FSN Houston, Chronicle: Finnegan Knew What He Was Doing
Per ESPN's Paul Kuharsky, there are reports that Titans CB Cortland Finnegan said, "Watch this" to the Houston bench on the play before Andre Johnson smacked him around for throwing his hands at Johnson's face mask.
I know no one is surprised that Finnegan instigated, but there's further proof.
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The sh*t-eating grin he wore all the way to the locker room was all the proof I needed…
Gary Kubiak, Head Coach of Houston Texans 2006-2011
by bv on Nov 28, 2010 7:23 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
One would think he'd get pelted by cups of beer on his way to the locker room
But I’m sure Texans fans don’t waste good alcohol like that
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by The Night Owl on Nov 28, 2010 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
Are you calling the beer at Reliant good alcohol?
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There's a lot of premium beers at Reliant
depending on where you are. But definitely available within throwing range of Finnegan.
Heh im sure they was watchin that ass get whooped!
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
This reminds me of a redneck's last words.
Hey guys! Watch this shit!
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-Wise words from a dude named Tim
Exactly
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by The Night Owl on Nov 28, 2010 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
Fisher's attitude afterward and comments at the presser should be enough for the NFL
To suspend Fisher for promoting thIs crap. His attitude is to “let the front office handle it”’ is blatent lack of leadership. How about coaches get their organization under control and not dump garbage like this on NFL fields and the front office?!!!
If I was comish for a week, I would suspend Fisher for 1 game and fine him $100K for ignoring this issue for years, if not down right promoting it. I’d suspend Finnegan for 4 games and fine him $100K for a 4th game with this type of issue. Then I’d staple a warning of permanent league suspension for any more fighting or dirty infractions. I’d fine Andre $75K (one for each landed haymaker) for being a first time offender. I’d also fine the refs $5,000 each for allowing the on field issue to develop to that level. By ignoring the issue the plays earlier, they left Andre no choice but to take matters into his own hands to beat down that filthy cheap punk who should be swimming with the fishes tonight.
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by MeMongo on Nov 28, 2010 7:38 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
fisher could have been flagged on the ply too
After things had cooled down fish was still near the middle of the field barking while the refs were trying to get play going.
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by papabear on Nov 28, 2010 7:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think he said that because he knew he couldn't defend Finnegan.
I mean, how can you defend that toolbox?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 4:50 AM CST up reply actions
Rec'd
because I’ve believed for a long time that the real problem w/ that dirty leprechaun Finnegan is that the Titans’ coaching staff (starting and ending w/ Fisher) didn’t nip this in the bud to begin with. His claims that they don’t coach this are lame, at best. The head coach is responsible for the attitude and integrity with which his players conduct themselves. It is now obvious where Jeff Fisher’s team gets its “dirty play” mentality.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
This whole Fiasco has me really reconsidering the whole Team Fisher for The Texans
by BleedBattleRed on Nov 28, 2010 7:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I concur
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by The Night Owl on Nov 28, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
Fisher's strategy in that game has me reconsidering him as a head coach here.
The Texans were putting 9-10 in the box every play, and he only let Rusty throw one deep ball the whole game. I know it was a shitty throw, and I know that’s not what the BESF’s are good at, but if you’re trailing 17-0, you should at least playcall like you’re TRYING to win.
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by riversmccown on Nov 29, 2010 5:09 AM CST up reply actions
just playing devil's advocate here.....
Just maybe he wasn’t trying to win. Consider for a second that Fisher may be so tired of this hillbilly shit that he’s pulling a Chilly, and using the circumstances to get himself canned.
Not likely, but still possible. Just sayin
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Doesn't Fisher have an option in his contract?
Not sure if that is right, but I doubt he would make a conscious effort to lose. He can always just resign.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
he might but
resignation usually means forfeiture of the remaining money owed in the contract. It’s usually better financially to get fired because you still get paid what is owed.
Like I said, it’s not likely but you never know.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Last week I was one of the crowd thinking Fisher would be good to have in Houston
then after seeing his stats as a coach, and now remembering that he encourages dirty play, I have no appetite for him to come to Houston.
I’ll stay behind Kubiak until the season is over and weigh in opinion then. I still think the defensive coaching needs something more, and all the coaches should be somewhat hammered in review for taking a ten game experiment to find a working formula (that’s what pre-season is for).
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His Coaching
Did seem questionable. There are deep throw you can try. Then again maybe he saw how much Moss was slacking the whole game and decided he wouldn’t get open anyways.
Hoping weird stuff really does only come in 3's
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 29, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Who announces something like that?
“Hey guys, watch me get my ass whooped on live TV”.
Congratulations, Cortland. You really changed the complexion of that game by getting Andre ejected (and getting the shit knocked out of you) when the game was at 17-0 in the fourth.
by Nashmeister on Nov 28, 2010 7:43 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
historically
bad things usually happen right after the words…..“hey, watch this!”
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
AND did y'all see how he seemed to think that HE should not be ejected.
THAT was funny as s**t!
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HAHA gotta love houston!
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by UHdustin on Nov 28, 2010 7:45 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
Yeah crowd went insane when they showed him on the screen
He was icing his hand, which made me laugh like hell.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
Wasn't really the loudest - that was right at the end of the game, with the Rockets hanging on for the win.
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best tweet of the night
@DerrickWard32: Great win today. And Yes I’m saying it Titans are some straight punks especially that lil Leprechaun Fennigan can’t wait to see them again.
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by papabear on Nov 28, 2010 7:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
How could some one on the Titans coaching staff not know what Finnigan was up to? what
Bad thing was I had to tell my six yr old that what AJ did was wrong and that he should not Have acted that way. AJ is our fav player but I couldn’t have condoned what happened and have my boy think it’s okay to act that way…I did send him out the room and say to my wife,“Andre whooped that ass!!!!!”
by BleedBattleRed on Nov 28, 2010 8:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Fisher cheered and patted Finnegan on the head several times afterward.
Many of the Titan players were taunting us fans at the stadium for about five minutes after the big brawl was broken up. There should have been additional penalties for their rude gestures and additional behavior while refs were sorting through the mess. Fisher and Finnegan should both be kneeling at the front office for this crap. We had a lot to explain to our kids about all of it when both benches emptied and the Titans acted that way without their coaches doing anything.
I feel bad that we (fans in attendance) cost the Texans a time out as we were screaming so loud for Finnegan to get off the field. Andre had long left for the locker room but Finn stayed on the sideline after being ejected as well. That jerk should get removed from the NFL.
"The great defense against the air menace is to attack the enemy's aircraft as near as possible to their point of departure." ~ Winston Churchill
Note to Bushiak: "JAM receivers at the line!"
Yeah from my angle in crowd I could see no. 95 and no. 93 of the Titans were taunting the crowd.
