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Post-Game Thread: Chargers 29, Texans 23 -- Questionable Calls And Kareem Jackson Deep Balls

"Knock knock?"
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"Dee."
"Dee who?"
"Defense ain't gonna stop anyone."
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It's almost hard to write a Texans recap these days because effectively half of the game is irrelevant. This is what we've become used to. Kareem Jackson allowed two deep touchdowns and was not benched or reprimanded in any way, he's learning though. Or at least I think that's the reason you've anchored one of the best offenses in the league down to mediocrity. Bernard Pollard, Zac Diles, and your usual cast of bad pass coverage culminated in letting backup Chargers tight end Randy McMichael catch two touchdowns and sixth string WR Seyi Ajirotutu become a fantasy waiver wire darling. At this point, it almost doesn't matter whether the scheme or the players are more at fault: it's time to take Antonio Smith, Mario Williams, Brian Cushing, and Glover Quin aside and let the wrecking ball strike this thing down. Every opponent's possession against the Texans that ends in 0 points is met by surprise by the fanbase. Every last one.

Now, to the part of the game that was actually in question:

Gary Kubiak, perhaps having figured out that maybe Arian Foster was a great running back after all, rode his hoss in the first half to 20 points and a 6 point halftime lead. It could've been more if not for the silly Calvin Johnson rule robbing Foster of a touchdown catch. 

Kubiak then apparently forgot that Arian Foster was on the field for the bulk of the second half. The Chargers started stacking the box a little more, but it seemed like every bad carry was an excuse to go right back to the pass game. This combination led to Foster getting just six carries on the last four Texans drives. 

As much as people were calling for it tn the game thread, the combination of me biting my tongue and me getting the fourth quarter thread up led me to not say anything about the fourth and one call to lead off the fourth quarter. The Texans were winning by two, and a field goal would've had the Texans in field goals length after the Chargers scored the touchdown that we all knew was coming. Instead, the Texans were forced to drive the length of the field in the final two drives. They were barely in the red zone, but Kubiak opted to go for it. A good play call, mind you, but one that ultimately ended up costing the Texans.

That, combined with the curious at best decision to use Derrick Ward on 3rd & 2 on the San Diego 5, Matt Schaub's impromptu decision to quick QB sneak on 4th & 1 (didn't we have a good running back for that?) and the ridiculous intentional grounding call, put the Texans behind the eight ball. Andre Johnson's kicked interception was a heartbreaker, but it was one that the Texans could have easily avoided with better game planning.

Nevertheless, your Houston Texans are back to .500, there are still games to play in the season, and while a playoff run is certainly looking more and more unlikely every week, you can't completely rule anything out with 8 weeks to go in the season.

Except for the Texans defense being good. You can definitely forget about that.

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the texans. just. lose. games.

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by Kiratomi on Nov 7, 2010 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

leach was a monster, foster and leach

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by Kiratomi on Nov 7, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

the o-line did good

for a really big chunk of the game.

and, I guess, Casey?

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

And Dreessen

Really, the O as a whole. Some of the play-calling, and the dick on the TD, hurt.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

ya

although Dreessen had a couple of bad drops, iirc.

But the no-TD on Foster’s reception GAH.

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

That rule sucks.

BUT Foster should have known the rule and at least tried to shield the ball or fall on his side or get his other hand on the ball. It’s his fault.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

true

I think thats a reasonable thing to chalk up to being a rookie, particularly given the stupidity and non-intuitiveness of the rule. Next time he tries to roll over and land on his back in that situation.

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Foster's not a rookie.

But your point is still taken.

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by Synchysi on Nov 7, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I, uh,

have my own classification system where you count as a rookie until you have played in 16 games.

/must learn to stop saying dumb things.

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

No.

Foster is a professional. It’s his job to run the football. As a professional, it’s also his job to know the fucking rules of the game, especially after the whole football-loving world saw Megatron get victimized by this rule in week one.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

true

But there is a difference between “knowing the rules of the game” and “actually making the split-second move in accordance with those rules the first time that situation ever comes up.” The former Foster needs to know. The latter comes with experience.

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he ever had possession.

Sorry, but you won’t find me bitching about this call. It looked like it was bobbling when it was in his arm, then it slid down his fore-arm and he couldn’t control it. Perhaps this isn’t the logic that they overturned it on, but I don’t think it was a catch.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw that play differently

I saw Foster catch it just outside the goal line with both feet down, then cross the plane with possession. Should have been a TD at that very point. Doesn’t matter now, though.

by BigTexBD on Nov 7, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Next year

It’s a TD.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure hope so

Although we’ll still see some refs butcher the interpretation of it, I’m sure.

by BigTexBD on Nov 7, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Season is over

draft prep begins in earnest Tuesday morning

by Biggity B on Nov 7, 2010 3:05 PM CST reply actions  

Why Prep

When you can overdraft?

by JimboTexan on Nov 7, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Why AJ? Why?

Of all people it had to be Johnson .

by Silentjay on Nov 7, 2010 3:05 PM CST reply actions  

Don't blame him

He was on his way to making a good catch. Ball just hit his knee as it was coming forward. Blame that one on Schaub’s shitty throw.

by LedTexan on Nov 7, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a pass a pro WR catches 99 out of 100 times.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a catch Andre makes if he's 100%

which he’s not

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by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

what?

AJ ankle is hurt not his hands.. he shoulda caught that ball if both his legs were amputated

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by HB23 on Nov 8, 2010 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I watched it in slow mo....

and you can see AJ kinda cringed when he landed on the bum ankle, which broke his concentration and threw his body mechanics out of synch. That reception went from pulling it in to his chest to trying to keep from dropping it and instead hit his knee.

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by txknight on Nov 9, 2010 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

You can't run the ball on the 25 with 90 seconds left

And one timeout.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

there was nothing i saw that said Foster would not make a play

and we could have killed more time to save our Defense

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by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

yes you can

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Nov 7, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

you can also

call HB pass plays, but it doesn’t mean you should

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

so your saying the player who was the best on field today

shouldn’t get the ball at the end of the game? that was enough time for foster to do something

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by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

he can get the ball

just like he did get it when the Texans went shotgun. As a pass. But ya, I’m definitely saying you should almost never run it in that situation, particularly given the success Foster had running the ball in the 2nd half.

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

they were having trouble stopping the run

and that would have wasted more time giving them less time to score on our defense

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by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

ahh

joe bringin it today ;)

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by HB23 on Nov 8, 2010 8:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Personally...

I don’t think AJ is too shabby.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

You can

Run the ball in the second half…

by JimboTexan on Nov 7, 2010 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't be too mad at Dre

But to say that any part of that interception was on Schaub is ridiculous.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess we just disagree then

Andre had to reach out to catch the ball around or below his waist level AND he was trying to keep from falling down. Had Schaub put the ball up higher or into his chest it’s a catch.

Speaking of this, whatever happened to reverse camera angle? This INT and the catch in the KC game both had the shittiest angles I’ve seen.

by LedTexan on Nov 7, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

For some reason

I expect the best receiver in the game to be able to make that catch. Call me crazy.

But yeah, I totally agree about the reverse angle. I noticed the same thing in the KC game. Maybe it’s the Reliant camera set up?

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't wanna beat this to death

But he had the ball. He was trying to keep from falling down and kneed the ball out of his hands. Freakish play.

by LedTexan on Nov 7, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree it was a freakish play

And Andre Johnson has won us so many more games than he’s lost us. And more need not be said.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree

Aside from the sneak, which was likely Schaub’s call, I thought the late playcalling was fine.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Then maybe i just dont understand the reasoning behind a hurry up offense with 5 minutes remaining and 3 time outs left.

by Amivy on Nov 7, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Specifically, what plays did you not like?

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I just didn't understand the philosphy of the hurry up @ the 5 minute mark in general.

Which in turn made the 4 and 1 call hurried up as well.

We’ve got arguably the best back in football, yet on 4th and 1 we don’t even entertain the idea giving him the ball.

by Amivy on Nov 7, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Personally

I’d like to know who made that call. It looked like Schaub to me. That was truly horrible.

