enough to win, we are almost coached well enough to win these games. Or we were coached well enough to win except for the crucial times in these games.
We lead the league in moral victories in the last 4 years.
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I'm curious
to know how you heard Frank Bush telling Hall to give up the sideline and Wilson to bite on the first look from Sanchez?
"Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
The coach is responsible
for what his players do on the field. Especially when it comes to positioning.
I just look at where they were, and say based on that one play, and the press coverage last week on the hail mary, that we are coached very poorly at crucial times of the game.
ND Kalu was saying on the postgame that it doesn’t matter if Bush was telling him to give up the sideline, he shouldn’t give up the sideline. Not knowing what was said/coached, I would say if the majority of players wouldn’t give up the sideline as a default, that either he was coached to give up the sideline, or the coach didn’t tell him one way or the other. Both are bad.
Are you assuming Bush was screaming at him to not give up the sideline, but he disregarded this?
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Frank Bush is to blame on the Wilson case
Eugene should’ve lost his job a long time ago.
"Lord, beer me strength."
And put in...
Wrong Way Nolan? Frying Pan or Fire. You choose.
"Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
I never said Nolan was worlds better
but he’s A) faster B) a better tackler and C) has better hands.
What does Eugene Wilson offer? He’s slow. He misses tackles. He, as a veteran, could be a leader and maybe be a great play dissector. Nope, he makes the wrong read and ducks out of the locker room after a loss. Dude offers nothing. At all.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Nolan is all those things
but it’s not much help when he’s frequently more out of position than the CBs
And yes, I understand it was the coaches who thought those 2 were good enough when clearly neither of them are.
"Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
Don't forget D)
There’s some prayer in hell of Troy Nolan figuring out how to be a safety that might be usable in the future, while Eugene Wilson is probably going to have to retire this offseason due to lack of interest.
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by riversmccown on Nov 22, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
Basing this on a game and a half of work?
He’s pretty awful as well. And he’s most certainly not faster. 4.7ish 40-time; that’s DE-speed.
by Nashmeister on Nov 22, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not basing it on a game and a half of work
I’m basing it all on what is seen from Eugene Wilson every single week.
Start undrafted rookie Torri Williams, for all I care, but Wilson should be benched and/or cut.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Let's say you have two Yugos
One of these Yugos was made in 1980. It used to run pretty well and it’s been with you a long time. Recently though, it’s stopped working, no matter how much money you put into it. You also have another, 1986 Yugo. It’s still a Yugo, but it runs a little better than your 1980 Yugo, not a lot, but a little. It’s a pretty good bet you ought to make a change.
Of course, what really happens is that it doesn’t matter which Yugo you choose, because Frank Bush will promptly drive either off a cliff.
Frank Bush delenda est
by JimboTexan on Nov 22, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
Ya I hate wilson too but Nolan has not really proven he deserves more snaps
He has been just as bad as wilson but he is often costing the team with penalties, Damned if you DO and Damned if you Don’t. That is the season in a nutshell
I blame Bentley for this loss
Had he not returned the interception to the 10 yard line, Kubiak might have considered going for a first down to run the clock.
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
No
but you are assuming…
that either he was coached to give up the sideline, or the coach didn’t tell him one way or the other
quite a bit with that statement. Kalu is correct and while I’m no fan of Frank Bush, I think the probably is about 100 to 1 that A)he wasn’t told to give up the sideline and B)he shouldn’t need to be told not to give up the sideline.
The point is players make mistakes and sometimes don’t do what coaches tell them to do. The defense for that down, distance and time in the game was fine, the execution was pathetic. Which, I will stress again, if a player (Hall, Wilson or McCain) doesn’t know by this point in his career that the fundamental elements of good coverage are, they will never know.
"Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
i didn't assume anything
there are really only 3 scenarios.
a. he’s told to give up the sideline and he did as he was told
b. he’s told not to give up the sideline, and he disregarded this and common sense
c. he wasn’t told one way or the other and just disregarded common sense.
hence my question, not any assumption.