It was funny because the very next play no. 95 missed a tackle on Arian Foster
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Um, WTF were they taunting for???!!!
They were being shutout. I’m confused.
Small victories.
I guess they’ll take anything they can get when they’re getting shut out by one of the worst defenses ever to take an NFL field.
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About that.....
The Texans D was so dominant that they are probably top ten now.
I dub the Jets..... over-exposed
by Rip Jersey on Nov 29, 2010 6:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
It was sort of a tongue in cheek comment.
The defense played better for sure, but they had plenty of help from the other side. This is not a sign of things to come just yet. The Thursday game will indicate which sideline had more to do with Houston’s defensive performance on Sunday.
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kubiak called the timeout because the refs screwed up
Told him it was fourth down, so he called play accordingly. Once he realised the mistake had to call timeout. Fans @reliant do need to be a little more knowledgeable and quiet down on offense though.
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by papabear on Nov 28, 2010 8:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
^This - We're supposed to know football here in Texas
Some of it may be due to fans for the visiting teams, but not all of it.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Nov 28, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Most games it's pretty quiet on offense actually
But we blew the lid today until Finn was finally in the tunnel. Amazing the refs didn’t enforce his removal before starting the play clock. He refs own a piece of this fight due to their lack of early enforcement on bad behavior, and the cleanup afterward.
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Note to Bushiak: "JAM receivers at the line!"
I'll bet anybody a nice, shiny quarter...
that Fisher is gone after the season. Is there any doubt at this point he has completely lost the BESFs?
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they are lost
and word is Beelzebud has already said he’s paying the roster bonus for vy next year.
I think Fish will opt out before coaching vy next year. If the quarter is that he’ll be fired, I’ll take it. If the bet is he’s not coaching the BE-SFs in 2011, I don’t want to lose that quarter.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
I don't want him back in Houston
He lost me today. I was on the fence with it before, but he definitely lost my interest today.
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by .Bonzo on Nov 28, 2010 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Oof, good call
The bet is, there’s no way in hell Fisher is back as head coach in Methopotamia next year.
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you can keep your quarter
he’s opting out before coaching vy.
vy gets one last harrah in 2011 with Mack Brown as the new coach of the Tennessee Titans.
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We'll give you Greg Davis, too!
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might as well just go ahead and start calling us the LA Titans
i finally understand all the rage from you guys. Bud is Al Davis, only he’s better at hiding it.
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Hey with the Jags, they'll have two teams in LA again!
That would be interesting in the same division
When a child asks you what a douchebag is, just say Cortland Finnegan.
I started typing out a longer answer
But no, no you don’t. No offense intended. Cleveland Browns and Baltimore Ravens fans might know, though.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 28, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
not saying i've experienced it
but i finally get that it’s more than just the usual “he stole my team” thing.
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by hal41605 on Nov 28, 2010 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck you, hal
I say this because I won’t get banned here for expressing my opinion to a fan of the BE-SFs.
I will enjoy this sweet victory. I am glad we beat down your team and your cheatin’, dirty players.
Now go home.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
/dismissive wanking motion
i don’t play all that retarded banning nonsense so take it up with someone who gives a fuck.
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sorry
I thought I read somewhere that you were the
Official Enforceror something.
I guess that’s just a load of crap?
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
that's definitely tongue in cheek
enforcer != banner
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kthxbye
I guess I will lay off you now.
My retarded cousins are all over me to lay off you because you are a fan of their favorite player team.
Did I mention I hate VYFBs more than you? And I’ve been saying that for 5+ years now, and only now are you seeing the light re: this and Beelzebud.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
Bud is very much like Al Davis
Except Bud still lives in Houston and stinks up the joint. Would be sweet to see Bud, Al and Jerah all get out of the NFL. Those three owners really funk it up for the league and fans.
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Note to Bushiak: "JAM receivers at the line!"
Just noticed the new sign line
Very awesome.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 28, 2010 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks! Good to see you here for our post game party tonight.
"The great defense against the air menace is to attack the enemy's aircraft as near as possible to their point of departure." ~ Winston Churchill
Note to Bushiak: "JAM receivers at the line!"
Houston fired its owner.
We really did. Told him to take his shit and leave, and he did. No one has ever missed that scumbag Adams. No one has ever missed the curse of choking his existence placed on the team.
Enjoy LA!
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my recollection of Bud Adams was that he was a spoiled brat
He’d go and demand that we build him a new stadium or else.
The city of Houston basically said “we’ll take your ‘or else’ . Now go away.”
He was frivolous in the way that he ran the team (I never knew what a GM did for a team until Rick Smith for the Texans — for me this is not only indicative of my football ignorance but it’s also indicative of Bud Adams acting as if he were GM. I CAN see his point, he IS the owner of the team).
As soon as Bud was gone as a Houston team owner, it seemed like Houstonians came out of hiding from Buds constant barrage of BS and we pulled together and got the resources to build our football stadium (now known as Reliant Stadium). It was great. The building of Reliant stadium was like the entire city of Houston popping the bird to Bud Adams.
Regardless of how bad our Houston football teams have been, historically, we DO know football in Houston and we knew all too well how much and how often Bud Adams shovelled BS at us and popped the bird to his fans before we EVER rejected his plea to build a stadium.
Sorry y’all have to deal with that idiot. I’m sure he always felt like Houstonians should have been more grateful to him for bringing us the Oilers. But we’d finally gotten fed up and decided that as abusive as this relationship was, we, Houstonians, could do better.
This is why we’re always so thankful for Bob McNair. To me, he really did bring football back to Houston. He got the group together to make a stadium happen, did what it took to kiss up to the NFL so we could get a new franchise here. The man (McNair) is awesome.
by BattleRedFan on Nov 29, 2010 1:18 AM CST up reply actions
Building Reliant was the biggest possible FU we could have given Adams.
Of course, his demand was for more stuff done to the dome – much cheaper than what we actually did by building a new facility. Still, we got rid of Adams and then built a shiny new stadium. That’ll always be a favorite memory.
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ahhh ok
I didn’t realize that bit about the Astrodome.
But yeah it was good to get rid of Bud as an owner of a Houston football team.
by BattleRedFan on Nov 29, 2010 2:12 AM CST up reply actions
Beelzebud wanted a downtown stadium
That’s what got him kicked to the curb AFTER forcing renovations to the Dome. Nothing was ever enough for that entitled little cock gobbling douchenozzle.
Blind fandom is all I got left.
by LoneSpot on Nov 29, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Beelzebud
Also, as I’ve said for years, he was despised as an owner as long as I can remember (starting in ~1975). He was hated, booed, etc., all that time.
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*sigh*
And the worst part? The D lost us the aTm game. Ugh.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 28, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Not a bazillion turnovers and 17 free A&M points?
I disagree.
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It was group suck
And not the kind I usually like on the Internet.