But, we are also very effective in the hurry-up offense, and we were moving the ball well.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

true

but the best case scenario in running that offense with so much time on the clock is that we score early. then what? we put the best offense in football vs. the worst defense in football on the field with plenty of time and all they need is a fieldgoal to win.

by Amivy on Nov 7, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

But you really can't control that

You take yards as you get them. If it works out? Great.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

i guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

because i certainly don’t want our fate decided by our defense. i’d rather our offense never let them back on the field.

by Amivy on Nov 7, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

That would have been perfect

Since Kris Brown is their kicker.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I dunno

what happened the last time they gave Arian the ball on 4th and short?

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

IMO

Schaub is a much better qb in the hurry up than in the rest of the game. I wouldn’t mind if we went hurry up every down.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Not just bush

Kubes stopped using Arian, Schuab throws was off all game. Bush tho is the one that has to be fired, shit sucks just to bad

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by Antho10000 on Nov 7, 2010 3:06 PM CST reply actions  

Kubiak: dead man walking

It’s time to replace Kubiak. That’ll take Bush with him.

by danger man on Nov 7, 2010 3:06 PM CST reply actions  

They Played a good game

First time Texans lost playing well

I am not saying the D didn’t suck – but we were in the game the whole time

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 7, 2010 3:06 PM CST reply actions  

Amazing how low your standards get, innit?

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

PR is the second coming of Manning.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 7, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Every qb that plays the Texans is the second coming of Manning.

Fixed.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 8, 2010 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Incorrect

Tim Tebow will be the second coming of John Elway when the Broncos play us

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by The Night Owl on Nov 8, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess it could be worse

Arian Foster played awesome. and at least we didn’t lose by 20 points to the Browns.

And you know, this is very faint praise, but the defense got a stop when we needed it. Of course, if they were competent we wouldn’t be in such a vulnerable position, but still.

by cubic on Nov 7, 2010 3:06 PM CST reply actions  

cause we didnt play the browns...

we would have…

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by Kiratomi on Nov 7, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

That'll

be the last time I fucking lose sleep to watch a team coached by Gary Kubiak for the rest of my current deployment.

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by AFTexan on Nov 7, 2010 3:07 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Coulda scored more RZ TDs....

Coulda slowed down and ran more in the 4th quarter…..

Defenders can’t tackle, receivers can’t catch……..

All the mistakes, there was still a chance.

4-4 for the first half. Up and down, erratic. Record wise, it’s not over, but damn…..I’m not getting my hopes up anymore. Not at all. Second straight week of coulda, woulda, shoulda.

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by TexansDC on Nov 7, 2010 3:08 PM CST reply actions  

In addition to firing Bush

can we lock Wilson in a room and give him the Clockwork Orange treatment, forcing him to watch his shitty play over and over again until the thought of playing football makes him cripplingly ill and he retires. Please?

by cubic on Nov 7, 2010 3:09 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

^^ This

I’ve never seen such horrible safety play as I have this season…all season.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Eugene Wilson is this year's Chris Brown.

The man who somehow manages to get opportunity after opportunity to cost us games.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Why we were in a hurry-up with 5 minutes to go?

We could’ve run Foster and the clock down to zero instead of starting to throw it and run the hurry-up

by Horns09 on Nov 7, 2010 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

Ummmm

Kubes stopped Arian, not SD.

by TXinCA on Nov 7, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

They made some adjustments and we couldn’t counter them.

Like that’s never happened before.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

and ciached.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

^^^ This too.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

you sure?

That was a pretty bad third down call just now.

by cubic on Nov 7, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

ya i saw that

Dammit Lions making me look bad

by Draco on Nov 7, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I really want them to win

rooting for the Texans has made me sympathetic to bad teams. And I have them winning in pick em

by cubic on Nov 7, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

^^^ This.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not a fan.

Even my girlfriend who has no interest in sports and isn’t even from Texas knows Kubiak by name because I’m always harping on how much incant stand him as a coach. And I hate how the Houston Chronicle and homers keep sniffing his undies.

by Holy Germ on Nov 7, 2010 3:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Terrible last minute play call for Lions

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 7, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

November swon

It's Our Time.... or something...

by bennprince on Nov 7, 2010 3:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Im sorry

but anyone who is blaming anything other than the defense and some poor officiating at the end of the game didn’t watch the same game I did. The play calling was fine, this loss lays mainly at a ridiculously bad defense.

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by DaGoaT on Nov 7, 2010 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

Agree

And astoundingly poor officiating (yet again!) didn’t help. But I think we got a bit lucky as well, such as on the no-call when Smith hit Rivers in the ankles.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Still blaming the defense?

Not gonna blame the 2 red zone FGs? Or the terrible execution on the 2 4th down plays? Or the game-ending INT AFTER the D forced the 3 and out?

The defense wasn’t the main reason for a loss. There’s blame for all.

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by TexansDC on Nov 7, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

you shouldnt

have to score TDs every series to win a game. 24 points is enough if your defense isnt fucking terrible.

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by DaGoaT on Nov 7, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

when you defense

has never given up less than 24 points in 8 games, thats worse.

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by DaGoaT on Nov 7, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

And yet...

the offense ended the game with the losing INT.

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by TexansDC on Nov 7, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

C'mon dude

That’s not fair. That was a total freak play, and probably a brain fart by Dre. But you can’t blame the offense as a whole for that. I hate to get into what ifs, but if Dre catches that ball, our chances of winning are around 75%.

I’d rather blame Foster for not at least trying to possess the ball at the end of the first half than Dre.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

You I still think...

…that Foster had completed a “football move” after catching that ball… He took a full step with the ball under control and on the second step put the ball down to steady himself… at which point it came out. But by that time he was in the endzone and had made the extra step after catching it.

But I’ll betcha’ next time he just falls down with the ball.

by DilloTex on Nov 7, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

You say this after every loss

But the offense put up a good amount of yards and points against one of the top defensive units in the NFL. The fact that people are saying the defense didn’t cost us the game despite the numerous missed tackles and blown assignments simply because they forced the Chargers to punt 2-3 times doesn’t change the fact that our defense sucks donkey balls.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I never said the defense was good

but the offense skates by time and time again when they’re just as deserving of blame.

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by TexansDC on Nov 7, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Except they're not.

The offense isn’t perfect, but it’s one of the best in the league. The problem is that our offense has to be perfect, or near perfect, in order for us to win because our defense is so unbelievably shitty.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

The offense is ninth in the league in scoring, by the way.

One of the best (nine) in the league.

They have their moments, but they score less than Detroit, Tennessee, and Oakland, and they haven’t even played the strong defenses on their schedule.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Those last two comparisons aren't fair ones, though.

Tennessee actually has a good defense, and Oakland two huge-scoring games, one against the terrid Broncos D where they were a point away from hitting 60 points.

The Lions are comparable to the Texans though. Shaub and Stafford, Andre and Calvin, crappy Texans D and crappy Lions D. (except for Mario and Suh)

by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 7, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

And our ppg are inflated by having a bad defense.

Last week, the Dallas game, and the NYG game, we didn’t deserve the meager points we got. We just kicked it into gear for a drive or two each game and took advantage of a prevent defense in garbage-time.

Point is, it goes both ways. And where’s our huge scoring game? When you run the ball like, get a free seven on a blocked punt, and get two short fields on turnovers, you’d damn sure better be able to score more than 23 at home.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

They forced the Chargers to punt a few times..

They also handed us seven points to start the game with the blocked punt, and another short field on the pick.

Yea, they gave up a lot of points (thanks, Kareem), but you’re not going to beat the Chargers scoring just 23 points. At home, no less. No excuse for those red-zone failings.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Kubiak has to go!

Maybe the Longhorns can buy him from the Texans! McNair needs to get his head out his a@#! Foster touches the ball 4 times second half, bull!@#$

by rotorhead73 on Nov 7, 2010 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

I want Kubes gone.

I’ve wanted him gone since last season. His playcalling is atrocious. Foster could have easily had 150+ yards rushing this game and last game.

That intentional grounding penalty was complete bull shit, but because Phillip Rivers simply threw his arms up in the air, the refs throw the flag. The NFL has turned into the NBA, listening to the stars bitching for fouls or penalties.

Only positive in this game besides Foster is Leach. He deserves to go to the pro bowl this year. He’s done a hell of a job leading the way for Foster.

I could care less if we don’t make the playoffs this year, I just want Kubes and his entire staff(minus Rick Dennison) gone.