Either scenario is on the coach. Poor positioning does not equal poor execution. If the coach put them in the right position and the jets made a play, that is poor execution. If they are in the wrong place for whatever reason (see the 3 choices above) that is poor coaching, either on the field at the time, in practice the week before, or in camp.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
looks like
everyone involved with the Texans shouldn’t play the odds, we’ll never win.
I think the probably is about 100 to 1 that A)he wasn’t told to give up the sideline
Looks like thats how he was coached.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
Help Kubiak..
where should Frank Bush call plays from next week
A) MLB, so he can play QB for the defense
B) FS, so he can understand why EWWW sucks
C) CB, so atleast one of our CBs can get some rest from getting burned
D) From his home, because it does not matter
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Despite all of this
I will be there next week. Because I hate myself.
Frank Bush delenda est
by JimboTexan on Nov 22, 2010 10:37 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
same
_
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Nov 22, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Ditto
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
In this case meaning in front of my tv
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 22, 2010 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
This team is as compelling as a horrific train wreck
The games they play are almost always exciting to the very end, frequently with the outcome in doubt up until the last few plays. Yes there has been much sadness the last 4 weeks, but how could a real Texans’ fan stop watching at this point; inconceivable to me. Who among you was not jumping and screaming with joy when Bentley intercepted that pass with just a few minutes left to play? After the screaming subsided, I was transfixed in stunned disbelief that the Texans could actually pull off another miracle comeback against one of the best teams in the league, ON THE ROAD!! Are you freakin’ kidding me? Like others have stated, I knew it wasn’t over when we settled for the 3, but noone could have known in exactly which fashion they would invent for their implosion. As masochistic and self-deprecating it is to be a Texans’ fan, the juice of the emotional roller coaster is worth the price of admission. This is a real-life tragedy being played out before your very eyes; far better than any novelist could pen.
This season has been crazy so far, and despite the 4 game slide, the Texans’ are not out of it. They should be, but check the standings. I can’t realistically imagine this season having a happy ending, but I know I’m not going to stop watching any time soon. See you on Sunday.
GO TEXANS!!!!!!!!
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Nov 22, 2010 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
10-6 wins the division, says I.
What a drag… The one year it’s realistically in reach, and we can’t get our shit together.
On the bright side, we’re 2-3 in coin-flip games now, and we just played pretty well in the toughest game on our schedule. Perhaps the next one will go our way to even things out. That means we need still need five convincing wins after that, though. Jax at home, two against the Titans, Denver, and to a lesser extent Baltimore at home are all winnable. Philly… Not so much. But with the state this team is in, 3-3 would be a pleasant surprise.
I will too.
Bringing my bleach in a nice thermos.
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makes this loss
so much more disappointing.
We could head into next week with the chance of first place in the south.
Its hard to enjoy the dumpster fire that is VY after yesterday, which is saying a LOT.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
Its Coaching and always has been coaching that has stifled this franchise!!!
The only time Kubiak is right is when he says, “It’s on me!”.
It’s sad when only a handful of players go above their assignment on the field on a given play. It’s even sadder when one of the few is your kicker.
Pollard’s hit on Sanchez? Even if he lives in a cave he has to know that a high or low hit on the QB will be called and a fine is coming. Coaching!
Foster’s fumble in the EZ against SD. How does he not know what the NFL rule is in that situation. It was the #1 topic in the NFL after week 1 and Megatron’s TD-nonTD catch. Foster said he wasn’t aware of it after the SD game. Maybe he was still basking in the euporia of his game against the Colts. The coaching staff should have been hammering it into the skill players that whole week like every other team in the league must’ve done. Coaching!
Our DB’s standing around in the EZ last week on the Q-tip watching Quinn bat the ball. As soon as he went up for the ball they should’ve been looking for a Jag player to smack anywhere near the area. Maybe they didn’t know they could do that. Either way it would have meant they had to go to another level on the play. Coaching!
At least the Jets had Edwards back in coverage on Schaub’s Hail Mary attempt on our last play yesterday. He tried to catch the ball! I’m sure Andre would’ve have relished being in that positon last week.