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see, you can post on here
and not get banned.
Its a novel concept.
Now GTFO.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
again
that shit’s got nothing to do with me. wouldn’t ban anyone even if i could.
your retarded cousins hanging from VY’s schlong have forced me to look elsewhere for football discussion every now and then and you can cyberblow me if you have a problem with it.
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We have lots of Colts refugees here
And I don’t mind seeing one of the two sane BESF fans posting here either.
Especially if they hate VY like we do.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 4:54 AM CST up reply actions
Not Liking VY is a Plus
Hoping weird stuff really does only come in 3's
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 29, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
Bud says
both will be back “because that’s what contracts are for”
/cuts self one more time
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you should worship
Beelzebud. Methopotamia will never have an NFL franchise when he pulls out.
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MCM is joinin BigBadBrad
I just got the banhammer for callin out Cort.
Sucks to be a fan in methopotamia tonight.
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Consider it a ban of pride and wisdom
Anyone who supports Finnegan’s behavior is a sub-human. That clown is a classic troll who stirs up shit and then pulls up just in time to get other players to get suckered into penalties and fines. He’d be tossing salads five time a day if he was in prison.
The Titans and their fans have really fallen to all new lows this year. At least the other two teams in our division, and their fans, are first class.
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no, he's
“fun to watch” and he clapped because “he got what he wanted.”
If he wanted a beatdown like that, then I guess he’s jealous of vy’s wonderlic score.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
He has this tough guy act that's hilarious.
Does anyone wonder what would happen if the players just made a circle around the two and let them settle it?
Best outcome for Finnegan – a Tennessee Titans Electric Wheelchair – for Free!
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Heh
The only message is: Troll.
Wow. Thin skin, much, gramsey?
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as a mod he has special powers
including seeing why you where banned.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I got banned week 2 last season.
Can’t say I miss MCM.
You are banned from Stampede Blue.
You can browse the blog, but you can't participate.
Hi CFHTim. You're trolling yet another SB Nation blog. Since you've been banned from several other SB Nation blogs, you don't get a warning. You get banned. If you want to get unbanned, email BBS and state your case for re-admission.
I refuse to review/peruse that blog.
WHAT A WASTE OF TIME !!!
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Manning is choking like finnegan in a fight right now
How very odd. If we somehow pull off a big upset Thursday, we could be in the running for the AFC South…
I was going to say something along the lines of "Chargers are pulling an 'Dre and beating the shit out of the Colts"
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Reading the comments from this article
It appears the Nashville fans aren’t enamored by Bud, Fisher, or Pissagen (as in I’ll piss again if Dre pops me upside my raggedy head!).
"There is always someone on your heels that will keep you on your toes!"~Arian Foster
Hmm, NBC post-game....
The suspension talk centers on Finnegan, not Johnson. Fine talk is on both.
Will be interesting to see what NFL does.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Pretty funny to hear all of the announcers supporting 'dre.
If you listen to the game highlights on nfl.com, whoever is commentating on it says something like, “I don’t know why Finnegan is smiling when he just got his—”… then it cuts out, but he was clearly about to say “ass handed to him”.
Anywho, tomorrow will be intriguing indeed. What he did was completely awesome, and completely necessary. But rules is rules. Throwing punches… I just don’t know how the league is going to see past that. A suspension would not surprise me, nor would it strike me as overly harsh.
However, all of the crap coming from Fisher about Finnegan keeping his cool? No way. He threw the first punch, he just missed. Should be a game and a fine for each of them. And they’ll both be back for the next match-up, in which Andre will go off for a 150+ yard performance like he’d done two of the last three games before this match-up.
by Nashmeister on Nov 28, 2010 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
10 bucks finnegan gets suspended for more than 1 game.
No way the league wants both of these guys on the feild together at the same time so soon.
Michael Irvin on the Andre Johnson fight
They teach you how to play football at Miami, they teach you how to study, but just in case, they teach you how to throw a few blows
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by The Night Owl on Nov 28, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
They teach you how to study
lol
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 5:27 AM CST up reply actions
thats a euphimism
for getting someone else to take tests for you
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Using google to look up "NFL suspended punch"
I cannot find an instance yet of a player being suspended for throwing punches. Can anyone think of one?
Only in college as far as I know
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by The Night Owl on Nov 29, 2010 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
Poor Courtland Finnegan
Odds are he’ll lose his job as Bud Adams’ favorite catamite after this.
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really, if Finnegan gets suspended, its a loss for the division.
he is very over rated, he knows he sucks, and the only reason he is such a cock-licking cum-dumpster is too piss off wide receivers, as much as i would love to see him out of the league, id much rather him be out there getting burnt every other play, cause watching the BESFs get beat, makes my day worth waking up for. im sure his backup isnt great, but its got to be better than him, hell, im 21, i dont work out, im skinnier than a rail, and i can probably cover better and get more tackles than Cortland.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
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Titans fans defending Finnegan...
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Cant believe some seem to consider him a “good player”…He is, at best, an effective nuisance with some store-bought truck nuts.
by doogiehowserMD on Nov 29, 2010 1:37 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Even if you were a Titans fan...
considering his Finnegan’s history and seeing as how he directly went to Johnson’s head at the snap, I don’t see how anyone could defend this guy. AJ is right that he should have kept his cool, but sometimes you have to defend yourself. Texans already have a “soft” image, and apparently Finnegan and AJ have been going at it for quite some time.
It's just funny
how so many of them point to the physicality of the previous plays and the lack of action by the refs as what was responsible for this, and completely ignore Finnegan’s history. Completely ignore it. Most recent comment on the Tennessean link a few spots up:
“This play started with a legal hit by Cortland who then had his helment ripped off (illegal),Cortand responded in kind and ripped the bullies helment and threw it down field in response to the bully. …”
Seriously, it’s fucking hilarious.
I’ve got my fingers crossed that the fight’s the spark that’s gonna drive them to win the South ;p
by doogiehowserMD on Nov 29, 2010 2:19 AM CST up reply actions
BTW, Hands to the face is not legal.
Perhaps you can rebut with that little nugget.
Blind fandom is all I got left.
Andre's week 15 stat line
12 catches for 165 yards and 2 TDs, with 4 Left hooks, 3 uppercuts, 2 overhead crosses, and 1 fatality.
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by DaGoaT on Nov 29, 2010 4:34 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
...
o/~ And a partridge shoved up Finnegan’s buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum…o/~
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by UprootedTexan on Nov 29, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
My kids were cheering the dvr replay...
GO Andre my son would yell:)
the Titans did a very oiler type thing…play the worst D evar and get shutout:)
GO TEXANS!!!!
Our time will come...
I'm late to this party, but
Damn, that was entertaining. Got a dead crowd into the game. It was a good time.
Its about time to bring this back.