We need to get Leslie Frazier from the Vikings before Childress is fired. Lets hope Wilf doesn’t fire Childress until the off-season, so we can have a stab at hiring Frazier.

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by bone31crusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:13 PM CST reply actions  

Frazier's a crap coordinator

And Kubes isn’t calling plays. Dennison is.

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by TexansDC on Nov 7, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Huh?

Offensive play-calling was one of the only things keeping us in this game.

Blame drops (Jacoby and Foster could have both had TDs). Blame horrible QB play. But the offensive play-calling was great, aside from the QB-sneak at the end. And the way it looked to me, that was Schaub’s decision. I’ll be interested to hear the break-down on that awful play.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

You kno i think we are missing things like a FS, etc

But i think we have the talent in place to make a run to the playoffs. But wit the way this team plays and lose, im convinced its the coachin staff that has to go.

You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.

by Antho10000 on Nov 7, 2010 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

Need to go 7-1......

to have any shot of making the playoffs. Looking at our schedule and the way we’ve played the last few weeks, I don’t see that happening. Hello 8-8….or will it be 7-9!?

by TXinCA on Nov 7, 2010 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

Whatever gets Kubiak fired,

I’m all for it.

Hell, I would rather us tank so we could get a high pick and get rid of Kubes.

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by bone31crusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Weren't we doing that before we drafted Mario

Since we wanted Bush or VY?

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd...

But it just shows how out of touch I am with the rest of the "fan"base that it even needed to be said.

by DilloTex on Nov 7, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

i say best we do is 3 and 5

win against JAX at home, beat Philly (maybe), and beat Denver so 7-9 sounds like a good prediction

by Biggity B on Nov 7, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

what is it with this loser mentality in houston. not only that but the fing bleeders on all the teams. i wish they would just die sometimes.

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by jahunter221 on Nov 7, 2010 3:15 PM CST reply actions  

Hooray!

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

36 hours bitch

dont even say this week, that makes it seem further away.

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by Kiratomi on Nov 7, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

YES! Tuesday!!!

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by MeMongo on Nov 7, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

So next week

The Dead Coach Walking Bowl?

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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 7, 2010 3:16 PM CST reply actions  

Pretty much

Which coach wants to lose more? Find out next week!

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

We should have a contest

To see if anyone can come up with more new and unusual ways to drag defeat from the jaws of victory.

Because until today I’d thought I’d seen them all.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

MJD throws the GW touchdown on a half back pass?

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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 7, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Too soon?

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Book it.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Time to clean out the entire front office
  • Rick Smith for somehow rating Kareem Jackson better than anyone.
  • Kubiak for giving Kareem Jackson the starting position without earning it.
  • Frank Bush for playing Kareem Jackson.
  • Rick Smith for not doing anything to improve our secondary…and…pash rush
  • Kubiak for getting Richard Smith selected GM and for Frank Bush being his first choice for D-ccord.
  • Frank Bush for designing potentially the worst defense in NFL history.

The entire front office for making me give up on this season after 8 games. Once again,

by danger man on Nov 7, 2010 3:16 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

as usual

completely unrealistic fan responses. Guess I’ll come back on saturday when you guys are done slitting your wrists. o/

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by DaGoaT on Nov 7, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

only you could be happy with this loss

You expect others to be pleased as you are? Enjoy your self-flagellation bliss…

I dub the Chargers.....Cromartieless, Merrimanless, Tomlinsonless....WHO ARE THESE GUYS?

by Rip Jersey on Nov 7, 2010 3:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Don't blame Jackson so much dude.

He got beat badly twice by an undrafted WR, but CB is the hardest position to go from College to the NFL. He has shown positive signs. He did a great job in reading Rivers when he got the INT. He is going to get beat a lot this year. It’s good that he makes his mistakes now. Give him 2 more years before you call him a bust.

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by bone31crusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'ed

The roster is full of talent. The coaching staff hasn’t taken advantage of it.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

What?

CB. FS. SS. DT. DT. WLB.

Are we watching different teams? Because I’m not seeing any talent at the above positions.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

The onus is on Rick Smith to draft the best players available.

Don’t draft a a tight-end to play left tackle just because an angry little man who the game has probably passed by wants small linemen.

Don’t draft a CB who lacks speed just because he’s supposedly good in zone coverage.

Don’t draft a DT who can’t get to the QB and needs twelve years to develop to play underneath.

This is why you need an independent GM; not a guy who just follows orders from the coaches.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

“Don’t draft a a tight-end to play left tackle just because an angry little man who the game has probably passed by wants small linemen.”

hahahaha

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Watch what you wish for....

we could wind up with a Millenesque GM who drafts best on the board no matter HOW poorly they fit into the scheme….or what he thinks is best on the board.

No thank you, I’ll take a GM who listens to his coaches at draft time….this then comes back on Gary Kubiak and Frank Bush.

And how is the VY experiment going in tits land…..who was drafted because the owner said so….not because the coach wanted him or saw anything in him.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Nov 9, 2010 7:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Your argument has merit

As, you know, I’ve often bitched about those position. Still, it does not discount what we have, and we have a young team with a lot of talent. We need help on the D – jeez, everything you listed is D – but it doesn’t discount the current talent.

Where I believe we fail is our ability to develop talent.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't discount that talent...

But it’s nearly impossible to patch together a defense with that many holes. Especially when the talent we do have is wildly inconsistent and/or easily schemed out of the game. And with Cushing in a position change/roid-hangover, and Mario only showing up every other game, there aren’t any game-changers on this defense. Hell, if I had to give a defensive MVP at the moment, it would probably go to Glover Quin.

I do agree though, we’re bad at developing players. I hoped Barwin would be the one to break that trend, but it looks like we’ll have to wait a year on that.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

What can I say?

I just can’t argue. We do, we should!, have game-changers with Mario, Cap’n, and Cushing. Even Smith. I’m just sitting here shaking my head. I don’t know, Nash. I don’t. Scheme, development, and coaching all come to mind.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Mario seems to be going backwards

I want Kollar out out out out out.

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 7, 2010 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if some of Mario.....

seeming to disappear for half the game isn’t due to coaching as well…..thus Mario venting his frustrations at Kollar during that game.

Don’t know, just a random thought I had while riding to or from work one day.

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Nov 9, 2010 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Coaching....

as in scheme calling for him to not go balls to the wall after the qb for whatever reason idiot Bush sees….or thinks he sees.

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Nov 9, 2010 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

How do we explain going from a top five defense over the last 13 last year....

To dead last this year….

WITH THE SAME PLAYERS (minus Dunat)?!?!

This front seven has gone from good to almost worthless in terms of sacks and pressure.

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by TexansForever on Nov 8, 2010 6:15 AM CST up reply actions  

How do you explain it?

Easy. BFD was preaching about it all summer….the schedule was easy last year. It was smoke and mirrors.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Nov 8, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I think thats a big part of it

but Pollard and Wilson have played much worse then they did last year, which is making things much worse.

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 8, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Two words

game film

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by Hydroshock on Nov 8, 2010 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Our mediocrity is self-inflicted.

by JimboTexan on Nov 7, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Rick has done a good job. Clear out the coaching staff is the better thing to do. The only person I’d keep on the coaching staff is Dennison. I think he’s done a great job this year for the most part.

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by bone31crusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't agree on Dennison

But I’m willing to cut him a teeny bit of slack because he’s learning as he goes along. And while I’m in with the Fire Kubiak crowd, I would be somewhat happy to keep him as long as our defensive coordinator isn’t a festering sore of a coach.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Jackson is playing the best of all the rookie CBs

It’s a tough position to play well in as a rookie. If we had a halfway competent FS and better scheming, he’d be looking pretty good right now. As it stands, the scheme and personnel around him just expose his weaknesses. Any rookie would play like shit in this situation. And so would Dunta, for that matter.

by cubic on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Jackson

would definitely look better with a better FS.

But why in the world do you think he is the best of the rookie CBs?

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

name one whos doing better?

Kyle Wilson isn’t even the nickel corner for NY

by Draco on Nov 7, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm definitely not saying

I know one is better, because I don’t really give too much of a shit about teams other than the Texans. But I’d be pretty surprised if Jackson is having the best season of any rookie CB.