Let’s not even rehash the Capers era. COACHING ON THIS TEAM SUCKS!!!!!
Pollard?
I meant Smith’s hit on Sanchez. I can’t even keep my idiots straight anymore. To many of them on this team making boneheaded plays. COACHING!!
Pollards hit
was legal when you watch the replay. Close so guess can’t blame the ref but legal. He led with shoulder and the head actually missed/ maybe slightly grazed Sanchez
Help me out
Let’s put a package together for the next team that even thinks about interviewing Kubiak for ANY position on their team.
Here’s what you get with Kubes 100% Guaranteed:
- Obligatory 4 game mid-season losing streak(usually in November)
- 5-7 starts in your first 12
- “It’s on me”
feel free to add
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Nov 22, 2010 10:50 AM CST reply actions
Worst Defenses in history:
1. 2010 Texans
2. France (1940-1945, 58-51 BC)
3. 1976 Bucs
4. 2008 Lions
5. OJ Simpson (2008)
Fire Frank Bush please.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Nov 22, 2010 11:04 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
If the glove don't fit you must acquit.
If the defense doesn’t makes stops you must……FIRE FRANK BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why am I even wasting my time responding to a "Salad". Ugh. Yeah… shit team"
Here's the French War Flag during that time

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by The Night Owl on Nov 22, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
FOR SALE: French Army Rifles!! Never been fired. Only dropped once.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Nov 22, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Do not overlook
The Franco-Prussian war.
Frank Bush delenda est
Or the Spanish Inquisition.
You know, since nobody expects it. Hey! That’s what the Texans defense should be called.
The Texans Inquisition
Announcer: And here comes the Texans defense onto the field.
Grand Inquisitor: Nobody expects the Texans defense!
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Nov 22, 2010 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks TF, the French reference made me laugh
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Nov 22, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
Lmao France !
Brightens my horrible week a bit.
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Vikings
Sweet they just made a coaching change, maybe in the off season we can grab someone off their defensive staff to come down here, and the 49’s still suck hopefully we can get someone from there. Or maybe we will just end up with some random man off the street from Denver.
Their defensive staff isn't that impressive
It’s a big reason why they’re 3-7.
"Lord, beer me strength."
and their DC Leslie Frazier, one thought quite highly of, is now the HC
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Nov 22, 2010 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
Just waiting.......
on the breaking news that the Texans fired somebody.
My attitude is like a virgin......I dont give a fuck!
Uh-oh
Adam Schefter Tweeted: Texans owner Bob McNair fires Kubiak and names Frank Bush interim head coach.
IT CAN GET WORSE!
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Nov 22, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
In Smithiak we trust(ed)!
by 5stringJeff on Nov 22, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
This just in...
The Houston Texans have just announced the firing of the waterboy.
Apparently it’s on him that the team wasn’t sufficiently hydrated and unable to make the correct play.
Kubiak said in a brief press conference “this should REALLY shake things up.”

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by UprootedTexan on Nov 22, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Two coaches have been fired after playing the Packers
this season. Brad Childress and Wade “cream puff” Phillips….are the Packers on our schedule? Please someone make it happen.
"LoL
Why am I even wasting my time responding to a "Salad". Ugh. Yeah… shit team"
Some crucial moments that screwed us
- Right after we score, the D allows a 2nd and 23 conversion
- Kevin Walter dropped a somewhat easy possibly TD catch
- Matt Turk was horrible, I can safely say he is singlehandedly responsible for at least 3 Jet points
Some good moments too:
- AJ ridiculed Revis on that long catch in the 4th, that was sweet
The one thing worse than a cold toilet seat is a warm toilet seat.
sad about Turk
he was one of the bright spots last year. But then again we’re not asking him to dunk it in the 20 this year. We’re asking him to rocket it out of our side of the field which has never been his forte’. Like trying to get the half court 3. Even if you’re a good 3 point shooter that half court shot sometimes flies into the stands
coaches
The Texans are unbeaten in excuses. The are like butts and belly buttons. Everbody has at least one. The Texans are way ahead. They have an overflow of butts.
by Stoneham Flash on Nov 22, 2010 12:25 PM CST reply actions
Funny enough
we are only 2 games behind in the division.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Damnit quit getting my hopes up
I don’t have enough bourbon to last and I can’t stand the taste of bleach
Bush should go
because he is in the way of us closing the two game gap.