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by CFHTim on Nov 29, 2010 8:19 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Look who the cat hocked up.
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Been busy trying to stay stocked up on Bleach.
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Disingenious quotes for $1000, please, Alex
Titans coach Jeff Fisher said Finnegan never threw a punch.
“It’s not good for the game, no,‘’ Fisher said. "You don’t want to see that stuff. You don’t want to see a player slug another like that. But I am pretty confused as to why they said both threw punches. Cortland said he never took a swing."
Well, in Innigan’s defense, it IS hard to punch when you’re curled up like a pill bug.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 9:09 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
You mean
a roly-poly?
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
In Smithiak we trust(ed)!
No.
Like a doodle bug.
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You guys slay me.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 9:24 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m loving this “Innigan” monicker. A hundred recs to the wordsmith.
by MadMartygan on Nov 29, 2010 9:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
^this rec'd
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by CoolBreeze3 on Nov 29, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
I don't get this shit
once his helmet was off he threw a fucking punch. Its clear as day.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Everyone who hates Innegan saw it.
Those who don’t want to see it, don’t see it. Does that help you make sense out of it?
I dub the Jets..... over-exposed
Skip Gayless
For once the Cowboys/Titans homer actually defended us on something. On first take this morning he actually backed Dre and said he shouldn’t be suspended because the ginger leprechaun deserved it. This has been the only time I haven’t wanted to hit him in the nuts…
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Nov 29, 2010 9:57 AM CST reply actions
Andre is getting mad cred in the media today
Everything I’m watching this morning indicates that the NFL community has Andre’s back on this. Nobody seems to think he should get suspended, but whether or not that has any sway in the decision remains to be seen. Either way it was a long time coming and well worth seeing imo.
As much as it would suck to lose him for a game, how awesome would it be to use this as a battle cry and beat the Eagles without him? Not likely, but after what I’ve seen in the last 24 hrs you never know.
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I'll be surprised if AJ doesn't get suspended
I don’t think he should but there’s no way the Ginger hammer lets him off without at least a 1 game suspension after throwing that many punches, and the visibility this got on a nationwide level. I wish the Commish would look at the whole game (and Innegan’s whole career) to see how many times he went to Dre’s face, the little shoves after the play is over, etc. I’m sure he will… but I don’t think AJ gets away with only a fine.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
This makes me laugh
Titans fans pointing to fact that Dre was the only one throwing punches. I’m pretty sure Finn would have tried to fight back if he wasn’t too busy getting manhandled. That fight was like a metaphor for the whole game, the texans came out swinging and the titans curled up in the fetal position and took it like a bitch.
Texas. Gods favorite country.
What I like even more...
Is the Titans’ fans who are calling Andre a pussy because he didn’t knock Finnegan unconscious. If the refs had let that fight go on for a few more seconds, there would have been some serious damage.
by Nashmeister on Nov 29, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Unrelated to Innegan....but this made me laugh yesterday at Reliant
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by papabear on Nov 29, 2010 10:21 AM CST reply actions 7 recs
McClain ACCIDENTALLY posted this:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7315649.html
Says “DO NOT POST!!!!!” on the chron’s texans page
leak
by WhiskeyR on Nov 29, 2010 11:31 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
So is this false?
Because I want to take a screenshot of it <— Insert evil grin emoticon here.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
That sounds like exactly what it is, actually.
McClain clearly wants to be the first to announce whatever happens, so he’s got one prepared in either scenario.
Of course, he’s not prepared for the real likely outcome in which Andre Johnson is lauded for his heroic actions and named president of Earthtopia; a futuristic society in which there is no war, poverty, or dropped passes.
by Nashmeister on Nov 29, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thats pretty common for most writers I believe
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Makes sense that he pre-writes the stories
and then just has to edit the details once they are known to allow faster time to post. I’d do it if I were covering stories like this awaiting an outcome.
Where’s the third version where:
Cortland Finnegan suspended for remainder of 2010 season, and Andre Johnson awarded honorary “Hurt Locker” status by SOCOM.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." ~ George S. Patton
NFL Translation: His name is Cortland Innegan, because AJ beat the "F" out of him...and the Titans lost the war!
Gone now.
But still,
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by riversmccown on Nov 29, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
damn I missed it!
Somebody paraphrase for me. I assume it had something to do about AJ getting suspended?
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Two stories
One that he got fined and not suspended the, other that he’ll miss Thursday’s game with a suspension. He was just trying to be prepared, but at first glance it LOOKED like a leak and Andre only got fined.
Guess we’ll see this afternoon. According to Adam Schefter, the league is meeting about it this morning (which is basically over)
Here ya go
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'd like to say that I am a Titans homer.
But even i can tire of Finnegan being an idiot. At least he used to back it up with decent play, but this year he’s been a pile of suck (just like our coaches, our O-line, our linebackers in pass coverage, etc.).
That being said, you guys are also being homers when you hold Andre Johnson up to a saintly standard with his role in this. He should absolutely be held just as accountable because in the end, he threw the haymakers when he was kicking Finnegan’s ass.
I know this will probably get trolled in reply, but i thought I would try a logical statement.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 11:44 AM CST reply actions
How can it be trolling??
To tell you you’re out of your freakin mind! Holding AJ to a saintly standard isn’t hard to do when he’s been owning the league since being drafted, WITHOUT ANY NEGATIVE INCIDENTS.
The only two times he’s ever been reprimanded (assuming he is for this of course) have come in response to the dirtiest CB in the league……a guy that openly prides himself for his dirty play.
Suck it Titans. Take your ass whoopin and go away
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I wish you could hold a mature and intelligent conversation.
Saying “Suck it” just doesn’t do anything for me. Oh well
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
You are correct that Dre' strayed incredibly far from his normal demeaner
and was accountable for his behavior, and even remorseful afterward. You have to understand this guy NEVER blows his cool. The entire league knows how humble and reserved he is despite huge losses, and other stress that usually cause outbursts for a common mortal. Dre’ never lets his emotions get the best of him in all previous experiences. THAT is why everyone including fans, teammates, coaches, other NFL players, NFL commentators (people like Tony Dungy, Jimmy Johnson, Shannon Sharpe, etc) all rallied to support him and disbelief that AJ could have snapped like this. It really shows how much Innegan pushed him over the edge.
Trash like Innegan, Fisher, and Cecil need to be removed from the league. That would greatly improve your team as well.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." ~ George S. Patton
NFL Translation: His name is Cortland Innegan, because AJ beat the "F" out of him...and the Titans lost the war!
by MeMongo on Nov 29, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
He clearly is not the saint that everyone thought he is.
Sure hes still a good person, but to say that his reaction is all Finnegan and that its a complete anomaly is false. He clearly has a violent side. Also calling all the team trash isn’t even right. Finnegan may be an A+ douche, but find me other dirty players before calling out the entire organization.