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right, I was overstating my case there

but I think most rookies would be playing even worse in Kareem’s spot. Maybe Joe Haden would be looking okay.

by cubic on Nov 7, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

McCourty looks great

I wanted him Most of all CBs in the Draft last April

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by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

only recently

he was having a bad season until about 3 weeks ago when Bodden went in IR

by Draco on Nov 7, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Haden's looked a bit worse than KJ...

not Kyle Wilson bad, but KJ has been better than Haden.

Verner’s probably the best rookie CB then McCourty…..then the rest.

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by TexansDC on Nov 7, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Kyle Wilson

is always the best.

But srsly, I didn’t know Haden had been doing worse than KJ.

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Haden's picked it up a bit over the past 3 weeks, but

I wouldn’t say Haden’s better. Interchangeable really.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Nov 7, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Hence his gripe with Rick Smith.

CB is a very hard position to immediately come in and play at a high level at. So why on earth do you lay your playoff hopes in a make-or-break season in the hands of a rookie CB with no safety help and no pass rush?

Headasplode.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

silver lining

hey guys cheep up the rockets play tonight…………….(crickets)………………………(shotgun blast!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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by jahunter221 on Nov 7, 2010 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

Whats worse

losing the way the Texans did today or missing 2 free throws to ice the game on the road?

by Biggity B on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Well....

There is also the Aeros… Who are one of the worst in the AHL
Cougers… Who went down hill fast after loosing Both QBs
Dynamo… Who was 7 of 8 teams in the West
Astros… Who had a loosing season again
UT… Who… yea…

Hmmm….

by Silentjay on Nov 7, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Baylor?

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Baylor

Has made me obscenely happy this season.

by JimboTexan on Nov 7, 2010 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

#23 Texas A&M?

Aggie Basketball starting up?

by TSSaloic on Nov 7, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

There's always TCU

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Oddly enough

i’m still fairly optimistic about the rockets.

by Ivan A on Nov 7, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh boy

How good did we feel after week 1?

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by RocketsAstros on Nov 7, 2010 3:19 PM CST reply actions  

lol

good one. we should have known better. as we speak the bob mcnair we don’t know is in the shower with kubiak doing things that sane men dont want to think about.

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by jahunter221 on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Meh

We’re Texans fans. We knew this was coming.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

the best

i love this blog so much more than that homer garbage rockets fan site. i can speak my mind and all the little gay lovers are’nt here to get mad.

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by jahunter221 on Nov 7, 2010 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

i am officially on the Kubiak sucks as a head coach bandwagon

I didn’t say Fire Kubiak Bandwagon. I said Kubiak sucks. He wants to keep games close, so this is what you get. It comes down to a 50-50 proposition. Today, the coin flipped tails. Kubiak plays for .500 again. Don’t blame it on the players. It is all Kubiak.

Am I preaching to an empty assembly hall?

Kubiak has his long-term contract. Thank you very much! We are stuck with him. What a nice guy.. He deserves it, because he is such a nice man. We are privileged to have such a nice man coach our football team! Thank goodness!

Mr. McNair, you have a wonderful man for your coach. How could you ever contemplate firing him? Don’t you want to have perpetual .500 team? We all love .500! Its a nice number.

It wouldn’t be nice to win more than your share, would it?

Coach Kubiak, you suck!

I dub the Chargers.....Cromartieless, Merrimanless, Tomlinsonless....WHO ARE THESE GUYS?

by Rip Jersey on Nov 7, 2010 3:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

i mean.......

seriously. its already been almost 5 years. thats not enough time?

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by jahunter221 on Nov 7, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate to agree

but I have to. He has never once in 5 years gone for the kill, he lets teams hang around until the end and its a coin flip whether or not we win

by Draco on Nov 7, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Move Over

I think I’d like to jump on board.

by Ivan A on Nov 7, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't blame it on the players?

So I should blame Kubiak for Eugene Wilson and Kareem Jackson flailing once or twice per game and allowing a ten-yard completion to go for fifty yards? Or biting on every single play-fake or double-move and allowing deep TDs?

Among other things, we’re very short on football IQ in the secondary.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Play Action Passes

 Why the hell didn’t the Texans use more play action passing when they were running the ball well? Also Schaub has proven to be pretty good on roll out passes and boot legs. I feel the offense should have done more of that

by Gary Devon Linger on Nov 7, 2010 3:23 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah seems the bootlegs they used so much last year for success aren’t being called as much. At least I haven’t noticed.

by Holy Germ on Nov 7, 2010 3:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I think we should fire

Bob McNair.

This has all gone on TOO LONG.

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:24 PM CST reply actions  

Lol

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I like Bob

He gives the Coaches enough rope…

which is being used to hang themselves by.

by Ivan A on Nov 7, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'ed

Because, you know, it really couldn’t hurt to fire him again. Just because.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

OHHH I like this...

Hire Casserly on a one-day contract and let him think it’s because we want to honor him, and AS SOON as he signs the contract… announce that he’s been fired for retro-active douchebaggery…

by DilloTex on Nov 7, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'd keep him on board for the next draft, to be honest.

I have more faith in him than I do Rick Smith at this point.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

With all due respect,

this is probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.

Heh

Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.

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by Autra on Nov 7, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Is it?

Amobi Okoye, Jacoby Jones, Fred Bennett, Brandon Harrison, Brandon Frye, Kasey Studdard, Zac Diles, Duane Brown, Antwaun Molden, Steve Slaton, Xavier Adibi, Frank Okam, Dominique Barber, Alex Brink.

That’s his first two drafts, which have had ample time to give us some indication.

Just awful.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Cmon, Nash

There aren’t many black holes there.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

and even JJ is looking like total crap now. Walters is not looking great either, but that makes me wonder how much of it is the receivers and how much is Schaub throwing such shit (high, behind, low).

This team needs better coaches and a better GM.

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by MeMongo on Nov 7, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

the problem is

that Kubes coddles his players. he’s got his faves. Walters runs a go route at 80% and starts whining for a flag. Schaub throws an uncatchable ball out of bounds in the pocket, and bitches about the intentional grounding call. We need a coach with intensity. It will rub off on the players.

Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.

by swikky on Nov 7, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Which I why I keep throwing Herm Edwards' name out there

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think it was 80%

Sadly, I think it was 100%.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

The intentional grounding call....

was a bullshit call.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Nov 9, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Manning throws that.....

and it gets a PI call because obviously the defensive player must have interfered with the TE for him to not be in the place paytun threw it.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Nov 9, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

OOOOOkay...

…that explains a lot to me…
/backs slowly away so’s not to get any on me…

by DilloTex on Nov 7, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

We either go...

7-9 or 6-10 this season. We will lose to the Jets, Ravens, Titans (twice), Eagles and the Jags once.

That is the best I see us doing, but it could be worse.

by Jahon on Nov 7, 2010 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

yea, we could be the Panthers

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by Kiratomi on Nov 7, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

But it could be worse

Is that the new slogan for The Texans?

by Ivan A on Nov 7, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

New?

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess.

Our passing game is inconsistent. Our defense is unbelievable horrible. Play calling and overall coaching is trash. The only thing we have at the moment is a good running game this is used every now and then.

by Jahon on Nov 7, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Schaub

is a rhythm QB. Now that we got a run game going its hard for him to establish that rhythm.

by Ivan A on Nov 7, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't it odd

That we have a top notch run game and Schaub is the most sacked QB in the league?

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Tasker is having ogasms talking about Sanchez

"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 7, 2010 3:26 PM CST reply actions  

Tasker has orgasms about anyone who ISN'T the Texans.

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by texanslady on Nov 8, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

since most think that the playoffs might just be out of reach

what should the Texans draft? FS? DT? TE? WR? TE?

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by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 3:27 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah

theres a player named Deunta Williams,FS, who has been drafted to the Texans in mocks.

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by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Won't happen

This team doesn’t draft FS in the first 4 rounds. I wouldn’t expect it to change…especially when they could legitmately value a DT, OLB (fuck Zac Diles), and MLB (Since DeMeco may not be ready for week one) ahead of a FS.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Nov 7, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

It was

but with all the injuries to the LB corps this season (similar to the TE position last season), I can see the bolstering the depth in the draft.

And the pass rush needs help too. We keep bringing in tons of DTs and DEs…..