Kubiak should go unless we make the playoffs at the end of the year.
I’m cool if that happens. Problem is, the two are mutually exclusive. Kubiak will not fire Bush.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
Kubiak
said that the defense performed better with bush on the sidelines… so their gonna keep him on the sidelines.
Better than what?
The Defense was bad terrible most of the game
"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 22, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Not really that bad
keep in mind the offense and Turk where handoung out good field position all day long.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
against what standard?
a top 30 defense would have been embarrased by the performance yesterday. Excluding the final drive, we gave up 23 points to a mediocre offense.
Oh, then there’s that fact that you can’t exclude that final drive.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
The final drive turned a good performance into an awful one.
But they were on the road, they forced two turnovers to give our offense great field-position, and our offense/punter handed the Jets at least six points on the turnover and bad punt.
Thank you for ignoring what I said about field position
how many times did the Jets start inside our territory? How many times did they start past their own 40? 4 or 5 times I bet.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
3 in our territory
and another start on their own 45. Yes you can’t completely ignore the last drive, but until that drive they had simply not been that bad when you consider how awful the offense and turk where for the first 3 quarters.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
hell forgetting the last drive
and the 3 times they got gimme field goals due to field possessions, they had 16 points.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
our standards are too low
I cannot accept removing the last drive from the effort put forth yesterday, because it defines our season.
So, including that drive, we gave up 30 points to the J-E-T-S offense. (no pick sixes from their top 5 defense)
Its normal for us to give up 30 points, I admit, but still not a good performance, points wise. You can say the offense got handed a bad deal, too, since you are implicating them for giving the defense a raw deal. The starting field position sucked. Is that back on the defense along with the special teams?
As my 4 year old says frequently, “You get what you get and you don’t throw a fit.” Our defense needs to play better, wherever they are on the field. And not give up 30 points and 300 yards passing to every team in the NFL.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
They did play better
The defense isn’t responsible for the offense taking the ball, not moving it, and then punting it all of 30 yards. Like I said, the offense handed them 9 free points, and it was actual a damn good job by the D not to give up more in those situations. Nobody is saying the last drive counted, but its clear that outside of that last drive they played much better yesterday.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Nobody is saying the last drive counted
Well, except the Jets, and the NFL, but I assume that was a typo, so I’ll stick to the standard…
outside of that last drive they played much better yesterday
“Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
that was a type
should have said nobody is saying the last drive didn’t count.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
You can shove your head as far up your ass as you want
but it doesn’t change the fact that the defense played better.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I'll have to wait for DVOA for confirmation
but I cannot agree with this because we held the jets to a few FGs.
Its the Jets.
its clear that outside of that last drive they played much better yesterday
What good defensive stand do you want to remove from the equation since you exclude their horrific, game-imploding, season-ending last drive?
This isn’t VY, you can’t discount the bad, and only count the good.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
I would prefer to use common sense
but the hysteria going on in these parts apparently won’t allow that.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Let's keep moving him closer to the action then...
like face down on the 50 yard line! Toro can come out and rape him right before the national anthem to get the 15,000 fans who showed up that day to really scream in excitement for kickoff. You know, right before the Texans come out flat and squeeze in one score between “3 & outs” before falling behind 17 points at half time.
Then Toro can invite other visiting mascots to run out to mid field and do a gang bang on Bush to keep people from leaving early. Then the Texans can make a huge comeback and blow the game in the final play as Rusty tosses for a 92 yard pass play to win the game and break his first 300 yard game for the win.
by MeMongo on Nov 22, 2010 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well said sir.
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That fact serves to strengthen the pain from yesterday even further
A win would have actually been huge for us.
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by RocketsAstros on Nov 22, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
The onside on every kickoff strategy
is moving closer to reality.
I think its entering “best chance of winning” territory, from a probability standpoint.
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