And don’t give me any BS over Haynesworth either, that’s long gone and so is he.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
See i wanted a debate here
And most of you can only respond with blind hate for the Titans and/or Finnegan.
If this is how you treat someone that is courteous, id hate to see how you treat trolls.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
What do you want to debate?
Like Ditka said: I wouldn’t suspend him, I would applaud him…..where does it say if a snake bites you that you can’t step on the snake."
Find me one other instance where Dre has done anything improper with any other player.
Just one. I don’t think you’ll find any.
Because Andre has only ever gotten into it with Innegan. A player who is acknowledged by his peers as one of the cheapest in the game, and who has already been warned three other times for his cheap play (iirc).
How many times has Dre been warned for cheap play?
You and August have both come in here and insinuated (or outright said) that Dre is no saint. But you have yet to corroborate this with one shred of evidence, other than the last time Innegan and Dre got into it.
So to say that “his reaction is all Finnegan[sic] and that its a complete anomaly is false” is baseless and without any supporting evidence whatsoever. Innegan is a known cheap, dirty player. Andre Johnson is not.
And, like I asked August (who hasn’t gotten around to replying yet): would you be anything other than thrilled to death to have Dre on your team?
There will be consequences for Dre and no one is denying that there should be. But take off the blinders, man.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
I came here because people are arguing that there SHOULDN't be consequences for him.
And i would absolutely be thrilled to have Andre on our team. I would also be thrilled to have Ray Lewis (murder accomplice atleast in my eyes) and Vick (terrible person) on my team. I would still dislike them as people.
Note: Not comparing Andre Johnson to either of those people. He is classier than them, but he isn’t a saint.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
How many people are arguing there should be no consequences for him?
Most are suggesting that he might not get suspended, but I think everyone agrees that he is going to get fined.
And again you say that Andre Johnson is no saint, but I am still waiting to see your evidence to this effect.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
That's Patrick Willis's job
He’s got that scheduled for next summer, iirc.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Not Tebow?
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by UprootedTexan on Nov 29, 2010 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
No, Tebow got his hands full with curing AIDS
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by The Night Owl on Nov 30, 2010 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
The simple fact that he DID get involved in the fight proves it.
Because if he truly was such a level headed, humble, all everything everyman, he would not have fought regardless of what Finnegan was doing.
And to reiterate, Finnegan is acting like trash, and playing like trash.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
c'mon man
This has been going on for YEARS. The fact that the midget was actually able to push AJ that far is pretty amazing tbh.
I don’t care who you are, unless a priest or nun, after taking years of abuse by someone it’s bound to happen. Just like a bully in the school yard….eventually he gets his teeth knocked out by someone you’d least expect to strike back.
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I find this logic specious for a couple of reasons
First, you’d be asking for AJ to just lay back and take it. In a physical sport like football, that’d be a relative death sentence. You didn’t have to live with David Carr and his known propensity to assume the fetal position at all possible times.
Secondly, and I’ll use myself as an example here, as somebody who tries to be a pacifist, if somebody attacked me? Even with my demeanor, there’s no way in hell I would be able to take it. I would fight back every time.
Honestly, we can’t expect football players to be Gandhi on the field.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
He wasn't supposed to "take it"
But he made the active decision to 1. Rip off the helmet so that he could 2. Throw punches at the unprotected head of a player. There is no excuse for that type of response.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Only if you take a myopic view of one play
This was going on ALL game.
Plus, Innigan’s first moves are punches to AJ’s facemask. Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUOoBgDiZP8
Who threw the first punch?
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Open hand != punch
Helmeted player != Helmetless player.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Again, specious argument
Completely lacks logic. Just above, you said that AJ wasn’t supposed to take it, but two hands to the face mask after the snap, AFTER telling the Texans’ bench to “Watch this,” doing anything else but fighting back would be laying back and taking it Clayton Williams style.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh
I like the Clayton Williams reference.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
B.S.
It was not a premeditated act to rip his helmet off. The very first thing that happens when two football players go at it is yanking on each other’s face masks. That’s what happened and the helmets subsequently came off in the process.
After that it was a target of opportunity. As Maverick would say…..“I saw the shot, there was no danger, so I took it.”
You act like this was a planned attack, when in reality it was a simple fist fight in response to a lot of provocation.
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by Hydroshock on Nov 29, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
That’s it? The fact that, after several plays of provocations, he was goaded by one of the league’s premier pests into retaliation means he’s no saint?
I suppose that means that Wayne Gretzgy is no saint either, because he got into about two fights in his career.
Sure, it proves he’s human, but we already knew that.
And I would point out that there were historical saints who were very violent themselves.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Joan of Arc reference FTMFW!
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Im saying that trying to dismiss this as nothing because of past history makes no sense.
It was an extremely violent way to retaliate. Which was more violent, Seymour or Andre?
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
But it's a distortion (or even strawman) to say that we are dismissing this as nothing.
Because as far as I can tell, most of us aren’t doing that. We have all acknowledged that there should and will be consequences for this. Hell, Dre actually apologized for his actions (which I would note Innegan has yet to do. Perhaps he’ll do so by text as I understand this is how they do it over there in Nashville).
A lot of us (and when I say “us” I include fans of around five or six other NFL teams and Mike Ditka) aren’t too upset about it, because of who was on the receving end.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Plus
When Rodney Harrison calls you dirty? Man, that’s saying something right there.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rodney has his own agenda entirely.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'm glad you acknowledge that Innegan is a douche
Because some guys (e.g. August) have a hard time seeing it that way, which blows my mind.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Its easier to ignore that he is a douche when he plays well, like in 2008.
But when he gets burned constantly instead, why even bother to stick up for him?
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
Believe me
I like the 2010 version of the douche better than the 2008 version.
Although I tend to think that the pass rush you guys had that year made him look better than he really was.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Well thats true of any DB, clearly.
But yes, i’m sure people care alot less that he’s dirty because he is also burned.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Shame you guys don't have a real quarterback.
We have some DBs that are so shitty that a pass rush consisting of Doleman, White, Strahan and Mario wouldn’t help them hold opposing QBs to under 300 yards.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Although, to be fair
It’s not really a shame.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well who knows if Rusty is a "real" QB
When in his first start they run it 7 times with CJ, and pass it 31 times?
It’s insane.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
We were sticking 14 in the box
Or so. Our run defense isn’t as sucky as the pass D (what could be, really), and we simply made y’all try to beat us through the air.
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I saw guys making this argument over at MCM
But once the team is down fourteen points, and the Texans are selling out to stop the run, don’t you think that they were kind of forced into passing more? Ringer got a few carries and looked decent, too.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
CJ had no carries in the 2nd quarter.