I just think the FO values th front seven more than the DBs.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Nov 7, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

it does seem that way

Also we are going to need a back u qb soon, as neither Dan-o or Lienart seem to be doing much

by Draco on Nov 7, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Well i think FS is most important and should be a pick in the second or third round

but DT should our first pick and draftinga DE in a later round would be best since we only bring in Barwin on passing downs

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by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

i am worried about Demeco

since someone put up that article that his career might be over, LB should also be priority.

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by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

We have to go safety first

You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.

by Antho10000 on Nov 7, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats what everyone says but our pass rush sucks, and im thinkin it would still suck regardless.

You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.

by Antho10000 on Nov 7, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I still say....

even a big NT/DT ain’t gonna help allot against 1step and no step passes. The D-line is still coming out of their stance and the ball is out of the qb’s hands.

Is this starting to become the pattern across the whole league or just when a team plays the Texans because we give the receiver’s a 10 to 15yd cushion?

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Nov 9, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

There is a DT named Nick Fairley out of Auburn

6’5 300LB’s remeber the Texans don’t draft Big NT’s

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by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Nick is the player i see us drafting

Not many FSs worth being First round picks except Rahim Moore who hasn’t been the Ball hawk he was last year

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by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Too many good teams in the AFC

we are last in our division with 7 teams ahead of us for 6 spots

by Biggity B on Nov 7, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Tied with Jacksonville who we play twice,

And who knows what happened last year my happen again, it’s too early to call for the draft.

by TSSaloic on Nov 7, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Id say the same if we played differently this year

but we are awful inside our division under Kubiak plus we have BAL, NYJ, the Tits twice WITH Randy Moss, plus Philly

by Biggity B on Nov 7, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

We've always been bad in AFC South, ever before Kubiak

But we usually do well against Jacksonville. Titans are scary, but who knows what will happen. Philly looks interesting, nice to get a steal there. I think we could take the Jets and Ravens.

by TSSaloic on Nov 7, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

are you high on crack?

Or have you mistakenly been watching another team you think is the Texans? Since when are the Texans good against Jville? Going on the road to beat NY or Philly? Seriously? These are things that you are considering as a possibility? Please pass me some of what you are drinking/smoking bc the beer and whiskey just makes me more angry.

Yes...as a matter of fact, that IS a pic of Steve McNair & Sahel Kazemi parasailing. Suck it, Titans fans.

by -Jay on Nov 8, 2010 4:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

If we win more than 2 or 3 games at this point I will be VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY surprised.

This is not a playoff caliber team.

Right now, this is PROBABLY not even a .500 team come year end.

EPIC COLLAPSE.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Nov 8, 2010 6:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Scratch That....not an epic collapse....

EPIC MIRED IN MEDIOCRITY!

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Nov 8, 2010 6:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, an Epic Collapse

is what is taking place up in Dallas. It’s fun to watch and barely takes the sting out of our situation here.

This is Epic Mediocrity with just enough fail and just enough luck to sidestep into another “golly gee wiz” off season. Followed by another “WHO?” draft pick. Followed by another preseason of willful hype and hope. Followed by another season of Epic Mediocrity.

Reminder: COD Black Ops 11.09.2010

by MeMongo on Nov 8, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Now you are just being stupid

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 8, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

DT/DE, FS, WR, LB - In that order

Some mocks would have us taking another CB, but I do not think we need another rookie CB though it is such a deep CB draft (Patrick Peterson (once in a decade elite CB), Prince Amakumura (elite CB), Janoris Jenkins (elite CB), Ras-I Dowling (great CB), and Aaron Williams (great CB.) I feel that the CB issue needs to be addressed via trade or FA signing and we need to pick up a veteran CB. Asking Kareem Jackson to be your starter and be a shutdown corner is a lot to ask for a rookie CB. The DE in this year’s draft will also be very deep so I could see us picking up another DE if we are going by best talent available. Hopefully, we can pick up a DT/DE hybrid such as Nick Fairly of Auburn. That way, if Connor Barwin comes back healthy, we can switch the DT/DE hybrid to the DT position. As in safety, there is not a safety that merits a first round pick this year, even Rahim Moore is pushing it a bit. I believe that should be addressed in the 2nd round. As for third round, I would say a WR, though we could very well look for depth at the LB position. I don’t think Jacoby Jones’ is working out. He’s explosive but he has to learn to actually catch the ball first in order to be explosive.

by Tony Ung on Nov 7, 2010 11:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Im not giving up on Kareem he just a rookie

FS is the the biggest need i think the Texans have but not many good option for a FS in the First, so i think DT and Nick Fairley might be the guy at 6’5 300lb’s but Von Miller is cool with me if he can play weak side LB

living the Texas dream

by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Besides Foster

Who really stepped up when they needed to?

"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 7, 2010 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

Leach, opening the way for Foster

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

True.

That goes for the O-line as well. Run-blocking was beautiful at times. Pass protection was nearly flawless; they were picking up blitzes all day long. Which begs the question: why was Schaub so awful?

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

“Which begs the question”

No, no it doesn’t.

/pet peeve
//philosophy nerd

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Because we're only allowed to have one part of the offense work right per game

If Schaub is playing well, Foster doesn’t get touches. If Foster does well, Schaub’s passes will be off

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I will give you Leach

He stepped up

O line played well – but I wouldn’t say stepped up

"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 7, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

Eh. They paved the way for a great rushing performance, and the only times Schaub got touched was when he held onto the ball for too long. No penalties either, if I recall correctly. Couldn’t have asked for a cleaner performance, really.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

THOR

"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli

by texanslady on Nov 8, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Eugene Wilson

wait

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Nov 8, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

You would think though

at some point a team would just get tired of finding ways to lose. We seem to embrace it though and shrug it off as “Oh we would have won if…..(insert any number of excuses) would have happened.” When does the team get tired of being average!?

by TXinCA on Nov 7, 2010 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

We're only on 432

on the Kubiaks 1001 ways to lose winable football games… With special notes from Bush.

by Ivan A on Nov 7, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Ideas for torturing/eliminating Frank Bush:

1:

Lock him in a small room.

Tie him up to a chair.

Blind fold him.

Play Miley Cyrus for 8 straight hours on big speakers.

2:

Tie him to a chair.

Keep him awake by either shining a bright light or by shaking him throughout the night.

3:

Make him stand for 10-12 hours straight.

4:

On a hot, sunny day, make Frank stand on hot concrete for hours.

5:

After all of these techniques, we eliminate him.

We tie ropes to his legs and arms, and four cars rip him apart.

This is very twisted and sick, but I really really hate Frank Bush.

"You got to believe in yourself. Hell, I believe I'm the best-looking guy in the world and I might be right."- Charles Barkley

by bone31crusher on Nov 7, 2010 3:31 PM CST reply actions  

I'd like to tie him to an EMT neck brace and body immobilization plate

and then force him to suck a fart out of my ass
let him suffer for about ten minutes
then fire him
then tie him to a log…..air lift it to Niagra Falls, dump him over and wish him luck

Reminder: COD Black Ops 11.09.2010

by MeMongo on Nov 7, 2010 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like a plan.

Rec’d.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
www.battleredblog.com

by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 8, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Some Lining

Still have 4 games in AFC South (Titans do scare me though), 1 game in NFC East, and the other three in the AFC, Plenty of time, and chances to beat up on some wild card opponents, and the division.

by TSSaloic on Nov 7, 2010 3:31 PM CST reply actions  

Titans will CRUSH us. We will be lucky to split with Jacksonville.

This team needs to make a change. The D is not going to get better and the offense just isn’t reliable right now.

This team has NO consistency.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Nov 8, 2010 6:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice real write-up

Besides Foster – what player really stepped up? Some played well, but I cannot say anyone really stepped up.

"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 7, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

With his limited action

I agree

"I want you guys to pair up in groups of three and then line up in a circle." - Bill Peterson former Oilers Coach

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 7, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Leach

every time Foster steps up, Leach opens the holes for him

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW....

Did Mario Williams play today!!?? Just sayin’. Oh, I forgot he came in the first half for 1/2 a sack.

by TXinCA on Nov 7, 2010 3:36 PM CST reply actions  

Another thing bothering

is Slaton still getting a paycheck?

by Ivan A on Nov 7, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

You guys need to fix your pass D immediately.