Or some insane stat like that. And even running it 40 times with CJ would have given us a better shot than Rusty. He was clearly jittery and overmatched.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
That is so sad.
Feeling overmatched by our vaunted passing defense.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
It was definitely sad.
But who can blame the kid for how he played? We were constantly at 1st or 2nd and 20, and he is some rookie from FAU
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Believe me, it would have been a lot worse for us if he led you guys on a game-winning drive with two minutes left and no timeouts.
Which, if we’re being honest, a lot of us were expecting.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
I went in thinking id be surprised if Rusty did anything other than suck.
I was hoping to be surprised. Then again, I could have called a better offensive game in Madden.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Heh
We say that here every week.
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There is also the issue that the officials had never heard the words "intentional grounding"
If they had, it might have been kept to 17-0. Which would make me feel a little better somehow.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
Finnegan is a douche and likely won't apologize.
And just because Andre happened to beat up the biggest douche, doesn’t mean it was ok. And that’s what i’ve been getting at as Texans fans have come over to express that he should not be suspended.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Ahh, but
Saying he shouldn’t be suspended is not the same thing as saying that what he did was ok or dismissing it as nothing.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Not my call
I don’t know if he’ll be suspended. I find it highly likely that context will be strongly taken into consideration, especially when Innigan was a party the first time, too. If I had to take a guess, I think it’ll be two games and a fine for Innigan and a huge fine but no suspension for AJ. If he is suspended, he’s suspended.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
ouch
Perhaps he’ll do so by text as I understand this is how they do it over there in Nashville).
Rec’d for squeezing in a VY burn!
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Rec'd
Hell, Dre actually apologized for his actions (which I would note Innegan has yet to do. Perhaps he’ll do so by text as I understand this is how they do it over there in Nashville).
/snickers gently in the corner
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Andre reacted to violence with violence.
Seymour reacted to shit-talking (most likely) with violence. Different situations, really.
I keep hearing that “Finnegan won”, though, because he got into Andre’s head. I completely disagree. Ignoring the fact that the Texans steamrolled the Titans, and that it happened when the game was already over, this sets a precedent for the next game. The league is going to be watching that match-up closely next time they play, and we’ll see just what type of player Finnegan is when he can’t get away with cheap-shots.
yeah the whole Crusades thing was pretty bloody wasn't it?
All in the name of Jesus
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Everyone has a breaking point.
At the end of a four-game losing streak and three and a half quarters of being cheap-shotted every time the refs weren’t looking, he’s not gonna take it any more.
He could have done the same to Finnegan; little cheap-shots on every play that go unnoticed. But he decided instead to settle it abruptly. It doesn’t strike me as any more or less dirty; he just did it in a way that sure as hell aught to fire up the rest of his team.
by Nashmeister on Nov 29, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
There's a difference between hoping he doesn't get suspended and saying he shouldn't be
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Who said he shouldn't face consequences?
He should absolutely be fined, and he will undoubtedly. Hell, if I had the money, I’d pick up the tab for him.
Johnson didn’t start it, he just finished it.
Finnegan started the fight because he just…can’t…play.
Not only did he start it, but it was a completely premeditated fight. Finnegan planned to do it.
I’ll say it again, this is Johnson’s “fool me once, shame on you.” Because he fell for Finnegan’s bullshit. He won’t be so lucky with “fool me twice, shame on me.”
If he does start up again, then the Texans need to resign Frank Okam. He won’t see a down of playing time, but if Finnegan starts up again, then we just send Frank out to KTFO of Finnegan and sit on his head for the rest of the game.
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by UprootedTexan on Nov 29, 2010 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
you're right
He’s such a terrible person. We should all publicly condemn Andre for ever resulting to violence, even after being constantly provoked for years. What he did was unforgivable, and I personally think Goodell should set a harsh example by banning him from ever playing in the NFL again. Furthermore, I think he should lose all of his national and local endorsement deals to further emphasize the severity of this issue.
Nah, on second thought…….fuck off
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OK
Let’s chill out with the personal attacks/fuck off stuff.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
meh
Just another example of a Titan pushing buttons and getting an uncharacteristic response from a Texan.
point made
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Thank you
We can have a conversation without the insults.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Haynesworth, Vandenbosch, and plenty of other Titans have had the dirty Rep in the past
It’s been that way for most of Fisher’s tenure, and it’s not just Texans fans that feel that way. Dre obviouysly shouldn’t have thrown haymakers. I’m sure he will be punished. Finnegan was taking little cheap shots all day. Hands to the face/throat when he went to jam all day(like what finally set everything off). I was there and watched it all day and was screaming for the refs to do something after seeing AJ get yanked by the facemask way more than just incidental. Shoves after the whistle. Hell there were even reports that he was taunting AJ’s family when he got off the team bus before the game. He said “watch this” before the play the fight broke out on. What was intention? I have no idea, but it sure looks like he was trying to start something.
AJ’s had two issues in the NFL. Both of them involved Finnegan. Finnegan has already had three other incidents in just this season with MANY more through his whole career. It’s not so much that Dre wasn’t in the wrong for reacting the way he did, but that so many other players and fanbases outside of Tenn. know that Finnegan deserved everything he got and more. If past record is factored in then it’s impossible to make an argument that Dre doesn’t have the better record.
The Titans celebrated and taunted the fans while being down 17-0 because they managed to get rid of our best player while Fisher delayed the game five minutes because of his whining that they didn’t do anything wrong.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Give me specific instances of Vandenbosch and these "plenty of others"
And Haynesworth wasn’t exactly rewarded by Fisher after that, infact he is off the team now.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Did you see his comments after he left the Titans?
About how he was constantly in Fisher’s doghouse? He played because it was best for the team, but he wasn’t prized by any means, considering the fact that the Titans wouldn’t pay him when he was up.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
I don't want to get in the whole Jeff Fisher meta-context here
Because I know you guys are chewing that one over at MCM, but is it possible that a guy like Fat Albert perceives that he is in someone’s doghouse when he may not actually be there? A lot of these guys have persecution complexes (which I thought was weird, considering they’re all rich as hell).
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
I don't believe so. VY and Fisher's issues were well known before this whole incident.
And since Fat Al was a lazy fatso anyway, it’s a sure bet that he was truly in the doghouse. Especially seeing as how he went right into Shanahan’s doghouse as well.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
no I didn't see his comments
Because I don’t keep up with dirty players. He was in Fisher’s doghouse because he’s lazy and malcontent, on top of being dirty, which he proved when he moved to Washington.
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They along with finny
where voted as some of the dirtiest players in the NFL by their peers. Its a simple fact.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
There's tons of stories that insinuate dirty play by KVB
Accusations of twisting ankles of players with a known ankle injury at the bottom of the pile vs the jets. Accusations of trying to taking out QB’s knees. I found one story where Gus Ferrote accused him of purposely trying to spear him in the junk. None of them are conclusive proof that he’s dirty, and I only really remember a couple of iffy shots at Schaub’s knees personally (which I’m probably biased on). I also seem to remember him threatening to “take out” Joel Dreesen. I think you would find outside of Tenn. KVB’s rep often had the dirty rep. Tenn. in general has that reputation. This was from 2009, but three Titans made the list for the top 15 dirtiest players in the league based on votes from actual NFL players. Whether it’s true/fair or not, the Titans rep in general is that they are a dirty team and has been for years.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/11/04/dirty/index.html
Just to be fair…plenty of teams complain about our O-Line, and specifically Winston (Winston and KVB were good for 3-4 shoving matches a game). Most of that relates to the fact that we cut blcok, which is completely legal, but understandably hated by all D-lineman. We’ve been called for a few illegal chop blocks since we started running the zone….but not enough IMO to show a pattern that they are being coached that way.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Let's talk about the head coach then
and his appetite for this crap. He was laughing at Rodney Harrison after the Titans destroyed his knee.
You won’t win any debates trying to paste this situation on AJ. Finnegan is a dirt bag who aspires to be known as such, and wants to be voted the cheapest player in the NFL by his peers. He has the wrong concept of professional athletics and should be banned from the NFL. Stop trying to shift any of his bad attitude and bad behavior on AJ. The good guy had enough of the bad guy’s cheap shots and mouth, and he shit stomped the bad guy into the ground. Get over it and GTFO if you can’t take the truth.
Feel free to stick around if you want to trade entertainment posts or common sense discussions, but stop trying to turn the story the other way when everyone except “dool cups” from Methopotamia know the truth about who these two players are and what happened.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." ~ George S. Patton
NFL Translation: His name is Cortland Innegan, because AJ beat the "F" out of him...and the Titans lost the war!
How is you being ok with Andre beating up Finnegan because he is dirty any different than Fisher laughing at Harrison who was also a known dirty player?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Coaches are supposed to lead and manage the personnel
and as such are held to a higher standard.
He sets the example, and if that example is “dirty play” acceptance, then it permeates and festers through the team. Cecil is also historically one of the dirtiest players who ever walked an NFL field. Fisher came from the coaching tree of Buddy Ryan who not only promoted cheap shots, he even hit one of his own coaches (Kevin Gilbride).
Innegan would probably be a dirty player no matter where he landed, but he happens to fester on a team where the coaches have a history and appetite for applauding such behavior. I was at the game and saw Fisher cheer (fists in the air, jumping up off the ground) and then patting Innegan on the head and back afterward.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." ~ George S. Patton
NFL Translation: His name is Cortland Innegan, because AJ beat the "F" out of him...and the Titans lost the war!
He cheered because one of your best players was ejected.
As i am SURE that Kubiak would love to see CJ ejected (on any other day where our run blocking doesnt suck)
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Kubes values character. A lot. Maybe too much.
So if a Texans player intentionally provoked CJ into getting ejected, you can be sure that Kubes would not take it lightly.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
He sure took the fight lightly, so i'm not so sure.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure.
Kubes is notoriously tight-lipped in press conferences (frustratingly so, imo) and we do know that AJ was contrite immediately after the game.
So Kubes may well have left it that, or may have had words with AJ. We’ll never know.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Kubiak rarely shows any emotion on the sidelines...or in press conferences
That’s a pointless argument anyway. That didn’t happen. What did happen was Fish cheering, acting like Finnegan did nothing wrong, not getting his ejected player off the field immediately, and hold up the game running out onto the field to bark at the refs.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Held accountable? Sure, with fines.
I still cannot find a single instance of a player getting suspended for punching another player.
Its going to be hilarious when Finnegan gets suspended because of his prior warnings and all Andre has to do is pay a fine that goes to charity, which he can just take out of his enormous charity budget that he already contributes from.
Question:
Did you find any other cases of players punching each other several times without helmets?
I’d never seen anything like that, to be honest.
by Nashmeister on Nov 29, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty much everyone else (fans of other teams, media, etc)
is applauding Andre for giving Finnegan what was long overdue. It’s not like Battle Red Blog is an isolated case.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Andre has never been involved in any fights outside of ones with Finnegan
I think that says it all.
And of course people here are going to be biased, what did you expect? Why would you even post this unless you were trolling for the troll you wanted?
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by riversmccown on Nov 29, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
I just assumed that since i could overcome my homerism and say that Finnegan is an ass, then maybe ya'll could too.
I was clearly mistaken. And to think i was trolling after all i’ve done is debate is laughable.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Use facts in your response
Not some false moral equivalence. Because there is no equivalence on any level between AJ and Innegan. As a player, as an athlete, as a person, Andre Johnson is superior.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Show me where i said they were equal.
Use facts in your response too.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
You said
He should absolutely be held just as accountable because in the end, he threw the haymakers when he was kicking Finnegan’s ass.
That’s moral equivalence.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
So saying that he should be held just as accountable for the fight they BOTH PARTICIPATED IN means they are equal morally?
What a leap.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
Well.
Moral equivalence does not mean that they are both equal morally as human beings per se. It can also mean that discrete actions both men undertook are viewed as morally equal. Which it seems to me that you are doing when you suggest that they should both be held equally accountable.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Why shouldn't they be equally accountable for the fight?
Sure Finnegan instigated, but Johnson went far beyond what any NFL fight has ever gotten to. I don’t see why there should be disparity in punishment.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Because of their respective histories
If I were the Texans, I would present as evidence the following:
-Andre Johnson has never had any problems with any other player in the league
-Innegan had been putting hands on Dre’s face for several plays before the fight – confirmed by game footage
-Innegan has already had three warnings by the league this year
-Innegan’s peers consider him a cheap player
-Dre is a model citizen and was clearly provoked
-Dre understood immediately that what he did was wrong and owned up to it; Innegan has not
If I’m the BESFs, here’s what I say:
-Dre hit Innegan several times.
-Dre ripped Innegan’s facemask off and kinda pushed him in the back once on a running play
-Innegan isn’t bad, he’s just misunderstood (or something along those lines)
Then the league will decide. Personally I (and many other people here) wouldn’t be surprised if he gets suspended or not.
But if you look at the history and the player’s respective records, Dre comes out looking a lot cleaner.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
The incident in question is more violent than any other fight has been.
Punches at an unprotected head of a player. If this was a normal fight, then i would agree with you about Johnson’s lack of fighting history. But this went above and beyond the norm of retaliation.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
I think that's an exaggeration
We can delimit it all we want by saying it wasn’t in a regular season game, but I think this falls far short of, say, stepping on a helmetless guy’s head, even if that was in preseason.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Also
I would argue that what Seymour did to Rapelisberger was far worse. It was provoked, yes, but it was also a true cheap shot.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 29, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
And one other thing.