I mean you’re sharing the league with PManning, and now Randy Moss.

by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 7, 2010 3:52 PM CST reply actions  

Don't worry about us.

Worry about your team, the BESFs.

"You got to believe in yourself. Hell, I believe I'm the best-looking guy in the world and I might be right."- Charles Barkley

by bone31crusher on Nov 7, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I couldn't agree with this MORE:
Every opponent’s possession against the Texans that ends in 0 points is met by surprise by the fanbase. Every last one.

by WhiskeyR on Nov 7, 2010 3:54 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

well

“Kubiak then apparently forgot that Arian Foster was on the field for the bulk of the second half ….This combination led to Foster getting just six carries on the last four Texans drives.”

This is kinda misleading. The last two Texans drives were hurry up, and included two passes to Foster. On the two drives before that you had a rush for three yards, a rush for four yards, a rush for no gain, a rush for no gain and a turnover on downs, and a rush for -2 yards, which isn’t exactly going to move the ball.

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

It mighta been

hasty to go hurry up with 5 minutes left in a close game, sure. But on the other drives, Foster’s lack of success was a big part of why the drives ended so abruptly (and hence a lack of plays in general, much less a lack of Foster-rushes). In any case, a game where Foster gets almost 30 carries seems like a weird one to repeat the “KUBIAK IS A MORAN, HE MUST USE FOSTER MORE” thing.

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean, maybe Foster should have gotten the ball more.

WTF do I know. But he didn’t have nearly the success in the 2nd half as he did in the first, and at the end of the game the Texans decided to go shotgun (where they did, in fact, pass to Foster) because they were losing. I hardly think that counts as “forgetting about Arian Foster.”

by killtacular on Nov 7, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair, I've never been great at the quick write-up.

But still, he should not have been that anonymous after that first half.

by riversmccown on Nov 7, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I declared the game a loss when

they didn’t score after Kareem’s pick. That could have closed it out. Instead it kept SD alive.

Our defense is beyond atrocious. I hates it. I hates it so much.

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Nov 7, 2010 3:57 PM CST reply actions  

Texans have peaked under Kubiak.

he is a .500 coach.

Time for a change.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Nov 7, 2010 4:06 PM CST reply actions  

No no no. We are going to "work with what we have" and fix it "in-house".

F U KUBIAK.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Nov 7, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha

Peitan comes back and takes the lead over Philly. Nothing new to see here, move along please.

"I was laughing at you" - Jayson Werth explains to Brett Myers why he got picked off 2nd base on an intentional walk.

by RocketsAstros on Nov 7, 2010 5:18 PM CST reply actions  

AFC South

So the best we can hope for is for everyone in the division to shit the bed too

by wkittinger on Nov 7, 2010 6:02 PM CST reply actions  

Colts are doing a good job of that right now

but sadly its looking like the BE-SFs are going to win the division. They are going to crush us because they have a pass rush plus Chris Johnson and Randy Moss.

by Biggity B on Nov 7, 2010 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Fixed.

hey are going to crush us because they have a pass rush plus Chris Johnson and Randy Moss 53 human beings with a pulse.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Fixed-fixed...

they are going to crush us because they have a pass rush plus Chris Johnson and Randy Moss 53 human beings with a pulse 53 orange traffic cones to play against us.

by DilloTex on Nov 7, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Hope?

I’d hide that before people see it and beat it to death.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Nov 7, 2010 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I would like to make a brief statement to the Texans coaching staff.

And to the defensive unit as a whole.

That is all.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!

by UprootedTexan on Nov 7, 2010 6:31 PM CST reply actions  

Dont forget...

Rick, Dunta, Charlie…and why not Dom Capers too.

by Battle Dread on Nov 7, 2010 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Capers?

You mean the Dom Capers that’s coaching up one of the best Defenses in the league? Go to NBC and see what I’m talking about… Maybe not suited for a head coaching position, but he has a great defensive mind for sure.

Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.

by swikky on Nov 7, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

and why didn’t he do that while he was here?

by Battle Dread on Nov 7, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

The defense was decent at first, but the front office made a bunch of bone headed defensive draft picks

That, and him not being able to run an offense got him fired

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Then again, Capers is the guy who got the Panthers to the NFC Championship in their second year of existence

So I put the blame mostly on the front office

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I still say

fuck him and anyone in the past, present and future that results in negativity in the Texans growth. Its a moot point anyways, just venting.

by Battle Dread on Nov 7, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Too late for that

We don’t have the personnel for a 3-4 defense & the ones we have probably won’t convert well into it. Mario ain’t a 3-4 OLB. Barwin could be an OLB in a 3-4, but then you end up wasting more time teaching him a new system. We have no one who could be any good on a 3-4 D-Line outside of Antonio Smith.

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 8, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

On the bright side...

At least we got to watch an exciting four quarters of football for the first time all season. We lost to a team with a better QB, O-line, D-line, and secondary. No amount of coaching was going to outweigh that. Pretty much the only person we had today who played like the best at his position was Arian Foster, and as Barry Sanders learned, that ain’t always good enough to win. I thought the game was pretty well-coached, and the better team won. And unfortunately, our 12th-man advantage is about as good as playing on a neutral field.

That’s probably the season. But g’damn… I can’t say enough about Arian Foster. That was one of the best performances I’ve ever seen by a RB. He squeezed every possible yard out of that game today. He bailed Schaub out on 3rd-down dump-offs seemingly more times than I could count.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 6:33 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Arian Foster is a beast

I think the SD defense played their scheme pretty well for most of the game. They didn’t tackle well enough in the first half and Foster made so many people miss, it almost made me feel bad for all the opposing fans over the years that LT (in his prime) must have frustrated in the same way. I think LT (of old) didn’t get enough respect (if that’s possible) because he never looked like he was moving very much, unlike a Barry Sanders who was effective, but sort of all over the place. LT didn’t have any wasted motion at all and he always took the right angle.
I think Foster is a little more of a glider than a hard cutter, like LT was. But damn, no one could put a finger on Foster and we were in the holes most of the game. Every move he made was the right one. I was very impressed with the way he ran Sunday.

by SDreal on Nov 8, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

With the Colts losing

The Texans missed a grand chance to move back up in the standing. The season life is fading fast.

You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.

by Antho10000 on Nov 7, 2010 6:51 PM CST reply actions  

Or

The Texans are still alive even despite their crap win, if you want to actually look at it on the bright side.

by riversmccown on Nov 7, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Alive in the same sense that a torture victim is still alive.

At some point, his captor is going to finish it, but for now, there is still some pain, agony and despair to squeeze out of him.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Nov 8, 2010 6:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm glad I spent the day at the Browns football game.

My number one team the Texans may have a better record than the Browns, but I’m having a far worse time rooting for them than I am “The Feel Good Story Of The Year”, the Browns. The Browns are showing some serious spirit out there, and McCoy is playing far better than I ever expected for his first season. And Hillis is the most frightening man in the NFL, I don’t think I’ve ever seen the dude fall backwards on a tackle.

It sure would be nice if Holmgren would coach the Texans…

by Calvinball on Nov 7, 2010 7:11 PM CST reply actions  

My son's man-crush on McCoy is scary

Especially after his TD scramble.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sorry

But this team is not going 6-2 in the second half of the season as difficult as thier schedule is. If Demeco and Barwin were’nt out for the season I might give them a glimmer of hope. But as a realist the Texans are looking more like Bob Hope……………with no hope. Here is to the 19th pick in the draft and FS Rahim Moore.

Reverend Pimp Daddy

by jahunter221 on Nov 7, 2010 7:17 PM CST reply actions  

Peterson's going in the top 7.

He’s the best CB in the nation.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Nov 7, 2010 10:55 PM CST up reply actions  

as an LSU fan I can say with complete confidence

That yes he is and he is the complete package. HE can stop the run, play man and zone and he rarely gets beat.

by Draco on Nov 7, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

ya he did

but Peterson wasn’t covering him all day, on the TD he allowed Jones to get inside and it was a good throw. Jones is an NFL caliber receiver and Peterson is an NFL caliber corner he shut him down completely last year in Bama and the Odds are Jones was going to have a better game this year. He is still the best corner in college football and will immediately help any team.

by Draco on Nov 8, 2010 8:18 AM CST up reply actions  

what about Prince Amukamara?