There is evidence that it was Innegan’s intent to get Dre kicked out. I can’t underscore how important that is. If this is true, then the league is more likely to be lenient with Dre, imo.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Do you realize
that a person striking another person in the head with their hands has just committed the application and use of “deadly force”, which according to the law, provides for the victim to respond in kind with deadly force including the use of a firearm?
Innegan’s lucky AJ realized he was in an NFL game and not standing 300 yards over on Kirby Drive with a pistol in his hand. He’s also luck he only got fisted three times instead of taking a few kicks to the face as well.
He struck AJ in the face several times in the game and on the play in question, and AJ applied responsive force to stop the persistent attack and end the encounter.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." ~ George S. Patton
NFL Translation: His name is Cortland Innegan, because AJ beat the "F" out of him...and the Titans lost the war!
So Andre
Being smart enough to hit a guy’s head instead of the helmet makes him bad – how?
Hoping weird stuff really does only come in 3's
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 29, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
So if a bad guy comes up to me and tries to assault me
and he’s got a criminal record going back years and I have NO criminal record and am considered a very good person by standards of measurement by all who know me, and I successfully end the encounter by use of force (again after he already assaulted me with illegal use of force with a blow to the head), I would be as bad as him?
The little punk finally pushed someone to the breaking point and got what he had coming for years. It came uncharacteristically from a “nice guy” in the sport. The end! Nothing more to see here, everyone knows the truth about both player’s history and what went down.
Please go troll somewhere else.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." ~ George S. Patton
NFL Translation: His name is Cortland Innegan, because AJ beat the "F" out of him...and the Titans lost the war!
I am far from trolling just because i have a dissenting voice.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Agree
Thank you. Seriously. Sorry if that SOUNDED like sarcasm.
:-)
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Yeah
If this is trolling, it’s really bad trolling.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 29, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
You have been trying to shift the blame
from a known scumbag to a known good guy in a forum where the core subject supports the fans of the team the known good guy plays.
Nobody is saying AJ is innocent. Innegan needs to be disciplined on a far greater level for his consistent issues with this very behavior. AJ needs to be disciplined as a first time offender.
Feel better now? Done stirring the hornets or do you have more to say in your effort to defame a future hall of famer for something he did out of character thanks to a scumbag who’s coaches and the game’s officials failed to manage better?
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." ~ George S. Patton
NFL Translation: His name is Cortland Innegan, because AJ beat the "F" out of him...and the Titans lost the war!
by MeMongo on Nov 29, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
very well said, MeMongo
I keep thinking of Kenny Rogers song “Coward of County”
I promised you, Dad
Not to do the things you’ve done
I walk away from trouble when I can
Now please don’t think I’m weak
I didn’t turn the other cheek
Papa, I sure hope you understand
Sometimes you gotta fight
When you’re a man
I just keep remembering that part . While most people don’t condone violence. Sometimes you do have to stand up for yourself because no one else will. I see it as Andre had to stand up for himself b/c the little thug, Finnegan, was just constantly badgering him with this garbage.
by BattleRedFan on Nov 29, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for truth
You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB
by Texans-Brocos on Nov 29, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Right, so you came in here to "debate" and wound up being disappointed that nobody took your side
On a Texans blog. Where everyone hates FInnegan. With nothing to back up AJ not being a Saint asides from how he went after Finnegan the year before when Finnegan is clearly an instigator and a thug.
What is the aim of that? You’re just trying to save us all from our sinful pro-Andre ways with this worldly view of the situation?
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by riversmccown on Nov 29, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Not what i was saying. But feel free to post more funny pictures.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Mike Ditka chimes in on Andre
on the Herd……
“I wouldn’t suspend him, I would applaud him…..where does it say if a snake bites you that you can’t step on the snake.”
“I admire him. I applaud him.”
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by Hydroshock on Nov 29, 2010 11:57 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
ESPN: First Take
“After waiting all game for the refs to step in and do something about it, sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands, and I think that’s exactly what you saw happen here.”
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands
So what you’re saying…Andre Johnson is a vigilante. And therefore, Andre Johnson is Batman.
"Lord, beer me strength."
No, Andre is Superman
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by The Night Owl on Nov 29, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
My opinion
I think both players should be suspened for the rematch since all of AJ’s unsaintly incidents can be isolted to this one defender. you get equal punishment since Innegan has a history and AJ took it too far. If my child did this sort of thing i would accept his punishment from the school but when we left the school i would take him for ice cream because he stood up for himself. That is what we are doing here we are giving AJ some love for doing what he SHOULD have done.
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I've actually heard that thrown about
Suspend both players for the rematch.
If they were to get suspended…I think that makes sense.
"Lord, beer me strength."
If they are going to suspend them both (which I think happens) that makes the most sense
It will probably help serve as a reminder to both sides to keep things cool in the rematch as well.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
I have no problem with that
as long as it’s not against the Eagles this Thurs
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Sweet Justice!
Sounds like the NFL approached this based on history, character, and premeditated intent.
That’s why we have “grand jury” process in the courts for self defense incidents involving the use of force (including deadly force). Review the situation, mitigating circumstances, and body of work (history) concerning all facts and actors involved.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." ~ George S. Patton
NFL Translation: His name is Cortland Innegan, because AJ beat the "F" out of him...and the Titans lost the war!
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by UprootedTexan on Nov 29, 2010 7:07 PM CST up reply actions
Well, nice talking to those of you that are rational.
Clearly, Goodell didn’t listen to me! Best of luck the rest of the way (excluding our rematch)
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2010 1:35 PM CST reply actions
As far as I'm concerned...
thanks for joining in. You’re definitely welcome back. And bring mcnair2vy along. I’m not ashamed to say I miss her.
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Cuz your a looser....
You are banned from Stampede Blue.
You can browse the blog, but you can't participate.
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I think I love her
Her grasp of the English language, witty insights…I…I think I need a moment.
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Good luck to you as well
I actually thought the Titans looked to be tops in the AFC this year early on (I thought it would be Titans vs Jets in AFC championship), but lots of issues to sort out for Tenn now it seems. It’s frustrating when there’s that much going on in the locker room and you guys have been through a lot over the years.
I may not agree with you on this incident or how much AJ should suffer for it, but I do welcome future engagements with you. No hard feelings, and I hope you guys get the team and excitement you expect as NFL fans.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." ~ George S. Patton
NFL Translation: His name is Cortland Innegan, because AJ beat the "F" out of him...and the Titans lost the war!
No way!
This entire thing – from the ass whooping, to the idiotic Titans fans, to the show of support from everyone everywhere with an opinion on the NFL that sided with us – has been JUST. FUCKING. AWESOME.
This has made my whole week. I didn’t even mind working on a Monday after a long weekend.
Only if we can joke about tight ends again.
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