Janoris Jenkins? Aaron Williams? all good options but will the Texans draft another Cb in the First i doubt it

living the Texas dream

by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't want a new one i still like Kareem

unless the one they draft can play FS then is cool

living the Texas dream

by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, you need at least 3 starter-quality CBs nowadays.

A first round CB isn’t an indictment of Kareem, but rather speaks to the lack of skill in the secondary.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Nov 8, 2010 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Peterson is going top 3

Too good of a player to pass on. Strong, shutdown corner who can open field tackel and take down huge WR’s/RB’s. Just an amazing talent.

by Tony Ung on Nov 7, 2010 11:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard that Rahim was leaning towards staying in school

but i see Deunta Williams going to the Texans in mocks

living the Texas dream

by Joe25 on Nov 7, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

From Wikipedia:

“Miller was named the District 8-5A Defensive Most Valuable Player after making 76 tackles, including six sacks and 14 tackles for loss of yardage (TFL), as a senior at DeSoto High School. As a junior, Miller had 37 tackles, seven sacks, 14 TFLs and 12 quarterback hurries. He was rated No. 29 in Texas by Rivals.com (No. 15 weakside linebacker in the nation)”

by TSSaloic on Nov 7, 2010 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Defense was bad

but Matt Schaub has looked pretty poor the last couple of games. Passes too high, passes too low, passes behind the receiver when he’s running full stride…. what happened to 2009 Matt Schaub??? There are so many times I’ve seen him on a boot be in a position to run for a couple yards and slide; he’s much more content to throw it out of bounds or throw something uncatchable. His pocket awareness looks off too; he looks scared in the pocket, not stepping into his thows when the blitz is on. That interception was only partially AJ’s fault. If that ball had been thrown at chest height, it would have never hit his knee.

Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.

by swikky on Nov 7, 2010 7:56 PM CST reply actions  

Last couple games?

I’d say… Well, just about the entire season, with the exception of a half against Washington, and a half against KC.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

that game against KC

I was there. And it was the most awesome game I’ve ever witnessed live. Matt Schaub needs to play like that at every snap. But you know, there were times in that game too that Schaub’s pocket folded open and he had opportunities to pick up 5 yards w/ his legs but chose not to. Aaron Rodgers is a perfect example of how you punish the DE’s for running up the field.

Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.

by swikky on Nov 7, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

we heard about this a lot in the offseason however all of these great ideas that actually work seem to get forgotten once the season starts.

It's Our Time.... or something...

by bennprince on Nov 7, 2010 8:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Greenbay 28

Dallas 0. Dallas fail lol

by fgp on Nov 7, 2010 8:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

why

is Dennison not calling at least one screen pass per game? it makes no sense to anyone outside of the Kirby braintrust.

It's Our Time.... or something...

by bennprince on Nov 7, 2010 8:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

San Diego's 3 4 Defense

plays the screen really well. Also, with Andre hurt, blocking on the outside is difficult. You think Jacoby could handle Jammer? OD is out as well. While Dreissen and Casey looked good, I don’t know if they’ve got the timing down for the screen yet…

Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.

by swikky on Nov 7, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

There were 2

And I agree with swikky: it’s a tough team to screen against.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Then why did that screen to Foster seem to work so damn well?

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Hurry up

Plus, they blitzed. And, you know, Foster is pretty much a badass.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Then they need to run it more, maybe actually use Slaton on it for once

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Ward for screens

Foster on the zone read, and Slaton… well, Slaton to make sure that the water bottles stay full.

Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.

by swikky on Nov 7, 2010 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

But if you only run screens with Slaton...

…it’s easy to pick up.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

if thats the only reason he's in

than the play is an easy read for the defense

Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.

by swikky on Nov 7, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

well...

wheel routes, play action pass, draws, toss, fake screens…. is that better? :)

Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.

by swikky on Nov 7, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

and yet he doesn't even get used for that

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't get it

Slaton looked better in the run game, and then we completely stopped using him. Its nuts.

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 7, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

huh?

wtf are you talking about? look at Foster’s numbers. just look at them. They’re sick. If he had had 20 + carries last week, he’d be leading the league. Right now, he’s second in yardage. The only thing holding him back is Kubiak.

Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.

by swikky on Nov 7, 2010 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Foster is amazing, but Kubiak won't give him more then 30 carries a game

and with good reason. We need a 2nd back to pick up the load, and not letting slaton get any carries and instead giving them to ward is becoming a detriment to this offense.

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 7, 2010 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree SS has been looking better as a runner as of late

he seems more confident and his quickness is an asset. I know most on here don’t think he can still be useful but he had a possible career threatening injury last year.

by Draco on Nov 7, 2010 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I really hate to say it,

but it seems the Texans have proven to us once again that they are merely a mediocre team. I’m not gonna recant the whole game and it’s low-lights again, that has already been done. I am simply saying, we have been bamboozled yet again. I’m not giving up on them, playoffs are not impossible, improbable maybe, impossible no, still a bunch of football left to be played.

by Battle Dread on Nov 7, 2010 9:11 PM CST reply actions  

I agree

We get a few amazing plays from our handful of stars per game (Foster, Johnson), a couple of decent plays called at the right time, but mostly these are wedged between miserable clock management, horrible momentum killing changes to plays (pass instead of run when run is what got you there), and a completely ABSENT defense.

We are average at best. But hey, there’s always next year. Houston fans favorite theme….

Reminder: COD Black Ops 11.09.2010

by MeMongo on Nov 7, 2010 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Ward instead of Foster

Kills me. Kills me dead.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Just bad times for him, I think.

I get wanting to work him in. Foster was on pace for too many carries if they were going to keep running it in the 4th. But they needed to get him involved earlier on 1st-down situations, not in a crucial 3rd-and-2. Our short-yardage running plays aren’t smash mouth; they require quickness.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

zone read

works great when the linebackers are unsure of the call. Our linemen aren’t built for isolation blocking. They simply aren’t physical enough. They’re quick though, which works great for the zone read. When Ward bumps it outside, he usually picks up big chunks (KC 39 yrd TD run). So, if Ward is in, run a toss, or HB draw.

Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.

by swikky on Nov 7, 2010 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Dunno.

Not that long ago we were all amazed at how that guy managed to outrun people who were twice as fast as him en route to the endzone. I don’t necessarily blame Kubes/Dennison for that. He worked out pretty well in the past.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 8, 2010 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Average

Our record the past 3 seasons including this one is 21-20. About as average as it can get.

"I was laughing at you" - Jayson Werth explains to Brett Myers why he got picked off 2nd base on an intentional walk.

by RocketsAstros on Nov 8, 2010 2:17 AM CST up reply actions  

On the bright side, it could be much worse

We could be the Cowboys

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2010 10:42 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Cowboys are on route to a high draft pick and a spiffy new coach.

And really the only reason they are terrible is because their coaching is perhaps the worst in the league. They have solid talent, and it’s only going to get better next year. We have a questionable (Kubiak) to downright terrible (Bush) coaching staff that probably won’t see much change after the season, and will likely have middle of the pack draft picks.

While I have to admit that I’m a huge pessimist, it looks to me like the Cowboys have a lot more to look forward to long term. Though we can for now at least delight in the fact that they’ll come nowhere close to being the first team to play the super bowl in their own stadium.

by Calvinball on Nov 8, 2010 12:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I still like Kubiak as a head coach in a lot of ways

I know I’m fairly alone in that. If I had any belief that he would hire a competent d coordinator I would like to see him back next year.

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 7, 2010 10:59 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

you're not alone

I like him and I think the players like him and if he would open his eyes and go out and hire a good D coordinator we could be a contender instead of a spoiler. With Marvin Lewis and Lovie Smith both likely getting fired at seasons end we should bring in both guys as possible replacements for Bush.

by Draco on Nov 7, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

yes also a great Dcoordinator

plus he coached Peppers, who Mario is close to in terms of talent and psychical body style. Alos Wade Phillips anyone? He is not a head coach but he is a good Coordinator

by Draco on Nov 7, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

3-4

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 8, 2010 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I know everyone wants to point to green bay and say they are a good example of it working

but I’ll go ahead and point to the bills and remind you it isn’t always that easy

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 8, 2010 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

ya the Redskins are in the process of transitioning to a 3-4

with mixed results, they give up a ton of yards but lead the league in T.O.‘s. I forgot about Phillips running the 3-4 but I’m with rivers right now our 4-3 “aggressive” D isn’t working at all so maybe a 3-4 would be a better idea for the future. LZ stated that he believes we are only a few players away from a successful 3-4

by Draco on Nov 8, 2010 8:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I've been on the "must be a 4-3 guy," side of this.

And long-term, absolutely, I think that we should be biased towards that.

But right now, with how fucking awful this defense is, I don’t care what scheme they run. Just something different. Please.

by riversmccown on Nov 8, 2010 5:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I mean really...

…at this point it’s rebuild a 3-4 OR rebuild a 4-3…

by DilloTex on Nov 8, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I like Fox...

Defensive minded guy….extensive history as a DB Coach…..prefers the 4-3…..aggressive, puts a lot of onus on a strong front 4 with a fat run clogger. I think he’d be a perfect fit for the defense.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Nov 8, 2010 1:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Even though I'm on the Fire Kubes bandwagon

I could live with him staying and us bringing in a strong defensive coordinator who managed to make this defense even as much as average.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 8, 2010 12:26 AM CST up reply actions  

If we did that we would be a playoff team

I want to believe the humiliation that has been our defense this year is enough to open kubes eyes to the fact he has no idea about d

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 8, 2010 1:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I like Kubes: The Offensive Mind

Kubes: The Whole Package is hard to deal with unchecked, sadly.

by riversmccown on Nov 8, 2010 5:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Nope... not alone...

…but I’ve got to confess, I’m getting tired of the crappy defense.

by DilloTex on Nov 8, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Defense

I understand that everyone is pissed, but the reality is that with our Defense, we will never be a good team. I usually watch Red Zone and watch many of the defenses around the NFL and I think Houston has to have the worst defense of any team, even the Cowboys. It is difficult to say because I am a die-hard Houston fan and I can’t stand the boys, but things will not change this year or any year as long as Bush and Kubiak are leading the team. It’s the same thing year after year. High expectations equals low results. Very sad indeed. RIP TEXANS

by zitros on Nov 7, 2010 11:07 PM CST reply actions  

Moronic Coaching..

I’m sorry for the harshness of my comments, but you gotta be dumber than a bag full of rocks to think going for it on 4th down was “A GOOD CALL, THAT DIDN’T WORK OUT”.. That BS cost us the game, period, AND IT WAS A MORONIC DECISION..

Stop excusing idiot crap like that, please!… Or stop blogging, if that’s the extent of your football acumen..

by roo7227 on Nov 8, 2010 12:14 AM CST reply actions  

You think going for it on 4th and one, inside the Chargers' half

While being outside of field goal range, with the worst defense in the league, was a bad call?

Mmmkay.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 8, 2010 12:28 AM CST up reply actions  

If he doesn't go for it he is a coward

if he does he is a moron.

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 8, 2010 1:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

The same people who spam “OMG GO 4 IT!!!!!!111” are later bitching about the decision.

"I was laughing at you" - Jayson Werth explains to Brett Myers why he got picked off 2nd base on an intentional walk.

by RocketsAstros on Nov 8, 2010 3:56 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

exactly

Nice badge!

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by Hugh Jarce on Nov 8, 2010 6:51 AM CST up reply actions  

YES!... I Do!..

When we were up 23-21 and on the SD 17 yard line, I WAS SCREAMING FOR HIM TO KICK THE FG!.. Which puts us up 5, and guarantees we stay withing a FG if SD scores and gets a 2 point conversion… YOU SEE, THEN WE COULD HAVE KICKED ANOTHER FG, INSTEAD OF SNEAKING IT ON 4TH AND 2.. Or we could have maybe kicked a FG late, istead of having to score a TD, and maybe the late INT doesn’t happen..

Going for it the first time severly limited our options later in the game, and WAS A MONUMENTAL BLUNDER BY KUBIAK!.. And just because you idiots have no damn clue about football, doesn’t mean I was under any delusion… KICK THE FRIGGIN BALL!..

by roo7227 on Nov 10, 2010 3:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I think what he's tryin to say is

He’s an idiot for not callin a timeout to get a play together, or rather just hand the damn ball to Foster

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by Antho10000 on Nov 8, 2010 1:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Well Foster had already failed

to convert a 4th and 1 earlier (actually the blocking failed) so at the time it probably seemed a good idea to go ahead quickly and surprise the SD defense with a QB sneak. Sadly, unlike our D, the Chargers actually have players with good general football awareness and stopped us. I think part of the problem is that Schaub thought it was 4th and inches while it was actually 4th and a full yard if not more. Not sure if that was the case but it seemed like that.

"I was laughing at you" - Jayson Werth explains to Brett Myers why he got picked off 2nd base on an intentional walk.

by RocketsAstros on Nov 8, 2010 4:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Juh?

Didn’t I spend a whole paragraph saying they should have kicked the field goal?

I said the play call, IF YOU WERE GOING FOR IT, was a good play call. Kubes has gotten too sneaky in the past couple of weeks and rightfully went with “ram Foster down Chargers throat.”

It didn’t work, but that was the right play call for 4th & 1.

by riversmccown on Nov 8, 2010 5:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Wrong again..

First of all, any HC worth a damn kicks it, there… But if you are gonna go, why not play action?.. They ran the same double a gap blitz that they ran 5 other times on that drive, it’s hard for me to believe the Texans coaches didn’t know that blitz was coming..

by roo7227 on Nov 10, 2010 3:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Bush has 24 games on his resume

We can salvage this season and give us momentum on that side of the ball with one decision by Kubiak tomorrow morning.

Who do you bring in Tuesday if he fires Bush tomorrow?

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by texanphil on Nov 8, 2010 1:43 AM CST reply actions  

Yes.

The only wrong answer is Michigan’s defensive coordinator.

by riversmccown on Nov 8, 2010 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

the only winning move

is not to play

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 8, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Freddy. Duh.

I mean seriously someone’s inner child literally can not make this defense any worse than it already is.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!

by UprootedTexan on Nov 8, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

This is all you need to know ->
Every opponent’s possession against the Texans that ends in 0 points is met by surprise by the fanbase. Every last one.

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by LoneSpot on Nov 8, 2010 9:38 AM CST reply actions  

I( made a post a few weeks ago referencing this. Agree with you 100000%.

When you compare him to other rookie CBs who turned into GREAT cbs, he is DEAD even with them statistically.

The other thing of note is that ALL of those other CBs had WAY WAY WAY better front sevens to help them on the back end.

The game is simply TOO FAST at the reciever position coming from College to the NFL. CBs NEED at LEAST a year to adjust to the speed, and that should be a year coming off the bench, not starting.

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by TexansForever on Nov 8, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

It's not so much the Ints and PDs...

As it is the numerous long TDs surrendered. How often do you see a deep ball thrown at his receiver not succeed because of coverage? He is routinely 5-10 yards behind the receiver, because he bites on every move and lacks legitimate CB speed to compensate for it.

Really, the speed issue is what kills me. He’s going to have to develop the best instincts in football if you ever hope to be able to leave him in 1-on-1 coverage.

by Nashmeister on Nov 8, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

What was with that RIDICULOUS intentional grounding call?!!!!!

Are the refs blind???? The Schaub HAD a tight end in the area! Or were they unduly influenced? “Hey, we can’t let a west-coast team fall TOO far.”
I don’t get it.
Wait, IT’S A CONSPIRACY!!!

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by texanslady on Nov 8, 2010 2:02 PM CST reply actions  

On the Intentional Grounding call

I’m a Charger fan, and I thought it was a bit touchy to call it. But while I’m reviewing film of the game for my weekly analysis, I noticed why it was called Intentional grounding and then concluded that it wasn’t a bad call. hear me out. Schaub did have his TE running a corner route, but he was standing tall in the pocket. Had he moved even a little, it could have been ruled incomplete. Secondly, he threw the ball 5 yards out of bounds and the TE hadn’t even crossed the numbers. If Schaub wanted to throw it away, it should have at least landed in the field, or he should have waited a second longer for the TE to break outside the numbers so the ball doesn’t land 13 yards away from him. So again, I at first thought it was questionable, but then the evidence was apparent that it wasn’t bad at all.

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